Ride 05/30/07, 6:00 p.m. Cary/MacGregor Village, Oh Melo Velo, RSVP

[Zonda]

Any volunteers to watch over the 13-15 mph group this week?

There is a strict start time of 6:00 by the ride organizer Ed. Be ready and line up in your groups by 5:55.

RSVP by Tuesday, 5:00 p.m. with your choice of ride pace if you want to be put in a riding group.

When: Wednesdays, 6:00 p.m.

Where:
MacGregor Village (http://www.ncbikeclub.org/calendar/ncbcstrt.htm#mcgvl) Cary

Meet in parking lot between Wachovia Bank and Bistro Restaurant. Try to avoid parking near the bank.

Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=101+Edinburgh+Dr+S+Cary+NC)

Distance:
Any distance. Ride ½ your time and U-turn, finish at sunset.

Pace: 4 groups
10-12 mph beginners
13-15 mph
16-18 mph
18+ mph

No drop. Me, Michelle or Rick each will alternate leading the beginner group riding behind the slowest rider. I will lead the 10-12 mph group this week.

Cue Sheet (provided at ride)

Contact Person: Zonda

Comments:

RSVP requested to help plan riding groups. RSVP by replying to ride announcement thread.
Slow Spokes join the fast Oh Melo Velo (http://ohmelovelo.dnsalias.org/) riders to lead a slow group. See Ed's website Bicycling 2007 section.
Beginners are welcome to join this ride.
Please arrive in time to prepare your bike to leave promptly at 6:00 p.m. If you arrive late, David or Ed will leave cue sheets on their car back window under the wiper blade.
All riders should carry proper equipment in case they have a flat (spare tube, pump or CO2 cartridge).
It is strongly recommended that you carry your driver’s license and health insurance card in case of an emergency. You may also want to program your cell phone with an emergency contact number under the name “ICE” In Case of Emergency.
New riders should read Bicycling Hand Signals and Safety Pointers (http://www.trianglecycling.com/showthread.php?t=17385)

[BetsyW]

Brian and I will be there. I would volunteer to watch over the 13-15 group, but I'm afraid I am the slowest in that group anyways and I don't really want to ride by myself. I am usually at the back by default:) at 14.5 mph average, so if someone else that can definitely hang with the 15mph people wants to volunteer, that would be great - they could probably ride with me:D .

[Zonda]

Brian and I will be there. I would volunteer to watch over the 13-15 group, but I'm afraid I am the slowest in that group anyways and I don't really want to ride by myself. I am usually at the back by default:) at 14.5 mph average, so if someone else that can definitely hang with the 15mph people wants to volunteer, that would be great - they could probably ride with me:D .

When you watch over the group, you watch or shadow new riders or anyone who separates from the upper end of the group's pace so they don't get dropped and ride alone. It's not leading at the front, but being willing to ride a little slower at 13 mph if they fall back. If the pace falls below 13 mph, you can wait at a turn and have them drop back to ride with the 10-12 mph group.

Since you are leaving soon, enjoy yourself while you can.:p I'll find someone if we have new riders attending the 13-15 mph group.

[CharleyM3]

I'll be there. I'll committ to 16 +-.

[Elaine]

Zonda,

Boyd and I will do that group this wed for you. We will ride at the back and make sure no one gets dropped and keep people together that need help. Does that help you out?

Elaine

[MarkS]

I'll be there -- 16-18.

[FenderFreek]

I'll be there, assuming traffic works out in my favor, and will probably do my usual 13-15.

[Michelle W]

I plan to be there...back of the 15-13 group

[Dasa]

I will be there (beginner 10 - 12 mph) provided the traffic does not hold me back like it did the last week .

Cheers
-Dasa

[RickF]

I am doing 13-15 this week, too. I cannot ride this weekend - too much to do at the house :mad: but I can ride Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. I think I will be pushed on Thursday, so I do not want to go too hard on Wednesday.

[mproctor]

Put me in for 13-15 tomorrow. Last week was my first riding with the group and I thoroughly enjoyed the ride.

[amac]

I'll be there... probably at the slower end of the 13-15 group..I think that's about where I fell in last week.

I have really enjoyed both the Wed night ride last week and the ride Sunday. Thanks for organizing everything to give riders so many options, Zonda! It really has been a great group to ride with.

-Amy

[fvncgal]

I'll be there, put me with the 13-15 group....

Rebekah

[jibrantl]

I will be there. 10-12 mph

[Pugslyyy]

I'll be there, ride with the 13-15 group. I can be the sweep, whatever. Just don't put me in front, I'm riding with this group to try and do a lower ride at a different HR!

[Hammerhead]

If it's not too late to rsvp, I'll more than likely be there (pending 5pm traffic from RTP)

I'd like to do 18+ if there's more people interested. If not, i'll do 16-18.

[amac]

Also, just in case it helps organize things, my dad's gf is planning on riding tomorrow - most likely in the same group I am (13-15). Her name is Liz. See yall tomorrow.

[KathyB]

I'll be there provided traffic cooperates - 13-15.

[Zonda]

I'll be there, ride with the 13-15 group. I can be the sweep, whatever. Just don't put me in front, I'm riding with this group to try and do a lower ride at a different HR!

Say what??? You ride slow???:confused:

If Boyd and Elaine want to ride faster then you can be the sweep.

[Zonda]

If it's not too late to rsvp, I'll more than likely be there (pending 5pm traffic from RTP)

I'd like to do 18+ if there's more people interested. If not, i'll do 16-18.

It's never too late to RSVP. It's better to let me know upfront than just show up. Also, someone else wanting 18+ mph pace come after seeing that you will be there riding their pace.

We lead the slow group on this ride. There is a fast group of 18+ mph riders who also ride. You can start with them and drop back to one of our groups if you can't hang with them, but I have feeling you'll do fine...;)

[Zonda]

Zonda, Boyd and I will do that group this wed for you. We will ride at the back and make sure no one gets dropped and keep people together that need help. Does that help you out? Elaine

Yes, that helps a bunch!!:D We have 12 riders in that group so far. Thank you so much.;)

[Zonda]

As usual, be lined up in your groups by 5:55.

Head count for Wednesday:

Riders: 21

10-12 mph
Zonda (leading from the back)
Dasa
Jessica

13-15 mph
Elaine & Boyd (Lieutenants riding sweep);)
Jon T. (backup Lieutenant riding sweep if needed);)
Betsy
Andrew
Michelle
Rick
mproctor
Amy
Rebekah
Liz
Kathy B.

16-18 mph
Brian J.
Charley
Mark S.
Jim H.

18+ mph
Tamim (sorry I had it misspelled)
Fred

[xflow]

I may be ridding tommorow (18+) Im slighly bruised up from my DH mtb trip last weekend at snowshoe. Fred

[Zonda]

I may be ridding tommorow (18+) Im slighly bruised up from my DH mtb trip last weekend at snowshoe. Fred

Come on Fred, take some Motrin, put some ice on it. I can't wait to see the stats for you and Tamim after the ride!!:D

[JimH]

I plan to ride with the 16-18 group. Closer to 16 than 18.

[tombiowami]

I am planning on riding with the 13-15 group.
Tommy

[Jackie T]

As usual, I'll be there if I can get out of work in time. 13 - 15 group for me.

[CharleyM3]

I reserve the right to change my grouping at start time.

[MikeD]

I really hope to make this ride. Work has been kickin my @55 lately time wise. I'm taking all my gear to work and gonna leave from there just as quick as I can.

[Perry]

I expect to be there. Count me in for the 13-15 group. Quite a herd for that speed this week.

[Gerard]

I'll be there. 13-15mph.

[BetsyW]

Well, this was a tough decision to make but we're not going to be there tonight. We both managed to get the day off and it's our 9 year anniversary so we have made the spontaneous (very unlike us:) - we plan everything! ) decision to go to Busch Gardens for the day. Must try new roller coaster!!! Unfortunately I will most likely not be riding on Wednesdays until after July 4th, but I should be there for most of the weekend rides. Brian will still be there on Wednesdays though. Have fun!! (This means I need to ride tomorrow night so if anyone is interested in sticking with me on the C pace ride at The Spin Cycle at a 14.5 mph pace send me a PM)

[Michelle W]

Happy Anniversary and have a great time!

[dmmorris]

I'm gonna be there.

Doin' ~15mph.

Cheers,
dmm

[Hammerhead]

great ride everyone.

I fell off the back of the 18+ group at the turnaround.

Still had fun though :)

[Zonda]

Betsy, we missed you and Brian tonight and will miss you during June. Belated Happy Anniversary!!

Looks like David M. arrived right as we were leaving, but decided not to try to catch up. Sorry David.

We provided another drama-filled ride for Jessica tonight. Remember last week Ed crashed then a van turned in front of her causing her to hit the van.

I had my second flat in 7 years! My first one was last July. I have taken The Spin Cycle’s tire changing class twice. During the class Kevin had trouble getting off my tire and said some rims fit tighter than others. I knew I’d be in trouble if I ever had flat.

Andrew helped as Lieutenant for the slow group. He led at the front while I rode from the back. He and Dasa took off ahead on Old Raleigh. Andrew didn’t know we take the slow group through a cutoff on New Dover though a neighborhood since a portion of Old Raleigh is steep and has a very narrow shoulder for new cyclists to maneuver in heavy traffic. Me, Michelle and Jessica took the shortcut. We planned to catch them at Apex Peakway/Old Raleigh. Before we got to Apex Peakway, I flatted…:(

Michelle helped me try to change the tire. We wrestled with it, but couldn’t get it off. We decided Michelle would ride back with Jessica to get her car then drive over to pick me up.

Right then a Land Rover pulls over and a guy and his wife, both cyclists, stopped to help. His name was Gavin. He used to be a hammerhead 20 years ago and recently started cycling again.

Being the strong manly man that he was, he got the tire right off and changed the tube. We thought all was good, BUT the valve stem on my spare tube was about half the length of the one that came off the bike. The valve stem nearly disappeared into the rim and we couldn’t pump it up. I didn’t know they came in different sizes or had adapters for this, gasp!:eek:

Gavin told us to hold a minute. He dashed home and came back with a patch kit. Oh yes he did!! He repaired my tube saving the day, my hero!! He said it should be fine to get me back to the shopping center, but he didn’t put much air in it since it was patched. Michelle and Jessica were able to get in a few miles before the turn around time to salvage the ride.

Of course, since Gavin said he recently started back cycling and lives near the ride start, I had to recruit him and give him our website address. He may join us next Wed. He’s an attorney and shared with us some of his stories for handling road rage. It was quite entertaining and I look forward to him joining us. Thank you Gavin!!;)

Jessica, I assure you the rides are usually uneventful. We rarely have problems on our rides.

Fred didn’t make it to the ride, so I assume he’s still banged up from his mountain bike ride.

Lieutenant’s Andrew, Rick, Elaine, Boyd & Jon T., thanks for helping with the 10-12 and 13-15 mph groups!!;)

Also, Michelle made a large poster for all of us to sign for Ed. I’ll visit him this evening and give it to him. Thank you Michelle!;)

We had so many riders, I may have missed a few names.

Riders 26: Me, Dasa, Jessica, Elaine, Boyd, Andrew, Michelle, Rick, Marsha (mproctor), Amy, Rebekah, Jon T., Liz, Kathy B., Tommy, Jackie T., Charley, Mark S., Jim H., Mike D., Tamim, Jill, Wayne, Lori, Andy & Dajuan.

Welcome, Dasa, Lori, Andy & Liz!

Welcome back, Jessica, Marsha & Amy!

Me
Distance: 5.5 miles
Pace: 12.0 mph
Time: 0:27

Michelle & Jessica
Distance: 19 miles
Pace: 13.0 mph
Time: 1:27

Andrew & Dasa
Distance: 19.0 miles
Pace: 13.7 mph
Time: 1:23

Lori & Andy
Distance: 26.0 miles
Pace: 14.0 mph
Time: 1:54

Wayne
Distance: 22.0 miles
Pace: 14.4 mph
Time: 1:31

Elaine
Distance: 32.3 miles
Pace: 15.0 mph

Jon T. (pugsly)
Distance: 32.7 miles
Pace: 15.3 mph
Time: 2:08

Rick, Tommy, Jill, Kathy B., Amy & Liz
Distance: 32.9 miles
Pace: 15.4 mph
Time: 2:01

Perry
Distance: 32.0 miles
Pace: 15.7 mph

Charley
Distance: 33.2 miles
Pace: 16.4 mph
Time: 2:02

Gerard & Jim H.
Distance: 35.1 miles
Pace: 17.1 mph
Time: 2:02

Dajuan
Distance: 39.3 miles
Pace: 17.5 mph
Time: 2:14

Mike D.
Distance: 39.7 miles
Pace: 18.0 mph
Time: 2:04

Mark S.
Distance: 39.4 miles
Pace: 18.1 mph
Time: 2:10

Tamim (Hammerhead)
Distance: 43.6 miles
Pace: 19.4 mph
Time: 2:14

Didn’t get stats for a few people. Since we have so many riders and this is becoming time consuming, I may have you post your stats after the ride instead of me collecting and posting them.

Jon T. and his harem went to the Ale House after the ride. He talked me into going saying I was a little wound up and needed a beer!! He was absolutely right. We had a lot fun. The harem attendees were his lovely wife Emily, me, Michelle and Rebekah!! :D

Thanks for coming out!

[fvncgal]

I've never been part of a Harem before, but if I'm going to be in one, Jon's is definitely the best!!! I had great fun as well, in spite of my flat...it was that kind of night. Thanks again Michelle and Boyd for your help with it. Jon, Thanks to you as well for hanging with me for most of the ride....

Rebekah

[williamtash]

Sounds like the Wed rides are getting a little exciting these days. Zonda now you have had your flat for another 2 years. Thank goodness for Gavin and his know how. That is three flat tires for the slow spoke group in three weeks I hope that the last one for awhile I know I now have two spare tubes plus one on the bike. Zonda you are forever recruiting for the slow spokes the more the merrier

[sportingfool]

I've never been part of a Harem before, but if I'm going to be in one, Jon's is definitely the best!!! I had great fun as well, in spite of my flat...it was that kind of night. Thanks again Michelle and Boyd for your help with it. Jon, Thanks to you as well for hanging with me for most of the ride....

Another flat, Rebekah? Soon, you'll be able to change them like a pro;)

I changed my own flat for the first time when I was out riding with Kayley on Tuesday night. Kayley was impressed :D

Andrea

[RickF]

Looks like David M. arrived right as we were leaving, but decided not to try to catch up. Sorry David.[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Thanks for coming out!David did catch up to my group. His stats should be the same as Charlie's, as they went about a half mile farther than the rest of my group before they turned around.

[KarenG]

We provided another drama-filled ride for Jessica tonight. Remember last week Ed crashed then a van turned in front of her causing her to hit the van.

I had my second flat in 7 years! My first one was last July. I have taken The Spin Cycle’s tire changing class twice. During the class Kevin had trouble getting off my tire and said some rims fit tighter than others. I knew I’d be in trouble if I ever had flat.

Sorry to hear about your flat Zonda. I rode with Jay & Erica Tuesday and Jay had 2 flats! He's gotten pretty proficient at changing flats, so should I ever have one and he's with me, I think between the both of us, I should be able to get it changed (I haven't had a flat yet, *knocking on wood*).

[williamtash]

Don't say that that is what will get you a flat for sure

[skiffrun]

... . Zonda now you have had your flat for another 2 years. ... My flats seem to come in threes. Such as three in just four rides. Then I'm good for a long while. Knock on wood.

[skiffrun]

... We thought all was good, BUT the valve stem on my spare tube was about half the length of the one that came off the bike. The valve stem nearly disappeared into the rim and we couldn’t pump it up. I didn’t know they came in different sizes ...There are usually about 3 lengths of valve-stem on each shelf, in addition to the size and valve type variations. It is easy to grab the wrong box even after carefully surveying the various merchandise. Every shop - admittedly on north side of town - from which I've purchased a tube has asked some version of "did you get the right length in addition to Presta vs Schrader & tire size / width". The only times not asked is when the "clerk" already knew me, my bike, my wife's bike, and he just checked the box himself without voicing the Q.

[fvncgal]

Andrea,

Yeah another flat:mad: I'm impressed that you changed your own..I'll be spending more time riding with you!!!!!!!!!

Rebekah:)

[Elaine]

Zonda's gang was started to burst at the seams. The 13 to 15 mph is the large one at this point. It was wonderful having Rick and Charley lead the group, I did middle man and Boyd and Jon were at the end. I think it worked out great making sure everyone got in and out and no one got left on the curbside. Even though a large group even on the busy roads it seemed to ride well. Hey Zonda, if you get so many followers are you no longer a gang leader but head of a cult? Unless nothing comes up we plan to be there next Wed. and will help out again. Great ride everyone.

Elaine

[Zonda]

It was wonderful having Rick and Charley lead the group, I did middle man and Boyd and Jon were at the end. Hey Zonda, if you get so many followers are you no longer a gang leader but head of a cult? Unless nothing comes up we plan to be there next Wed. and will help out again.Elaine

Oops. Didn't know Charley helped also. Thanks Charley and thanks Michelle for making sure Jessica had a good ride.

Elaine, I know it's not my charm. They all just want to ride.;) Thanks for offering to help again next week!

[Zonda]

Sorry to hear about your flat Zonda. I rode with Jay & Erica Tuesday and Jay had 2 flats! He's gotten pretty proficient at changing flats, so should I ever have one and he's with me, I think between the both of us, I should be able to get it changed (I haven't had a flat yet, *knocking on wood*).

Yeah, lets knock on wood for you!! One flat is better than two. Good grief!

I think I need to ride more with Jay since he's an expert tire changer...;)

[Zonda]

There are usually about 3 lengths of valve-stem on each shelf, in addition to the size and valve type variations. It is easy to grab the wrong box even after carefully surveying the various merchandise.

Thanks for that info. Are you looking for the longer stems by opening the box and checking or is there a certain number on the box?

[skiffrun]

Thanks for that info. Are you looking for the longer stems by opening the box and checking or is there a certain number on the box?All the info regarding length, etc. is on the outside of the box.

If you're not sure, check with the salesperson. It does help if you know what type of rim you have, or if the LBS salesperson knows.

[Zonda]

I got the answer to my question. I need 48mm. They come in 36, 48 and 60 mm.

[RickF]

I got the answer to my question. I need 48mm. They come in 36, 48 and 60 mm.I bought some tubes last weekend. The Presta tube was marked 48mm on the box, but the Schrader tube (for my hybrid) does not have a stem length marked on the box.

[skiffrun]

I bought some tubes last weekend. The Presta tube was marked 48mm on the box, but the Schrader tube (for my hybrid) does not have a stem length marked on the box.I think no one making the Schrader type rims have not gone to that deep-V design so prevalent recently on the Presta road bike rims. (I'm willing to be proved wrong.)

The deep-V designs are what requires the longer stem as the shorter stems won't reach all the way through that deep-V.

[Zonda]

Right then a Land Rover pulls over and a guy and his wife, both cyclists, stopped to help. His name was Gavin. He used to be a hammerhead 20 years ago and recently started cycling again...

...Of course, since Gavin said he recently started back cycling and lives near the ride start, I had to recruit him and give him our website address.

Ran in to Gavin at the gym this morning. Small world.:rolleyes: He is recovering from a minor medical procedure. He may join us tomorrow or Wed. or as soon as he's healed enough to get on the bike.