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Edward Dolan
12-31-1969, 08:00 PM
"tam" <tpsc12248@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> tam wrote:
>>> What a load of drivel these threads are.
>>> Not a clue about the topic.
>>> Recumbent bikes.
>>> Cross posting-blah-blah-blah.
>>> I wish this group could contain the quality of articles
>>> by Ross Lowell-my hero-Greenspeed rider.
>>> A man among men.
>>> Or Bob Dixon.
>>> Drivel drivel drivel.
>>> A real recumbent rider for 10 years.
>>> Tam
>>
>> Complaining does not help, but only encourages the trolls.
>
> Absolutely do not want to do that.
>
>> Posting more on-topic content does help.
>>
> Unfortunately I am rather idle in that respect and worship at the feet of
> my heroes.
> Ian Sims etc although I have a great deal of fabrication knowledge MIG TIG
> brazing
> carbon-fibreglass moulding wheel building etc I do lack breadth of
> knowledge on
> recumbents across the board--I think almost all recumbent owners do.

All of the above is sheer poppycock. Recumbent riders are the most
opinionated bunch of jackasses this earth has ever been infested with. They
think they know everything and in fact most of what they know is simply
wrong.

Ian Sims is one of the biggest jackasses ever to come from 'down under.' His
Greenspeed is the most overpriced piece of junk ever invented. He doesn't
have brains enough to know how to make a good delta trike, so instead he
makes those confounded go-cart tadpoles at exorbitant prices. Aussies have
the good sense not to buy those things. It is only us dumb Americans who do
so.

> The recumbent is always going to be an exotic machine--its always going to
> be bulky
> and heavy.
> Punters do not understand basics like carbon fibre is only half the
> structural weight the other half is resin
> so weight savings are minimal--very easy for a D-I-Y er to work with
> though.
> Astronomically expensive- my present D-I-Y project is going to have £300
> of carbon in it

Recumbents are always going to be expensive because the manufacturers do not
have the brains to know how to make them cheap. Recumbent manufacturers are
amazingly stupid people. Any idiot can make something expensve. It takes
some smarts to make something cheap.

> People like me who commute and travel on them love the best of them to
> bits.
> I am fortunate living in Scotland I can fly to bike heavens like Holland
> Denmark Switzerland
> France and my all time favourite Berlin.

Anyone who rides his bike in a foreign land is as dense as they come. What
are you - a human being or some kind of performing monkey? What an enormous
waste of time to do something like that. When I travel abroad, I do not want
to be cycling - of all things! Jeez, just how stupid can you get!

> I am working on the most complex part of my new trike at the moment the
> front suspension.
> I have built it in steel then when all the geometry has been tested-theory
> and practice are two different things-
> I will build it in alloy and carbon.
> Suspension uses MTB air struts very difficult to get just right--in fact I
> am thinking of going back to fabric in tension
> The improvement of air over fabric is not worth the extra
> complication/weight--the ride comfort is almost identical.
> Tam

Try making something cheap if you want to impress me. Any idiot can make
expensive things (or did I say that once or twice already). Thank God for
Wal-Mart!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Tom Sherman
01-03-1970, 09:27 PM
Edward Dolan wrote:
> ...
> Ian Sims is one of the biggest jackasses ever to come from 'down under.' His
> Greenspeed is the most overpriced piece of junk ever invented. He doesn't
> have brains enough to know how to make a good delta trike, so instead he
> makes those confounded go-cart tadpoles at exorbitant prices....

butbutbut [1], Greenspeed DOES make a delta trike:
<http://www.greenspeed.com.au/anura_main.html>.

[1] Gratuitous gdanielsism.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

Edward Dolan
01-03-1970, 09:31 PM
"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> ...
>> Ian Sims is one of the biggest jackasses ever to come from 'down under.'
>> His Greenspeed is the most overpriced piece of junk ever invented. He
>> doesn't have brains enough to know how to make a good delta trike, so
>> instead he makes those confounded go-cart tadpoles at exorbitant
>> prices....
>
> butbutbut [1], Greenspeed DOES make a delta trike:
> <http://www.greenspeed.com.au/anura_main.html>.

Who would ever have thought that the guru (Ian Sims) of tadpole trikes
(Greenspeed) would ever get into delta trikes? Will wonders never cease!
Maybe Ian Sims is not such a jackass after all!

It looks an awful lot like my Kett Wiesel I must admit, but this is the way
a recumbent trike should look. Deltas have simple steering just like all
other bikes whereas tadpoles necessarily have complex steering which makes
them unstable at speed. Besides, a low to the ground recumbent delta just
looks so much sexier!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota