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Simon Brooke
12-31-1969, 08:00 PM
in message <8uCdnUJDov4hRzXbnZ2dnUVZ8s-qnZ2d@pipex.net>, Tony Raven
('traven@gotadsl.co.uk') wrote:

> Ben C wrote:
>> On 2007-07-26, Simon Brooke <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Having read around further, it appears that a director of Rabobank (the
>>> bank) saw an interview with Davide Cassani on Dutch television last
>>> night, and phoned up the team manager and told him to lose Rasmussen.
>>> There does not seem to be any other evidence.
>>
>> One of the stories I read said that Rasmussen had admitted to de Rooy
>> that he had lied about his whereabouts. It may be that de Rooy heard
>> about the Cassani interview, confronted Rasmussen, Rasmussen admitted he
>> lied, de Rooy sacked him, Rasmussen had time to compose himself, found
>> out that actually the only evidence he was in Italy is this bit of
>> hearsay from Cassani, and then started telling the press what he wishes
>> he had thought of telling de Rooy at the time, i.e. denying he was in
>> Italy.
>
> I think Simon's report is more credible. De Rooy was quoted to be in a
> high state of agitation before confronting Ramussen. However Rabobank
> is now saying it was a team and not a sponsor decision.

The question that's in my mind is how well did Cassani know Rasmussen, and
how close was he when he saw him? He says he saw him 'training in the
rain' and he gave two dates. Does that mean he believed he saw him on both
days, or that he isn't sure of the date? Furthermore, does this mean he
saw a cyclist the width of a carriageway away, or does it mean he cycled
alongside and spoke with Rasmussen?

Rasmussen is an unusual looking man, but he isn't that unusual; and someone
seen across the width of a road in pouring rain is easy to misidentify. On
the other hand if Cassani knows Rasmussen well and spoke with him, that's
a different story.

Does anyone know?

--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

See one nuclear war, you've seen them all.

Morten Reippuert Knudsen
01-03-1970, 08:41 AM
Simon Brooke <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote:

> Rasmussen is an unusual looking man, but he isn't that unusual; and someone
> seen across the width of a road in pouring rain is easy to misidentify. On
> the other hand if Cassani knows Rasmussen well and spoke with him, that's
> a different story.

> Does anyone know?

Cassani knows Rasmussen from his friendship with Rolf Sørensen.

Cassina syas the talked to Rasmussen and offered him food and warm
clothes in the rainstorm.

--
Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.

Simon Brooke
01-03-1970, 08:42 AM
in message <tsonn4-lg5.ln1@wm.reippuert.dk>, Morten Reippuert Knudsen
('spam@reippuert.dk') wrote:

> Simon Brooke <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Rasmussen is an unusual looking man, but he isn't that unusual; and
>> someone seen across the width of a road in pouring rain is easy to
>> misidentify. On the other hand if Cassani knows Rasmussen well and spoke
>> with him, that's a different story.
>
>> Does anyone know?
>
> Cassani knows Rasmussen from his friendship with Rolf Sørensen.
>
> Cassina syas he talked to Rasmussen and offered him food and warm
> clothes in the rainstorm.

H'mmm. If that's true, it sounds conclusive.

--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; Women are from Venus. Men are from Mars. Lusers are from Uranus.

Morten Reippuert Knudsen
01-03-1970, 08:46 AM
Simon Brooke <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote:

> >> Rasmussen is an unusual looking man, but he isn't that unusual; and
> >> someone seen across the width of a road in pouring rain is easy to
> >> misidentify. On the other hand if Cassani knows Rasmussen well and spoke
> >> with him, that's a different story.
> >
> >> Does anyone know?
> >
> > Cassani knows Rasmussen from his friendship with Rolf Sørensen.
> >
> > Cassina syas he talked to Rasmussen and offered him food and warm
> > clothes in the rainstorm.

> H'mmm. If that's true, it sounds conclusive.

It's time to go for the throats of the rest of the podium, their
connections to dr. Ferrari (Evans and Leipheimer) and Operation Pureto
(Contador) shuld be just as efficient.

However i don't see that happening. The ASO leads the UCI 2:1
(Rasmussen+Unibet:Astana), and they can play defensivly for the
remaining days of the TDF.

The press won a convinsingly knockout victory, they will be pleased
with themselves for the remaining days.

As for me im sad; the best rider didn't win and he's career is ruined,
because of the war between ASO and UCI - for the first time in +20
years it wasn't race between equals. Shame on them.

--
Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.

rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com
01-03-1970, 08:47 AM
On Jul 27, 12:52 pm, Morten Reippuert Knudsen<s...@reippuert.dk>
wrote:

> It's time to go for the throats of the rest of the podium, their
> connections to dr. Ferrari (Evans and Leipheimer) and Operation Pureto
> (Contador) shuld be just as efficient.

Ah. You've moved from denial to anger. Now there's only bargaining,
depression, and acceptance.

RonSonic
01-03-1970, 08:47 AM
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:52:11 +0200, Morten Reippuert Knudsen<spam@reippuert.dk>
wrote:

>Simon Brooke <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> >> Rasmussen is an unusual looking man, but he isn't that unusual; and
>> >> someone seen across the width of a road in pouring rain is easy to
>> >> misidentify. On the other hand if Cassani knows Rasmussen well and spoke
>> >> with him, that's a different story.
>> >
>> >> Does anyone know?
>> >
>> > Cassani knows Rasmussen from his friendship with Rolf Sørensen.
>> >
>> > Cassina syas he talked to Rasmussen and offered him food and warm
>> > clothes in the rainstorm.
>
>> H'mmm. If that's true, it sounds conclusive.
>
>It's time to go for the throats of the rest of the podium, their
>connections to dr. Ferrari (Evans and Leipheimer) and Operation Pureto
>(Contador) shuld be just as efficient.
>
>However i don't see that happening. The ASO leads the UCI 2:1
>(Rasmussen+Unibet:Astana), and they can play defensivly for the
>remaining days of the TDF.
>
>The press won a convinsingly knockout victory, they will be pleased
>with themselves for the remaining days.
>
>As for me im sad; the best rider didn't win and he's career is ruined,
>because of the war between ASO and UCI - for the first time in +20
>years it wasn't race between equals. Shame on them.

You forgot the screech-mob. They'll think they can pick the winners they like
from now on. I don't think ASO has them on a leash. We'll see.

Ron

Ryan Cousineau
01-03-1970, 08:47 AM
In article <1185535836.431846.210940@b79g2000hse.googlegroups. com>,
rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com wrote:

> On Jul 27, 12:52 pm, Morten Reippuert Knudsen<s...@reippuert.dk>
> wrote:
>
> > It's time to go for the throats of the rest of the podium, their
> > connections to dr. Ferrari (Evans and Leipheimer) and Operation Pureto
> > (Contador) shuld be just as efficient.
>
> Ah. You've moved from denial to anger. Now there's only bargaining,
> depression, and acceptance.

Kubler-Ross really missed out by not including "drinking."

It's helped me a lot,

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos