Warm Fuzzy Feeling

[Marian]

I was hanging out at the bike shop tonight having an absolutely lovely
time when I notice that this fairly tall guy with a bit of a gut who
has been wandering around for a really long time. It isn't that big
of a shop and there isn't that much to look at. I mentally class him
as 'window shopper' and ignore him. Since I'm not actually employed
by the bike shop I have the right to ignore customers if I want to.
After a while it's obvious that he's listening in on me explaining to
one of my Sanya riding buddies why mountain bikes normally have quick
release seatposts but road bikes almost never do.

At a pause in the conversation I expect the inevitable "you speak
Chinese really well" that I always get in these situations. Instead I
get "nice legs, did you used to be a pro rider too?"

I'm in the middle of saying "no, just someone who likes bikes" when I
mentally process the "too" that was in that sentence.

We talk for quite a while after that. He never went above Club Team
level (so far very few Chinese riders have) but he did get to the
point where his full time job was riding bikes but so far as I'm
concerned if someone gets paid to ride a bike and doesn't do anything
other than ride bikes then that someone is a professional rider.

And he thought I had nice legs.

:)

-M

[Colin Campbell]

Marian wrote:
> I was hanging out at the bike shop tonight having an absolutely lovely
> time when I notice that this fairly tall guy with a bit of a gut who
> has been wandering around for a really long time. It isn't that big
> of a shop and there isn't that much to look at. I mentally class him
> as 'window shopper' and ignore him. Since I'm not actually employed
> by the bike shop I have the right to ignore customers if I want to.
> After a while it's obvious that he's listening in on me explaining to
> one of my Sanya riding buddies why mountain bikes normally have quick
> release seatposts but road bikes almost never do.
>
> At a pause in the conversation I expect the inevitable "you speak
> Chinese really well" that I always get in these situations. Instead I
> get "nice legs, did you used to be a pro rider too?"
>
> I'm in the middle of saying "no, just someone who likes bikes" when I
> mentally process the "too" that was in that sentence.
>
> We talk for quite a while after that. He never went above Club Team
> level (so far very few Chinese riders have) but he did get to the
> point where his full time job was riding bikes but so far as I'm
> concerned if someone gets paid to ride a bike and doesn't do anything
> other than ride bikes then that someone is a professional rider.
>
> And he thought I had nice legs.
>
> :)
>
> -M

Marian,
Your posts are always entertaining and interesting - thanks for that!

Would you mind telling us how you came to be in China, How long you've
been there, how long you're staying, where you are from, and some of
that sort of data? (A picture of the legs is entirely optional!)

Just to be fair, I was born in Texas, and live in Southern California.
I'm soon to be 64 years of age, and I'm riding more than I ever have
(18,800 km so far in 2007). I've lost about 10 kg this year, and I'm
riding faster and climbing better than I have for a long, long time.

We actually had a good rain here yesterday (I measured 2 inches with my
rain gauge), so I didn't ride, breaking my current streak of 44 straight
days on the bike. I also had streaks of 90 and 165 days earlier this year.
Colin

[Marian]

On Dec 2, 5:14 am, Colin Campbell <cmca...@adelphia.net> wrote:
> Marian wrote:
> > I was hanging out at the bike shop tonight having an absolutely lovely
> > time when I notice that this fairly tall guy with a bit of a gut who
> > has been wandering around for a really long time. It isn't that big
> > of a shop and there isn't that much to look at. I mentally class him
> > as 'window shopper' and ignore him. Since I'm not actually employed
> > by the bike shop I have the right to ignore customers if I want to.
> > After a while it's obvious that he's listening in on me explaining to
> > one of my Sanya riding buddies why mountain bikes normally have quick
> > release seatposts but road bikes almost never do.
>
> > At a pause in the conversation I expect the inevitable "you speak
> > Chinese really well" that I always get in these situations. Instead I
> > get "nice legs, did you used to be a pro rider too?"
>
> > I'm in the middle of saying "no, just someone who likes bikes" when I
> > mentally process the "too" that was in that sentence.
>
> > We talk for quite a while after that. He never went above Club Team
> > level (so far very few Chinese riders have) but he did get to the
> > point where his full time job was riding bikes but so far as I'm
> > concerned if someone gets paid to ride a bike and doesn't do anything
> > other than ride bikes then that someone is a professional rider.
>
> > And he thought I had nice legs.
>
> > :)
>
> > -M
>
> Marian,
> Your posts are always entertaining and interesting - thanks for that!
>
> Would you mind telling us how you came to be in China, How long you've
> been there, how long you're staying, where you are from, and some of
> that sort of data? (A picture of the legs is entirely optional!)

I decided to spend a year overseas between university and graduate
school.

One year turned into a year and a half making a September entrance to
grad school difficult.

Which resulted in moving to Hainan. Which resulted in deciding to
spend 'one more year'.

Which resulted in my deciding to Officially Study Chinese because I
would be embarrassed to go to grad school and tell people that after
three years in China I possessed the incredible ability to tell a taxi
driver where to go and could read most of a simple menu.

Which resulted in discovering my amazing talent for foreign
languages. Four courses of Advanced Accelerated Immersion Chinese
completed in three semesters.

During which time I started biking seriously.

Which is how the bike shop owner told me I _must_ register for one of
the infrequent races we have because if I didn't race there wouldn't
be enough women.

Which eventually resulted in my finding myself in one of 'The Man With
the Colnago Pedals' periodic month long training sessions. (It was a
nearly two year process of discovery from his being 'that older guy
people tend not to argue with' to 'executive coach of the women's
national track team')

Which resulted in my being introduced to the first edition of the Tour
of Hainan.

Which resulted in my being introduced to the Tour of Qinghai Lake.

Which was one of the many causes of my being on the organizing
committee of the second Tour of Hainan.

Which is how I was introduced to the Provincial Sports Academy.

Which is why I agreed to make a phone call to Florida for the Tornado-
class Olympic racing catamaran team. And translate a few emails. As
a favor.

Which is why I got a ten day contract with the Chinese Yachting
Association when the coach from Florida came. A very very expensive
ten day contract.

Which is one of many (many) reasons why I think I'm going to be here
for a very long time.

> Just to be fair, I was born in Texas, and live in Southern California.
> I'm soon to be 64 years of age, and I'm riding more than I ever have
> (18,800 km so far in 2007). I've lost about 10 kg this year, and I'm
> riding faster and climbing better than I have for a long, long time.

I logged 13,000km in my first year riding. I was on track until I
moved to Sanya in May (no one to train with, thus boring) but still
had a chance of at least making 12,000 when the TdQL happened. It's
been all downhill since then.

I'm embarrassed to say that I've had a beautiful custom titanium
Habanero race frame that I home-anodized iridescent purple and
equipped with a mix of Shimano 105 and Ultegra for two months now and
haven't even logged 250km on it yet. Before I started working in the
Chinese professional sports world I was doing between 250km and 350km
a week.

> We actually had a good rain here yesterday (I measured 2 inches with my
> rain gauge), so I didn't ride, breaking my current streak of 44 straight
> days on the bike. I also had streaks of 90 and 165 days earlier this year.
> Colin

Since mid-July, I've gone up to 20 days at a time without riding.

-M

[cyclintom@gmail.com]

On Dec 1, 1:37 pm, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Since mid-July, I've gone up to 20 days at a time without riding.

Well, that can't be good for your conditioning and you probably notice
that every ride now.

But we all go through pressures and changes as time goes by and have
to find time for the bike. In another couple of years I'll be retired
and able to devote more time to riding.

[Marian]

On Dec 4, 10:45 pm, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Dec 1, 1:37 pm, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Since mid-July, I've gone up to 20 days at a time without riding.
>
> Well, that can't be good for your conditioning and you probably notice
> that every ride now.
>
> But we all go through pressures and changes as time goes by and have
> to find time for the bike. In another couple of years I'll be retired
> and able to devote more time to riding.

The truly frustrating part about it all is that when I had absolutely
nothing whatsoever to do with any professional sports of any kind I
was fit and well on my way to becoming really fit.
Now that I am playing a game which I like to call "collect the
sporting associations" I am losing my condition.

Even worse than merely losing my condition I'm now hanging out with
uber-athletes who don't do a very good job of not laughing when
sadistic bastards like Coach Xing somehow manage to convince me that I
should participate in morning exercises.

Sit-ups are bad enough. Sit-ups in front of people who have every
logical expectation of going to the Olympics are even worse.

-M

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article
<ea4aac59-323a-4ff6-9c8e-51931da8cda7@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Marian <marian.rosenberg@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 4, 10:45 pm, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Dec 1, 1:37 pm, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Since mid-July, I've gone up to 20 days at a time without riding.
> >
> > Well, that can't be good for your conditioning and you probably notice
> > that every ride now.
> >
> > But we all go through pressures and changes as time goes by and have
> > to find time for the bike. In another couple of years I'll be retired
> > and able to devote more time to riding.
>
> The truly frustrating part about it all is that when I had absolutely
> nothing whatsoever to do with any professional sports of any kind I
> was fit and well on my way to becoming really fit.
> Now that I am playing a game which I like to call "collect the
> sporting associations" I am losing my condition.
>
> Even worse than merely losing my condition I'm now hanging out with
> uber-athletes who don't do a very good job of not laughing when
> sadistic bastards like Coach Xing somehow manage to convince me that I
> should participate in morning exercises.
>
> Sit-ups are bad enough. Sit-ups in front of people who have every
> logical expectation of going to the Olympics are even worse.

Do it! This is a habit you want to form, and despite what you may think,
you are the one who has nothing to lose, since there are no expectations
upon your shoulders.

Moreover, nothing has been better for me in the past than training with
athletes who were better than me. It's like an accelerated course in
awesomeness, and even if it's sit-ups in the yard each morning, it will
make you great fast.

Also, a morning exercise program is cardio, and will help you maintain
some of your on-bike fitness, as well as giving you some interestingly
useful core strength.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

[Marian]

On Dec 10, 10:34 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> In article
> <ea4aac59-323a-4ff6-9c8e-51931da8c...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 10:45 pm, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Dec 1, 1:37 pm, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Since mid-July, I've gone up to 20 days at a time without riding.
>
> > > Well, that can't be good for your conditioning and you probably notice
> > > that every ride now.
>
> > > But we all go through pressures and changes as time goes by and have
> > > to find time for the bike. In another couple of years I'll be retired
> > > and able to devote more time to riding.
>
> > The truly frustrating part about it all is that when I had absolutely
> > nothing whatsoever to do with any professional sports of any kind I
> > was fit and well on my way to becoming really fit.
> > Now that I am playing a game which I like to call "collect the
> > sporting associations" I am losing my condition.
>
> > Even worse than merely losing my condition I'm now hanging out with
> > uber-athletes who don't do a very good job of not laughing when
> > sadistic bastards like Coach Xing somehow manage to convince me that I
> > should participate in morning exercises.
>
> > Sit-ups are bad enough. Sit-ups in front of people who have every
> > logical expectation of going to the Olympics are even worse.
>
> Do it! This is a habit you want to form, and despite what you may think,
> you are the one who has nothing to lose, since there are no expectations
> upon your shoulders.

Does this mean I have to do sit-ups even when they aren't watching?

> Moreover, nothing has been better for me in the past than training with
> athletes who were better than me.

Yeah, but it's also humiliating.

> It's like an accelerated course in
> awesomeness, and even if it's sit-ups in the yard each morning, it will
> make you great fast.

That's how I made the leap from not coming in last to usually coming
in first. I now know that the older guy who my friends were in the
strange habit of not arguing with is the executive coach of the
women's national track team. When I took his skills class in June
2006 I thought he was perhaps a former racer or something like that.
By the time I saw his World Cycling Center t-shirt I had already
figured on him being a little more than that but it took a long time
before I was completely clear on the matter.

> Also, a morning exercise program is cardio, and will help you maintain
> some of your on-bike fitness, as well as giving you some interestingly
> useful core strength.

I don't like sit-ups. About the only good thing about sit-ups is
flirting with whoever is holding my ankles down.

-M

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article
<3d066af1-a46f-4b28-b656-ecf6069bfd95@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
Marian <marian.rosenberg@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 10, 10:34 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> > In article
> > <ea4aac59-323a-4ff6-9c8e-51931da8c...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Dec 4, 10:45 pm, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Dec 1, 1:37 pm, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Since mid-July, I've gone up to 20 days at a time without riding.
> >
> > > > Well, that can't be good for your conditioning and you probably notice
> > > > that every ride now.
> >
> > > > But we all go through pressures and changes as time goes by and have
> > > > to find time for the bike. In another couple of years I'll be retired
> > > > and able to devote more time to riding.
> >
> > > The truly frustrating part about it all is that when I had absolutely
> > > nothing whatsoever to do with any professional sports of any kind I
> > > was fit and well on my way to becoming really fit.
> > > Now that I am playing a game which I like to call "collect the
> > > sporting associations" I am losing my condition.
> >
> > > Even worse than merely losing my condition I'm now hanging out with
> > > uber-athletes who don't do a very good job of not laughing when
> > > sadistic bastards like Coach Xing somehow manage to convince me that I
> > > should participate in morning exercises.
> >
> > > Sit-ups are bad enough. Sit-ups in front of people who have every
> > > logical expectation of going to the Olympics are even worse.
> >
> > Do it! This is a habit you want to form, and despite what you may think,
> > you are the one who has nothing to lose, since there are no expectations
> > upon your shoulders.
>
> Does this mean I have to do sit-ups even when they aren't watching?

Well...you should. :)

> > Moreover, nothing has been better for me in the past than training with
> > athletes who were better than me.
>
> Yeah, but it's also humiliating.

No! Nobody there expects anything from you. Even participating is big
ups for the Marianator. And I promise never to call you "the Marianator"
again. It's like being the underdog: you have nothing to lose, least of
all their respect :)

> > It's like an accelerated course in
> > awesomeness, and even if it's sit-ups in the yard each morning, it will
> > make you great fast.

> > Also, a morning exercise program is cardio, and will help you maintain
> > some of your on-bike fitness, as well as giving you some interestingly
> > useful core strength.
>
> I don't like sit-ups. About the only good thing about sit-ups is
> flirting with whoever is holding my ankles down.

Er, I usually use a couch. So there you go, your sit-ups are already way
less horrible than mine.

Its upholstery says "no no," but the cushions say "yes, yes..."

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

[SLAVE of THE STATE]

On Dec 10, 10:25 pm, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 10, 10:34 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
>
> I don't like sit-ups. About the only good thing about sit-ups is
> flirting with whoever is holding my ankles down.

If the flirting goes well, the ankles get held the other way.

[Marian]

On Dec 11, 2:48 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> In article
> <3d066af1-a46f-4b28-b656-ecf6069bf...@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,

> > > > Sit-ups are bad enough. Sit-ups in front of people who have every
> > > > logical expectation of going to the Olympics are even worse.
>
> > > Do it! This is a habit you want to form, and despite what you may think,
> > > you are the one who has nothing to lose, since there are no expectations
> > > upon your shoulders.
>
> > Does this mean I have to do sit-ups even when they aren't watching?
>
> Well...you should. :)

B-b-but, no one is watching. And I don't wannnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaa.

> > > Moreover, nothing has been better for me in the past than training with
> > > athletes who were better than me.
>
> > Yeah, but it's also humiliating.
>
> No! Nobody there expects anything from you. Even participating is big
> ups for the Marianator. And I promise never to call you "the Marianator"
> again. It's like being the underdog: you have nothing to lose, least of
> all their respect :)

I dunno. They were laughing at me. There was definitely laughter.
Coach Ma even said something like "see what happens when you don't
train regularly."

> > > It's like an accelerated course in
> > > awesomeness, and even if it's sit-ups in the yard each morning, it will
> > > make you great fast.
> > > Also, a morning exercise program is cardio, and will help you maintain
> > > some of your on-bike fitness, as well as giving you some interestingly
> > > useful core strength.
>
> > I don't like sit-ups. About the only good thing about sit-ups is
> > flirting with whoever is holding my ankles down.
>
> Er, I usually use a couch. So there you go, your sit-ups are already way
> less horrible than mine.
>
> Its upholstery says "no no," but the cushions say "yes, yes..."

You don't have to answer this if you don't want to but, Ryan, do you
do sit ups while drunk?

-M

[Donald Munro]

Marian wrote:
> You don't have to answer this if you don't want to but, Ryan, do you do
> sit ups while drunk?

Its probably the only time he does sit ups. I mean would
you do sit ups while hung over ?

[Ted van de Weteringe]

Marian wrote:
> You don't have to answer this if you don't want to but, Ryan, do you
> do sit ups while drunk?

I do. But that is because I fall over so much.

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article
<bd21466e-516c-4b23-a865-69bd88b9226d@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Marian <marian.rosenberg@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 11, 2:48 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> > In article
> > <3d066af1-a46f-4b28-b656-ecf6069bf...@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > > Sit-ups are bad enough. Sit-ups in front of people who have every
> > > > > logical expectation of going to the Olympics are even worse.
> >
> > > > Do it! This is a habit you want to form, and despite what you may think,
> > > > you are the one who has nothing to lose, since there are no expectations
> > > > upon your shoulders.
> >
> > > Does this mean I have to do sit-ups even when they aren't watching?
> >
> > Well...you should. :)
>
> B-b-but, no one is watching. And I don't wannnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaa.
>
> > > > Moreover, nothing has been better for me in the past than training with
> > > > athletes who were better than me.
> >
> > > Yeah, but it's also humiliating.
> >
> > No! Nobody there expects anything from you. Even participating is big
> > ups for the Marianator. And I promise never to call you "the Marianator"
> > again. It's like being the underdog: you have nothing to lose, least of
> > all their respect :)
>
> I dunno. They were laughing at me. There was definitely laughter.
> Coach Ma even said something like "see what happens when you don't
> train regularly."
>
> > > > It's like an accelerated course in
> > > > awesomeness, and even if it's sit-ups in the yard each morning, it will
> > > > make you great fast.
> > > > Also, a morning exercise program is cardio, and will help you maintain
> > > > some of your on-bike fitness, as well as giving you some interestingly
> > > > useful core strength.
> >
> > > I don't like sit-ups. About the only good thing about sit-ups is
> > > flirting with whoever is holding my ankles down.
> >
> > Er, I usually use a couch. So there you go, your sit-ups are already way
> > less horrible than mine.
> >
> > Its upholstery says "no no," but the cushions say "yes, yes..."
>
> You don't have to answer this if you don't want to but, Ryan, do you
> do sit ups while drunk?

Well, I've never tried, but (shocking admission coming) I really don't
ever drink enough to be properly drunk: two drinks is a big night for me.

My drinking is depressingly like my workouts: more impressive in theory
than in practice.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

[Michael Press]

In article
<bd21466e-516c-4b23-a865-69bd88b9226d@e23g2000prf.googl
egroups.com>,
Marian <marian.rosenberg@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 11, 2:48 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> > In article
> > <3d066af1-a46f-4b28-b656-ecf6069bf...@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > > Sit-ups are bad enough. Sit-ups in front of people who have every
> > > > > logical expectation of going to the Olympics are even worse.
> >
> > > > Do it! This is a habit you want to form, and despite what you may think,
> > > > you are the one who has nothing to lose, since there are no expectations
> > > > upon your shoulders.
> >
> > > Does this mean I have to do sit-ups even when they aren't watching?
> >
> > Well...you should. :)
>
> B-b-but, no one is watching. And I don't wannnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaa.
>
> > > > Moreover, nothing has been better for me in the past than training with
> > > > athletes who were better than me.
> >
> > > Yeah, but it's also humiliating.
> >
> > No! Nobody there expects anything from you. Even participating is big
> > ups for the Marianator. And I promise never to call you "the Marianator"
> > again. It's like being the underdog: you have nothing to lose, least of
> > all their respect :)
>
> I dunno. They were laughing at me. There was definitely laughter.
> Coach Ma even said something like "see what happens when you don't
> train regularly."
>
> > > > It's like an accelerated course in
> > > > awesomeness, and even if it's sit-ups in the yard each morning, it will
> > > > make you great fast.
> > > > Also, a morning exercise program is cardio, and will help you maintain
> > > > some of your on-bike fitness, as well as giving you some interestingly
> > > > useful core strength.
> >
> > > I don't like sit-ups. About the only good thing about sit-ups is
> > > flirting with whoever is holding my ankles down.
> >
> > Er, I usually use a couch. So there you go, your sit-ups are already way
> > less horrible than mine.
> >
> > Its upholstery says "no no," but the cushions say "yes, yes..."
>
> You don't have to answer this if you don't want to but, Ryan, do you
> do sit ups while drunk?

But seriously, do half sit-ups. Leave your lumbar vertebrae
on the deck. Equal benefit, no risk of back strain.
The reason to have good muscle tone in the abdomen is
to maintain good posture. Good posture reduces or eliminates
chronic back strain, and gives the internal organs room to
work. My bible is _Exercise_Without_Exercise by S. Arthur Devan.
My motto is "Vos volo mihi efficio quis?"

--
Michael Press

[Marian]

On Dec 12, 4:29 pm, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Marian wrote:
> > You don't have to answer this if you don't want to but, Ryan, do you do
> > sit ups while drunk?
>
> Its probably the only time he does sit ups. I mean would
> you do sit ups while hung over ?

In the spirit of embarrassing admissions, I've never been hung-over
and have only been drunk enough to vomit twice in my life.

So, I wouldn't know.

-M

[Donald Munro]

Marian wrote:
>> > You don't have to answer this if you don't want to but, Ryan, do you
>> > do sit ups while drunk?

Donald Munro wrote:
>> Its probably the only time he does sit ups. I mean would you do sit ups
>> while hung over ?

Marian wrote:
> In the spirit of embarrassing admissions, I've never been hung-over and
> have only been drunk enough to vomit twice in my life.

That admission will probably earn you an automatic 2 year
suspension from LIVEDRUNK.

[Michael Press]

In article
<46b83f99-8153-4d2f-8a52-058893626625@e25g2000prg.googl
egroups.com>,
Marian <marian.rosenberg@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 12, 4:29 pm, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Marian wrote:
> > > You don't have to answer this if you don't want to but, Ryan, do you do
> > > sit ups while drunk?
> >
> > Its probably the only time he does sit ups. I mean would
> > you do sit ups while hung over ?
>
> In the spirit of embarrassing admissions, I've never been hung-over
> and have only been drunk enough to vomit twice in my life.
>
> So, I wouldn't know.

I will pretend that I did not hear that.
And watch yourself from now on.

--
Michael Press
Chief LIVEDRUNK Qualification Officer

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article <475fc0d0$0$27271$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com>,
Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Marian wrote:
> >> > You don't have to answer this if you don't want to but, Ryan, do you
> >> > do sit ups while drunk?
>
> Donald Munro wrote:
> >> Its probably the only time he does sit ups. I mean would you do sit ups
> >> while hung over ?
>
> Marian wrote:
> > In the spirit of embarrassing admissions, I've never been hung-over and
> > have only been drunk enough to vomit twice in my life.
>
> That admission will probably earn you an automatic 2 year
> suspension from LIVEDRUNK.

Boy is Carl about to be surprised. Do you think anyone will believe I
have a Therapeutic Underuse Exemption?

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

[Marian]

On Dec 13, 3:55 am, SLAVE of THE STATE <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
> On Dec 10, 10:25 pm, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 10, 10:34 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
>
> > I don't like sit-ups. About the only good thing about sit-ups is
> > flirting with whoever is holding my ankles down.
>
> If the flirting goes well, the ankles get held the other way.

Yeah but while having someone hold my ankles up is a great deal of fun
(or at least what goes along with having ankles held up) it doesn't
really help with abdominal muscle tone.

(On the other hand no Olympic athletes to watch and laugh...)

-M

[Marian]

On Dec 14, 6:44 am, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <46b83f99-8153-4d2f-8a52-058893626...@e25g2000prg.googl
> egroups.com>,
>
> Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 12, 4:29 pm, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Marian wrote:
> > > > You don't have to answer this if you don't want to but, Ryan, do you do
> > > > sit ups while drunk?
>
> > > Its probably the only time he does sit ups. I mean would
> > > you do sit ups while hung over ?
>
> > In the spirit of embarrassing admissions, I've never been hung-over
> > and have only been drunk enough to vomit twice in my life.
>
> > So, I wouldn't know.
>
> I will pretend that I did not hear that.
> And watch yourself from now on.

But I vomited twice when I was working with the Tornado team.... !

-M

[Donald Munro]

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
>> If the flirting goes well, the ankles get held the other way.

Marian wrote:
> Yeah but while having someone hold my ankles up is a great deal of fun (or
> at least what goes along with having ankles held up) it doesn't really
> help with abdominal muscle tone.

You could consult the karma sutra. I'm sure you'd find
something there that would help with abdominal muscle tone.

[Michael Press]

In article
<681eab1f-401f-487a-a322-e7323a835b58@b40g2000prf.googl
egroups.com>,
Marian <marian.rosenberg@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 14, 6:44 am, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <46b83f99-8153-4d2f-8a52-058893626...@e25g2000prg.googl
> > egroups.com>,
> >
> > Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Dec 12, 4:29 pm, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Marian wrote:
> > > > > You don't have to answer this if you don't want to but, Ryan, do you do
> > > > > sit ups while drunk?
> >
> > > > Its probably the only time he does sit ups. I mean would
> > > > you do sit ups while hung over ?
> >
> > > In the spirit of embarrassing admissions, I've never been hung-over
> > > and have only been drunk enough to vomit twice in my life.
> >
> > > So, I wouldn't know.
> >
> > I will pretend that I did not hear that.
> > And watch yourself from now on.
>
> But I vomited twice when I was working with the Tornado team.... !

On whom?

--
Michael Press