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Michael Baldwin
12-31-1969, 08:00 PM
Question - Is cyclocross a growing venue in your area?

Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

Steven L. Sheffield
01-03-1970, 09:25 PM
On 12/05/2007 05:28 PM, in article
14619-4757421D-113@storefull-3114.bay.webtv.net, "Michael Baldwin"
<MLB5611@webtv.net> wrote:

> Question - Is cyclocross a growing venue in your area?


Yes ...

From 15 riders 10 years ago to 100 riders 5 years ago, to nearly 200 riders
this year.

SLS
SL,UT


--
Steven L. Sheffield
stevens at veloworks dot com
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ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
double-yew double-ewe dot flahute dot com [foreword] slash

joseph.santaniello@gmail.com
01-03-1970, 09:25 PM
On Dec 6, 1:28 am, MLB5...@webtv.net (Michael Baldwin) wrote:
> Question - Is cyclocross a growing venue in your area?
>
> Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

What's cyclocross?

Joseph

Simon Brooke
01-03-1970, 09:25 PM
in message <14619-4757421D-113@storefull-3114.bay.webtv.net>, Michael
Baldwin ('MLB5611@webtv.net') wrote:

> Question - Is cyclocross a growing venue in your area?
>
> Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

Here in Scotland I would say it is. Still not a big sport, though - niche
even among cyclists.

--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

X-no-archive: No, I'm not *that* naive.

cyclintom@gmail.com
01-03-1970, 09:26 PM
On Dec 5, 6:51 pm, "Steven L. Sheffield" <stev...@veloworks.com>
wrote:
>
> From 15 riders 10 years ago to 100 riders 5 years ago, to nearly 200 riders
> this year.

Steven, have you been out in Mormon City for a decade now?

Ryan Cousineau
01-03-1970, 09:26 PM
In article <C37CB1C0.690FF%stevens@veloworks.com>,
"Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com> wrote:

> On 12/05/2007 05:28 PM, in article
> 14619-4757421D-113@storefull-3114.bay.webtv.net, "Michael Baldwin"
> <MLB5611@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> > Question - Is cyclocross a growing venue in your area?
>
>
> Yes ...
>
> From 15 riders 10 years ago to 100 riders 5 years ago, to nearly 200 riders
> this year.
>
> SLS
> SL,UT

Same here, Vancouver area, and also I think on Vancouver Island. Doesn't
hurt that we have the crazy PNW CX scene just a few hours south to
inspire us.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

Steven L. Sheffield
01-03-1970, 09:28 PM
On 12/06/2007 07:13 AM, in article
bdd5b02d-0ee9-4770-a8ec-12082a801f9d@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com,
"cyclintom@gmail.com" <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 5, 6:51 pm, "Steven L. Sheffield" <stev...@veloworks.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> From 15 riders 10 years ago to 100 riders 5 years ago, to nearly 200 riders
>> this year.
>
> Steven, have you been out in Mormon City for a decade now?


Nope ... Only 6 years; but I got involved with the series about 4 years ago,
and have been told all the stories.

And some of our current crop are doing quite well on the national level, and
not all of them are LDS.

Mitchell Peterson finished 7th overall in the U23 category at the USGP
Cyclocross Series; his brother Chris finished 21st overall in U23 (and
technically Chris is still a Junior).

Kathy Sherwin, who rides for Velo Bella - Kona finished 17th overall in the
Elite women; after spending much of the late summer and fall recovering from
dislocated ribs earned racing a full NORBA series.

Connor O'Leary finished 17th in the Juniors, despite only doing 4 of the 6
races in the series; he has been dominating the Men's B category in the
local series.

And Jon Gallagher finished 9th in the Masters 35+ category, finishing 6th
and 8th in the two Portland races.


--
Steven L. Sheffield
stevens at veloworks dot com
bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est
ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
double-yew double-ewe dot flahute dot com [foreword] slash

Ryan Cousineau
01-03-1970, 09:29 PM
In article
<cd3075e3-0da2-4af7-bc56-6573fe7548bc@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
"joseph.santaniello@gmail.com" <joseph.santaniello@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 6, 1:28 am, MLB5...@webtv.net (Michael Baldwin) wrote:
> > Question - Is cyclocross a growing venue in your area?
> >
> > Best Regards - Mike Baldwin
>
> What's cyclocross?
>
> Joseph

Roadracing + Beer + Mud + cantilever brakes = cyclocross

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
01-03-1970, 09:29 PM
On Dec 6, 10:32 am, "joseph.santanie...@gmail.com"
<joseph.santanie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 1:28 am, MLB5...@webtv.net (Michael Baldwin) wrote:
>
> > Question - Is cyclocross a growing venue in your area?
>
> > Best Regards - Mike Baldwin
>
> What's cyclocross?

It's basically crits for dirty hippies, barflies, and kids whose
moms never succeeded in keeping them from playing in the
mud. You might suck at it, but you'd like it. Actually I think
it's kind of more fun when you suck at it.

Ben

Steven L. Sheffield
01-03-1970, 09:29 PM
On 12/06/2007 11:51 AM, in article
rcousine-80F3FE.10514306122007@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net], "Ryan
Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote:

> In article
> <cd3075e3-0da2-4af7-bc56-6573fe7548bc@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
> "joseph.santaniello@gmail.com" <joseph.santaniello@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 6, 1:28 am, MLB5...@webtv.net (Michael Baldwin) wrote:
>>> Question - Is cyclocross a growing venue in your area?
>>>
>>> Best Regards - Mike Baldwin
>>
>> What's cyclocross?
>>
>> Joseph
>
> Roadracing + Beer + Mud + cantilever brakes = cyclocross


Roadracing + (hidden beer) + mud and/or snow and/or goatheads + cantilever
and/or no brakes + cowbells = cyclocross


--
Steven L. Sheffield
stevens at veloworks dot com
bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est
ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
double-yew double-ewe dot flahute dot com [foreword] slash

MagillaGorilla
01-03-1970, 09:31 PM
Steven L. Sheffield wrote:

> On 12/06/2007 07:13 AM, in article
> bdd5b02d-0ee9-4770-a8ec-12082a801f9d@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com,
> "cyclintom@gmail.com" <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On Dec 5, 6:51 pm, "Steven L. Sheffield" <stev...@veloworks.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>From 15 riders 10 years ago to 100 riders 5 years ago, to nearly 200 riders
>>>this year.
>>
>>Steven, have you been out in Mormon City for a decade now?
>
>
>
> Nope ... Only 6 years; but I got involved with the series about 4 years ago,
> and have been told all the stories.
>
> And some of our current crop are doing quite well on the national level, and
> not all of them are LDS.
>
> Mitchell Peterson finished 7th overall in the U23 category at the USGP
> Cyclocross Series; his brother Chris finished 21st overall in U23 (and
> technically Chris is still a Junior).
>
> Kathy Sherwin, who rides for Velo Bella - Kona finished 17th overall in the
> Elite women; after spending much of the late summer and fall recovering from
> dislocated ribs earned racing a full NORBA series.
>
> Connor O'Leary finished 17th in the Juniors, despite only doing 4 of the 6
> races in the series; he has been dominating the Men's B category in the
> local series.
>
> And Jon Gallagher finished 9th in the Masters 35+ category, finishing 6th
> and 8th in the two Portland races.



If Lance Amrstrong were ever to awake from a coma and be told by the
nurse this was his cycling resume, he would put a shotgun in his mouth
and pull the trigger.

Magilla

Scott
01-03-1970, 09:33 PM
On Dec 6, 11:50 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
wrote:
> On Dec 6, 10:32 am, "joseph.santanie...@gmail.com"
>
> <joseph.santanie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 6, 1:28 am, MLB5...@webtv.net (Michael Baldwin) wrote:
>
> > > Question - Is cyclocross a growing venue in your area?
>
> > > Best Regards - Mike Baldwin
>
> > What's cyclocross?
>
> It's basically crits for dirty hippies, barflies, and kids whose
> moms never succeeded in keeping them from playing in the
> mud. You might suck at it, but you'd like it. Actually I think
> it's kind of more fun when you suck at it.
>
> Ben

That's right... if you suck at it (like I do) you have 1) a built-in
excuse for moderate to poor results, and 2) you don't have to take it
too seriously. Its better NOT to take it seriously, just show up and
get your grin on.

Simon Brooke
01-03-1970, 09:34 PM
in message
<4c00dc12-a890-4702-b3e9-a87eab96671b@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Scott
('hendricks_scott@hotmail.com') wrote:

> On Dec 6, 11:50 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> wrote:
>> On Dec 6, 10:32 am, "joseph.santanie...@gmail.com"
>>
>> <joseph.santanie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Dec 6, 1:28 am, MLB5...@webtv.net (Michael Baldwin) wrote:
>>
>> > > Question - Is cyclocross a growing venue in your area?
>>
>> > > Best Regards - Mike Baldwin
>>
>> > What's cyclocross?
>>
>> It's basically crits for dirty hippies, barflies, and kids whose
>> moms never succeeded in keeping them from playing in the
>> mud. You might suck at it, but you'd like it. Actually I think
>> it's kind of more fun when you suck at it.
>
> That's right... if you suck at it (like I do) you have 1) a built-in
> excuse for moderate to poor results, and 2) you don't have to take it
> too seriously. Its better NOT to take it seriously, just show up and
> get your grin on.

I have never come anything but last in a 'cross race. I think that's a
proud record to maintain.

--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

See one nuclear war, you've seen them all.

Tom Kunich
01-03-1970, 09:37 PM
"Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote in message
news:rr1p25-499.ln1@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
>
> I have never come anything but last in a 'cross race. I think that's a
> proud record to maintain.

Personally I don't see how you manage with all the competition for that
placing.