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A Muzi
12-31-1969, 08:00 PM
>> On Jul 7, 7:25 pm, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Boeing is building it's new plane, the dreamliner, with carbon
>>> fiber.
>>> The wings, fuselage. The cf must be consiberably more impact
>>> resistent than
>>> bike frames, or this would be suicide for Boeing. Hell of a note, if
>>> you
>>> looked out the window and saw the wing suddenly break off in some
>>> turbulence. Even though steel is real, I think Boeing skipped steel,
>>> and
>>> went straight to aluminum. Titanium, is too expensive and I think is
>>> only
>>> used in military planes. Boeing has sold a boat load of these
>>> dreamliners
>>> on contract already, but they still don't have a flying one yet. So
>>> if you
>>> fly a lot, you might have trouble finding a flight that isn't in a
>>> dreamliner when they start filling the skies.

> Qui si parla Campagnolo aka Peter Chisholm wrote:
>> Not a lot of aircraft anything is steel..Too heavy. Titanium in some
>> tubing and some high temp areas. Aluminum and carbon is just a better
>> choice. Airbus has had an aircraft with a composite tail and other
>> flight surfaces for a long time. Same for military aircraft like the
>> _F-18 series. Carpet fiber on aircraft is old news and Boeing sees a
>> way to make these aircract light and strong and more
>> efficient..something that needs to happen cuz fuel prices aren't going
>> to come down anytime soon.

Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> What needs to be done is to replace the short range flights with
> high-speed rail. The high-speed rail would be more economically
> efficient (especially an inter-modal system that could replace most
> driving on freeways), have a lower environmental impact, and would avoid
> the need to wait in line for hours to be examined by TSA goons [1].
-snip-

Then we can wait overnight on a train platform instead of an airport
concourse. That'll be better.

Or, as the CTA last week, sit in a 95-degree stopped train for an hour
or two instead of waiting on the tarmac. I can see the improvement already!
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
01-03-1970, 06:50 AM
Andrew Muzi wrote:
>>> On Jul 7, 7:25 pm, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Boeing is building it's new plane, the dreamliner, with carbon fiber.
>>>> The wings, fuselage. The cf must be consiberably more impact
>>>> resistent than
>>>> bike frames, or this would be suicide for Boeing. Hell of a note,
>>>> if you
>>>> looked out the window and saw the wing suddenly break off in some
>>>> turbulence. Even though steel is real, I think Boeing skipped
>>>> steel, and
>>>> went straight to aluminum. Titanium, is too expensive and I think
>>>> is only
>>>> used in military planes. Boeing has sold a boat load of these
>>>> dreamliners
>>>> on contract already, but they still don't have a flying one yet. So
>>>> if you
>>>> fly a lot, you might have trouble finding a flight that isn't in a
>>>> dreamliner when they start filling the skies.
>
>> Qui si parla Campagnolo aka Peter Chisholm wrote:
>>> Not a lot of aircraft anything is steel..Too heavy. Titanium in some
>>> tubing and some high temp areas. Aluminum and carbon is just a better
>>> choice. Airbus has had an aircraft with a composite tail and other
>>> flight surfaces for a long time. Same for military aircraft like the
>>> _F-18 series. Carpet fiber on aircraft is old news and Boeing sees a
>>> way to make these aircract light and strong and more
>>> efficient..something that needs to happen cuz fuel prices aren't going
>>> to come down anytime soon.
>
> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>> What needs to be done is to replace the short range flights with
>> high-speed rail. The high-speed rail would be more economically
>> efficient (especially an inter-modal system that could replace most
>> driving on freeways), have a lower environmental impact, and would
>> avoid the need to wait in line for hours to be examined by TSA goons [1].
> -snip-
>
> Then we can wait overnight on a train platform instead of an airport
> concourse. That'll be better.

You wouldn't have to smell everyone's stinky feet while TSA operatives
check shoes for explosives.

> Or, as the CTA last week, sit in a 95-degree stopped train for an hour
> or two instead of waiting on the tarmac. I can see the improvement already!

Why would the wait be so long? Other countries have national rail
services [1] where the trains run on time almost all the time. Is the US
inferior to these countries? Sorry, but "free market good", "government
bad" ideology does not work in the real world, as the supposed free
markets are invariably gamed by a few rich insiders to their own benefit.

[1] Like Great Britain before they mucked things up with privatization.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful




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kenbikeman@gmail.com
01-03-1970, 06:50 AM
On Jul 8, 5:37 pm, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> >> On Jul 7, 7:25 pm, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Boeing is building it's new plane, the dreamliner, with carbon
> >>> fiber.
> >>> The wings, fuselage. The cf must be consiberably more impact
> >>> resistent than
> >>> bike frames, or this would be suicide for Boeing. Hell of a note, if
> >>> you
> >>> looked out the window and saw the wing suddenly break off in some
> >>> turbulence. Even though steel is real, I think Boeing skipped steel,
> >>> and
> >>> went straight to aluminum. Titanium, is too expensive and I think is
> >>> only
> >>> used in military planes. Boeing has sold a boat load of these
> >>> dreamliners
> >>> on contract already, but they still don't have a flying one yet. So
> >>> if you
> >>> fly a lot, you might have trouble finding a flight that isn't in a
> >>> dreamliner when they start filling the skies.
> > Qui si parla Campagnolo aka Peter Chisholm wrote:
> >> Not a lot of aircraft anything is steel..Too heavy. Titanium in some
> >> tubing and some high temp areas. Aluminum and carbon is just a better
> >> choice. Airbus has had an aircraft with a composite tail and other
> >> flight surfaces for a long time. Same for military aircraft like the
> >> _F-18 series. Carpet fiber on aircraft is old news and Boeing sees a
> >> way to make these aircract light and strong and more
> >> efficient..something that needs to happen cuz fuel prices aren't going
> >> to come down anytime soon.
>
> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:> What needs to be done is to replace the short range flights with
> > high-speed rail. The high-speed rail would be more economically
> > efficient (especially an inter-modal system that could replace most
> > driving on freeways), have a lower environmental impact, and would avoid
> > the need to wait in line for hours to be examined by TSA goons [1].
>
> -snip-
>
> Then we can wait overnight on a train platform instead of an airport
> concourse. That'll be better.
>
> Or, as the CTA last week, sit in a 95-degree stopped train for an hour
> or two instead of waiting on the tarmac. I can see the improvement already!
> --
> Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On the CTA you can open up the train's windows, at least on the older
ones!