Mondial - Dames - Women

[Davey Crockett]

I'm hopefully going to have the last lap available for both http and
ftp pretty soon

I'll give the locations as soon as I can test them out

BUT they will be very large downloads...............

And the commentary is in Italian - but not really needed if you also
get a text commentary to go with it

Hopefully it will work but it's more of an experiment really as I'm
actually sitting in Spain running my TV and Box by remote control and
may not be able to fix any Borks

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[Ewoud Dronkert]

Davey Crockett schreef:
> I'm hopefully going to have the last lap available for both http and
> ftp pretty soon

There will be a post of the last 4 laps in
alt.binaries.multimedia.sports this afternoon, I feel it! Probably with
Dutch commentary, though, and only 352x216 size (PAL, cropped).

Great race by the Italians.


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E. Dronkert

[ilanpsi@gmail.com]

On Sep 29, 1:06 pm, Davey Crockett <r...@azurservers.com> wrote:
> I'm hopefully going to have the last lap available for both http and
> ftp pretty soon
>
> I'll give the locations as soon as I can test them out
>
> BUT they will be very large downloads...............
>
> And the commentary is in Italian - but not really needed if you also
> get a text commentary to go with it
>
> Hopefully it will work but it's more of an experiment really as I'm
> actually sitting in Spain running my TV and Box by remote control and
> may not be able to fix any Borks
>
> --
> Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
> -
> Avoid the Gates of Hell. Use Linux

I just watched it live in France using Cycling.TV. It worked well, I
have the UCI Live subscription, which worked well for once. I think
Bronzini would rather have been called Goldini.

-ilan

[Davey Crockett]

* Davey Crockett <rec@azurservers.com> a écrit profondement:
|
| I'm hopefully going to have the last lap available for both http and
| ftp pretty soon
|
| I'll give the locations as soon as I can test them out
|
| BUT they will be very large downloads...............
|
| And the commentary is in Italian - but not really needed if you also
| get a text commentary to go with it
|
| Hopefully it will work but it's more of an experiment really as I'm
| actually sitting in Spain running my TV and Box by remote control and
| may not be able to fix any Borks


PLEASE READ FULLY BEFORE LOGGIN ONTO MY BOX
===========================================

OK, following up

Perhaps your best bet would be to follow Ewoud's link this pm - like
it's 1400 hrs. here now

But for the bold, you can get it in TS format from my computer at

http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts


The full file is there and it is also split into 18 smaller files

http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.001 thru
http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.018

And you will have to join the files. "cat" works fine Unix/Linux but I
don't know about Windows or Mac

The Unix/Linux crowd will know what to use to play it, but I don't have
any idea what is needed on Windows or Mac - VLC I believe has versions
tha work on DOS and OS/X

Just make sure you can play it before wasting time downloading it

I left the directory "open" so you can see all the files

On ftp it's
Host: azurservers.com
Port: 6021
for anonymous access (User: anonymous ;; Password: a@b.c or similar
****)

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[Davey Crockett]

* ilanpsi@gmail.com a écrit profondement:
|
|
| I just watched it live in France using Cycling.TV. It worked well, I
| have the UCI Live subscription, which worked well for once. I think
| Bronzini would rather have been called Goldini.
|

RAI3 is what I used; it didn't seem to be available on the FR/2/3
channels and I only have the basic channels that come with my net
connection - no Eurosport etc as they are pretty expensive given that
I only turn the TV on when there's bike racing being broadcast

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[Ewoud Dronkert]

Davey Crockett schreef:
> And you will have to join the files. "cat" works fine Unix/Linux but I
> don't know about Windows or Mac

http://www.freebyte.com/hjsplit/ is an option.

> The Unix/Linux crowd will know what to use to play it, but I don't have
> any idea what is needed on Windows or Mac - VLC I believe has versions
> tha work on DOS and OS/X

Yep, http://www.videolan.org/vlc/


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E. Dronkert

[GoneBeforeMyTime]

"Davey Crockett" <rec@azurservers.com> wrote in message
news:87ir5tznln.fsf@azurservers.com...
> * Davey Crockett <rec@azurservers.com> a écrit profondement:
> |
> | I'm hopefully going to have the last lap available for both http and
> | ftp pretty soon
> |
> | I'll give the locations as soon as I can test them out
> |
> | BUT they will be very large downloads...............
> |
> | And the commentary is in Italian - but not really needed if you also
> | get a text commentary to go with it
> |
> | Hopefully it will work but it's more of an experiment really as I'm
> | actually sitting in Spain running my TV and Box by remote control and
> | may not be able to fix any Borks
>
>
> PLEASE READ FULLY BEFORE LOGGIN ONTO MY BOX
> ===========================================
>
> OK, following up
>
> Perhaps your best bet would be to follow Ewoud's link this pm - like
> it's 1400 hrs. here now
>
> But for the bold, you can get it in TS format from my computer at
>
> http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts

Thanks Davey, I am running a Linux box next to my Windows box, and if it's
still available later tonight, I'll give it a try. Also the race is streamed
in English today on WCSN, and the streaming window can be zoomed to a full
scream, but I would like to see what you got.

thanks,
GBMT

[Davey Crockett]

* "GoneBeforeMyTime" <Fans@EuroForums.com> a écrit profondement:
|
|
| Thanks Davey, I am running a Linux box next to my Windows box, and if it's
| still available later tonight, I'll give it a try. Also the race is streamed
| in English today on WCSN, and the streaming window can be zoomed to a full
| scream, but I would like to see what you got.
|

Well talking about streaming, I noticed something very strange

If you go http://azurservers.com/ciclismo and take a look at the
directory, you will see that after splitting the original file into
parts, http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.008 and
http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.012 will stream and are
marked as such in the directory listing.

In other words they will play directly. At least with my portable
running Opera browser with Xine for a helper app they do

It thrashes around for a while digesting to 50 megs and then plays,
not half as well as downloading and launching it with VLC though

This is very strange behaviour for a chunk of a split master file and
I don't know the reason for it since I split the big file with just a
standard *nix "split -b 50000000" and used "mvb" to rename the bits

So there's no chance that I handled those two chunks differently and
in any instance they are just split at an arbitrary point in the file
( 7 * 50000000 + 1 Bytes and 11 * 50000000 + 1 Bytes as start points
for the two chunks respectively )

Notably the original file does not stream but must be downloaded and
launched manually

Do you have any thoughts on this?.

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[GoneBeforeMyTime]

"Davey Crockett" <rec@azurservers.com> wrote in message
news:871wchzap1.fsf@azurservers.com...
> * "GoneBeforeMyTime" <Fans@EuroForums.com> a écrit profondement:
> |
> |
> | Thanks Davey, I am running a Linux box next to my Windows box, and if
it's
> | still available later tonight, I'll give it a try. Also the race is
streamed
> | in English today on WCSN, and the streaming window can be zoomed to a
full
> | scream, but I would like to see what you got.
> |
>
> Well talking about streaming, I noticed something very strange
>
> If you go http://azurservers.com/ciclismo and take a look at the
> directory, you will see that after splitting the original file into
> parts, http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.008 and
> http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.012 will stream and are
> marked as such in the directory listing.
>
> In other words they will play directly. At least with my portable
> running Opera browser with Xine for a helper app they do
>
> It thrashes around for a while digesting to 50 megs and then plays,
> not half as well as downloading and launching it with VLC though
>
> This is very strange behaviour for a chunk of a split master file and
> I don't know the reason for it since I split the big file with just a
> standard *nix "split -b 50000000" and used "mvb" to rename the bits
>
> So there's no chance that I handled those two chunks differently and
> in any instance they are just split at an arbitrary point in the file
> ( 7 * 50000000 + 1 Bytes and 11 * 50000000 + 1 Bytes as start points
> for the two chunks respectively )
>
> Notably the original file does not stream but must be downloaded and
> launched manually
>
> Do you have any thoughts on this?.

No I wouldn't. Mpeg files still play if split, they usually don't corrupt by
splitting like some files do, haven't tried any streaming tests from a Linux
box. For ascii, txt or binary images, I just use file splitting software to
split and resemble. Images often will show part of an image sometimes when
its not asslembled correctly, but I haven't tested a huge variety of
behaviors of various extensions.

Xine made me flash on Wine! It's been a very long time before I looked into
Wine. I wonder if it's gotten much better! I think progress was slower then
molasses! I don't have much time today to fool around, but I will try to
snag that huge ts file tonight and give it a go.

GBMT

[GoneBeforeMyTime]

"Davey Crockett" <rec@azurservers.com> wrote in message
news:871wchzap1.fsf@azurservers.com...
> * "GoneBeforeMyTime" <Fans@EuroForums.com> a écrit profondement:
> |
> |
> | Thanks Davey, I am running a Linux box next to my Windows box, and if
it's
> | still available later tonight, I'll give it a try. Also the race is
streamed
> | in English today on WCSN, and the streaming window can be zoomed to a
full
> | scream, but I would like to see what you got.
> |
>
> Well talking about streaming, I noticed something very strange
>
> If you go http://azurservers.com/ciclismo and take a look at the
> directory, you will see that after splitting the original file into
> parts, http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.008 and
> http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.012 will stream and are
> marked as such in the directory listing.
>
> In other words they will play directly. At least with my portable
> running Opera browser with Xine for a helper app they do
>
> It thrashes around for a while digesting to 50 megs and then plays,
> not half as well as downloading and launching it with VLC though
>
> This is very strange behaviour for a chunk of a split master file and
> I don't know the reason for it since I split the big file with just a
> standard *nix "split -b 50000000" and used "mvb" to rename the bits
>
> So there's no chance that I handled those two chunks differently and
> in any instance they are just split at an arbitrary point in the file
> ( 7 * 50000000 + 1 Bytes and 11 * 50000000 + 1 Bytes as start points
> for the two chunks respectively )
>
> Notably the original file does not stream but must be downloaded and
> launched manually
>
> Do you have any thoughts on this?.

That clip was better then the last hour I saw on WCSN. Good coverage by
RAI-3, but they always do a good job. I have a lot of tapes of the classics
and tours from the mid 90's. They are always more animated, and i like the
way they call off the riders at the front, and update the breaks. They have
always been good at that, but Italian cameramen are really good in the field
as well, it's an art with them.

GBMT

[MJ Ray]

"GoneBeforeMyTime" <Fans@EuroForums.com> wrote:
> That clip was better then the last hour I saw on WCSN. Good coverage by
> RAI-3, but they always do a good job. [...]

RAI-3 seemed to cut away before the end of the Men's ITT - actually not
sure whether they broadcast any of it.

BBCi is doing well, covering the entire race with original
audio channel available on satellite. The two ex-pro
commentators (Porter and Yates) are OK, but not quite up to the
Liggett/Sherwen/Imlach/Boardman/Rendell/Boulting itv TdF team.

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[Dan Gregory]

MJ Ray wrote:

> BBCi is doing well, covering the entire race with original
> audio channel available on satellite. The two ex-pro
> commentators (Porter and Yates) are OK, but not quite up to the
> Liggett/Sherwen/Imlach/Boardman/Rendell/Boulting itv TdF team.

I thought the BBC coverage was good, but they didn't show the U23s which
I watched on cycling.tv.
I was rather surprised that Sean recognised so few of the faces in the
Elite race though, I thought he would have known them all from his time
in the team car.

[GoneBeforeMyTime]

"Dan Gregory" <dangregory@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:5mc63tFcmqksU1@mid.individual.net...

> I was rather surprised that Sean recognised so few of the faces in the
> Elite race though,

That's the problem I have with WCSN commentators in the women's race. Unlike
RAI-3 which I have a lot of races in the past, WCSN can't seem to recognize
the faces. Duffy at UK Eurosports had the same problem, having to look up
numbers after a long pause to get the names right. However Russell Williams
was excellent, he knew the riders. In the women's race, Worrack, Cantele,
Pooley were always pulling at the front, but you never heard a word about
them, especially Pooley, a big puller in that race. They mentioned Cantele,
but they missed the first two breaks, it seems like they went silent for two
minutes, well they did. When Eneritz Iturriaga broke away, they ignored it
for at least a minute. At the end when Willock broke away, finally they
covered that as well as Marta, but the coverage was lackluster. They didn't
seem to know the riders, and it seems all they did was rehash a story about
Neben misfortune as a child, and some stuff about Armstrong. They didn't
mention much about why Cooke was missing from the worlds, and often when I
saw a number of riders at the front working the lead, they couldn't tell us
who they were. There were a lot of good riders at the front at different
times during the race, but it seems they ignored just about everyone up
there, I think mostly because they just didn't know these girls by sight,
and couldn't see the numbers in time, or didn't care enough to call the
action at the front.



That's the different between RAI-3, and Eurosports, WCSN. I didn't see
Eurosports women's race this year, and I heard Duffy was canned, probably
since he spent 30 minutes during the women's world road race one time
talking about men's racing. That's enough to piss a preacher off, when there
are breaks going on and the commentators are insulting enough to not cover
the action and talk about things totally unrelated to the race. It's the
friggin world championships for crying out loud, and they should be wearing
the action on their sleeves. That's what RAI-3 have done in at least ten
years of videos I have of women's racing. They always call the action at the
front, they constantly update who the riders are at the front, and they
really cover the breaks well. They seem to be fully focused on the race, and
they get pretty loud and excited. And for good reason. Italian fans are
rabid and need good commentators who know the riders well, and can call the
action and cover the breaks. However the Italian cameramen are also artists
when to comes to covering stage races too. They are excellent in the
mountains. I understand enough of what is being said to figure things out
for myself, so all I need is a good commentator who can call the racers by
name, who's in front, and cover the breaks. I can't ever remember a women's
race called in English which was superb. English speaking commentators never
seem to know the Euro women that well, but Phil and Paul aren't bad at
times, and Bobske really surprises me at times. He seems well informed, even
on the women side. He did Nature Valley, and that was decent enough.



GBMT