Ride 05/02/07, 6:00 p.m. Cary/MacGregor Village, Oh Melo Velo, RSVP

[Zonda]

There is a strict start time of 6:00 by the ride organizer Ed.

When: Wednesdays, 6:00 p.m.

Where:
MacGregor Village (http://www.ncbikeclub.org/calendar/ncbcstrt.htm#mcgvl) Cary

Meet in parking lot between Wachovia Bank and Bistro Restaurant. Try to avoid parking near the bank.

Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=101+Edinburgh+Dr+S+Cary+NC)

Distance:
Any distance. Ride ½ your time and U-turn, finish at sunset.

Pace:
10-12 mph beginners
13-15 mph
No drop. Me, Michelle or Rick will ride behind the slowest rider. Rick will lead from the back this week. There are several subgroups for ride paces and distances.

Cue Sheet (provided at ride)

Contact Person: Zonda

Comments:

Please RSVP so we can plan riding groups.
Slow Spokes join the fast Oh Melo Velo (http://ohmelovelo.dnsalias.org/) riders to lead a slow group. See Ed's website Bicycling 2007 section.
Beginners are welcome to join this ride.
Please arrive in time to prepare your bike to leave promptly at 6:00 p.m. If you arrive late, David or Ed will leave cue sheets on their car back window under the wiper blade.
All riders should carry proper equipment in case they have a flat (spare tube, pump or CO2 cartridge).
It is strongly recommended that you carry your driver’s license and health insurance card in case of an emergency. You may also want to program your cell phone with an emergency contact number under the name “ICE” In Case of Emergency.
New riders should read Bicycling Hand Signals and Safety Pointers (http://www.trianglecycling.com/showthread.php?t=17385)

[Pugslyyy]

Hi Zonda - see you there!

I'll ride 16 or slower, I'm trying to hit some lower heart rate ranges in my training.

[BetsyW]

Brian and I will be there. This is our only ride this week since we will be out of town on the weekend, so I wouldn't mind trying to push a little faster (14.5-15) if anyone else is interested in trying with me knowing I may not be able to hang at 15:)

[KarenG]

I won't make it to this one as I have the 10mi TT that day. See ya at the next one tho.

[CharleyM3]

Can't make it this time. Stuffing packets for the RRR. Next time...

[Gerard]

I plan to be there. 15-16mph.

[aliepins]

I'll be there for 15-16 if 2 conditions are met: 1) I get outta work on time and 2) I get over this upper respiratory crud that's been going around. Brian should be there for 16-17 regardless.

Cheers!
-Andy

[fvncgal]

Count me in 13-15 mph...

Rebekah:)

[Dajuan]

Count me in too! I've got a couple new saddles to try out.

[Michelle W]

I plan to be there. Back of the 13-15 group.

[RickF]

I will be there. Put me anywhere you want to from leading the slow group from behind up to 16 mph.

[MikeD]

I'm gonna to try to make this ride but I not be able to make it. I have to drive to SC weds morning but I will be back sometime during the day. I don't know when yet though. I guess to be safe put me down as a no show, but I'll try to make it.

[MarkS]

I'll be there. 16-18.

[kball]

I'd like to participate but am a bit slow. On flats, I can keep up with the 15 pace but on hills, I think snails can pass me.

[RickF]

I'd like to participate but am a bit slow. On flats, I can keep up with the 15 pace but on hills, I think snails can pass me.Welcome. A lot of us are slow on the hills. With the diversity we have in the group now, someone will be riding at your pace.

[sportingfool]

I'd like to participate but am a bit slow. On flats, I can keep up with the 15 pace but on hills, I think snails can pass me.

In Cary Park, I was once passed by a guy walking his dog :eek:
But with a few good training rides under my belt, I can say that same guy would have to be jogging with his dog to pass me now :o

I can't ride this Wednesday...the hubby's out-of-town and I need to chauffer Kayley to and from all of her activities. I hope to be there on Saturday.

Andrea

[JimH]

I'll be there. I'll try the 15-16 group this week.

[Bob S.]

Doris and I plan to be there for 16 or under. I will be training to keep by heart rate down too. Maybe I should sign up for a lower speed as it get up sort of high at 16.
Bob S.

[Zonda]

I'd like to participate but am a bit slow. On flats, I can keep up with the 15 pace but on hills, I think snails can pass me.

Welcome to the group! Come on out and join us. You will be fine. I'll put you with the 12-14 mph group as a maybe if you decide to come.

[Zonda]

Head count for Wednesday:

Riders: 18

10-12 mph
Rick (will ride with the 14-16 mph group if no one shows for 10-12 mph)

12-14 mph
Me
Michelle
Kball (maybe)
Jackie T. (maybe)

14-16 mph
Betsy
Andy L. (maybe)
Rebekah
Jim H.
Bob S.
Doris

16+ mph
Jon T.
Brian J.
Gerard
Brian A.
Dajuan
Mike D. (maybe)
Mark S.

[Wayne Anderson]

Zonda,
Put me in for Wednesday. See you.
Wayne

[FenderFreek]

Hello all!

Count me in for tomorrow. I'm gonna try for the 14-16mph bracket and see how that goes.:D

[Michelle W]

I'd like to participate but am a bit slow. On flats, I can keep up with the 15 pace but on hills, I think snails can pass me.

I'm slow on hills also. Please come out and ride. Its a great group.

[Perry]

I think my wife will be joining us this week for her first ride. The two of us will ride the 10-12 pace.

Rick, no need to join us unless a bunch of 10-12 beginners show up.

If my wife doesn't come out today I'll be in the the 16+ group.

Perry

[tombiowami]

Zonda, I should be there; depends on work. I will be doing the 16mph. Thanks again.

Tommy

[xflow]

I think I will be there tonight for 16+ Fred

[JayC]

Im sitting this one out. Going to go do a ~15 mile skate with the Triangle Skate Club instead.

[FenderFreek]

Whew...I'm back. Hope I didn't leave anyone wondering where I was.

First mistake, I rode for about 1:15 before I realized how long I'd been going. Bad. Second, I completely underestimated how difficult it was to get back after riding 14 miles out...Then I got lost. Twice. Fun times, huh?:rolleyes:

I got to the railroad tracks, about 3 miles from the start, and got stuck at the train. By this time it's about 8:00pm and it's getting dark. A minivan pulls up behind me and the lady driving asks me if I want a ride. I thanked her and tossed my bike on the rack she conveniently had on the back. Turns out, she leads rides at Cycling Spoken Here, and invited me to come out and join them there sometime. She gave me a lift back to my car, and I was on my way.

Neat experience, considering I was going to end up calling for a ride in about 10 minutes. It's interesting how things work out sometimes, isn't it?

Overall, it was a very pleasant experience, I just learned a few things -
1. Good shorts are a must. I'm not going anywhere else until I get some more comfortable ones.

2. Bring more water. I ran out just past the halfway, and ended up making a pitstop to get more.

3.Pay closer attention to when it gets dark. Some of those people driving are pretty crazy and I wouldn't trust them at night. The roads aren't too smooth in some spots either, which gets hard to see.

A++ will ride again!

Stats:
Time: 2:01:30
Average: 13.5mph(The ride back killed me. I had about 15.5 when I turned around.)
Distance: 27.43 miles
Max: 32.5mph

~Andrew M.

[Zonda]

Whew...I'm back. Hope I didn't leave anyone wondering where I was.

I just sent you a private message asking what happened to you.:eek: I'm glad you got back o.k. You'll get the hang of things after a few rides. Thanks for coming out.

[Zonda]

Riders 25: Rick, Bob J., Julie, Me, Michelle, Kathy (kball), Rebekah, Wayne A., Betsy, Brian J., Andy L., Jim H., Bob S., Doris, Andrew (FenderFreek), Perry, Jon T., Gerard, Brian A., Dajuan, Mark S. Tommy, Fred (xflow), Mike W. and Wayne W.

Welcome Julie and Kathy!

Welcome back Bob S., Doris, Andrew, Bob J., and Mike W.!

Rick and Michelle, thanks for leading.

Wayne W., thanks for hanging with Doris.

Andrew, sorry you got separated. I forgot to designate someone to watch out for you. My mistake. With 25 riders attending, it's getting hard to keep up with everyone even as organized as I am!!:rolleyes: I'm glad you got a lift and got back o.k. After a few rides you will be more familiar with riders at your pace. Glad you still enjoyed the ride.;)

Rick, Bob J., Julie, Me, Michelle, Kathy & Rebekah
Distance: 23 miles
Pace: 11.9 – 12.9 mph
We had a mechanical at the start and got behind Rick’s group. We rode with each other at different times throughout the ride.

Andrew
Distance: 27.4 miles
Pace: 13. 5 mph
Time 2:01

Wayne W. & Doris
Distance: 30.3 miles
Pace: 14.2 mph
Time: 2:08

Betsy & Brian J.
Distance: 24.1 miles
Pace: 14.4 mph
Time: 1:43

Jim H.
Distance: 25.5 miles
Pace: 14.8 mph
Time: 1:43

Gerard
Distance: 31.9 miles
Pace: 15.5 mph
Time: 2:03

Bob S.
Distance: 32 miles
Pace: 15.8 mph

Tommy
Distance: 31.3 miles
Pace: 16.1 mph
Time: 1:56

Jon T. & Perry
Distance: 31 miles
Pace: 16.6 mph
Time: 1:52

Andy L.
Distance: 31.5 miles
Pace: 16.7 mph
Time: 1:53

Dajuan
Distance: 34.3 miles
Pace: 17.3 mph
Time: 2:05

Mark S.
Distance: 36.5 miles
Pace: 17.8 mph
Time: 2:03

Fred
Distance: 36.3 miles
Pace: 18 mph
Time: 2:00

Brian A.
Distance: 38.3 miles
Pace: 18.6 mph
Time: 2:03

Mike W.
Distance: 38.2 miles
Pace: 18.9 mph
Time: 2:01

Didn’t get stats for Wayne A.

Thanks for coming out!

[JayC]

1. Good shorts are a must. I'm not going anywhere else until I get some more comfortable ones.

Bibs.. you want bibs. Shorts are great on women with hips but men should wear bibs. They dont slide down as the ride progresses and the pad stays put.

I am partial to the Pearl Izumi Microsensor 3D bibs. They're kind of pricey but you can catch them on sale from time to time.

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=22013&subcategory_ID=1120

Worst comes to worst, you can get 10% off of them at lunchtime on Tuesdays at Performance.

If you cant stomach the price, the Performance house brand bibs are okay as well.

The Elite bibs are okay

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=23491&subcategory_ID=1120

And the Ultra bibs are the next step up. Ive found that these bibs tend to run small.

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=22361&subcategory_ID=1120

Head over to Performance and try some on. Your crotch will thank you.

DO NOT under ANY circustance get the Performance gel shorts or bibs. They suck and the pad will come unsewed.

[RickF]

DO NOT under ANY circustance get the Performance gel shorts or bibs. They suck and the pad will come unsewed.
That has not been my experience with the Performance Century Short w/ Gel Chamois (http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=19869). I have had two pair, and had no problems with either. I did not put too many miles or months on the first pair because I lost so much weight I had to drop two sizes. The second pair I have used for almost a year now, and there is no sign of wear or of the chamois coming unsewn. The only problem is that I have dropped another size, so they are getting loose.

The problem I have with bibs is that my torso is too long in proportion to the rest of my body, which make the straps too tight. I would rather pull the drawstring in the shorts tight than to have the straps pulling down on my shoulders. Maybe I just know how to tie the drawstring and not have the shorts ride down because I was once a competitive swimmer. If I could keep Speedos on while doing a forward start, keeping cycling shorts in place is no problem.

[JayC]

I have 3 pair of the gel bibs. Every one of them the pad has come unsewed. There's been several threads about the same over on Bikeforums. Sounds like you must have got the Wednesday shorts, Rick.

[FenderFreek]

So I went to Performance today and got myself some of the Performance Ultra bibs with the gel pad. I like the feel of the bibs a bit better than the shorts, and sitting on a saddle, the gel ones really did feel better. I thought I had picked up the Century ones, but when I went to check out, they turned out to be the Ultras, which were $30 more.:eek:

I went ahead and got them, figuring that if they did hold up alright then they'd be better quality and more comfortable, but if I do have any trouble with them, then I'll consider it a lesson learned and just not buy them again. They are super-comfartable though, much more so than the running shorts I've been wearing up until now.

I also picked up a Cannondale jersey on sale, and correct me if I'm wrong, but they seem to run a but tight. I ended up getting a 3XL in that jersey, where XL's in other brands fit just the same or looser.

[JayC]

I think you did okay actually. These are the bibs I have that the pad has come unsewed in.

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=19867&subcategory_ID=1120

Im thinking this is what you got. They dont appear to have a gel chamois tho.

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=22361&subcategory_ID=1120

[RickF]

Jersey sizing is so variable it is almost a joke. For starters, there are three styles - Club cut, European cut and Pro cut. The club cut jerseys are loose, and the pro cut are supposed to be stretched over your body. If that was not enough, what is considered "small", "medium", "large", etc in clothing made in Europe are at least one size smaller than the corresponding garment that is made in North America.

Bottom line is that you must always try on jerseys. You can not go by sizing charts.

[FenderFreek]

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=1120

You're right. I tried on so many things I forgot what I actually bought! They are quite confortable in any case, so I'll stick with them for now.

[williamtash]

You also might look in the sale sight here for your pedels Zonda has some that are really being sold at a great price. I remember you said you were going to get some when money was there take a look at hers

[FenderFreek]

Yeah, I seriously, seriously thought about getting some pedals, but after spending $120 in there today, I think I'll have to hold out until I get another paycheck or two...:(

[aliepins]

Yeah, I seriously, seriously thought about getting some pedals, but after spending $120 in there today, I think I'll have to hold out until I get another paycheck or two...:(

Ahh, the travails of a new roadie... refreshing, isn't it?! :D

Welcome to the fold...it's a blast

cheers,
Andy

[williamtash]

Talk to zonda she might be willing to hold them for you

[Zonda]

Talk to zonda she might be willing to hold them for you

I have two people interested in the pedals. If one of them doesn't buy them, I'll can offer them to Andrew. They have been sitting in a box since Sept. 2005, so I'm in no hurry...;)