What makes you feel old? (Fatty masters only)

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the other
guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the final
sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to which I
explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he said
something like "You climb really well for an older guy."

Ouch.

I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

[cyclintom@gmail.com]

On Nov 27, 9:52 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
> training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the other
> guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the final
> sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to which I
> explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he said
> something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
>
> Ouch.
>
> I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!

What a sissy. Imagine the lines I'm getting at 63 when I do a long
ride and don't have any after effects while the young guys are crying
about their legs hurting?

[Bruce Gilbert]

"Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:Zm73j.48322$eY.39456@newssvr13.news.prodigy.n et...
> So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
> training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the
other
> guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the final
> sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to which I
> explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he said
> something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
>
> Ouch.
>
> I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
Mike,
You are right at the threshold of age impairment.

Start investing in the sew-in name tags for your clothes, ID bracelets and
adult diapers. Oh, never mind about the diapers, the bike shorts have it
built in. Get used to the idea of people complementing you for the ability
of a "guy your age." :-)

Sunday I turned 57. We had a bunch of people over that I have not seen is a
lot of years. Quite a number of them have switched their diets to
incorporate eating whole basketballs. I mean these folks have not been able
to see their toes since the Berlin wall came down. Keep riding the bike, it
works. As we get older being in good shape can be useful to inspire
customers. Lead by example.

Every year at the show I keep running into more folks that I raced with in
the sixties. They all still look pretty good.

The cycling works, that is for certain. It certainly beats shuffleboard. As
we age the focus of performance changes. Forty years ago, I had fast legs
and a stiff ****, now I have stiff legs and a slow mind. There is no
justice...

Bruce

[WeaselPoopPower]

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
> training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the other
> guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the final
> sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to which I
> explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he said
> something like "You climb really well for an older guy."

If you're riding, you're not old....

http://www.velonews.com/photo/html/photo1511.html

http://www.velonews.com/photo/html/photo1802.html

[derFahrer@gmail.com]

> After which he said
> something like "You climb really well for an older guy."

Old guys are allowed to say that to another old guy.

When a young guy says it ... then you tell him he's a ***** for
getting beat by an old guy.

I felt old last week when I ran in a 4 mile Turkey Day race and got
passed in the last 300m by a 10 year old girl. I knew there was a
reason I race on wheels instead of on foot.

[amit.ghosh@gmail.com]

On Nov 28, 12:52 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
> training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the other
> guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the final
> sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to which I
> explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he said
> something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
>


makes me feel old when a rape victim gets 200 lashes. back in my day
they only got 10.

[ilanpsi@gmail.com]

On Nov 28, 6:52 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
> training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the other
> guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the final
> sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to which I
> explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he said
> something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
>
> Ouch.
>
> I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com

That's easy, training like I used to and getting injured just as I'm
about to get fit again. Has been going on for about 4 years now.

-ilan

[Crescentius Vespasianus]

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
> training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the other
> guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the final
> sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to which I
> explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he said
> something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
>
> Ouch.
>
> I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
----------
The opposite happened to me. People
think I'm 10 years younger than I
actually am (I was being carded into my
early 40's), so I have to explain the
reason I can't keep up, is because I'm
so damn old. But there is a benefit to
this. If a younger guy, is really
making me suffer, all I have to do is
tell him my age, and you'll see that
smile fall right off of his face.
Nothin' wrong with being old, I wouldn't
re-live my 20's for anything. I get
slower every year, but I enjoy it more.
But I was never much of a racer, and
hated the crashes, so it was a relief to
unburden me with that idea anyway.

[Jim Flom]

"Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:Zm73j.48322$eY.39456@newssvr13.news.prodigy.n et...
> So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
> training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the
> other guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the
> final sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to
> which I explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he
> said something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
>
> Ouch.
>
> I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!

People always think I'm younger than my 50 because of my girlish figure.
But a couple of days ago Corinne at the Fitness Centre wanted to list me in
the Leisure Guide as a satisfied customer, complete with photo and satisfied
customer quote. She took, and I looked at the photos (flickr, misc. Jim
photos, red hoodie, below). I thought, "Geez, I am older and uglier than I
thought I was!"

That makes me feel old. Cycling, I still feel strong and mighty. In my
mind.

--
JF
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14134175@N06/

[Michael Press]

In article
<Zm73j.48322$eY.39456@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net>,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


[...]

Answering the question in the title
(but disregard as I am neither)

People explaining things to me that I worked
out when I was far younger than they.

--
Michael Press

[Dana Myers]

What makes me feel old? Realizing that Hayden Panettiere is a few
weeks younger than my own daughter.

Dana

[RicodJour]

On Nov 28, 9:11 am, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 27, 9:52 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
> > training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the other
> > guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the final
> > sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to which I
> > explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he said
> > something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
>
> > Ouch.
>
> > I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!
>
> What a sissy. Imagine the lines I'm getting at 63 when I do a long
> ride and don't have any after effects while the young guys are crying
> about their legs hurting?

Yeah, I heard that old people dry up - guess it's true. :)~

R

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

>> So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
>> training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the
>> other
>> guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the final
>> sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to which I
>> explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he said
>> something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
>>
>> Ouch.
>>
>> I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!
>
> What a sissy. Imagine the lines I'm getting at 63 when I do a long
> ride and don't have any after effects while the young guys are crying
> about their legs hurting?

There's the guys, Sean, who up until last year would show up once in a while
and try to mix it up in the sprints. He's in his late-70s now. Still goes
over to Ireland each year for a double metric century.

If there's anything I've noticed as I've gotten older, it's that I have a
lot more endurance than before, or perhaps it's just more patience that lets
me know that, if I'm not feeling great at the beginning of a ride, there's
no reason to let that bug me and wreck the day, because in all likelihood
I'll start feeling better as the ride goes on. And those young punks that go
flying off the front right from the start? Amazing how many of them you see
along the way, debris littering the side of the road (or camped out for
hours at a rest stop, trying to convince themselves to keep going).

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

[Kurgan Gringioni]

On Nov 28, 6:11 am, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> What a sissy. Imagine the lines I'm getting at 63 when I do a long
> ride and don't have any after effects while the young guys are crying
> about their legs hurting?




Wow, you must be a stud. I'm impressed.

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

> You are right at the threshold of age impairment.

Actually, it was about 4 years ago that I seemingly-suddenly lost max power
when climbing. Weird thing, that. I used to live for the steepest parts of
the climb, because that's where I caught up to others. Ironically, my
sprinting has greatly improved at the same time, and you'd think they'd be
related somewhat. However, I think sprinting benefits from being patient and
opportunistic. I simply don't give up, and sprints are invariably longer
than people believe... when they falter, I'm there. It's not a question of
if, but when.

> Every year at the show I keep running into more folks that I raced with in
> the sixties. They all still look pretty good.

For the most part that's true! Staying in reasonable shape has been a bit of
a battle though. Keeping the weight off isn't easy, and weight is just about
everything, isn't it? A few years ago I had to switch to rabbit food
(salads) for lunch. It worked. I don't look forward to it, but neither do I
look forward to a slow creep upward on the scale. I'm probably eating better
now than I ever did before, or at least I'm aware of what the stuff I eat
will do to me (and often eat it anyway... sigh). If there's one single thing
about getting older that's no fair, it's your body becoming more efficient
such that you need to eat less. Should be the other way around.

> The cycling works, that is for certain. It certainly beats shuffleboard.
> As
> we age the focus of performance changes. Forty years ago, I had fast legs
> and a stiff ****, now I have stiff legs and a slow mind. There is no
> justice...

Martin Mull said something about that. "Seems like a man's mind is the last
thing to go soft" or something like that.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com



"Bruce Gilbert" <bgilbertREMOVE@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
news:13kr0elklcqis0f@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:Zm73j.48322$eY.39456@newssvr13.news.prodigy.n et...
>> So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
>> training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the
> other
>> guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the final
>> sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to which I
>> explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he said
>> something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
>>
>> Ouch.
>>
>> I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!
>>
>> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
>> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>>
> Mike,
> You are right at the threshold of age impairment.
>
> Start investing in the sew-in name tags for your clothes, ID bracelets and
> adult diapers. Oh, never mind about the diapers, the bike shorts have it
> built in. Get used to the idea of people complementing you for the ability
> of a "guy your age." :-)
>
> Sunday I turned 57. We had a bunch of people over that I have not seen is
> a
> lot of years. Quite a number of them have switched their diets to
> incorporate eating whole basketballs. I mean these folks have not been
> able
> to see their toes since the Berlin wall came down. Keep riding the bike,
> it
> works. As we get older being in good shape can be useful to inspire
> customers. Lead by example.
>
> Every year at the show I keep running into more folks that I raced with in
> the sixties. They all still look pretty good.
>
> The cycling works, that is for certain. It certainly beats shuffleboard.
> As
> we age the focus of performance changes. Forty years ago, I had fast legs
> and a stiff ****, now I have stiff legs and a slow mind. There is no
> justice...
>
> Bruce
>
>
>

[Tom Kunich]

"Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:leg3j.48349$eY.18292@newssvr13.news.prodigy.n et...
>>
>> What a sissy. Imagine the lines I'm getting at 63 when I do a long
>> ride and don't have any after effects while the young guys are crying
>> about their legs hurting?
>
> If there's anything I've noticed as I've gotten older, it's that I have a
> lot more endurance than before, or perhaps it's just more patience that
> lets me know that, if I'm not feeling great at the beginning of a ride,
> there's no reason to let that bug me and wreck the day, because in all
> likelihood I'll start feeling better as the ride goes on.

I think that we have the patience to know that going fast at the start isn't
a good recipe for feeling better at the end of the ride. Or for that matter
the second 80 miles of a century.

[Andre]

On Nov 28, 10:58 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
> >> training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the
> >> other
> >> guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the final
> >> sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to which I
> >> explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he said
> >> something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
>
> >> Ouch.
>
> >> I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!
>
> > What a sissy. Imagine the lines I'm getting at 63 when I do a long
> > ride and don't have any after effects while the young guys are crying
> > about their legs hurting?
>
> There's the guys, Sean, who up until last year would show up once in a while
> and try to mix it up in the sprints. He's in his late-70s now. Still goes
> over to Ireland each year for a double metric century.
>
> If there's anything I've noticed as I've gotten older, it's that I have a
> lot more endurance than before, or perhaps it's just more patience that lets
> me know that, if I'm not feeling great at the beginning of a ride, there's
> no reason to let that bug me and wreck the day, because in all likelihood
> I'll start feeling better as the ride goes on. And those young punks that go
> flying off the front right from the start? Amazing how many of them you see
> along the way, debris littering the side of the road (or camped out for
> hours at a rest stop, trying to convince themselves to keep going).
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com

How long are your races or your traing rides?

Andre

[dustoyevsky@mac.com]

On Nov 28, 10:06 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Actually, it was about 4 years ago that I seemingly-suddenly lost max power
> when climbing. Weird thing, that. I used to live for the steepest parts of
> the climb, because that's where I caught up to others. Ironically, my
> sprinting has greatly improved at the same time, and you'd think they'd be
> related somewhat.

Another trade... what was I going to say... oh yeah: Same thing as
when you need to get up for the Old Person Pee every night, but on the
other hand, you don't need as much sleep as you used to.

Also useful: How bad can you really need something out of the
refrigerator if you can't remember what it was you wanted once you get
there?

I'm sure there will be other stops on the way to Wherever. --D-y

[RicodJour]

On Nov 28, 11:12 am, WeaselPoopPower <wea...@poop.ca> wrote:
>
> If you're riding, you're not old....
>
> http://www.velonews.com/photo/html/photo1511.html
>
> http://www.velonews.com/photo/html/photo1802.html

Hmmm, I remember Cipo as being much more dashing. Well, at least he's
still riding.

R

[Crescentius Vespasianus]

>> After which he said
>> something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
>
> Old guys are allowed to say that to another old guy.
>
> When a young guy says it ... then you tell him he's a ***** for
> getting beat by an old guy.
>
> I felt old last week when I ran in a 4 mile Turkey Day race and got
> passed in the last 300m by a 10 year old girl. I knew there was a
> reason I race on wheels instead of on foot.
-----------
I had the opposite occur to me, I'm
actually more competitive in my age
group running, than riding. No tactics
in running, and no assholes, is the only
way I can explain it. But riding is
more fun, just as long as I'm not in a race.

[Bill C]

On Nov 28, 6:38 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> That's easy, training like I used to and getting injured just as I'm
> about to get fit again. Has been going on for about 4 years now.
>
> -ilan

You've got my deepest sympathy. That really sucks, especially when you
are really starting to feel good, things are really coming together,
and boom, you're screwed again.
Unfortunately in my case my body got really old really early. There's
always next year, and once the senility sets in the day is full of
surprises to keep it interesting. ;-)
Bill C

[xzzy]

( meant to be funny ) a potential login failure message:

and once the senility sets in the day is full of surprises to keep it
interesting. ;-)
Bill C


"Bill C" <tritonrider@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:3e62251d-4d6c-475d-9ecc-c1f2b32e4514@w28g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 28, 6:38 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> That's easy, training like I used to and getting injured just as I'm
>> about to get fit again. Has been going on for about 4 years now.
>>
>> -ilan
>
> You've got my deepest sympathy. That really sucks, especially when you
> are really starting to feel good, things are really coming together,
> and boom, you're screwed again.
> Unfortunately in my case my body got really old really early. There's
> always next year, and once the senility sets in the day is full of
> surprises to keep it interesting. ;-)
> Bill C

[Donald Munro]

Jim Flom wrote:
> and I looked at the photos (flickr, misc. Jim photos,
> red hoodie, below). I thought, "Geez, I am older and
> uglier than I thought I was!"

I think we all have an internal view of ourself as being
a certain age regardless of how old we actually are.

And there is a difference between biological age and
chronological age.

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article <LHr3j.11105$HH2.1398@edtnps82>,
"Jim Flom" <jim.flomREMOVE@telus.net> wrote:

> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:Zm73j.48322$eY.39456@newssvr13.news.prodigy.n et...
> > So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
> > training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the
> > other guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the
> > final sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to
> > which I explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he
> > said something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
> >
> > Ouch.
> >
> > I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!
>
> People always think I'm younger than my 50 because of my girlish figure.
> But a couple of days ago Corinne at the Fitness Centre wanted to list me in
> the Leisure Guide as a satisfied customer, complete with photo and satisfied
> customer quote. She took, and I looked at the photos (flickr, misc. Jim
> photos, red hoodie, below). I thought, "Geez, I am older and uglier than I
> thought I was!"
>
> That makes me feel old. Cycling, I still feel strong and mighty. In my
> mind.

I've noticed one key thing about cycling: the helmet hides a multitude
of sins, especially those of the no-hair kind.

Also, after as I looked at your picture, I next clicked on the "2007
Philly Vacation" photoset.

I'm not a bad person, really!

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

[cyclintom@gmail.com]

On Nov 28, 9:00 pm, "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> That makes me feel old. Cycling, I still feel strong and mighty. In my
> mind.

Jim, it has ALWAYS been in your mind...

[RicodJour]

On Nov 29, 12:00 am, "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net> wrote:
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>
> news:Zm73j.48322$eY.39456@newssvr13.news.prodigy.n et...
>
> > So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
> > training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the
> > other guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the
> > final sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to
> > which I explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he
> > said something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
>
> > Ouch.
>
> > I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!
>
> People always think I'm younger than my 50 because of my girlish figure.
> But a couple of days ago Corinne at the Fitness Centre wanted to list me in
> the Leisure Guide as a satisfied customer, complete with photo and satisfied
> customer quote. She took, and I looked at the photos (flickr, misc. Jim
> photos, red hoodie, below). I thought, "Geez, I am older and uglier than I
> thought I was!"
>
> That makes me feel old. Cycling, I still feel strong and mighty. In my
> mind.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/14134175@N06/

Two things:
- I always thought you were a lot uglier.
- If the older girl is your daughter, you are hanging out on the wrong
newsgroup. Try alt.guns - skip the small weaponry and go right for
the assault weapons. Make it a point to invite any prospective
boyfriends in for a tour of your gun collection. "Do you know _why_
they're called assault rifles, Timmy...?"

R

[cyclintom@gmail.com]

On Nov 29, 12:11 am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> And there is a difference between biological age and
> chronological age.

I'm absolutely certain that you believe that and I'll giggle about
that the rest of the day.

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:21:09 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca>
wrote:

>In article <LHr3j.11105$HH2.1398@edtnps82>,
> "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREMOVE@telus.net> wrote:
>
>> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>> news:Zm73j.48322$eY.39456@newssvr13.news.prodigy.n et...
>> > So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
>> > training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the
>> > other guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the
>> > final sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to
>> > which I explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he
>> > said something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
>> >
>> > Ouch.
>> >
>> > I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!
>>
>> People always think I'm younger than my 50 because of my girlish figure.
>> But a couple of days ago Corinne at the Fitness Centre wanted to list me in
>> the Leisure Guide as a satisfied customer, complete with photo and satisfied
>> customer quote. She took, and I looked at the photos (flickr, misc. Jim
>> photos, red hoodie, below). I thought, "Geez, I am older and uglier than I
>> thought I was!"
>>
>> That makes me feel old. Cycling, I still feel strong and mighty. In my
>> mind.
>
>I've noticed one key thing about cycling: the helmet hides a multitude
>of sins, especially those of the no-hair kind.

Yeah. A couple months ago I met a woman friend I hadn't seen in
around ten years, and she said (honestly I think) "You have barely
changed at all (well, I've gained 4-5 lbs). Then I took off my helmet
and she sorta winced.

JT

[Jim Flom]

"Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote...
>
> Also, after as I looked at your picture, I next clicked on the "2007
> Philly Vacation" photoset.
>
> I'm not a bad person, really!

You're allowed. The sculptures in that set are the work of my brother, the
starving artist hippie in the family. They were on display at his alma
mater, the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts. You can see "s. flom" carved
into the ass of one of them.

--
JF

[Donald Munro]

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>>I've noticed one key thing about cycling: the helmet hides a multitude of
>>sins, especially those of the no-hair kind.

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> Yeah. A couple months ago I met a woman friend I hadn't seen in around
> ten years, and she said (honestly I think) "You have barely changed at all
> (well, I've gained 4-5 lbs). Then I took off my helmet and she sorta
> winced.

Just wear a blonde wig, its safer too:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article637031.ece

[RicodJour]

On Nov 29, 9:06 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
wrote:
>
> Yeah. A couple months ago I met a woman friend I hadn't seen in
> around ten years, and she said (honestly I think) "You have barely
> changed at all (well, I've gained 4-5 lbs). Then I took off my helmet
> and she sorta winced.

That's why you should always have a supply of business cards for
doctors specializing in liposuction. She winces, you hand out a card.

R

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

>>I've noticed one key thing about cycling: the helmet hides a multitude
>>of sins, especially those of the no-hair kind.
>
> Yeah. A couple months ago I met a woman friend I hadn't seen in
> around ten years, and she said (honestly I think) "You have barely
> changed at all (well, I've gained 4-5 lbs). Then I took off my helmet
> and she sorta winced.

I wonder about the intelligence of hair stylists sometimes. Why do they give
you a mirror to check out the top & back of your head... before you've given
them a tip? Just seems dumb.

On the other hand, as you have less hair, the helmet causes fewer bad-hair
days. Especially when you finally realize you're not kidding anybody with
long hair... time to cut it short and deal with it. The last thing in the
world you want to be is that guy who does the comb-over thing (and I
honestly think it happens sometimes without even trying).

--Mike--
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com

[Donald Munro]

Donald Munro wrote:
>> And there is a difference between biological age and chronological age.

cyclintom wrote:
> I'm absolutely certain that you believe that and I'll giggle about that
> the rest of the day.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3659/is_199402/ai_n8730548
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0302283805001971
http://meeting.chestjournal.org/cgi/content/abstract/124/4/194S-b

[Bruce Gilbert]

"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
news:79188c43-bbe8-4762-ad07-be17d6a42b5d@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 29, 9:06 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah. A couple months ago I met a woman friend I hadn't seen in
> > around ten years, and she said (honestly I think) "You have barely
> > changed at all (well, I've gained 4-5 lbs). Then I took off my helmet
> > and she sorta winced.
>
> That's why you should always have a supply of business cards for
> doctors specializing in liposuction. She winces, you hand out a card.
>
> R
>
Good call! Don't forget about the colon cleansing products.

Bruce

[William R. Mattil]

RicodJour wrote:
> On Nov 29, 9:06 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
> wrote:
>> Yeah. A couple months ago I met a woman friend I hadn't seen in
>> around ten years, and she said (honestly I think) "You have barely
>> changed at all (well, I've gained 4-5 lbs). Then I took off my helmet
>> and she sorta winced.
>
> That's why you should always have a supply of business cards for
> doctors specializing in liposuction. She winces, you hand out a card.
>


I like it !

Not subtle, but very effective <g>


Bill

[Bruce Gilbert]

"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
news:b147ae8e-86d5-4fd1-86bd-c332ca57533a@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 29, 12:00 am, "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net> wrote:
> > "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:Zm73j.48322$eY.39456@newssvr13.news.prodigy.n et...
> >
> > > So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
> > > training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the
> > > other guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting
the
> > > final sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to
> > > which I explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After
which he
> > > said something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
> >
> > > Ouch.
> >
> > > I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!
> >
> > People always think I'm younger than my 50 because of my girlish figure.
> > But a couple of days ago Corinne at the Fitness Centre wanted to list me
in
> > the Leisure Guide as a satisfied customer, complete with photo and
satisfied
> > customer quote. She took, and I looked at the photos (flickr, misc. Jim
> > photos, red hoodie, below). I thought, "Geez, I am older and uglier
than I
> > thought I was!"
> >
> > That makes me feel old. Cycling, I still feel strong and mighty. In my
> > mind.
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/14134175@N06/
>
> Two things:
> - I always thought you were a lot uglier.
> - If the older girl is your daughter, you are hanging out on the wrong
> newsgroup. Try alt.guns - skip the small weaponry and go right for
> the assault weapons. Make it a point to invite any prospective
> boyfriends in for a tour of your gun collection. "Do you know _why_
> they're called assault rifles, Timmy...?"
>
> R
>

No, no , no, you have is all wrong. Simply buy a few shotgun shells. Next,
with your best calligraphy, inscribe the young man's name on the shell. Then
present it to him when he and the daughter are leaving for a date,
suggesting that the agreed return-to-home time is a good idea...

Bruce

[Jim Flom]

"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote...
>
> Two things:
> - I always thought you were a lot uglier.
> - If the older girl is your daughter, you are hanging out on the wrong
> newsgroup. Try alt.guns - skip the small weaponry and go right for
> the assault weapons. Make it a point to invite any prospective
> boyfriends in for a tour of your gun collection. "Do you know _why_
> they're called assault rifles, Timmy...?"

I always have the application and Ten simple Rules for Dating my Daughter
close at hand:

Application for Permission to Date my Daughter

Note: This application will be incomplete and rejected unless accompanied by
a complete financial statement, job history, lineage, and current medical
report from your doctor. Please be prepared to submit additional
information like a psychological profile and polygraph test as required.


Name: ____________________________
Date of Birth: ____________________
Height: ________ Weight: ________ IQ: ________ GPA: _________
Social Insurance Number: ________________
Driver's License Number: _____________
Boy Scout Rank: __________

Home Address: __________________
City/Province: ____________
Postal Code: _______
Phone number of everyone you know: ________________________________________

Do you have at least one MALE and one FEMALE parent: _______
If NO, explain: ____________________________________________
How fast can you run 40 yards? __________
How fast can you run two miles? __________
Do you own a van? ________! ____________
A truck with oversized tires? _____________
A waterbed? ________
Do you have an earring? __________
Nose ring? _________
Belly button ring? ______________
Tattoo? ____________

If YES to any of these questions, discontinue application and leave the
premises!!!!!

In 50 words or less, what does LATE mean to you?


In 50 words or less, what does DON'T TOUCH MY DAUGHTER mean to you?


In 50 words or less, what does ABSTINENCE mean to you?


Church you attend: ________________________
How often do you attend? _________________
When would be the best time to interview your father, mother and minister?
__________

Answer by filling in the blanks; please answer freely. All answers will be
confidential. (That means I won't tell anyone.)

If I were shot, the last place on my body I would want to be wounded is:
__________________________________________________ ____________________

If I were beaten, the last bone I would want to be broken is my:
__________________________________________________ _____________________

A woman's place is in the __________________________________________________

The one thing I hope this application does not ask me about is:
__________________________________________________ ______________________

In the unfortunate event of my untimely death, I would like _______________
to be contacted.

My greatest fear is:
__________________________________________________ ______

When I first meet a girl, the one thing I notice about her first is her:
_________________
(Note: If the answer to the question begins with B, discontinue and leave
the premises - keeping head low and running in a serpentine fashion.)

What do you want to be IF you grow up?
______________________________________

Have you ever been arrested? __________
Have you ever been fingerprinted? __________
Had a DNA sample taken?: ________________
Ever have to stay after school?
Your dentist is: _________________
Emergency phone number: _________________

I SWEAR THAT ALL INFORMATION SUPPLIED ABOVE IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST
OF MY KNOWLEDGE UNDER PENALTY OF DEATH, DISMEMBERMENT, NATIVE TORTURE,
CRUCIFIXION, ELECTROCUTION, CHINESE WATER TORTURE, AND RED HOT POKERS.

_________________________________________
Signature (that means sign your name)


Note: After submitting your application please allow 4-6 years for
processing.

Read On


Ten Simple Rules For Dating My Daughter:

Rule One:
If you pull into my driveway and honk, you'd better be delivering a package,
because you're sure not picking up anything.

Rule Two:
Do not touch my daughter in front of me. You may glance at her, so long as
you do not gaze at anything below her neck. If you cannot keep your eyes or
hands off of my daughter's body, I will remove them.

Rule Three:
I am aware that it is considered fashionable for boys of your age to wear
their trousers so loosely that they appear to be falling off their hips.
Please don't take this as an insult, but you and all of your friends are
complete idiots. Still, I want to be fair and open-minded about this issue,
so I propose this compromise: you may come to the door with your underwear
showing and your pants way too big, and I will not verbally object.
However, in order to ensure that your clothes do not, in fact, come off
during the course of your date with my daughter, I will take my heavy-duty
electric staple gun and fasten your trousers securely in place to your
waist.

Rule Four:
I'm sure you've been told that in today's world, sex without utilizing a
"barrier method" of some kind can kill you. Let me elaborate: when it comes
to sex, I am the barrier, and I will definitely kill you.

Rule Five:
Current thinking is that in order for you and me to get to know each other,
we should talk about sports, politics, and other issues of the day. Please
do not do this. The only information I require from you is an indication of
when you expect to have my daughter safely back at my house, and the only
words I need from you on this subject are "early" and "Sir.”

Rule Six:
I have no doubt you are a popular fellow, with opportunities to date other
girls. This is fine with me as long as it is okay with my daughter.
Otherwise, once you have gone out with my little girl, you will continue to
date no one but her until she is finished with you. If you make her cry, I
will make you cry.

Rule Seven:
As you stand in my front hallway, waiting for my daughter to appear, do not
sigh and fidget. If you want to be on time for the movie, you should not be
dating my daughter. She is putting on her makeup, or whatever, a process
that can take longer than painting the Golden Gate Bridge. Instead of just
standing there, why don't you do something useful, like changing the oil in
my car?

Rule Eight:
The following places are not appropriate for a date with my daughter: Places
where there are beds, sofas, or anything softer than a wooden stool - places
where there are no parents, policemen, or nuns within eyesight - places that
are dark or poorly lit - places where there is dancing, holding hands, or
excessive happiness - places where the ambient temperature is warm enough to
induce my daughter to wear shorts, tank tops, midriff T-shirts, or anything
other than overalls, a sweater, and a goose down parka zipped up to her
throat - movies with a strong romantic or sexual theme. Hockey games are
okay. Old folks homes are better.

Rule Nine:
Do not ever lie to me. I may appear to be a middle-aged, dim-witted
has-been, but on issues relating to my daughter, I am the all-knowing,
merciless god of your universe. Your lungs will continue to draw a breath
of life only as long as you humor me. If I ask you where you are going and
with whom, you have one chance to tell me the truth, the whole truth and
nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel, and five acres behind
the house. Do not trifle with me.

Rule Ten:
Be afraid. Be VERY afraid! Some fear in your young life can save much
turmoil and pain. It takes very little for me to mistake the sound of your
car in the driveway for a chopper coming in over a rice paddy. When my Post
Traumatic Stress Disorder starts kicking in, the malevolent voices in my
head frequently tell me to clean the guns as I wait for you to bring my
daughter home. As soon as you pull into the driveway, you should exit your
car with both hands in plain sight. Note the camouflaged face at the window
is mine. Speak the perimeter password, announce in a clear voice that you
have brought my daughter home safely AND early, and then return to your
car - there is no need for you to come inside.

That will be all - you are dismissed.


--
JF

[Ryan Cousineau]

On Nov 29, 7:04 am, "Bruce Gilbert" <bgilbertREM...@hal-pc.org> wrote:
> "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b147ae8e-86d5-4fd1-86bd-c332ca57533a@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 29, 12:00 am, "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net> wrote:
> > > "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:Zm73j.48322$eY.39456@newssvr13.news.prodigy.n et...
>
> > > > So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
> > > > training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the
> > > > other guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting
> the
> > > > final sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to
> > > > which I explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After
> which he
> > > > said something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
>
> > > > Ouch.
>
> > > > I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!
>
> > > People always think I'm younger than my 50 because of my girlish figure.
> > > But a couple of days ago Corinne at the Fitness Centre wanted to list me
> in
> > > the Leisure Guide as a satisfied customer, complete with photo and
> satisfied
> > > customer quote. She took, and I looked at the photos (flickr, misc. Jim
> > > photos, red hoodie, below). I thought, "Geez, I am older and uglier
> than I
> > > thought I was!"
>
> > > That makes me feel old. Cycling, I still feel strong and mighty. In my
> > > mind.
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/14134175@N06/
>
> > Two things:
> > - I always thought you were a lot uglier.
> > - If the older girl is your daughter, you are hanging out on the wrong
> > newsgroup. Try alt.guns - skip the small weaponry and go right for
> > the assault weapons. Make it a point to invite any prospective
> > boyfriends in for a tour of your gun collection. "Do you know _why_
> > they're called assault rifles, Timmy...?"
>
> > R
>
> No, no , no, you have is all wrong. Simply buy a few shotgun shells. Next,
> with your best calligraphy, inscribe the young man's name on the shell. Then
> present it to him when he and the daughter are leaving for a date,
> suggesting that the agreed return-to-home time is a good idea...
>
> Bruce

Well, that's amusing, but being old-school, I still think that sitting
in the living room and cleaning a long gun is the proper, traditional
way to greet a boy a-courting.

Was always a perfect gentleman myself, of course,

[cyclintom@gmail.com]

On Nov 29, 7:44 am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Donald Munro wrote:
> >> And there is a difference between biological age and chronological age.
> cyclintom wrote:
> > I'm absolutely certain that you believe that and I'll giggle about that
> > the rest of the day.
>
> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3659/is_199402/ai_n8730548http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0302283805001971http://meeting.chestjournal.org/cgi/content/abstract/124/4/194S-b

HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!

Only some fool frightened of growing old would believe that crap. Like
that was some sort of revelation from you.

[RicodJour]

On Nov 29, 12:11 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, that's amusing, but being old-school, I still think that sitting
> in the living room and cleaning a long gun is the proper, traditional
> way to greet a boy a-courting.
>
> Was always a perfect gentleman myself, of course,

God, you must have been lonely!

R

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article
<e1c66d48-6661-4b69-aea6-5b781e89a259@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
RicodJour <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 29, 12:11 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well, that's amusing, but being old-school, I still think that sitting
> > in the living room and cleaning a long gun is the proper, traditional
> > way to greet a boy a-courting.
> >
> > Was always a perfect gentleman myself, of course,
>
> God, you must have been lonely!
>
> R

Praps. Married seven years, though.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

[Donald Munro]

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>> Was always a perfect gentleman myself, of course,

RicodJour wrote:
> God, you must have been lonely!

Too drunk to be lonely.

[Michael Press]

In article
<1EI3j.25075$JD.24936@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net>,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:

> >>I've noticed one key thing about cycling: the helmet hides a multitude
> >>of sins, especially those of the no-hair kind.
> >
> > Yeah. A couple months ago I met a woman friend I hadn't seen in
> > around ten years, and she said (honestly I think) "You have barely
> > changed at all (well, I've gained 4-5 lbs). Then I took off my helmet
> > and she sorta winced.
>
> I wonder about the intelligence of hair stylists sometimes. Why do they give
> you a mirror to check out the top & back of your head... before you've given
> them a tip? Just seems dumb.
>
> On the other hand, as you have less hair, the helmet causes fewer bad-hair
> days. Especially when you finally realize you're not kidding anybody with
> long hair... time to cut it short and deal with it. The last thing in the
> world you want to be is that guy who does the comb-over thing (and I
> honestly think it happens sometimes without even trying).

I had a guy cut my hair for a while. He was sensible
and cut good. One day he said I had gray in my hair.
Yeah, tell me something I don't know. Happened again.
I never claimed to be quick. Takes me months and years
to figure out things. Then the penny dropped and I
dropped him. He wanted to sell me hair color. Hah!
I'll look good. A dried apple under glossy chestnut locks.
Not to mention years of bad thoughts and a wary disposition.
Maybe for Halloween. Terrorize the kiddies.

--
Michael Press

[Michael Press]

In article <qLJ3j.11219$HH2.10067@edtnps82>,
"Jim Flom" <jim.flomREMOVE@telus.net> wrote:

> "RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote...
> >
> > Two things:
> > - I always thought you were a lot uglier.
> > - If the older girl is your daughter, you are hanging out on the wrong
> > newsgroup. Try alt.guns - skip the small weaponry and go right for
> > the assault weapons. Make it a point to invite any prospective
> > boyfriends in for a tour of your gun collection. "Do you know _why_
> > they're called assault rifles, Timmy...?"
>
> I always have the application and Ten simple Rules for Dating my Daughter
> close at hand:
>
> Application for Permission to Date my Daughter
>
> Note: This application will be incomplete and rejected unless accompanied by
> a complete financial statement, job history, lineage, and current medical
> report from your doctor. Please be prepared to submit additional
> information like a psychological profile and polygraph test as required.
>
>
> Name: ____________________________

Ken Shabby. I clean out public lavatories.
Next year I get a brush. HUUUARGH.
Sorry about gobbing on the carpet, Squire.

--
Michael Press

[Ted van de Weteringe]

Jim Flom schreef:
> Application for Permission to Date my Daughter
> [...]
> Rule Ten:
> Be afraid. Be VERY afraid!

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/03/europe/EU-GEN-Greece-Sword-Attack.php

[RicodJour]

On Nov 29, 8:52 pm, "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> You're allowed. The sculptures in that set are the work of my brother, the
> starving artist hippie in the family. They were on display at his alma
> mater, the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts. You can see "s. flom" carved
> into the ass of one of them.

The sculptures are good. Reminds me of that prolific Norwegian
sculptor, whatshisname. The one with the whole park of sculptures.

R

[Jim Flom]

"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
news:3f951693-572c-4e85-b607-91bebffdd5eb@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 29, 8:52 pm, "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net> wrote:
>>
>> You're allowed. The sculptures in that set are the work of my brother,
>> the
>> starving artist hippie in the family. They were on display at his alma
>> mater, the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts. You can see "s. flom"
>> carved
>> into the ass of one of them.
>
> The sculptures are good. Reminds me of that prolific Norwegian
> sculptor, whatshisname. The one with the whole park of sculptures.

Thanks. I'm proud of my brudder. Maybe you mean Gustav Vigeland. We're
half Norwegian, so it must be in the genes. Well, his anyway.

--
JF

[Bob Schwartz]

RicodJour wrote:
> The sculptures are good. Reminds me of that prolific Norwegian
> sculptor, whatshisname. The one with the whole park of sculptures.

This is within the reach of anyone.

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/WIPHIconcrete.html

I have relatives that knew the guy. When he retired, his life
became consumed with buying sacks of concrete and and collecting
Rhinelander beer bottles as the raw materials for his creations.

Bob Schwartz

[RicodJour]

On Nov 30, 4:13 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 29, 12:11 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Was always a perfect gentleman myself, of course,
>
> > God, you must have been lonely!
>
> Praps. Married seven years, though.

Yes, I did notice the past tense when you were referring to your
gentlemanly ways.

R

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article <474fd634$0$1765$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com>,
Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> >> Was always a perfect gentleman myself, of course,
>
> RicodJour wrote:
> > God, you must have been lonely!
>
> Too drunk to be lonely.

Came to drinking late. Also, being drunk helps men with loneliness
rather less than it does women.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article
<10eec9aa-2fa7-4f81-92b4-016bfc0bf9fe@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
RicodJour <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 30, 4:13 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> > RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> > > On Nov 29, 12:11 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Was always a perfect gentleman myself, of course,
> >
> > > God, you must have been lonely!
> >
> > Praps. Married seven years, though.
>
> Yes, I did notice the past tense when you were referring to your
> gentlemanly ways.
>
> R

Er...

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

> How long are your races or your traing rides?
>
> Andre

About 2 hours door-to-door, 31 miles, 3600ft of climbing. Rides, not races.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


"Andre" <ANDREJANSSENS1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8a1460fd-5a12-47b7-9cb1-85b8d1c7c9ee@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 28, 10:58 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >> So this morning we're returning from our training ride (I guess it's a
>> >> training ride, although I haven't actually raced for a while) (but the
>> >> other
>> >> guys do, so does that count?) and after successfully contesting the
>> >> final
>> >> sprint one of the guys is expressing surprise at my strength, to which
>> >> I
>> >> explain that those who can no longer climb, sprint. After which he
>> >> said
>> >> something like "You climb really well for an older guy."
>>
>> >> Ouch.
>>
>> >> I'm 51, he's 42, not *that* much younger!
>>
>> > What a sissy. Imagine the lines I'm getting at 63 when I do a long
>> > ride and don't have any after effects while the young guys are crying
>> > about their legs hurting?
>>
>> There's the guys, Sean, who up until last year would show up once in a
>> while
>> and try to mix it up in the sprints. He's in his late-70s now. Still goes
>> over to Ireland each year for a double metric century.
>>
>> If there's anything I've noticed as I've gotten older, it's that I have a
>> lot more endurance than before, or perhaps it's just more patience that
>> lets
>> me know that, if I'm not feeling great at the beginning of a ride,
>> there's
>> no reason to let that bug me and wreck the day, because in all likelihood
>> I'll start feeling better as the ride goes on. And those young punks that
>> go
>> flying off the front right from the start? Amazing how many of them you
>> see
>> along the way, debris littering the side of the road (or camped out for
>> hours at a rest stop, trying to convince themselves to keep going).
>>
>> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
> How long are your races or your traing rides?
>
> Andre

[Sandy]

Dans le message de news:HW04j.21773$4V6.9515@newssvr14.news.prodigy.n et,
Mike Jacoubowsky <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
>> How long are your races or your traing rides?
>>
>> Andre
>
> About 2 hours door-to-door, 31 miles, 3600ft of climbing. Rides, not
> races.
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

I visited my son while he lived in a nearby town, and I remember no relief
in the terrain. Now that he's in Mountain View, and I need to visit him,
I'm silly enough to brink a bike out. When do you ride? And a polite
evasion will not be met gruffly.

--
Sandy
--
C'est le contraire du vélo, la bicyclette.
Une silhouette profilée mauve fluo dévale
à soixante-dix à l'heure : c'est du vélo.
Deux lycéennes côte à côte traversent
un pont à Bruges : c'est de la bicyclette.
-Delerm, P.

[Tom Kunich]

"Sandy" <leurrre@free.fr> wrote in message
news:4750a720$0$9889$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> I visited my son while he lived in a nearby town, and I remember no relief
> in the terrain. Now that he's in Mountain View, and I need to visit him,
> I'm silly enough to brink a bike out. When do you ride? And a polite
> evasion will not be met gruffly.

What size bike do you ride Sandy? When you're here I wouldn't mind putting
in a ride with you.

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

"Sandy" <leurrre@free.fr> wrote in message
news:4750a720$0$9889$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Dans le message de news:HW04j.21773$4V6.9515@newssvr14.news.prodigy.n et,
> Mike Jacoubowsky <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
>>> How long are your races or your traing rides?
>>>
>>> Andre
>>
>> About 2 hours door-to-door, 31 miles, 3600ft of climbing. Rides, not
>> races.
>> --Mike Jacoubowsky
>> Chain Reaction Bicycles
>> www.ChainReaction.com
>> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
> I visited my son while he lived in a nearby town, and I remember no relief
> in the terrain. Now that he's in Mountain View, and I need to visit him,
> I'm silly enough to brink a bike out. When do you ride? And a polite
> evasion will not be met gruffly.

Sandy: Every single Tuesday & Thursday morning, rain or shine, no matter
what. Which typically means 2-3 near-epic rides/year, maybe another dozen or
so where we get quite wet. 7:45am, corner of Olive Hill & Canada Road, one
mile north of the town of Woodside. We'd be happy to have you join us! It's
an open ride to anyone willing to suffer. Well, that's not entirely true.
The better guys don't seem to be suffering nearly as much as I do, so
suffering, for some, is optional. For me, it's mandatory.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

[rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com]

On Nov 30, 4:13 pm, "Sandy" <leur...@free.fr> wrote:

> I visited my son while he lived in a nearby town, and I remember no relief
> in the terrain.

It's a tad hillier than the Vexin.

[Jim Flom]

"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
news:13l1mqt5apqlpcc@corp.supernews.com...
> "Sandy" <leurrre@free.fr> wrote in message
> news:4750a720$0$9889$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> I visited my son while he lived in a nearby town, and I remember no
>> relief in the terrain. Now that he's in Mountain View, and I need to
>> visit him, I'm silly enough to brink a bike out. When do you ride? And
>> a polite evasion will not be met gruffly.
>
> What size bike do you ride Sandy? When you're here I wouldn't mind putting
> in a ride with you.

Yes, but will a polite evasion be met gruffly?

--
JF

[Sandy]

Dans le message de news:Bf54j.10539$Ji6.3915@edtnps89,
Jim Flom <jim.flomREMOVE@telus.net> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
> news:13l1mqt5apqlpcc@corp.supernews.com...
>> "Sandy" <leurrre@free.fr> wrote in message
>> news:4750a720$0$9889$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>
>>> I visited my son while he lived in a nearby town, and I remember no
>>> relief in the terrain. Now that he's in Mountain View, and I need
>>> to visit him, I'm silly enough to brink a bike out. When do you
>>> ride? And a polite evasion will not be met gruffly.
>>
>> What size bike do you ride Sandy? When you're here I wouldn't mind
>> putting in a ride with you.
>
> Yes, but will a polite evasion be met gruffly?

Riding a bike is not a political, theological, formal event. It would be a
pleasure to put a hurt on someone, socially.

[Tom Kunich]

"Sandy" <leurrre@free.fr> wrote in message
news:4750e50d$0$2289$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Dans le message de news:Bf54j.10539$Ji6.3915@edtnps89,
>
> Riding a bike is not a political, theological, formal event. It would be
> a pleasure to put a hurt on someone, socially.

I'm sure you know that there are some great rides over in the Woodside area.
Again - what size bike do you normally ride?

[Jim Flom]

"Ted van de Weteringe" <myfullname@xs4all.nl.invalid> wrote in message
news:4754619f$0$235$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> Jim Flom schreef:
>> Application for Permission to Date my Daughter
>> [...]
>> Rule Ten:
>> Be afraid. Be VERY afraid!
>
> http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/03/europe/EU-GEN-Greece-Sword-Attack.php

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2005/06/22/bc-father050622.html

--
JF

"Nothing gives one person so much advantage over another as to remain always
cool and unruffled under all circumstances. "
- Thomas Jefferson

[Ted van de Weteringe]

Jim Flom schreef:
>> http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/03/europe/EU-GEN-Greece-Sword-Attack.php
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2005/06/22/bc-father050622.html

He got it backwards. Damn stupid blood revenge.

[Michael Press]

In article <NX05j.36353$Zn.4276@edtnps90>,
"Jim Flom" <jim.flomREMOVE@telus.net> wrote:

> "Ted van de Weteringe" <myfullname@xs4all.nl.invalid> wrote in message
> news:4754619f$0$235$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> > Jim Flom schreef:
> >> Application for Permission to Date my Daughter
> >> [...]
> >> Rule Ten:
> >> Be afraid. Be VERY afraid!
> >
> > http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/03/europe/EU-GEN-Greece-Sword-Attack.php
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2005/06/22/bc-father050622.html

Did you post this as another example of leniency?
When is he eligible for parole (after he tells the
everybody how sorry he is)?

--
Michael Press