T-Mobile hangs up

[Dave]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/nov07/nov28news

/d

[amit.ghosh@gmail.com]

On Nov 27, 11:19 am, Dave <d...@theuninvitedcritic.com> wrote:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/nov07/nov28news
>
> /d

dumbass,

team high road will be bankrolled by stapleton and slipstream is
funded by a wall streeter. at least michael ball and oleg tinkov are
getting some marketing value out of their involvement.

as i predicted pro-cycling is officially a plaything for rich dudes,
like race horses and art galleries.

[rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com]

On Nov 27, 8:19 am, Dave <d...@theuninvitedcritic.com> wrote:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/nov07/nov28news

Lesson for cycling: doping is a serious problem.

Lesson for other sports: catching dopers causes serious problems.

[Tom Kunich]

On Nov 27, 8:19 am, Dave <d...@theuninvitedcritic.com> wrote:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/nov07/nov28news

With any luck at all, UCI, WADA and ASO will turn cycling into another
Roller Derby.

[GoneBeforeMyTime]

"Dave" <dave@theuninvitedcritic.com> wrote in message
news:fihg4c02nrr@news3.newsguy.com...
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/nov07/nov28news

CN
However, High Road Sports Inc., the team management company, said that "its
elite men's and women's cycling teams will continue racing in 2008 after
T-Mobile has ended its engagement. The teams will now be known as 'Team High
Road'."

High roads...
http://www.highroadsports.com/news.php?article=7

GBMT

[Davey Crockett]

"amit.ghosh@gmail.com" a écrit profondement:

| On Nov 27, 11:19 am, Dave <d...@theuninvitedcritic.com> wrote:
| > http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/nov07/nov28news
| >
| > /d
|
| dumbass,
|
| team high road will be bankrolled by stapleton and slipstream is
| funded by a wall streeter. at least michael ball and oleg tinkov are
| getting some marketing value out of their involvement.
|
| as i predicted pro-cycling is officially a plaything for rich dudes,
| like race horses and art galleries.

Any predictions about Astana?

--
Davey Crockett
-
Driving a Stake through the
Heart of the Politically Correct

[Donald Munro]

amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
> team high road will be bankrolled by stapleton and slipstream is funded by
> a wall streeter. at least michael ball and oleg tinkov are getting some
> marketing value out of their involvement.

So if Putin wants Tinkov's riders does he invite him over
for some tasty KGB tea ?

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

> Any predictions about Astana?

Such as??? If you're looking for the team to dissolve, I don't think that's
too likely. Everything seems *go* right now, with the only remaining issues
being a bike sponsor and paying off the 2007 salaries. Bruyneel seems to be
doing the right things to make the UCI happy, and as long as there are no
revelations about Contador, the ASO should be happy as well.

The only people who would seem likely not to be terribly happy would be the
namesake sponsors of the team, since it doesn't really represent Kazakh
cycling any more, does it? But so far, I haven't read anything saying that's
been a problem. Looks like they're more interested in winning than promoting
their homeland these days.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


"Davey Crockett" <rec@azurservers.com> wrote in message
news:87prxv360j.fsf@azurservers.com...
> "amit.ghosh@gmail.com" a écrit profondement:
>
> | On Nov 27, 11:19 am, Dave <d...@theuninvitedcritic.com> wrote:
> | > http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/nov07/nov28news
> | >
> | > /d
> |
> | dumbass,
> |
> | team high road will be bankrolled by stapleton and slipstream is
> | funded by a wall streeter. at least michael ball and oleg tinkov are
> | getting some marketing value out of their involvement.
> |
> | as i predicted pro-cycling is officially a plaything for rich dudes,
> | like race horses and art galleries.
>
> Any predictions about Astana?
>
> --
> Davey Crockett
> -
> Driving a Stake through the
> Heart of the Politically Correct

[Ted van de Weteringe]

Davey Crockett schreef:
> Any predictions about Astana?

At least, if Bruyneel is seriously committed to the team, they won't
have any positive dope tests.

[Donald Munro]

Davey Crockett wrote:
> Any predictions about Astana?

Renamed as Team Low Road ?

[amit.ghosh@gmail.com]

On Nov 27, 4:34 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:


> the only remaining issues
> being a bike sponsor and paying off the 2007 salaries.

dumbass,

that could kill it. after the debacles with the 2007 team the sponsor
has buyer's remorse )(a common malady with cycling sponsors) and
doesn't want to fulfill the contract.

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

> With any luck at all, UCI, WADA and ASO will turn cycling into another
> Roller Derby.

Think Rollerball on bikes.

That would certainly bring out the fans.

And if the athletes don't test positive for drugs, they're not allowed to
compete.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fcf3dfed-3e12-4cef-ab4a-74b4b8879f9b@t47g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 27, 8:19 am, Dave <d...@theuninvitedcritic.com> wrote:
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/nov07/nov28news
>
> With any luck at all, UCI, WADA and ASO will turn cycling into another
> Roller Derby.

[amit.ghosh@gmail.com]

On Nov 27, 6:30 pm, Tom Kunich <cyclin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 27, 8:19 am, Dave <d...@theuninvitedcritic.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/nov07/nov28news
>
> With any luck at all, UCI, WADA and ASO will turn cycling into another
> Roller Derby.

dumbass,

sinkewitz tested positive in an out of competition test and confessed
immmediately, but the rest of these incidents :

-ullrich and sevilla's implication in puerto and ullrichs subsequent
prosecution -the confessions from riis, zabel and the other 90s
telekom all stars
-sinkewitz's extensive revelations about his doping history

had nothing to do with WADA, UCI and the ASO.

you should blame jef d'hont and the guardia civil, but not the gov.
bodies, unless you are holding them responsible for the passive
attitude of the 90s.

[mtb Dad]

On Nov 27, 4:38 pm, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>but not the gov. bodies, unless you are holding them responsible for the passive attitude of the 90s.

I know you didn't mean it it in this context, but isn't this precisely
who we should be holding responsible?

VerDRUgen went on holiday durirng the Festina episode, and presided
through the non-positive of Delgado, and sat on the 10 minute penalty
rule for steroids in the Tour. This was years after doping had killed
Jensen and Simpson, after steroids were wrecking livers in East
Germany, and after the Dutch boys were dying with EPO. What is it
with that guy? Is anyone really that teflon coated?

[amit.ghosh@gmail.com]

On Nov 27, 7:47 pm, mtb Dad <listerfar...@telus.net> wrote:
> On Nov 27, 4:38 pm, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >but not the gov. bodies, unless you are holding them responsible for the passive attitude of the 90s.
>
> I know you didn't mean it it in this context, but isn't this precisely
> who we should be holding responsible?
>

yes.

but the fan reaction is that riders are being unfairly persecuted by
the gov. bodies, when in fact that is not the case.

historically they have been very lenient.

it is understandable since fans are fans of the riders, not of various
officials, organizers (nor should they be).

[B. Lafferty]

"mtb Dad" <listerfarrar@telus.net> wrote in message
news:942ff603-a110-4c39-803d-11c4c4783323@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 27, 4:38 pm, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>but not the gov. bodies, unless you are holding them responsible for the
>>passive attitude of the 90s.
>
> I know you didn't mean it it in this context, but isn't this precisely
> who we should be holding responsible?
>
> VerDRUgen went on holiday durirng the Festina episode, and presided
> through the non-positive of Delgado, and sat on the 10 minute penalty
> rule for steroids in the Tour. This was years after doping had killed
> Jensen and Simpson, after steroids were wrecking livers in East
> Germany, and after the Dutch boys were dying with EPO. What is it
> with that guy? Is anyone really that teflon coated?
>

It was just a business decision.

[Donald Munro]

B. Lafferty wrote:

The return of Lafferty and Sierraman ? Perhaps rbr really
is a pulsating universe and we are heading back to the
big bang. No doubt Kunich will be able to work out the
math involving string theory and colliding branes and
predict when Albright and Turdina will return.

[Bill C]

On Nov 28, 12:47 pm, "GoneBeforeMyTime" <F...@EuroForums.com> wrote:
> "Dave" <d...@theuninvitedcritic.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fihg4c02nrr@news3.newsguy.com...
>
> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/nov07/nov28news
>
> CN
> However, High Road Sports Inc., the team management company, said that "its
> elite men's and women's cycling teams will continue racing in 2008 after
> T-Mobile has ended its engagement. The teams will now be known as 'Team High
> Road'."
>
> High roads...http://www.highroadsports.com/news.php?article=7
>
> GBMT

It seems to have ended the way every dealing with Deutsche Telekom
ends, in a total clusterpuck. Brings back memories of using the phone
for most of a year as a "floor ornament" trying to get it connected.
Bill C

[Davey Crockett]

Bill C a écrit profondement:

| On Nov 28, 12:47 pm, "GoneBeforeMyTime" <F...@EuroForums.com> wrote:
| > "Dave" <d...@theuninvitedcritic.com> wrote in message
| >
| > news:fihg4c02nrr@news3.newsguy.com...
| >
| > >http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/nov07/nov28news
| >
| > CN
| > However, High Road Sports Inc., the team management company, said that "its
| > elite men's and women's cycling teams will continue racing in 2008 after
| > T-Mobile has ended its engagement. The teams will now be known as 'Team High
| > Road'."
| >
| > High roads...http://www.highroadsports.com/news.php?article=7
| >
| > GBMT
|
| It seems to have ended the way every dealing with Deutsche Telekom
| ends, in a total clusterpuck. Brings back memories of using the phone
| for most of a year as a "floor ornament" trying to get it connected.
| Bill C
|

Cry me a ****ing River

You should try living in FrankReich

At best it's Kafkaesque, at worst it's verging on being a Third World
****Hole

Davey is Baling out come SpringTime

--
Davey Crockett
-
Driving a Stake through the
Heart of the Politically Correct

[Kyle Legate]

Davey Crockett wrote:
> Bill C a écrit profondement:
>
> | On Nov 28, 12:47 pm, "GoneBeforeMyTime" <F...@EuroForums.com> wrote:
> | > "Dave" <d...@theuninvitedcritic.com> wrote in message
> | >
> | > news:fihg4c02nrr@news3.newsguy.com...
> | >
> | > >http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/nov07/nov28news
> | >
> | > CN
> | > However, High Road Sports Inc., the team management company, said that "its
> | > elite men's and women's cycling teams will continue racing in 2008 after
> | > T-Mobile has ended its engagement. The teams will now be known as 'Team High
> | > Road'."
> | >
> | > High roads...http://www.highroadsports.com/news.php?article=7
> | >
> | > GBMT
> |
> | It seems to have ended the way every dealing with Deutsche Telekom
> | ends, in a total clusterpuck. Brings back memories of using the phone
> | for most of a year as a "floor ornament" trying to get it connected.
> | Bill C
> |
>
> Cry me a ****ing River
>
> You should try living in FrankReich
>
> At best it's Kafkaesque, at worst it's verging on being a Third World
> ****Hole
>
Leftovers from the German occupation, I'm sure.

Kafka may have been Czech, but German was his first language.

[Ted van de Weteringe]

Davey Crockett wrote:
> You should try living in FrankReich
>
> At best it's Kafkaesque, at worst it's verging on being a Third World
> ****Hole
>
> Davey is Baling out come SpringTime

Yeah, to trade for southern Italy :roll-eyes: