Ride Wed. 06/20/07, 6:00 p.m. Cary/MacGregor Village, Oh Melo Velo, RSVP

[Zonda]

There is a strict start time of 6:00 by the ride organizer. Be ready and lined up in your groups by 5:55.

RSVP by Tuesday, 5:00 p.m. with your riding pace preference if you want to be put in a riding group. This is done to ensure everyone rides with someone at their pace and doesn’t get dropped. With 20-25 riders attending, it has become too chaotic trying to handle unexpected riders a few minutes before the ride while I’m trying to welcome new riders, organize the planned riding groups and get myself ready to ride. If you don’t RSVP so we can plan ahead, you will need to view the list (headcount posted Tuesday after 5:00) and arrive early to find those folks and add yourself to their group.

When: Wednesdays, 6:00 p.m.

Where:
MacGregor Village (http://www.ncbikeclub.org/calendar/ncbcstrt.htm#mcgvl) Cary

Meet in parking lot between Wachovia Bank and Bistro Restaurant. Try to avoid parking near the bank.

Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=101+Edinburgh+Dr+S+Cary+NC)

Distance:
Any distance. Ride ½ your time and U-turn, finish at sunset.

Pace: 4 groups
10-12 mph beginners
13-15 mph
16-18 mph
18+ mph

No drop. Me, Michelle or Rick will alternate leading the 10-12 mph group riding behind the slowest rider. I will lead the 10-12 mph group this week. Need Lieutenants to help watch over the 13-15 mph group. Any volunteers?

Cue Sheet (provided at ride)

Contact Person: Zonda

Comments:

RSVP requested to help plan riding groups. RSVP by replying to ride announcement thread.
Slow Spokes join the fast Oh Melo Velo (http://ohmelovelo.dnsalias.org/) riders to lead a slow group. See Ed's website Bicycling 2007 section.
Beginners are welcome to join this ride.
Please arrive in time to prepare your bike to leave promptly at 6:00 p.m. If you arrive late, David or Ed will leave cue sheets on their car back window under the wiper blade.
All riders should carry proper equipment in case they have a flat (spare tube, pump or CO2 cartridge).
It is strongly recommended that you carry your driver’s license and health insurance card in case of an emergency. You may also want to program your cell phone with an emergency contact number under the name “ICE” In Case of Emergency.
New riders should read Bicycling Hand Signals and Safety Pointers (http://www.trianglecycling.com/showthread.php?t=17385)

[Pugslyyy]

Okay, I can lend a hand with 13-15 again.

[Wayne Anderson]

I'll be there, haulin' buggy

[BetsyW]

I think I'll be able to make it this week:D . Brian will definitely be there and I'm a probably.

[flea]

I am planning on joining the ride this week. I need to be in the beginner group since this will be my first group ride!

[angieM]

Hi Slowpokers!

I will be there for the ride. I'll be in the beginner ride since this will be my first ride with all of you. Looking forward to it. Still pretty new with my pedals and will probably show up with knee pads and elbow pads in case I might have a fall; which is very possible. :o

Angie

[Pugslyyy]

Hi Slowpokers!

I will be there for the ride. I'll be in the beginner ride since this will be my first ride with all of you. Looking forward to it. Still pretty new with my pedals and will probably show up with knee pads and elbow pads in case I might have a fall; which is very possible. :o

Angie

Hi Angie - welcome to the board and I hope we'll see you out riding with us soon.

I'm wondering if you might want to wait until you are a bit more comfortable in your riding skill before you join a group ride. If you really think it is quite possible you might fall over it won't be just you but the riders in front of or behind you that could get injured, and I'm sure you wouldn't want that.

Also, we do ride on public roads and in traffic, so again if you are concerned about your stability at this point maybe you don't want to put yourself in a position where you are getting passed by cars, etc.

[williamtash]

Ha Angie Welcome aboard

I was wondering is the bike new or just the pedals. Have you worked the pedals in a parking lot and quick stops also. If you want just a suggestion the group will also be riding this coming sunday. There is quit a bit less traffic on that day and that maybe a better ride for you to work out the bugs with the pedals as well

[angieM]

Hey Guys,
I'm going to take off my clip pedals and put back my other pedals. I've ridden in traffic before and in small groups but since it's been a while since I've been on the road I will use my regular pedals. Don't want to run the risk of falling and possibly hurting others. I appreciate your concerns. Thanks

[Dasa]

I will be there.

Cheers
-Dasa

[Hammerhead]

A word to the wise...

the 18+ group is generally NOT a no-drop group, as the majority of these riders are not "Slow Spokes" members from what I've noticed...


We've had several people the last few weeks get dropped from this group...some mistakenly thinking there was a no-drop policy in effect, causing some harsh feelings.

[skychef10]

Hi Zonda,

Andy and I should be there on Wednesday night, both in our usual groups. He in the 13-15 range, me in who ever I can keep up with 16-18+.

Brian A.

[Pugslyyy]

A word to the wise...

the 18+ group is generally NOT a no-drop group, as the majority of these riders are not "Slow Spokes" members from what I've noticed...


We've had several people the last few weeks get dropped from this group...some mistakenly thinking there was a no-drop policy in effect, causing some harsh feelings.

That's a good point. If you are riding 18+ you aren't a beginner and don't need the security blanket of a no-drop. I think it is appropriate that we focus our support efforts on the 10-12 and 13-15 categories.

16-18 tends to get pretty spread out as well.

[tombiowami]

Unless work keeps me; I will be doing the 13-15. See you all there!
Tommy

[RickF]

I will be there and can ride anywhere from 13 to 16.5 mph.

[Zonda]

Welcome Angie and Flea!

[mproctor]

I will be there in the 13-15 group this week.

[KathyB]

I'll be there - 13-15 group for me, too.

[Zonda]

If you are riding 18+ you aren't a beginner and don't need the security blanket of a no-drop. I think it is appropriate that we focus our support efforts on the 10-12 and 13-15 categories. 16-18 tends to get pretty spread out as well.

Tamim, thanks for pointing out this situation.

For anyone who doesn't know the history of the Oh Melo Velo ride:

The OMV ride is a time trial type ride at 17-22 mph that has been going on for more than 20 years. The OMV hammerheads never follow no drop and expect to ride as fast as they can each week.

We were invited to join their ride to lead a slow group. My vision of the Slow Spokes was for a beginner and D paced group, which we have far exceeded. I don't want anyone dropped out in the middle of no where, but I can see how our fast riders comingling with the OMV hammerheads can present a false perception that riders stay together.

I agree that the 18+ mph group doesn't need the same attention as 15 mph and under. Most riders at that level tend to fend for themselves.

The good thing is that we are all on the same route and you can drop back to the next group if you can't keep up. It's hard to organize a ride to please everyone, particularly when we are trying to cover paces from 10-20 mph. The best solution I can suggest is to find someone listed on the head count riding 18+ mph to see if they want to ride together.

If anyone else has suggestions, please share them.

[acorn]

Hi, please put me in the 13-15 mph group, and I'm looking forward to meeting you!!! :) Smiles, Lisa

[fvncgal]

Count me in the 13-15 group...

[MarkS]

I'll be there -- 16+.

[Perry]

Count me in for 13 - 15, but more specifically something around 14 mph. I'm glad to help out too.

Perry

[apxrider]

Tentatively, I'll ride in the 13-15 mph group. If the weather is bad, I'll have to change my mind.

[JimH]

I'll be there in the 16+ group.

[Elaine]

Elaine and Boyd will be there - the usual pace. Zonda let me know if you want us to help. I have run several times this week and I may be a bit, ummm, sore. Hope the rain comes in the am and not pm -
Elaine

[jibrantl]

I will be there in the 13-15 group

[lakepine]

I would like to ride and will be there riding with 10-12 group. Donna may come not sure yet so better to count her in 10-12 as well.

Ed

[3MTA3]

i'll be there... i'm not sure what group though. i don't want jay to drope the hamer on me, so i'll stay (far) behind him.

[Zonda]

Head count for Wednesday:

As usual, be lined up in your groups by 5:55.

The weather is very unpredictable this time of year. Unless it’s pouring rain after 5:00, we make a decision about riding around 5:50. We’ve had two great rides on nights it looked like it would pour rain.

Riders: 27

10-12 mph
Me (leading from the back)
Flea
Angie M.
Dasa (put you here since you said you run on Tues. and Thurs.)
Elizabeth (Izzyex)
Ed
Donna (maybe)

13-15 mph
Jon T. (Lieutenant)
Perry (Lieutenant)
Elaine (Lieutenant)
Boyd (Lieutenant)
Wayne A.
Vanderkitten in Training (Betsy) (maybe)
Andy L. (aliepins)
Tommy
Rick
Marsha (mproctor)
Kathy B.
Lisa (acorn)
Rebekah
Greg (apxrider) (maybe)
Jessica (jibrantl)
Will most likely have two groups for the high and low end of the pace. Thank you Lieutenants for volunteering to shepherd the group! ;)

16-18 mph
Brian J.
Brian A.
Mark S.
Jim H.

18+ mph
none

3MTA3, pace unknown. I thought you were a phantom member. Glad we will finally meet you. It better not rain!

[Zonda]

Hi, please put me in the 13-15 mph group, and I'm looking forward to meeting you!!! :) Smiles, Lisa

Welcome to the group!

[MikeD]

I'm back!!! I plan on coming out to play on weds. I haven't ridden with the SS in a couple of weeks and I miss it. Put me in the 16-18 mph group please.

[williamtash]

Ha Mike great to see your cat back again

[BetsyW]

I'm back!!! I plan on coming out to play on weds. I haven't ridden with the SS in a couple of weeks and I miss it. Put me in the 16-18 mph group please.

Yeah! MikeD is back to play! I know it's just not the same as Liz Hatch, but I'll wear my new vanderkitten jersey just for you:D

[3MTA3]

3MTA3, pace unknown. I thought you were a phantom member. Glad we will finally meet you. It better not rain!
you're tellin' me!

[KarenG]

Zonda

I will be there this time for dinner/social after the ride...unless it gets rained out.

K

[JayC]

Put me in the 1.21 Gigawatt group. I may show up.

[3MTA3]

OH NO! i can feel my soul being crushed even now...

ouch. it stings a lil bit.

[amac]

I plan on coming for the 13-15 group!
Also, Tamim is planning on coming going some kind of faster.

-Amy

[CharleyM3]

I'll be there if it isn't a rain out. Somewhere between 10 and 16

[RickF]

Somewhere between 10 and 16Now that is my kind of range.

[Perry]

I'm out. Too wet for me.

I'll be out of town for various reasons over the next few weeks. See you all later in July.

Perry

[Pugslyyy]

I'm out. Too wet for me.

Perry

Okay, but it has already been several hours since it rained and the roads look dry under sunny skies to me.

[CharleyM3]

Zonda is under the weather so I'll take the 10-12 group. I have the queue sheets as well. See ya'll soon.

[Zonda]

I'm out also.:( I've had a sore throat, fever and no energy for two days. Charley will fill in for me to organize the riding groups and lead the 10-12 mph group. Thank you Charley!

David won't be there, but Charley has the cue sheets.

Sorry I won't get to ride and meet the new riders. Someone verify that the mysterious 3MTA3 is a live person, o.k....:D

Mike D., glad you are back.;)

Hope you all have a nice ride.

Here is an updated headcount:

Riders: 30

10-12 mph
Charley (leading from the back)
Flea
Angie M.
Dasa
Elizabeth (Izzyex)
Ed
Donna (maybe)

13-15 mph
Jon T. (Lieutenant)
Elaine (Lieutenant)
Boyd (Lieutenant)
Wayne A.
Vanderkitten in Training (Betsy) (maybe)
Andy L. (aliepins)
Tommy
Rick
Marsha (mproctor)
Kathy B.
Lisa (acorn) ***new rider, someone please make sure she has a good ride***
Rebekah
Greg (apxrider) (maybe)
Jessica (jibrantl)
Amy
Will most likely have two groups for the high and low end of the pace. Thank you Lieutenants for volunteering to shepherd the group! : )

16-18 mph
Brian J.
Brian A.
Mark S.
Jim H.
Mike D.

18+ mph
Jay C. (maybe)
Tamim

3MTA3, pace unknown.

Karen G. will join the group after the ride at the Ale House.

[xflow]

Havent rode with you guys in a while. Im still out with a slight injury from Down Hill Racing. Ill be back soon. Fred

[Zonda]

Havent rode with you guys in a while. Im still out with a slight injury from Down Hill Racing. Ill be back soon. Fred

We wish you a speedy recovery!;)

[williamtash]

zonda hope you feel better soon Hope you did not get that strep from you know who

[RickF]

I went out with Jessica, Marsha, and Rebekah. We turned around at 19.2 miles and had averaged 16.0 to that point. On the way back, Marsha and Rebekah went on with a faster group, and Jessica and I rode back with Charlie and Amy. My stats were:

Distance 38.4
Pace: 15.1
Time: 2:32

Jessica's stats should be about the same as mine. There were several mechanicals this evening. I saw two or three flats and Jessica had a pedal fall off. Charlie fixed it, and we were back on the rood in short order.

[JayC]

41.02 miles, 20.00 pace

[CharleyM3]

There were several mechanicals this evening. I saw two or three flats and Jessica had a pedal fall off. Charlie fixed it, and we were back on the rood in short order.

According to my 'puter I averaged 15.2 for 37.5 miles. About 2:25 of wheels going round.
Amy and I stuck together. She was having a bit of front deraileur trouble at the end that slowed her down. Good riding with you Amy. Jessica and Rick waited for us at stategic locations, like across major intersections. Thanks.
Anyone who wants to, send me a PM or email and I'll build up a stats post or, of course, feel free to post them here.

[Pugslyyy]

We had a good ride. 2 hours 28 minutes, covering 41.4 miles averaging 16.8 for me. We turned around on old US 1 at the US 1 overpass.

Jon

[BetsyW]

I had a good ride, Brian had 2 flats and went through a bunch of tubes. I rode with Dasa (I think) on the way out because at my 14.8 average I could not keep up with the 13-15 group that was going 16:eek: . We ran into Gerard and Wayne for a little while and Charley caught up to us after stopping to help with a mechanical. Rebecca and Marsha rode back in with us.

I ended up with 37.61 miles 14.3 average, 2:38. Brian was 37.95 miles, 19.1 average, 1:59 (on the bike).

[fvncgal]

Marcia and I rode with different folks all evening...it was a very nice ride Thanks to all who let us join them..we posted 2 hrs 32 minutes, 37.8 miles and 15.3 mph.

[Elaine]

Well, Jon tried to kill me. Had a great ride my disfunctional equpiment (according to Jon's equipment on distance) had us at 16.5 for 41.5 miles. It was a great ride and good to ride hard. Cathy and I did not look forward to going up Olive Chapel on the way home but we did it and maintained. Thanks guys.
Elaine

[aliepins]

Rode with Jon, Elaine, etc... Computer says I averaged 16.4, same distance (41.5). And that beer sure was good afterward...

Cheers,
-Andy

[BrianJ]

Just wanted to thank Mark S and Mike D for the support of fixing not 1 but 2 flats a few miles apart. We field stripped my tire 3 times before finding a tube that wouldn't pop. Tubes and CO2 cartridges for everyone.

[Pugslyyy]

Well, Jon tried to kill me. Had a great ride my disfunctional equpiment (according to Jon's equipment on distance) had us at 16.5 for 41.5 miles. It was a great ride and good to ride hard. Cathy and I did not look forward to going up Olive Chapel on the way home but we did it and maintained. Thanks guys.
Elaine

You did great Elaine! Always nice when you and Boyd come out and join in for the fun.

[KarenG]

Hey guys!

It was nice to see everyone last night and to hear about your ride. I should be back to riding the week (or weekend) of the Fourth, hopefully.

Really looking forward to riding again!

K

[Hammerhead]

I ended up having to turn around @ 9miles and head home due to possible food poisoning.

Didnt feel too good before I started, but hoped it'd go away after I got warmed up. Wrong.

Hope to see you all out there next week.

[KathyB]

Yeah, Olive Chapel killed our average a bit, but I still had a great ride with Jon, Andy, Boyd, and Elaine. My stats were 41.3 miles, 16.3 mph, 2:32. That's an amazing pace for me! And we were lucky that we didn't suffer one of the many mechanicals last night. It was a relief that everybody made it back before dark.

[3MTA3]

kathy- your bike is awesome.

[RickF]

3MTA3,

Whenever I see "MTA", I can only think of The MTA Song: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_MTA_Song

I guess my age is showing, but I used to take the MTA out to Jamacia Plain. The first time I did so, and not being from Boston, I was very surprised when the conductor made me pay to get off the train. Fortunately, I did have a dime, but that was about all I had.

[3MTA3]

this is where i got my SN from:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5c/Licensed_to_ill.jpg

still musically inspired, but a ways away from the kingston trio.

[BrianJ]

this is where i got my SN from:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5c/Licensed_to_ill.jpg

still musically inspired, but a ways away from the kingston trio.

That's funny. Haven't seen that album art in years. After riding with you till my first flat I think you could use the sig with your avatar,

Muzzin: "Enough of this Sunday stroll, let's hurt a little."

[skychef10]

Stat's for last night were 43.7 miles, 18.6 mph average, and time of 2:17. The group I rode with broke up and came back together and broke up again. In the end it ended up being Suzanne, Madeleine, Frank and myself finishing up together. It was good ride even if I did feel like someone was trying to kill me coming back on Olive Chapel.. Although we did have to question if we were seeing things when we saw Brian J with his first flat and then coming back after the turn and seeing him changing another one. Glad he had plenty of cartridges to take care of it.

Brian A

[3MTA3]

After riding with you till my first flat I think you could use the sig with your avatar,

Muzzin: "Enough of this Sunday stroll, let's hurt a little."

LOL! i seriously thought about that while i was trying to get people to move up to the lead group...

[JayC]

Man.. that could be my new motto as well.

[aliepins]

Man.. that could be my new motto as well.

Y'all's messed up!

[angieM]

Sorry, I missed the ride got stuck at work :( and couldn't make it on time. Will try again next wednesday.