Disco Tour Selction Announced

[brian_j_roth@yahoo.com]

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Discovery Channel
Tour de France Squad

Levi Leipheimer
Alberto Contador
George Hincapie
Yaroslav Popovych
Vladimir Gusev
Egoi Martinez
Sergio Paulinho
Tomas Vaitkus
Benjamin Noval

[Dan Connelly]

brian_j_roth@yahoo.com wrote:
>>From DailyPeloton
>
> Discovery Channel
> Tour de France Squad
>
> Levi Leipheimer
> Alberto Contador
> George Hincapie
> Yaroslav Popovych
> Vladimir Gusev
> Egoi Martinez
> Sergio Paulinho
> Tomas Vaitkus
> Benjamin Noval
>


-TD

[Dan Connelly]

brian_j_roth@yahoo.com wrote:
>>From DailyPeloton
>
> Discovery Channel
> Tour de France Squad
>
> Levi Leipheimer
> Alberto Contador
> George Hincapie
> Yaroslav Popovych
> Vladimir Gusev
> Egoi Martinez
> Sergio Paulinho
> Tomas Vaitkus
> Benjamin Noval
>

http://www.thepaceline.com/members/press_item.aspx?cid=3303

DISCOVERY CHANNEL PRO CYCLING ANNOUNCES
2007 TOUR DE FRANCE TEAM ROSTER

(Austin, TX) – The Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team (DCPCT) announced today its roster of riders who will compete in the 94th edition of the Tour de France, beginning in London, England on July 7th and finishing in Paris on July 29th. DCPCT Sports Director Johan Bruyneel made the announcement today by phone to the media and listed the nine-rider team as follows: Levi Leipheimer, Alberto Contador, Vladimir Gusev, George Hincapie, Egoi Martinez, Benjamin Noval, Sergio Paulinho, Yaroslav Popovych and Tomas Vaitkus.

The nine-man DCPCT squad will be led by 2007 Amgen Tour of California Winner Levi Leipheimer and backed by a mix of seasoned Tour de France veterans and rising talent. In 2007, Team Discovery Channel will focus on a high overall placing for Leipheimer, as they did with seven-time Tour winner Lance Armstrong, however, the DCPCT does have other goals.

“I am going into this Tour de France with three goals in mind. First, and most important, I want to have Levi on the podium in Paris. He has been three times in the top-10 and I think he has the form and experience to be there,” said Sport Director Johan Bruyneel. “Beyond that, I would like to win at least one stage and also have Alberto Contador win the Best Young Rider competition. That is of course a lot to ask of one team but I think it is possible given the amount of talent we have on our roster. I would even say that a fourth goal is to wear the leaders jersey too, but for me that is not a major focus unless it is because we are wearing it into Paris.”

The 2007 Tour de France route is 3,547 km in length (2,204 miles) and consists of one prologue time trial and 20 stages broken down as: eleven flat stages, six mountain stages (three mountain-top finishes), one medium mountain stage and two individual time trials.

“This is my year to make that next step and be a true contender at the Tour de France. I feel like the past five years have been an education in how to race and prepare for the Tour and now I am 100% ready. Johan has selected an amazing group of riders to support me and I could not be happier,” stated Levi Leipheimer. “There is no race out there like the Tour de France and until you have been through it you cannot know how hard it is and how best to prepare. There are more guys ‘peaking’ for the Tour than in any other race, and if you are not on top of your game you will be left behind. I have had a great season so far and done a lot of work on my time-trialing, both in the wind tunnel and in my workouts. I will be ready to go in London.”

Experience and youth will play a vital role in the team’s success in 2007. Team Discovery Channel’s Tour de France roster has 44 “grand tours” under their belt, 25 of those coming from Tour de France participation. George Hincapie leads the team having competed in 11 Tours. To date, in 2007, the 29-man Discovery Channel Team has compiled five overall (stage race) victories, 14 stage wins and 44 total podiums.

TAILWIND SPORTS

Tailwind Sports owns and operates the Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team. Founded in 1989, the team has established itself as one of the best in the world and is the only American team to have won each of the sports’ premier events: the Tour de France, Tour of Spain and Tour of Italy, including Lance Armstrong’s historic seven consecutive victories at the Tour de France.

Tailwind has partnered with Capital Sports & Entertainment (CSE), an experiential event and sports marketing firm based in Austin, Texas to manage the sponsorship and operations of the team. Tailwind supports both USA Cycling and the USA Cycling Development Foundation to help identify and develop future American cyclists. Find out more about the Team and CSE at: www.thepaceline.com and www.planetcse.com.

About Discovery Communications

Discovery Communications is the number-one nonfiction media company reaching more than 1.5 billion cumulative subscribers in over 170 countries. Through TV and digital media, Discovery's 100-plus worldwide networks include Discovery Channel, TLC, Animal Planet, Discovery Health, The Science Channel, and Discovery HD Theater. Discovery Communications is owned by Discovery Holding Co. (NASDAQ: DISCA, DISCB), Advance/Newhouse Communications and John S. Hendricks, Discovery's founder and chairman. For more information please visit www.discovery.com

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

> Discovery Channel
> Tour de France Squad
>
> Levi Leipheimer
Their best shot at the podium. And a reasonable shot at that.

> Alberto Contador
If I were Johan, I'd be looking to Contador not just for the young rider
jersey, but as a shadow for Vino in the mountains. No matter what Vino does,
put Contador on his wheel. It might blow Contador's chances for stage wins,
but it might demoralize Vino. But then you've still got Kasheckin to worry
about.

> George Hincapie
A stage win maybe? But hard to believe he'd have help from the rest of the
team in that regard. He'd have to become quite the opportunist, and he's
certainly not going to take one in an all-out mass sprint these days.

> Yaroslav Popovych
Undeniably strong and could make the difference for Levi, keeping him
sheltered and safe. Could be the future, but probably not for Discovery.

> Vladimir Gusev
Go man go! I figure Gusev to be more-likely than George to pull off a stage
win, almost accidentally. He'll just happen to sneak into the right break at
the right time, and since he won't be a threat on the GC...

> Egoi Martinez
Has been showing a lot of strength lately. Hadn't paid attention to him in
the past, but he's looking good.

> Sergio Paulinho
Don't know much about him other than being a climber and taking a silver at
the Olympics. Guess he takes the place of Padrnos?

> Tomas Vaitkus
Big guy (6'1" 176lbs) to draft behind?

> Benjamin Noval
Reliable worker

So who's been left off?

Padrnos. A bit of a surprise; seemed to be the ultimate selfless worker,
always fetching bottles, never seeming to tire or question the mundane life
of the domestique.

Danielson fell ill, Matty White's getting a bit slow, Rubiera being saved
for the Veulta?

Overall looks like a pretty strong team. How things will go against Astana
will likely determine the race.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

[G.T.]

"Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote in message
news:tCxgi.27215$YL5.13908@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
> brian_j_roth@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>From DailyPeloton
>>
>> Discovery Channel
>> Tour de France Squad
>>
>> Levi Leipheimer
>> Alberto Contador
>> George Hincapie
>> Yaroslav Popovych
>> Vladimir Gusev
>> Egoi Martinez
>> Sergio Paulinho
>> Tomas Vaitkus
>> Benjamin Noval
>>
>
> http://www.thepaceline.com/members/press_item.aspx?cid=3303
>

Is this what Discovery has on their breakfast table?

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6131132

Greg
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[Michael Press]

In article
<tCxgi.27215$YL5.13908@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m>
wrote:

> brian_j_roth@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>From DailyPeloton
> >
> > Discovery Channel
> > Tour de France Squad
> >
> > Levi Leipheimer
> > Alberto Contador
> > George Hincapie
> > Yaroslav Popovych
> > Vladimir Gusev
> > Egoi Martinez
> > Sergio Paulinho
> > Tomas Vaitkus
> > Benjamin Noval
> >
>
> http://www.thepaceline.com/members/press_item.aspx?cid=3303
>
> DISCOVERY CHANNEL PRO CYCLING ANNOUNCES
> 2007 TOUR DE FRANCE TEAM ROSTER
>
> (Austin, TX) * The Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team (DCPCT) announced today its roster.
>
> The nine-man DCPCT squad will be led by 2007 Amgen Tour of California Winner
> Levi Leipheimer and backed by a ragtag bunch of merry misfits.

-o-

--
Michael Press

[RicodJour]

On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "G.T." <getne...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> "Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote in message
>
> news:tCxgi.27215$YL5.13908@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
>
>
>
> > brian_j_r...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>From DailyPeloton
>
> >> Discovery Channel
> >> Tour de France Squad
>
> >> Levi Leipheimer
> >> Alberto Contador
> >> George Hincapie
> >> Yaroslav Popovych
> >> Vladimir Gusev
> >> Egoi Martinez
> >> Sergio Paulinho
> >> Tomas Vaitkus
> >> Benjamin Noval
>
> >http://www.thepaceline.com/members/press_item.aspx?cid=3303
>
> Is this what Discovery has on their breakfast table?
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6131132

I don't know, Greg. Is this what people consider original?
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4080579
I can't have seen that picture more than, what?, a few hundred times.

That site reminds me of my Pop's photo club critiques. Not a "That
sucks" to be found, and way too many, "Gee, that's just dandy!"
Overexposure is never a good thing.

R

[bjw@mambo.ucolick.org]

On Jun 27, 1:23 pm, "G.T." <getne...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> "Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote in message
>
> news:tCxgi.27215$YL5.13908@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
>
>
>
> > brian_j_r...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>From DailyPeloton
>
> >> Discovery Channel
> >> Tour de France Squad
>
> >> Levi Leipheimer
> >> Alberto Contador
> >> George Hincapie
> >> Yaroslav Popovych
> >> Vladimir Gusev
> >> Egoi Martinez
> >> Sergio Paulinho
> >> Tomas Vaitkus
> >> Benjamin Noval
>
> >http://www.thepaceline.com/members/press_item.aspx?cid=3303
>
> Is this what Discovery has on their breakfast table?
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6131132
>

You really are going to post this to every thread
until the TdF prologue, aren't you?

It's not incredibly clever as photo-illustration, but
if it's the only thing you can say about bike racing,
we accept it as your contribution. Do you have anything
useful to say about how to fix what you see as the
problem?

We know a lot of them dope. What's impressive, however,
is how the anti-doping authorities and the UCI are
conspiring to make the races a bigger farce than doping
ever made them, by arbitrary rules, leaking test results,
and petulant spats between the organizers and the UCI.

Ben

[G.T.]

"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "G.T." <getne...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> "Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote in message
>>
>> news:tCxgi.27215$YL5.13908@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
>>
>>
>>
>> > brian_j_r...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >>>From DailyPeloton
>>
>> >> Discovery Channel
>> >> Tour de France Squad
>>
>> >> Levi Leipheimer
>> >> Alberto Contador
>> >> George Hincapie
>> >> Yaroslav Popovych
>> >> Vladimir Gusev
>> >> Egoi Martinez
>> >> Sergio Paulinho
>> >> Tomas Vaitkus
>> >> Benjamin Noval
>>
>> >http://www.thepaceline.com/members/press_item.aspx?cid=3303
>>
>> Is this what Discovery has on their breakfast table?
>>
>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6131132
>
> I don't know, Greg. Is this what people consider original?
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4080579
> I can't have seen that picture more than, what?, a few hundred times.

Wow, what a harsh critique. I was in Yosemite, I took a couple pictures,
was I not supposed to bring or use my camera???

>
> That site reminds me of my Pop's photo club critiques. Not a "That
> sucks" to be found, and way too many, "Gee, that's just dandy!"
> Overexposure is never a good thing.

Thanks for the feedback! Can I take a photography class with your Pop?!?!

Greg
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[RicodJour]

On Jun 27, 4:46 pm, "G.T." <getne...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1182976560.094248.274520@z28g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "G.T." <getne...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> >> "Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote in message
>
> >>news:tCxgi.27215$YL5.13908@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
>
> >> > brian_j_r...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >>>From DailyPeloton
>
> >> >> Discovery Channel
> >> >> Tour de France Squad
>
> >> >> Levi Leipheimer
> >> >> Alberto Contador
> >> >> George Hincapie
> >> >> Yaroslav Popovych
> >> >> Vladimir Gusev
> >> >> Egoi Martinez
> >> >> Sergio Paulinho
> >> >> Tomas Vaitkus
> >> >> Benjamin Noval
>
> >> >http://www.thepaceline.com/members/press_item.aspx?cid=3303
>
> >> Is this what Discovery has on their breakfast table?
>
> >>http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6131132
>
> > I don't know, Greg. Is this what people consider original?
> >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4080579
> > I can't have seen that picture more than, what?, a few hundred times.
>
> Wow, what a harsh critique. I was in Yosemite, I took a couple pictures,
> was I not supposed to bring or use my camera???
>
>
>
> > That site reminds me of my Pop's photo club critiques. Not a "That
> > sucks" to be found, and way too many, "Gee, that's just dandy!"
> > Overexposure is never a good thing.
>
> Thanks for the feedback! Can I take a photography class with your Pop?!?!

No. They have standards and discourage dumbasses.

R

[G.T.]

<bjw@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote in message
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> On Jun 27, 1:23 pm, "G.T." <getne...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> "Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote in message
>>
>> news:tCxgi.27215$YL5.13908@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
>>
>>
>> > brian_j_r...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> >http://www.thepaceline.com/members/press_item.aspx?cid=3303
>>
>> Is this what Discovery has on their breakfast table?
>>
>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6131132
>>
>
> You really are going to post this to every thread
> until the TdF prologue, aren't you?

No, I hadn't planned on it until someone made a comment about it.

>
> It's not incredibly clever as photo-illustration, but

Not clever?!? Flandis' Tour de Farce number plate isn't clever? Ouch. I'm
devastated.

> if it's the only thing you can say about bike racing,

I can say alot. I've been following cycling for 35 years, much longer than
most Iowans.

> we accept it as your contribution. Do you have anything
> useful to say about how to fix what you see as the
> problem?
>

I say let them all dope, it's their bodies. Seriously, I'm not a physician,
biochemist, or physiologist so, no, I don't have anythying useful to say.
Two things I would like to see; that the riders are sure of a level playing
field, and that GC results for tours aren't changed after the final stage
has been finished.

> We know a lot of them dope. What's impressive, however,
> is how the anti-doping authorities and the UCI are
> conspiring to make the races a bigger farce than doping
> ever made them, by arbitrary rules, leaking test results,
> and petulant spats between the organizers and the UCI.

No arguments there, my commentary isn't directed at the riders but at the
organizers. Unfortunately I didn't have the materials on hand to better
convey that.

Greg
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[Andre]

On Jun 27, 4:59 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <M...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> > Discovery Channel
> > Tour de France Squad
>
> > Levi Leipheimer
>
> Their best shot at the podium. And a reasonable shot at that.
>
> > Alberto Contador
>
> If I were Johan, I'd be looking to Contador not just for the young rider
> jersey, but as a shadow for Vino in the mountains. No matter what Vino does,
> put Contador on his wheel. It might blow Contador's chances for stage wins,
> but it might demoralize Vino. But then you've still got Kasheckin to worry
> about.
>
> > George Hincapie
>
> A stage win maybe? But hard to believe he'd have help from the rest of the
> team in that regard. He'd have to become quite the opportunist, and he's
> certainly not going to take one in an all-out mass sprint these days.
>
> > Yaroslav Popovych
>
> Undeniably strong and could make the difference for Levi, keeping him
> sheltered and safe. Could be the future, but probably not for Discovery.
>
> > Vladimir Gusev
>
> Go man go! I figure Gusev to be more-likely than George to pull off a stage
> win, almost accidentally. He'll just happen to sneak into the right break at
> the right time, and since he won't be a threat on the GC...
>
> > Egoi Martinez
>
> Has been showing a lot of strength lately. Hadn't paid attention to him in
> the past, but he's looking good.
>
> > Sergio Paulinho
>
> Don't know much about him other than being a climber and taking a silver at
> the Olympics. Guess he takes the place of Padrnos?
>
> > Tomas Vaitkus
>
> Big guy (6'1" 176lbs) to draft behind?
>
> > Benjamin Noval
>
> Reliable worker
>
> So who's been left off?
>
> Padrnos. A bit of a surprise; seemed to be the ultimate selfless worker,
> always fetching bottles, never seeming to tire or question the mundane life
> of the domestique.
>
> Danielson fell ill, Matty White's getting a bit slow, Rubiera being saved
> for the Veulta?
>
> Overall looks like a pretty strong team. How things will go against Astana
> will likely determine the race.
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Sorry to see that Devolder won't be there.

Andre

[Simon Brooke]

in message <ycAgi.4401$vi5.2499@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>, Mike
Jacoubowsky ('MikeJ@ChainReaction.com') wrote:

> Overall looks like a pretty strong team. How things will go against
> Astana will likely determine the race.

Astana will be in contention, yes. CSC, also. Disco? very doubtful. Save
your money.

--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; killing [afghan|iraqi] civilians is not 'justice'

[Simon Brooke]

in message <ycAgi.4401$vi5.2499@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>, Mike
Jacoubowsky ('MikeJ@ChainReaction.com') wrote:

>> Discovery Channel
>> Tour de France Squad
>>
>> Levi Leipheimer
> Their best shot at the podium. And a reasonable shot at that.
>
>> Alberto Contador
> If I were Johan, I'd be looking to Contador not just for the young rider
> jersey, but as a shadow for Vino in the mountains. No matter what Vino
> does, put Contador on his wheel. It might blow Contador's chances for
> stage wins, but it might demoralize Vino. But then you've still got
> Kasheckin to worry about.
>
>> George Hincapie
> A stage win maybe? But hard to believe he'd have help from the rest of
> the team in that regard. He'd have to become quite the opportunist, and
> he's certainly not going to take one in an all-out mass sprint these
> days.
>
>> Yaroslav Popovych
> Undeniably strong and could make the difference for Levi, keeping him
> sheltered and safe. Could be the future, but probably not for Discovery.
>
>> Vladimir Gusev
> Go man go! I figure Gusev to be more-likely than George to pull off a
> stage win, almost accidentally. He'll just happen to sneak into the right
> break at the right time, and since he won't be a threat on the GC...
>
>> Egoi Martinez
> Has been showing a lot of strength lately. Hadn't paid attention to him
> in the past, but he's looking good.
>
>> Sergio Paulinho
> Don't know much about him other than being a climber and taking a silver
> at the Olympics. Guess he takes the place of Padrnos?
>
>> Tomas Vaitkus
> Big guy (6'1" 176lbs) to draft behind?
>
>> Benjamin Noval
> Reliable worker
>
> So who's been left off?
>
> Padrnos. A bit of a surprise; seemed to be the ultimate selfless worker,
> always fetching bottles, never seeming to tire or question the mundane
> life of the domestique.
>
> Danielson fell ill, Matty White's getting a bit slow, Rubiera being saved
> for the Veulta?
>
> Overall looks like a pretty strong team. How things will go against
> Astana will likely determine the race.
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

--
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;; and I did not speak out because I was not an asylum seeker.
;; Then they came for the gypsies,
;; and I did not speak out because I was not a gypsy...
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[G.T.]

"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 27, 4:46 pm, "G.T." <getne...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1182976560.094248.274520@z28g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "G.T." <getne...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> >> "Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:tCxgi.27215$YL5.13908@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
>>
>> >> > brian_j_r...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> >>>From DailyPeloton
>>
>> >> >> Discovery Channel
>> >> >> Tour de France Squad
>>
>> >> >> Levi Leipheimer
>> >> >> Alberto Contador
>> >> >> George Hincapie
>> >> >> Yaroslav Popovych
>> >> >> Vladimir Gusev
>> >> >> Egoi Martinez
>> >> >> Sergio Paulinho
>> >> >> Tomas Vaitkus
>> >> >> Benjamin Noval
>>
>> >> >http://www.thepaceline.com/members/press_item.aspx?cid=3303
>>
>> >> Is this what Discovery has on their breakfast table?
>>
>> >>http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6131132
>>
>> > I don't know, Greg. Is this what people consider original?
>> >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4080579
>> > I can't have seen that picture more than, what?, a few hundred times.
>>
>> Wow, what a harsh critique. I was in Yosemite, I took a couple pictures,
>> was I not supposed to bring or use my camera???
>>
>>
>>
>> > That site reminds me of my Pop's photo club critiques. Not a "That
>> > sucks" to be found, and way too many, "Gee, that's just dandy!"
>> > Overexposure is never a good thing.
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback! Can I take a photography class with your
>> Pop?!?!
>
> No. They have standards and discourage dumbasses.

Just like pro cyclists, huh!!!

Greg
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[Keith]

>> --Mike Jacoubowsky
>> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
>> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
>Sorry to see that Devolder won't be there.

Yes, especially after his stellar "Tour de Suisse"...odd...maybe he
doesn't want to sign the "contract".

[Dwayne]

On Jun 27, 6:07 pm, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Sorry to see that Devolder won't be there.

Good Devolder item at

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jul07/jul02news

He'd rather than be a protected rider @ Vuelta than a domestique @
TDF. Seems believable to me.

[RicodJour]

On Jun 27, 6:19 pm, "G.T." <getne...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote in message
>
> news:1182977898.048045.282990@n2g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jun 27, 1:23 pm, "G.T." <getne...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> >> "Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote in message
>
> >>news:tCxgi.27215$YL5.13908@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
>
> >> > brian_j_r...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >> >http://www.thepaceline.com/members/press_item.aspx?cid=3303
>
> >> Is this what Discovery has on their breakfast table?
>
> >>http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6131132
>
> > You really are going to post this to every thread
> > until the TdF prologue, aren't you?
>
> No, I hadn't planned on it until someone made a comment about it.
>
>
>
> > It's not incredibly clever as photo-illustration, but
>
> Not clever?!? Flandis' Tour de Farce number plate isn't clever? Ouch. I'm
> devastated.
>
> > if it's the only thing you can say about bike racing,
>
> I can say alot. I've been following cycling for 35 years, much longer than
> most Iowans.
>
> > we accept it as your contribution. Do you have anything
> > useful to say about how to fix what you see as the
> > problem?
>
> I say let them all dope, it's their bodies. Seriously, I'm not a physician,
> biochemist, or physiologist so, no, I don't have anythying useful to say.
> Two things I would like to see; that the riders are sure of a level playing
> field, and that GC results for tours aren't changed after the final stage
> has been finished.
>
> > We know a lot of them dope. What's impressive, however,
> > is how the anti-doping authorities and the UCI are
> > conspiring to make the races a bigger farce than doping
> > ever made them, by arbitrary rules, leaking test results,
> > and petulant spats between the organizers and the UCI.
>
> No arguments there, my commentary isn't directed at the riders but at the
> organizers. Unfortunately I didn't have the materials on hand to better
> convey that.

Just when I'm about to write you off as a dumbass, you go ahead and
make some sense. I -hate- that! ;)

R

[RonSonic]

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:19:44 -0700, "G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com> wrote:

>
><bjw@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote in message
>news:1182977898.048045.282990@n2g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>> On Jun 27, 1:23 pm, "G.T." <getne...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>> "Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:tCxgi.27215$YL5.13908@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
>>>
>>>
>>> > brian_j_r...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >http://www.thepaceline.com/members/press_item.aspx?cid=3303
>>>
>>> Is this what Discovery has on their breakfast table?
>>>
>>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6131132
>>>
>>
>> You really are going to post this to every thread
>> until the TdF prologue, aren't you?
>
>No, I hadn't planned on it until someone made a comment about it.
>
>>
>> It's not incredibly clever as photo-illustration, but
>
>Not clever?!? Flandis' Tour de Farce number plate isn't clever? Ouch. I'm
>devastated.
>
>> if it's the only thing you can say about bike racing,
>
>I can say alot. I've been following cycling for 35 years, much longer than
>most Iowans.
>
>> we accept it as your contribution. Do you have anything
>> useful to say about how to fix what you see as the
>> problem?
>>
>
>I say let them all dope, it's their bodies. Seriously, I'm not a physician,
>biochemist, or physiologist so, no, I don't have anythying useful to say.
>Two things I would like to see; that the riders are sure of a level playing
>field, and that GC results for tours aren't changed after the final stage
>has been finished.
>
>> We know a lot of them dope. What's impressive, however,
>> is how the anti-doping authorities and the UCI are
>> conspiring to make the races a bigger farce than doping
>> ever made them, by arbitrary rules, leaking test results,
>> and petulant spats between the organizers and the UCI.
>
>No arguments there, my commentary isn't directed at the riders but at the
>organizers. Unfortunately I didn't have the materials on hand to better
>convey that.
>
>Greg

So you can't be bothered to express what you want to say so you repeatedly post
a photo that says something different but is eloquent.

Why not just cut and paste sonnets or monty python dialogue then?

Ron

[Andre]

On Jun 27, 7:38 pm, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> >> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
> >> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
> >Sorry to see that Devolder won't be there.
>
> Yes, especially after his stellar "Tour de Suisse"...odd...maybe he
> doesn't want to sign the "contract".

Or maybe he doesn't want to play second fiddle to Levi. But I thought
he was one of the strongest for Discovery. Hopefully he'll be a late
replacement.

Andre

[Dwayne]

On Jun 27, 9:02 pm, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Or maybe [Devolder] doesn't want to play second fiddle to Levi. But I thought
> he was one of the strongest for Discovery. Hopefully he'll be a late
> replacement.

His site seemed to express some disappointment, but mentioned the
Vuelta. Could be some interesting stories re. the Vuelta team: maybe
no Contador (he's shooting for best young rider at TdF), Danielson and
Brajkovic seem to be in the doghouse (illness and injury,
respectively), possibly Devolder could play a big role...

[Ewoud Dronkert]

Dwayne wrote:
> His site seemed to express some disappointment, but mentioned the
> Vuelta.

According to http://tt.vrt.be/tt_een.php?p=429&g=0&s=1&r=0&x=1 it was
his own decision to do the Vuelta and not the Tour. It says team
management wanted to persuade him but he stayed with his original
plan. Strange. Smells a little like bull****.


--
E. Dronkert

[Dan Connelly]

Simon Brooke wrote:
> in message <ycAgi.4401$vi5.2499@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>, Mike
> Jacoubowsky ('MikeJ@ChainReaction.com') wrote:

>> Danielson fell ill,

http://www.tomdanielson.com/pages/kw.htm

[G.T.]

RonSonic wrote:
>
>
> So you can't be bothered to express what you want to say so you repeatedly post
> a photo that says something different but is eloquent.
>
> Why not just cut and paste sonnets or monty python dialogue then?
>

Generous, valeric, Jehovah's Witness
Stands in Cologne Marktplatz
Drums come in
When the drums come in fast
Drums to shock, into brass evil

What have you got in that paper bag?
Is it a dose of Vitamin C?
Ain't got no time for Western medicine
I am Damo Suzuki

The ****-up like red acid rain
Give it to me Daki every day
Who is Mr. Karlheinz Stockhausen?
Introduce me
I'm Damo Suzuki

Soundtracks, Soundtracks
Melched together, the lights
The lights above you

Listener was in cahoots with Fritz Lieber
And read him every day
Recipe for fear gas, amount of salt ash
I put by [cup of] meine fire, okay
I have no time for Western medicine
I am Damo Suzuki

May we go back to days pre-Virgin
Cannot get on clear vinyl
The handle that was brass, is now brass evil
The rock that was an egg, is in wrong cradle
The hand that cradles the rock, makes egg gooey
I am Damo Suzuki

Is this west latent pattern?
Run it, says Damo's spirit
Is this lesser European?
Speak it, says Damo's spirit
I am Damo Suzuki


Greg
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