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Andre
12-31-1969, 08:00 PM
Could this be the next Belgian to win the Tour?

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cyclintom@gmail.com
01-03-1970, 12:15 PM
On Aug 25, 4:03 pm, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Could this be the next Belgian to win the Tour?
>
> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cyclingnews.com/pho...

How many Belgians have one the Tour recently?

Andre
01-03-1970, 12:21 PM
On Aug 27, 10:47 am, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 25, 4:03 pm, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> > Could this be the next Belgian to win the Tour?
>
> >http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cyclingnews.com/pho...
>
> How many Belgians have one the Tour recently?

Lucien Van Impe was the last one.

cyclintom@gmail.com
01-03-1970, 12:23 PM
On Aug 27, 11:19 am, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> On Aug 27, 10:47 am, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Aug 25, 4:03 pm, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> > > Could this be the next Belgian to win the Tour?
>
> > >http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cyclingnews.com/pho...
>
> > How many Belgians have one the Tour recently?
>
> Lucien Van Impe was the last one.

(Have "one" the Tour? Wow that was really dumb.)

Van Impe was a climber and not many climbers win the Tour. It takes a
combination of course and conditions.

Eddy was a murderer and could have beaten anyone on a bicycle. But he
is once is ten generations. Belgium is a tiny country and hence will
only find a Tour winner once a century if statistics are anything to
judge.

Andre
01-03-1970, 12:23 PM
On Aug 27, 4:41 pm, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 27, 11:19 am, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 27, 10:47 am, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 25, 4:03 pm, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> > > > Could this be the next Belgian to win the Tour?
>
> > > >http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cyclingnews.com/pho...
>
> > > How many Belgians have one the Tour recently?
>
> > Lucien Van Impe was the last one.
>
> (Have "one" the Tour? Wow that was really dumb.)
>
> Van Impe was a climber and not many climbers win the Tour. It takes a
> combination of course and conditions.
>
> Eddy was a murderer and could have beaten anyone on a bicycle. But he
> is once is ten generations. Belgium is a tiny country and hence will
> only find a Tour winner once a century if statistics are anything to
> judge.

I estimated about 14 names and about 20 tdf victories:

1903 - Maurice Garin (Fra) *

1904 - Henri Cornet (Fra)

1905 - Louis Trousselier (Fra)

1906 - René Pottier (Fra)

1907 - Lucien 'Petit Breton' Mazan (Fra)

1908 - Lucien 'Petit Breton' Mazan (Fra)

1909 - François Faber (Lux)

1910 - Octave Lapize (Fra)

1911 - Gustave Garrigou (Fra)

1912 - Odile Defraye (Bel)

1913 - Philippe Thys (Bel)

1914 - Philippe Thys (Bel) *



1915-1918 no Tour de France (WW I)



1919 - Firmin Lambot (Bel)

1920 - Philippe Thys (Bel)

1921 - Léon Scieur (Bel)

1922 - Firmin Lambot (Bel) **

1923 - Henri Pélissier (Fra)

1924 - Ottavio Bottecchia (Ita) *

1925 - Ottavio Bottecchia (Ita)

1926 - Lucien Buysse (Bel)

1927 - Nicolas Frantz (Lux)

1928 - Nicolas Frantz (Lux) *

1929 - Maurice De Waele (Bel)

1930 - André Leducq (Fra)

1931 - Antonin Magne (Fra)

1932 - André Leducq (Fra)

1933 - Georges Speicher (Fra)

1934 - Antonin Magne (Fra)

1935 - Romain Maes (Bel) *

1936 - Sylvère Maes (Bel)

1937 - Roger Lapebie (Fra)

1938 - Gino Bartali (Ita)

1939 - Sylvère Maes (Bel)



1940-1946 no official Tours (WW II)



Unofficial Tours:

1942 "Circuit de France" - François Neuville (Bel)

1943 "GP du Tour de France" - Jo Goutorbe (Fra)

1944 "GP du Tour de France"

- Maurice De Simpelaere (Bel)

1946 "Ronde de France" - Giulio Breschi (Ita) &

"La Course du Tour de France" - Apo Lazarides (Fra)



1947 - Jean Robic (Fra)

1948 - Gino Bartali (Ita)

1949 - Fausto Coppi (Ita)

1950 - Ferdi Kübler (Sui)

1951 - Hugo Koblet (Sui)

1952 - Fausto Coppi (Ita)

1953 - Louison Bobet (Fra)

1954 - Louison Bobet (Fra)

1955 - Louison Bobet (Fra)

1956 - Roger Walkowiak (Fra) **

1957 - Jacques Anquetil (Fra)

1958 - Charly Gaul (Lux)

1959 - Federico Bahamontès (Esp)

1960 - Gastone Nencini (Ita) **

1961 - Jacques Anquetil (Fra)

1962 - Jacques Anquetil (Fra)

1963 - Jacques Anquetil (Fra)

1964 - Jacques Anquetil (Fra)

1965 - Felice Gimondi (Ita)

1966 - Lucien Aimar (Fra) **

1967 - Roger Pingeon (Fra)

1968 - Jan Janssen (Ned)

1969 - Eddy Merckx (Bel)

1970 - Eddy Merckx (Bel)

1971 - Eddy Merckx (Bel)

1972 - Eddy Merckx (Bel)

1973 - Luis Ocaña (Esp)

1974 - Eddy Merckx (Bel)

1975 - Bernard Thévenet (Fra)

1976 - Lucien Van Impe (Bel)

Tom Kunich
01-03-1970, 12:24 PM
"Andre" <ANDREJANSSENS1@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
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> I estimated about 14 names and about 20 tdf victories:

Yes indeed but remember that you were only racing against those sissy French
then. Now you're racing against the rest of the world.

Andre
01-03-1970, 12:25 PM
On Aug 27, 9:23 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Andre" <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
>
> news:1188251064.720893.150820@19g2000hsx.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > I estimated about 14 names and about 20 tdf victories:
>
> Yes indeed but remember that you were only racing against those sissy French
> then. Now you're racing against the rest of the world.

true, true...except the French did have some some monster riders back
then.

Tom Kunich
01-03-1970, 12:25 PM
"Andre" <ANDREJANSSENS1@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
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> On Aug 27, 9:23 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> "Andre" <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1188251064.720893.150820@19g2000hsx.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> > I estimated about 14 names and about 20 tdf victories:
>>
>> Yes indeed but remember that you were only racing against those sissy
>> French
>> then. Now you're racing against the rest of the world.
>
> true, true...except the French did have some some monster riders back
> then.

That was before the Liberal government.