Re: Can you make it to the market on a bike?

[Edward Dolan]

"Joe the Aroma" <bdjr76@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "donquijote1954" <nolionnoproblem@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> I think it has to with the lions considering the frugal bikes mere
>> peanuts.They are still important to the monkey though...
>>
>> RIDING A BIKE COSTS PEANUTS
>>
>> OK, since the lion (for whom "peanuts" is not important) refuses to
>> listen to the monkey asking for bike facilities,* let's scrutinize the
>> secrets ($$$) of the political jungle, where "democracy" is the word
>> of choice...
>>
>> "The highest measure of democracy is neither the 'extent of freedom'
>> nor the 'extent of equality', but rather the highest measure of
>> participation" -A. d. Benoist
>>
>> Then I'd assume that 50% of the American public and 80% of the young
>> who don't vote do not live in democracy. Or perhaps they see it as a
>> waste of time --and money.
>>
>> "Remember the Golden Rule: Those with the Gold, Rule" (saying)
>>
>> "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" (title of book)
>>
>> And this one...
>>
>> "Freedom is when the people can speak, democracy is when the
>> government listens" -Alastair Farrugia
>>
>> Which explains why bike lanes won't happen in the foreseeable future.
>
> Your idiotic platitudes aside, the reason why bike lanes won't happen is
> because of democracy, the vast majority of people do not bike and therefor
> do not demand bike lanes. Democracy in action.

There are many sidewalks in the old part of my home town, in fact along
every street, whereas there are not so many sidewalks in the newer parts of
town. It is a measure of how far civilization has descended into the abbess
to note the absences of sidewalks.

Some things are worth doing for the sake of civilization regardless of the
hoi polloi who do not know their asses from a hole in the ground. Too much
democracy in action is a recipe for disaster.

> I'm not saying it's right, I'm for bike lanes because they're a lot
> cheaper than mass transit that probably will not be used. Bike riding is
> the perfect antidote to many of our's, and society's, problems and I wish
> the naysays would not lump this one in with the rest of what idiotic
> greens spout off.

We need bike paths going every which way (just as we need sidewalks) and we
also need mass transit going every which way. The main thing we need to get
rid of is the god damn private motor vehicle.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

[Joe the Aroma]

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
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> Some things are worth doing for the sake of civilization regardless of the
> hoi polloi who do not know their asses from a hole in the ground. Too much
> democracy in action is a recipe for disaster.

Hey, all I'm saying is that don't think it's a lack of democracy that is the
reason there isn't bike lanes.

>> I'm not saying it's right, I'm for bike lanes because they're a lot
>> cheaper than mass transit that probably will not be used. Bike riding is
>> the perfect antidote to many of our's, and society's, problems and I wish
>> the naysays would not lump this one in with the rest of what idiotic
>> greens spout off.
>
> We need bike paths going every which way (just as we need sidewalks) and
> we also need mass transit going every which way. The main thing we need to
> get rid of is the god damn private motor vehicle.

Nah, we need people who can learn to live with other forms of
transportation, whether it be cars or bicycles.

[Edward Dolan]

"Joe the Aroma" <bdjr76@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
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>> Some things are worth doing for the sake of civilization regardless of
>> the hoi polloi who do not know their asses from a hole in the ground. Too
>> much democracy in action is a recipe for disaster.
>
> Hey, all I'm saying is that don't think it's a lack of democracy that is
> the reason there isn't bike lanes.
>
>>> I'm not saying it's right, I'm for bike lanes because they're a lot
>>> cheaper than mass transit that probably will not be used. Bike riding is
>>> the perfect antidote to many of our's, and society's, problems and I
>>> wish the naysays would not lump this one in with the rest of what
>>> idiotic greens spout off.
>>
>> We need bike paths going every which way (just as we need sidewalks) and
>> we also need mass transit going every which way. The main thing we need
>> to get rid of is the god damn private motor vehicle.
>
> Nah, we need people who can learn to live with other forms of
> transportation, whether it be cars or bicycles.

Joe, about once a year I visit a major metro and I am appalled by the
traffic congestion that I see everywhere in those metros. It is simply
insane how we keep piling up motor vehicles on top of motor vehicles.

I believe there is a 12 lane highway going into Washington DC from Maryland
and it is still not enough. God damn it - 12 lanes! Just how ****ing stupid
can we get?

I would like to see all private motor vehicles banned forever from a
civilized nation. They reek of the 20th century and we no longer need that
kind of aggravation.

Mass transit is the only solution. Europe had this figured out many years
ago and now we will have to figure it out too. Personally, I have always
liked trolley cars. I remember that the Twin Cities (Minneapolis and
St.Paul) had a fairly good system back in the 40's and 50's.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

[Joe the Aroma]

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
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>> Nah, we need people who can learn to live with other forms of
>> transportation, whether it be cars or bicycles.
>
> Joe, about once a year I visit a major metro and I am appalled by the
> traffic congestion that I see everywhere in those metros. It is simply
> insane how we keep piling up motor vehicles on top of motor vehicles.

It's how people want to live.

> I believe there is a 12 lane highway going into Washington DC from
> Maryland and it is still not enough. God damn it - 12 lanes! Just how
> ****ing stupid can we get?

It's the 21st century. The government and the economy is set up to
accomadate what people want realistically. To me a 12 lane highway is a
great engineering achievement. If we ever get flying cars, we might look
back at highway travel with the same silly nostaligia we look back on mass
transit with.

> I would like to see all private motor vehicles banned forever from a
> civilized nation. They reek of the 20th century and we no longer need that
> kind of aggravation.

Well I'm sure you'd make a great and popular president.

> Mass transit is the only solution. Europe had this figured out many years
> ago and now we will have to figure it out too. Personally, I have always
> liked trolley cars. I remember that the Twin Cities (Minneapolis and
> St.Paul) had a fairly good system back in the 40's and 50's.

Oh God here we go with Europe again. Europe does this, Europe does that.
You're like someone's *****y annoying relative ("Why don't you be more like
your cousing Jeffy?"). I don't know how or why they do that in Europe, but
our citizens enjoy living their life differently. A bunch of kooky, angry,
impotent USENET posters isn't going to change that, or anything.

[Sancho Panza]

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
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> about once a year I visit a major metro and I am appalled by the traffic
> congestion that I see everywhere in those metros.

Nothing like preaching from above to the great unwashed.

[Tim McNamara]

In article <FO2dnQoOX9R6vjXbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Joe the Aroma" <bdjr76@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:CJSdncWuINxHOjrbnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@prairiewave. com...
> >> Nah, we need people who can learn to live with other forms of
> >> transportation, whether it be cars or bicycles.
> >
> > Joe, about once a year I visit a major metro and I am appalled by
> > the traffic congestion that I see everywhere in those metros. It is
> > simply insane how we keep piling up motor vehicles on top of motor
> > vehicles.
>
> It's how people want to live.

No, it's how people think they have to live because they've been on the
receiving end of massive social engineering by the automotive and oil
industries to benefit the automotive and oil industries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy

If you ask people whether they *want* to spend the equivalent an a work
week every year sitting in traffic, they'd tell you "no." Except for a
few weirdos. I calculated once that if I didn't own a car and pay the
associated costs, I could work four days a week and come out ahead. My
compromise is to buy a good used car for cash and replace it every 10
years if needed, and to ride my bike for practical use (going to work,
going to the store, going to visit friends, etc.) when I can.

<snip>

> Oh God here we go with Europe again. Europe does this, Europe does
> that. You're like someone's *****y annoying relative ("Why don't you
> be more like your cousing Jeffy?"). I don't know how or why they do
> that in Europe, but our citizens enjoy living their life differently.

"Enjoy" is perhaps not the right word, given the endless *****ing I hear
from people about traffic. But they also don't want to pay the trillion
dollars in taxes that it would take for our state to eliminate the road
congestion caused by our one-car-per-person lifestyle. Americans do
like the false sense of independence they get from using a car, I'll
certainly agree with you there, but car dependence creates many problems.

[Edward Dolan]

"Joe the Aroma" <bdjr76@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
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>>> Nah, we need people who can learn to live with other forms of
>>> transportation, whether it be cars or bicycles.
>>
>> Joe, about once a year I visit a major metro and I am appalled by the
>> traffic congestion that I see everywhere in those metros. It is simply
>> insane how we keep piling up motor vehicles on top of motor vehicles.
>
> It's how people want to live.

Screw the people! I know better what is good for them than they do
themselves.

>> I believe there is a 12 lane highway going into Washington DC from
>> Maryland and it is still not enough. God damn it - 12 lanes! Just how
>> ****ing stupid can we get?
>
> It's the 21st century. The government and the economy is set up to
> accomadate what people want realistically. To me a 12 lane highway is a
> great engineering achievement. If we ever get flying cars, we might look
> back at highway travel with the same silly nostaligia we look back on mass
> transit with.

There are all kinds of wind power generators going up in the countryside
around here (SW Minnesota) and I took note of more new high power utility
lines going up along the interstate highway the other day. My God, the
countryside is being totally ruined! Take your brave new world and shove it
up your ass!

>> I would like to see all private motor vehicles banned forever from a
>> civilized nation. They reek of the 20th century and we no longer need
>> that kind of aggravation.
>
> Well I'm sure you'd make a great and popular president.

I just love to see grid lock in the Metros. I look at all the fools sitting
in their cars and think ... what g.d. fools they are!

>> Mass transit is the only solution. Europe had this figured out many years
>> ago and now we will have to figure it out too. Personally, I have always
>> liked trolley cars. I remember that the Twin Cities (Minneapolis and
>> St.Paul) had a fairly good system back in the 40's and 50's.
>
> Oh God here we go with Europe again. Europe does this, Europe does that.
> You're like someone's *****y annoying relative ("Why don't you be more
> like your cousing Jeffy?"). I don't know how or why they do that in
> Europe, but our citizens enjoy living their life differently. A bunch of
> kooky, angry, impotent USENET posters isn't going to change that, or
> anything.

It all has to do with population density. Hey, you want America to be like
it was when we grew up? Then you have to get rid of 150 million people. But
we are now at 300 million and we will soon be at 1 billion the way things
are going. Europe is just ahead of us, that is all. We will have to play
catch up since we cannot control our population.

Demography is destiny. Anyone who does not believe this is a fool.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

[rotten]

On Jul 26, 10:12 am, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> In article <FO2dnQoOX9R6vjXbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdn...@comcast.com>,
> "Joe the Aroma" <bdj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote in message
> >news:CJSdncWuINxHOjrbnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@prairiewave. com...
> > >> Nah, we need people who can learn to live with other forms of
> > >> transportation, whether it be cars or bicycles.
>
> > > Joe, about once a year I visit a major metro and I am appalled by
> > > the traffic congestion that I see everywhere in those metros. It is
> > > simply insane how we keep piling up motor vehicles on top of motor
> > > vehicles.
>
> > It's how people want to live.
>
> No, it's how people think they have to live because they've been on the
> receiving end of massive social engineering by the automotive and oil
> industries to benefit the automotive and oil industries.

You're a kook and yes I've heard of this. All this did was replace
streetcars with busses.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy
>
> If you ask people whether they *want* to spend the equivalent an a work
> week every year sitting in traffic, they'd tell you "no." Except for a
> few weirdos. I calculated once that if I didn't own a car and pay the
> associated costs, I could work four days a week and come out ahead. My
> compromise is to buy a good used car for cash and replace it every 10
> years if needed, and to ride my bike for practical use (going to work,
> going to the store, going to visit friends, etc.) when I can.

People are willing to accept a little traffic for having a nice house
out in the burbs. I'm sorry to tell you this but it's true.

> > Oh God here we go with Europe again. Europe does this, Europe does
> > that. You're like someone's *****y annoying relative ("Why don't you
> > be more like your cousing Jeffy?"). I don't know how or why they do
> > that in Europe, but our citizens enjoy living their life differently.
>
> "Enjoy" is perhaps not the right word, given the endless *****ing I hear
> from people about traffic. But they also don't want to pay the trillion
> dollars in taxes that it would take for our state to eliminate the road
> congestion caused by our one-car-per-person lifestyle. Americans do
> like the false sense of independence they get from using a car, I'll
> certainly agree with you there, but car dependence creates many problems.

Haha, "false sense of independence". I like that one. Apparently
people don't know what's best for them.

[rotten]

On Jul 26, 1:34 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Joe the Aroma" <bdj...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:FO2dnQoOX9R6vjXbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@comca st.com...
>
>
>
> > "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote in message
> >news:CJSdncWuINxHOjrbnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@prairiewave. com...
> >>> Nah, we need people who can learn to live with other forms of
> >>> transportation, whether it be cars or bicycles.
>
> >> Joe, about once a year I visit a major metro and I am appalled by the
> >> traffic congestion that I see everywhere in those metros. It is simply
> >> insane how we keep piling up motor vehicles on top of motor vehicles.
>
> > It's how people want to live.
>
> Screw the people! I know better what is good for them than they do
> themselves.

You may laugh but this is an accepted premise in these kooky websites
listed above.

> >> I believe there is a 12 lane highway going into Washington DC from
> >> Maryland and it is still not enough. God damn it - 12 lanes! Just how
> >> ****ing stupid can we get?
>
> > It's the 21st century. The government and the economy is set up to
> > accomadate what people want realistically. To me a 12 lane highway is a
> > great engineering achievement. If we ever get flying cars, we might look
> > back at highway travel with the same silly nostaligia we look back on mass
> > transit with.
>
> There are all kinds of wind power generators going up in the countryside
> around here (SW Minnesota) and I took note of more new high power utility
> lines going up along the interstate highway the other day. My God, the
> countryside is being totally ruined! Take your brave new world and shove it
> up your ass!

I guess your computer is run by FIRE.

> >> I would like to see all private motor vehicles banned forever from a
> >> civilized nation. They reek of the 20th century and we no longer need
> >> that kind of aggravation.
>
> > Well I'm sure you'd make a great and popular president.
>
> I just love to see grid lock in the Metros. I look at all the fools sitting
> in their cars and think ... what g.d. fools they are!
>
> >> Mass transit is the only solution. Europe had this figured out many years
> >> ago and now we will have to figure it out too. Personally, I have always
> >> liked trolley cars. I remember that the Twin Cities (Minneapolis and
> >> St.Paul) had a fairly good system back in the 40's and 50's.
>
> > Oh God here we go with Europe again. Europe does this, Europe does that.
> > You're like someone's *****y annoying relative ("Why don't you be more
> > like your cousing Jeffy?"). I don't know how or why they do that in
> > Europe, but our citizens enjoy living their life differently. A bunch of
> > kooky, angry, impotent USENET posters isn't going to change that, or
> > anything.
>
> It all has to do with population density. Hey, you want America to be like
> it was when we grew up? Then you have to get rid of 150 million people. But
> we are now at 300 million and we will soon be at 1 billion the way things
> are going. Europe is just ahead of us, that is all. We will have to play
> catch up since we cannot control our population.

More kooky looniness. Europe is far more populated than we are.

[Edward Dolan]

"rotten" <bdjr76@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 26, 1:34 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
>> It all has to do with population density. Hey, you want America to be
>> like
>> it was when we grew up? Then you have to get rid of 150 million people.
>> But
>> we are now at 300 million and we will soon be at 1 billion the way things
>> are going. Europe is just ahead of us, that is all. We will have to play
>> catch up since we cannot control our population.
>
> More kooky looniness. Europe is far more populated than we are.

But we are getting there you confounded idiot! If and when we become as
populated as Europe we will have to resort to their way of managing things.
Wyoming is empty compared to England; the Eastern Seaboard is not. What is
there about this that you do not understand?

Demography is destiny. Population 101.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

[donquijote1954]

On Jul 26, 9:22 pm, rotten <bdj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Haha, "false sense of independence". I like that one. Apparently
> people don't know what's best for them.-

The sheep just follow the slogans. "War good, healthcare baaaaad."

[rotten]

On Jul 26, 10:13 pm, donquijote1954 <nolionnoprob...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Jul 26, 9:22 pm, rotten <bdj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Haha, "false sense of independence". I like that one. Apparently
> > people don't know what's best for them.-
>
> The sheep just follow the slogans. "War good, healthcare baaaaad."

Right, because you obviously know my position on both right? You're a
presumptious *******.

[William]

On Jul 29, 7:32 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "rotten" <bdj...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1185499361.817887.57470@g4g2000hsf.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> > On Jul 26, 1:34 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
> >> It all has to do with population density. Hey, you want America to be
> >> like
> >> it was when we grew up? Then you have to get rid of 150 million people.
> >> But
> >> we are now at 300 million and we will soon be at 1 billion the way things
> >> are going. Europe is just ahead of us, that is all. We will have to play
> >> catch up since we cannot control our population.
>
> > More kooky looniness. Europe is far more populated than we are.
>
> But we are getting there you confounded idiot! If and when we become as
> populated as Europe we will have to resort to their way of managing things.
> Wyoming is empty compared to England; the Eastern Seaboard is not. What is
> there about this that you do not understand?
>
> Demography is destiny. Population 101.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Cycling infrastructure

The cycling infrastructure comprises all the public ways that are
available to cyclists traveling from one destination to another. This
includes the same network of public roads that is used by drivers of
motor vehicles minus those roads from which every cyclist has been
banned (most freeways) and plus additional routes that are not
available to motorised traffic, such as cycle tracks and (in some
jurisdictions) sidewalks.

The manner in which the public roads network is designed, built and
managed can have a significant effect on the utility and safety of
cycling as a form of transport. The key issue is whether the cycling
network provides the users with direct, convenient routes minimising
unnecessary delay and effort in reaching key destinations. Here it is
argued that settlements that provide a dense roads network consisting
of interconnected streets will tend to be viable utility cycling
environments.

In contrast, other communities may use a cul-de-sac based, housing
estate/housing subdivision model where minor roads are disconnected
and only feed into a street hierarchy of progressively more "arterial"
type roads. It is arguable that such communities discourage cycling by
imposing unnecessary detours and forcing all cyclists onto busy and
dangerous arterial roads for all trips regardless of destination or
purpose. It is also reported that the extra motor-traffic such
communities generate tends to increase overall per-capita traffic
casualty rates. Designs that propose to resolve the contradiction
between the cul-de-sac and the traditional interconnected network,
such as the Fused Grid, have been proposed and built with varying
levels of success. Particular issues have arisen with personal
security and public order problems in some housing schemes using "back
alley" type links.

Aspects of the cycling infrastructure may be viewed as either cyclist-
hostile or as cyclist-friendly. In general, roads infrastructure based
on prioritising motoring and attempting to create a state of constant
"flow" for cars will tend to be hostile to non-car users. In 1996, the
British Cyclists Touring Club (CTC) and the Institute for Highways and
Transportation jointly produced the document "Cycle-friendly
infrastructure: Guidelines for planning and design". This defined a
hierarchy of measures for cycling promotion in which the goal is to
convert a more or less cyclist-hostile roads infrastructure into one
which encourages and facilitates cycling.

[donquijote1954]

On Jul 30, 9:36 am, William <willbecoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Aspects of the cycling infrastructure may be viewed as either cyclist-
> hostile or as cyclist-friendly. In general, roads infrastructure based
> on prioritising motoring and attempting to create a state of constant
> "flow" for cars will tend to be hostile to non-car users. In 1996, the
> British Cyclists Touring Club (CTC) and the Institute for Highways and
> Transportation jointly produced the document "Cycle-friendly
> infrastructure: Guidelines for planning and design". This defined a
> hierarchy of measures for cycling promotion in which the goal is to
> convert a more or less cyclist-hostile roads infrastructure into one
> which encourages and facilitates cycling.-

Thank you for your valuable info. However I don't think much will be
accomplished when there's no political will.

Our approach should be to work on the political will by having actual
campaigns of civil disobedience (not budging from center of lane).
RIDING THE LANE is a good way to claim our place under the sun, and
not always be on the lookout for the dinosaurs.

A good identifying T-shirt should help to create the strength given by
numbers...

http://www.cafepress.com/burncalories

[Edward Dolan]

"William" <willbecool10@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 29, 7:32 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> "rotten" <bdj...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1185499361.817887.57470@g4g2000hsf.googlegrou ps.com...
>>
>> > On Jul 26, 1:34 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> [...]
>> >> It all has to do with population density. Hey, you want America to be
>> >> like
>> >> it was when we grew up? Then you have to get rid of 150 million
>> >> people.
>> >> But
>> >> we are now at 300 million and we will soon be at 1 billion the way
>> >> things
>> >> are going. Europe is just ahead of us, that is all. We will have to
>> >> play
>> >> catch up since we cannot control our population.
>>
>> > More kooky looniness. Europe is far more populated than we are.
>>
>> But we are getting there you confounded idiot! If and when we become as
>> populated as Europe we will have to resort to their way of managing
>> things.
>> Wyoming is empty compared to England; the Eastern Seaboard is not. What
>> is
>> there about this that you do not understand?
>>
>> Demography is destiny. Population 101.
>
> Cycling infrastructure
>
> The cycling infrastructure comprises all the public ways that are
> available to cyclists traveling from one destination to another. This
> includes the same network of public roads that is used by drivers of
> motor vehicles minus those roads from which every cyclist has been
> banned (most freeways) and plus additional routes that are not
> available to motorised traffic, such as cycle tracks and (in some
> jurisdictions) sidewalks.
>
> The manner in which the public roads network is designed, built and
> managed can have a significant effect on the utility and safety of
> cycling as a form of transport. The key issue is whether the cycling
> network provides the users with direct, convenient routes minimising
> unnecessary delay and effort in reaching key destinations. Here it is
> argued that settlements that provide a dense roads network consisting
> of interconnected streets will tend to be viable utility cycling
> environments.
>
> In contrast, other communities may use a cul-de-sac based, housing
> estate/housing subdivision model where minor roads are disconnected
> and only feed into a street hierarchy of progressively more "arterial"
> type roads. It is arguable that such communities discourage cycling by
> imposing unnecessary detours and forcing all cyclists onto busy and
> dangerous arterial roads for all trips regardless of destination or
> purpose. It is also reported that the extra motor-traffic such
> communities generate tends to increase overall per-capita traffic
> casualty rates. Designs that propose to resolve the contradiction
> between the cul-de-sac and the traditional interconnected network,
> such as the Fused Grid, have been proposed and built with varying
> levels of success. Particular issues have arisen with personal
> security and public order problems in some housing schemes using "back
> alley" type links.
>
> Aspects of the cycling infrastructure may be viewed as either cyclist-
> hostile or as cyclist-friendly. In general, roads infrastructure based
> on prioritising motoring and attempting to create a state of constant
> "flow" for cars will tend to be hostile to non-car users. In 1996, the
> British Cyclists Touring Club (CTC) and the Institute for Highways and
> Transportation jointly produced the document "Cycle-friendly
> infrastructure: Guidelines for planning and design". This defined a
> hierarchy of measures for cycling promotion in which the goal is to
> convert a more or less cyclist-hostile roads infrastructure into one
> which encourages and facilitates cycling.

All of the above is only too true, which is why I am grateful I do not live
in a Metro. Small towns work best for cycling.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota