doping was still

[test]

> Anquetil won the Tour five times in the idyllic era that doping was still
> allowed.
>
> Benjo
>

Anquetil was like Armstrong, we will never know in fact. it doesn't matter
but since armstrong American team that went in Europe to compete have a very
very bad reputation, they seem all junkies and snob

[Tom Kunich]

"test" <test@fr.fr> wrote in message
news:46bedd3b$0$4963$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-05.noos.net...
>> Anquetil won the Tour five times in the idyllic era that doping was still
>> allowed.
>>
>> Benjo
>>
>
> Anquetil was like Armstrong, we will never know in fact. it doesn't matter
> but since armstrong American team that went in Europe to compete have a
> very very bad reputation, they seem all junkies and snob

Of course they have a bad reputation - they never tested positive unlike the
French teams.

[Steven L. Sheffield]

On 08/12/2007 04:13 AM, in article
46bedd3b$0$4963$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-05.noos.net, "test" <test@fr.fr>
wrote:

>> Anquetil won the Tour five times in the idyllic era that doping was still
>> allowed.
>>
>> Benjo
>>
>
> Anquetil was like Armstrong, we will never know in fact. it doesn't matter
> but since armstrong American team that went in Europe to compete have a very
> very bad reputation, they seem all junkies and snob

French teams ejected from Tour for doping

Festina 1998
Cofidis 2007

American teams ejected from Tour for doping

None





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[test]

"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> a écrit dans le message de news:
kHEvi.13709$rR.329@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.ne t...
> "test" <test@fr.fr> wrote in message
> news:46bedd3b$0$4963$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-05.noos.net...
>>> Anquetil won the Tour five times in the idyllic era that doping was
>>> still
>>> allowed.
>>>
>>> Benjo
>>>
>>
>> Anquetil was like Armstrong, we will never know in fact. it doesn't
>> matter but since armstrong American team that went in Europe to compete
>> have a very very bad reputation, they seem all junkies and snob
>
> Of course they have a bad reputation - they never tested positive unlike
> the French teams.
>

i don't care that much about test or something, I am young and just watch
every tour since 80's, only, I know other that have watch the tour since 50
or 60 ',. we are all knowed about one thing, we have never seen a guy
clibing pyrennes moutain bebofe like that. so we are very sceptical

"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> a écrit dans le message de news:
kHEvi.13709$rR.329@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.ne t...
> "test" <test@fr.fr> wrote in message
> news:46bedd3b$0$4963$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-05.noos.net...
>>> Anquetil won the Tour five times in the idyllic era that doping was
>>> still
>>> allowed.
>>>
>>> Benjo
>>>
>>
>> Anquetil was like Armstrong, we will never know in fact. it doesn't
>> matter but since armstrong American team that went in Europe to compete
>> have a very very bad reputation, they seem all junkies and snob
>
> Of course they have a bad reputation - they never tested positive
Both were.
Poulidor never, as I know.
It explain why, the french hated Anquetil so much, and Poupou was so popular
:
"Toute sa carrière sera marquée par cette apparence de mépris et de dédain,
source d'un malentendu effroyable qui a prononcé le divorce entre le public
et lui, un public qui le siffle à l'arrivée du Tour 1961. Mais Anquetil
encaisse en silence, et reçoit les coups où la pudeur, la modestie et la
timidité prennent toute la place, là où il n'y a aucune trace de dédain"



unlike the
> French teams.
>

[Tom Kunich]

"test" <test@fr.fr> wrote in message
news:46bf22a1$0$5204$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-05.noos.net...
>
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> a écrit dans le message de news:
>>
>> Of course they have a bad reputation - they never tested positive unlike
>> the French teams.
>
> i don't care that much about test or something, I am young and just watch
> every tour since 80's, only, I know other that have watch the tour since
> 50 or 60 ',. we are all knowed about one thing, we have never seen a guy
> clibing pyrennes moutain bebofe like that. so we are very sceptical

Say, aren't you one of those guys who murdered anyone that looked like
royalty - that is - anyone that took a bath?

[Smokey]

On Aug 12, 10:09 am, "test" <t...@fr.fr> wrote:
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> kHEvi.13709$rR....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.ne t...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "test" <t...@fr.fr> wrote in message
> >news:46bedd3b$0$4963$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-05.noos.net...
> >>> Anquetil won the Tour five times in the idyllic era that doping was
> >>> still
> >>> allowed.
>
> >>> Benjo
>
> >> Anquetil was like Armstrong, we will never know in fact. it doesn't
> >> matter but since armstrong American team that went in Europe to compete
> >> have a very very bad reputation, they seem all junkies and snob
>
> > Of course they have a bad reputation - they never tested positive unlike
> > the French teams.
>
> i don't care that much about test or something, I am young and just watch
> every tour since 80's, only, I know other that have watch the tour since 50
> or 60 ',. we are all knowed about one thing, we have never seen a guy
> clibing pyrennes moutain bebofe like that. so we are very sceptical- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

How many of your French riders put in 6+hours of hard riding from
November till the racing season and ride all the TdF climbs mulitiple
times, no matter what the weather? That was one of Armstrong's
methods. I read an interview with Bernard Hinault a while back and he
said the French riders weren't winning the Tour because they simply
didn't train hard enough.

Smokey

[test]

<Montesquiou> a écrit dans le message de news:
46bf293e$0$27399$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr...
>
Anquetil have never been appreciated, he looked a little like armstrong for
his elegant and cold manner, but his life was too short, I remember the last
summer he was speaker on TV for the tour, he just said one day that he had
to go for the hospital and we never saw him after.

[pierre]

<Montesquiou> a écrit dans le message de news:
46bf293e$0$27399$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr...
>
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> kHEvi.13709$rR.329@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.ne t...
>> "test" <test@fr.fr> wrote in message
>> news:46bedd3b$0$4963$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-05.noos.net...
>>>> Anquetil won the Tour five times in the idyllic era that doping was
>>>> still
>>>> allowed.
>>>>
>>>> Benjo
>>>>
>>>
>>> Anquetil was like Armstrong, we will never know in fact. it doesn't
>>> matter but since armstrong American team that went in Europe to compete
>>> have a very very bad reputation, they seem all junkies and snob
>>
>> Of course they have a bad reputation - they never tested positive
> Both were.
> Poulidor never, as I know.
> It explain why, the french hated Anquetil so much, and Poupou was so
> popular :
> "Toute sa carrière sera marquée par cette apparence de mépris et de
> dédain, source d'un malentendu effroyable qui a prononcé le divorce entre
> le public et lui, un public qui le siffle à l'arrivée du Tour 1961. Mais
> Anquetil encaisse en silence, et reçoit les coups où la pudeur, la
> modestie et la timidité prennent toute la place, là où il n'y a aucune
> trace de dédain"
>
>
>
> unlike the
>> French teams.
>>
>
>

really?i dont know i thing it's just differet; in euorpe we prefered geg
lemon while on tthe ouher seain usa, they pefer armtong. perhaps because
whey are as snob like kim about european?

[Donald Munro]

Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
> French teams ejected from Tour for doping
> Cofidis 2007

As far as I know they 'ejected' themselves.

[Morten Reippuert Knudsen]

Smokey <smokeystrodtman@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 12, 10:09 am, "test" <t...@fr.fr> wrote:
> > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> a ?crit dans le message de news:
> > kHEvi.13709$rR....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.ne t...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "test" <t...@fr.fr> wrote in message
> > >news:46bedd3b$0$4963$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-05.noos.net...
> > >>> Anquetil won the Tour five times in the idyllic era that doping was
> > >>> still
> > >>> allowed.
> >
> > >>> Benjo
> >
> > >> Anquetil was like Armstrong, we will never know in fact. it doesn't
> > >> matter but since armstrong American team that went in Europe to compete
> > >> have a very very bad reputation, they seem all junkies and snob
> >
> > > Of course they have a bad reputation - they never tested positive unlike
> > > the French teams.
> >
> > i don't care that much about test or something, I am young and just watch
> > every tour since 80's, only, I know other that have watch the tour since 50
> > or 60 ',. we are all knowed about one thing, we have never seen a guy
> > clibing pyrennes moutain bebofe like that. so we are very sceptical- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -

> How many of your French riders put in 6+hours of hard riding from
> November till the racing season and ride all the TdF climbs mulitiple
> times, no matter what the weather? That was one of Armstrong's
> methods. I read an interview with Bernard Hinault a while back and he
> said the French riders weren't winning the Tour because they simply
> didn't train hard enough.

Hilnault's diffinition of "hard enough" may include illigal substances.

--
Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk>

Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.

[Steven L. Sheffield]

On 08/13/2007 03:40 AM, in article
46c02745$0$21884$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com, "Donald Munro"
<fat-dumbass@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
>> French teams ejected from Tour for doping
>> Cofidis 2007
>
> As far as I know they 'ejected' themselves.
>



http://www.velonews.com/tour2007/news/articles/12930.0.html

Cofidis officials, announced they will forgo their right to ask for analysis
of a 'B' sample, also accepted the Tour's "invitation" to withdraw from the
race, becoming the second team in 24 hours to exit France's national tour.



--
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stevens at veloworks dot com
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ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
double-yew double-ewe dot flahute dot com [foreword] slash

[Donald Munro]

Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
>>> French teams ejected from Tour for doping
>>> Cofidis 2007

Donald Munro wrote:
>> As far as I know they 'ejected' themselves.

Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
> http://www.velonews.com/tour2007/news/articles/12930.0.html
> Cofidis officials, announced they will forgo their right to ask for
> analysis of a 'B' sample, also accepted the Tour's "invitation" to
> withdraw from the race, becoming the second team in 24 hours to exit
> France's national tour.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/news/?id=/news/2007/jul07/jul26news2

A few moments later, the Cofidis team announced that the entire team would
withdraw from the Tour de France upon request of their main sponsor as an
ASO-spokesman confirmed to Cyclingnews.

[pierre]

the Cofidis guy that put all this team out was'nt french att all, he is
italian.

"Donald Munro" <fat-dumbass@nomail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
46c0583c$0$21876$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com.. .