Re: question about tubulars

[jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org]

Diablo Scott writes:

>>>>> I'm new to tubulars and have a question about carrying a spare-is it
>>>>> necessary to preglue the spare, and if so, how is it best to carry it?

>>>> Yes and just fold it up. I am sure there is a diagram somewhere..hold
>>>> end of tubies, turn each side 90 degrees and fold..hard to describe,
>>>> easy if you see it..then secure with as toe strap under your saddle.

>>> Wow, I've been waiting for months for someone to ask - my photo sequence
>>> of my preferred spare tubie folding technique:

http://picasaweb.google.com/DiabloScottsBikeBlog/FoldingATubularTire

>> Nice set of pix..thanks!!

> You're welcome, I just added one more you'll like:

http://picasaweb.google.com/DiabloScottsBikeBlog/FoldingATubularTire/photo#5125693388001368754

Don't do that unless you get so many flats that the tire doesn't
reside there for long. As I said, four-fold the tire and then tightly
wrap it in a stiff brown paper bag and secure it under the saddle with
a toe strap. I saw enough sidewall blowouts from wear when spare
tires were casually carried as shown. It might look keen but it
doesn't work well.

Oh, and by the way, that clement tire you have in that picture was a
TT tire without carbon (it is red) and was discovered the hard way in
the days of yore to have terrible wet traction. It doesn't look like
it has much use judging from the, like new, ribbed tread.

Jobst Brandt

[Diablo Scott]

jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
> Diablo Scott writes:
>
>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/DiabloScottsBikeBlog/FoldingATubularTire/photo#5125693388001368754
>
> Don't do that unless you get so many flats that the tire doesn't
> reside there for long. As I said, four-fold the tire and then tightly
> wrap it in a stiff brown paper bag and secure it under the saddle with
> a toe strap. I saw enough sidewall blowouts from wear when spare
> tires were casually carried as shown. It might look keen but it
> doesn't work well.
>
> Oh, and by the way, that clement tire you have in that picture was a
> TT tire without carbon (it is red) and was discovered the hard way in
> the days of yore to have terrible wet traction. It doesn't look like
> it has much use judging from the, like new, ribbed tread.
>
> Jobst Brandt


The orange tire is a Michelin Club; I'm not sure how long ago "days of
yore" was, but I don't think that Mich Club is that old. It had maybe
500 miles on it before I got a gash in the other one of the pair and
this one has been serving as a spare ever since - used twice in about 6
years.

It still has good tread, having been used on the front originally.

No evidence of chafing, it being tied to the saddle with cotton cord.

[A Muzi]

>> Diablo Scott writes:
>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/DiabloScottsBikeBlog/FoldingATubularTire/photo#5125693388001368754

> jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
>> Don't do that unless you get so many flats that the tire doesn't
>> reside there for long. As I said, four-fold the tire and then tightly
>> wrap it in a stiff brown paper bag and secure it under the saddle with
>> a toe strap. I saw enough sidewall blowouts from wear when spare
>> tires were casually carried as shown. It might look keen but it
>> doesn't work well.
>> Oh, and by the way, that clement tire you have in that picture was a
>> TT tire without carbon (it is red) and was discovered the hard way in
>> the days of yore to have terrible wet traction. It doesn't look like
>> it has much use judging from the, like new, ribbed tread.

Diablo Scott wrote:
> The orange tire is a Michelin Club; I'm not sure how long ago "days of
> yore" was, but I don't think that Mich Club is that old. It had maybe
> 500 miles on it before I got a gash in the other one of the pair and
> this one has been serving as a spare ever since - used twice in about 6
> years.
> It still has good tread, having been used on the front originally.
> No evidence of chafing, it being tied to the saddle with cotton cord.

I, like Jobst, thought it was the time trial version of the Clement
Criterium Seta, a.k.a. 'redhead'. Rumored to be 'faster' than the black
tire, they wore quickly and slid on wet pavement.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

[jim beam]

Diablo Scott wrote:
> jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
>> Diablo Scott writes:
>>
>>
>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/DiabloScottsBikeBlog/FoldingATubularTire/photo#5125693388001368754
>>>
>>
>> Don't do that unless you get so many flats that the tire doesn't
>> reside there for long. As I said, four-fold the tire and then tightly
>> wrap it in a stiff brown paper bag and secure it under the saddle with
>> a toe strap. I saw enough sidewall blowouts from wear when spare
>> tires were casually carried as shown. It might look keen but it
>> doesn't work well.
>>
>> Oh, and by the way, that clement tire you have in that picture was a
>> TT tire without carbon (it is red) and was discovered the hard way in
>> the days of yore to have terrible wet traction. It doesn't look like
>> it has much use judging from the, like new, ribbed tread.
>>
>> Jobst Brandt
>
>
> The orange tire is a Michelin Club; I'm not sure how long ago "days of
> yore" was, but I don't think that Mich Club is that old. It had maybe
> 500 miles on it before I got a gash in the other one of the pair and
> this one has been serving as a spare ever since - used twice in about 6
> years.
>
> It still has good tread, having been used on the front originally.
>
> No evidence of chafing, it being tied to the saddle with cotton cord.
>

what seat is that?

[Diablo Scott]

jim beam wrote:
> Diablo Scott wrote:

>>
>> The orange tire is a Michelin Club; I'm not sure how long ago "days of
>> yore" was, but I don't think that Mich Club is that old. It had maybe
>> 500 miles on it before I got a gash in the other one of the pair and
>> this one has been serving as a spare ever since - used twice in about
>> 6 years.
>>
>> It still has good tread, having been used on the front originally.
>>
>> No evidence of chafing, it being tied to the saddle with cotton cord.
>>
>
> what seat is that?

Rolls Titanio. Hard to read the badge, it being ridden hard and put
away wet.