Continential team vs. UCI team?

[Hell and High Water]

What is the difference in these two?

LPR is a Continental team. What does that mean as far as which races
they can compete in?

Can they do the Tour, Giro, and Vuelta?


TIA,


-Bob

[unforgiven99@juno.com]

On Nov 29, 2:45 pm, Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEcomcast.net>
wrote:
> What is the difference in these two?
>
> LPR is a Continental team. What does that mean as far as which races
> they can compete in?
>
> Can they do the Tour, Giro, and Vuelta?
>
> TIA,
>
> -Bob

Continental teams are eligible for all races, but the percentage of
the field they can make up depends on the level of the race license.
There's a table on page 2:
http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/getObject.asp?MenuId=MTkzNg&ObjTypeCode=FILE&type=FILE&id=34028&
That's going to change for next season though, now that the grand
tours are out of the pro tour.

[MagillaGorilla]

unforgiven99@juno.com wrote:
> On Nov 29, 2:45 pm, Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEcomcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>What is the difference in these two?
>>
>>LPR is a Continental team. What does that mean as far as which races
>>they can compete in?
>>
>>Can they do the Tour, Giro, and Vuelta?
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>-Bob
>
>
> Continental teams are eligible for all races, but the percentage of
> the field they can make up depends on the level of the race license.
> There's a table on page 2:
> http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/getObject.asp?MenuId=MTkzNg&ObjTypeCode=FILE&type=FILE&id=34028&
> That's going to change for next season though, now that the grand
> tours are out of the pro tour.


Hey Dumbass,

The Grand Tours were never a part of the Pro Tour.

Magilla

[Geraard Spergen]

MagillaGorilla wrote:
> unforgiven99@juno.com wrote:

>> That's going to change for next season though, now that the grand
>> tours are out of the pro tour.
>
>
> Hey Dumbass,
>
> The Grand Tours were never a part of the Pro Tour.
>
> Magilla

???

[Carl Sundquist]

"MagillaGorilla" <magilla@sandiegozoo.com> wrote in message
news:fipgt2$3t9$1@aioe.org...
> unforgiven99@juno.com wrote:
>
> Hey Dumbass,
>
> The Grand Tours were never a part of the Pro Tour.
>
> Magilla

So how did Contador end up in third place overall?

[MagillaGorilla]

Carl Sundquist wrote:

>
> "MagillaGorilla" <magilla@sandiegozoo.com> wrote in message
> news:fipgt2$3t9$1@aioe.org...
>
>> unforgiven99@juno.com wrote:
>>
>> Hey Dumbass,
>>
>> The Grand Tours were never a part of the Pro Tour.
>>
>> Magilla
>
>
> So how did Contador end up in third place overall?


The Tour de France does not hold a UCI Pro Tour license, but the UCI
kept it on the Pro Tour calendar. The ASO wanted their race to have
nothing to do with the Pro Tour and they did not comply with Pro Tour rules.

So if you want to call that being a part of the Pro Tour then go right
ahead.

But the question you have to ask yourself is: given that the ASO does
not comply with Pro Tour rules and SELECTIVELY invites (and thereby
disinvites) whatever teams they want, you are excluding certain Pro Tour
team riders from obtaining Pro Tour points purely at the invitation
level. yet the entiire purpose of the pro Tour is to gie every Pro Tour
team and rider an equal chance. That's how the Pro Tour rules are set up.

But the ASO doesn't follow them.

So the next question is why would you (or anyone) care about such a
meaningless point system that prevents riders on certain Pro Tour teams
from even registering for these supposed Pro Tour events?

When you have the ASO not adhering to Pro Tour rules with any of their
races, the UCI has no business in including their events as part of the
UCI Pro Tour because:

1) The Tour (and other ASO events) violate the Pro Tour rules by
excluding certain Pro Tour teams from getting invited, thus preventing
all Pro Tour riders from hhaving an equal chance.

2) Allowing certain races to invite (and NOT invite) vertain pro Tour
team completely undermines the whole point of having a Pro Tour since
you are influencing the rankings at the invitation level (which has
NOTHING to do with the competition level that the rules call for the
ranking to be based upon).

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You, like a lot of gullible fans, stare at a meaningless points list
that you don't even understand. And when you throw in doping and the
fact that the No. 1 ranked Pro Tour guy was prevented from starting
worlds, you're looking at a completely ****ed up and meaningless
competition that doesn't even follow the most important rules that might
otherwise justify its existence.

There is no Pro Tour. It's an illusion.



Magilla