cold? not!

[max]

it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride. I did switch over
to the Nokian studded tires and wear my Sorels though.

Beats driving, even at midnight, in the woods, with a giant snotsickle
attached to my 'stache.

..max

--
The part of betatron @ earthlink . net was played by a garden gnome

[Scott in SoCal]

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:08:35 -0600, max <betatron@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride. I did switch over
>to the Nokian studded tires and wear my Sorels though.
>
>Beats driving, even at midnight, in the woods, with a giant snotsickle
>attached to my 'stache.

I wonder if Brent has been riding to work the last couple of days?

[John Hines]

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:08:35 -0600, max <betatron@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride.

Take the garbage out, this am, in your pj's while coffee is brewing,
and your hair is wet.

See if it still feels as fun.

[landotter]

On Dec 6, 5:08 am, max <betat...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride. I did switch over
> to the Nokian studded tires and wear my Sorels though.
>
> Beats driving, even at midnight, in the woods, with a giant snotsickle
> attached to my 'stache.
>

So much for that cucumber-chili paleta I was gonna eat later.

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

In chi.general max <betatron@earthlink.net> wrote:
: it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride. I did switch over
: to the Nokian studded tires and wear my Sorels though.

: Beats driving, even at midnight, in the woods, with a giant snotsickle
: attached to my 'stache.

I haven't had the bike out this month... now I feel bad... there is still
some ice on the sidestreets, not sure I wanna go pedaling in chitown just
yet this December...

--
John Nelson
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[Stephen Harding]

Scott in SoCal wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:08:35 -0600, max <betatron@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride. I did switch over
>>to the Nokian studded tires and wear my Sorels though.
>>
>>Beats driving, even at midnight, in the woods, with a giant snotsickle
>>attached to my 'stache.
>
> I wonder if Brent has been riding to work the last couple of days?

Rode my first really cold weather commute this morning. Think it
was a little below 20. Not too bad.

I should have pedaled in yesterday but wimped out because my ice
bike (Nokians and 20W headlight) isn't set up yet. But it seems
I wouldn't have needed it anyways.

Roads around here (W Mass/USA) are usually clear enough for road
tires a couple days after a storm.


SMH

[Scott in SoCal]

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:19:05 GMT, Stephen Harding
<smharding16@msn.com> wrote:

>Scott in SoCal wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:08:35 -0600, max <betatron@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride. I did switch over
>>>to the Nokian studded tires and wear my Sorels though.
>>>
>>>Beats driving, even at midnight, in the woods, with a giant snotsickle
>>>attached to my 'stache.
>>
>> I wonder if Brent has been riding to work the last couple of days?
>
>Rode my first really cold weather commute this morning. Think it
>was a little below 20. Not too bad.

I've been riding my bike to/from the train station all week. It's been
dipping down below 60 at night, so I've been having to wear a jacket.
:)

[Michael]

Stephen Harding wrote:
(snip)
> Roads around here (W Mass/USA) are usually clear enough for road
> tires a couple days after a storm.
>
> SMH

Nice scenery out there.
"Oh the Berkshires seemed dream-like on account of that frosting..."

Last summer I returned to NYS via Massachusetts Rt2/Mohawk Trail (in my cage).
A couple miles before the summit overlooking North Adams I overtook a group of
bio-fueled two-wheelers on a Sunday ride. I followed them up and then most of
the way down, at a respectful distance of course. Seemed to make the trailing
rider nervous; she kept tossing her head to her left every 8-10 strokes, and
turned it even further (apparently to locate the cager she knew was there)
whenever I had drifted far to the inside of a curve, into her blind spot.
Watching the poetry of half a dozen pairs of pumping legs and wig-wagging bikes
to the summit was more entertaining than the music I carried; watching the
descent was surreal.

---
Michael

[Adam H. Kerman]

John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
>On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:08:35 -0600, max <betatron@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride.

>Take the garbage out, this am, in your pj's while coffee is brewing,
>and your hair is wet.

>See if it still feels as fun.

Don't blame the weather. Obviously you need to drink coffee to engage
the brain before doing anything else, including bathing.

Of course you put the garbage out first before bathing. Duh.

The problem with making coffee is that sometimes one needs a minimal
level of brain function to get the proportions correct.

[Gregory Morrow]

John Hines wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:08:35 -0600, max <betatron@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> >it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride.
>
> Take the garbage out, this am, in your pj's while coffee is brewing,
> and your hair is wet.
>
> See if it still feels as fun.


Even my wodka and lunch meat runs to the corner are a chore in this
weather...I have to wear a COAT over my nightie, fer cryin' out loud.


--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking

[Mike A Schwab]

On Dec 6, 12:59 pm, Chicago Paddling-Fishing <j...@ripco.com> wrote:
>
> I haven't had the bike out this month... now I feel bad... there is still
> some ice on the sidestreets, not sure I wanna go pedaling in chitown just
> yet this December...
>
> --
> John Nelson

You need to attend class. Http://www.bikewinter.org/
http://www.icebike.org/

[Kristian M Zoerhoff]

On 2007-12-07, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
> The problem with making coffee is that sometimes one needs a minimal
> level of brain function to get the proportions correct.

That's why man invented pots with timers, so you can set it up the evening
before.

..max has laid a nice guilt trip on me, though; I haven't been on the bike
since before Thanksgiving.

--

Kristian Zoerhoff
kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com

[John Hines]

On 07 Dec 2007 01:48:39 GMT, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:08:35 -0600, max <betatron@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>>it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride.
>
>>Take the garbage out, this am, in your pj's while coffee is brewing,
>>and your hair is wet.
>
>>See if it still feels as fun.
>
>Don't blame the weather. Obviously you need to drink coffee to engage
>the brain before doing anything else, including bathing.

I don't blame the weather. I don't drink coffee, but rather diet
pepsi.

>Of course you put the garbage out first before bathing. Duh.

Or simply stay inside when it's cold outside. Which it is. Cold and
slippery.

[Tom Sherman]

Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
> On 2007-12-07, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>> The problem with making coffee is that sometimes one needs a minimal
>> level of brain function to get the proportions correct.
>
> That's why man invented pots with timers, so you can set it up the evening
> before.
>
> .max has laid a nice guilt trip on me, though; I haven't been on the bike
> since before Thanksgiving.
>
Has lethargy hit the Fox River Valley?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

[Adam H. Kerman]

Kristian M Zoerhoff <kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 2007-12-07, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>>The problem with making coffee is that sometimes one needs a minimal
>>level of brain function to get the proportions correct.

>That's why man invented pots with timers, so you can set it up the evening
>before.

I suppose. Coffee tends to pick up odors, so I never put it out the
night before.

[Kristian M Zoerhoff]

On 2007-12-07, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:
> Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
>> On 2007-12-07, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>> The problem with making coffee is that sometimes one needs a minimal
>>> level of brain function to get the proportions correct.
>>
>> That's why man invented pots with timers, so you can set it up the evening
>> before.
>>
>> .max has laid a nice guilt trip on me, though; I haven't been on the bike
>> since before Thanksgiving.
>>
> Has lethargy hit the Fox River Valley?

I'll be north of the state line on Saturday if you're in short supply.

--

Kristian Zoerhoff
kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com

[barbie gee]

On Thu, 7 Dec 2007, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> Kristian M Zoerhoff <kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2007-12-07, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>>> The problem with making coffee is that sometimes one needs a minimal
>>> level of brain function to get the proportions correct.
>
>> That's why man invented pots with timers, so you can set it up the evening
>> before.
>
> I suppose. Coffee tends to pick up odors, so I never put it out the
> night before.
>

?????
I am speechless.

[Michael]

Scott in SoCal wrote:
> I've been riding my bike to/from the train station all week. It's been
> dipping down below 60 at night, so I've been having to wear a jacket.
> :)


Oh, you're cruel. Next you'll be crowing about how great the surf has been
lately. ;-)

---
Michael

[Adam H. Kerman]

John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
>On 07 Dec 2007 01:48:39 GMT, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:08:35 -0600, max <betatron@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>>it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride.

>>>Take the garbage out, this am, in your pj's while coffee is brewing,
>>>and your hair is wet.

>>>See if it still feels as fun.

>>Don't blame the weather. Obviously you need to drink coffee to engage
>>the brain before doing anything else, including bathing.

>I don't blame the weather. I don't drink coffee, but rather diet pepsi.

You were brewing coffee for your wife to keep harmony in your marriage?

>>Of course you put the garbage out first before bathing. Duh.

>Or simply stay inside when it's cold outside. Which it is. Cold and
>slippery.

I don't know if I'd want garbage men coming in the house.

[Tom Sherman]

Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
> On 2007-12-07, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:
>> Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
>>> On 2007-12-07, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>> The problem with making coffee is that sometimes one needs a minimal
>>>> level of brain function to get the proportions correct.
>>> That's why man invented pots with timers, so you can set it up the evening
>>> before.
>>>
>>> .max has laid a nice guilt trip on me, though; I haven't been on the bike
>>> since before Thanksgiving.
>>>
>> Has lethargy hit the Fox River Valley?
>
> I'll be north of the state line on Saturday if you're in short supply.
>
FIB INVASION ALERT! ;)

Coming to stock up on some Spotted Cow?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

[Kristian M Zoerhoff]

On 2007-12-07, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:
> Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
>> On 2007-12-07, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
>>>> On 2007-12-07, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>> The problem with making coffee is that sometimes one needs a minimal
>>>>> level of brain function to get the proportions correct.
>>>> That's why man invented pots with timers, so you can set it up the evening
>>>> before.
>>>>
>>>> .max has laid a nice guilt trip on me, though; I haven't been on the bike
>>>> since before Thanksgiving.
>>>>
>>> Has lethargy hit the Fox River Valley?
>>
>> I'll be north of the state line on Saturday if you're in short supply.
>>
> FIB INVASION ALERT! ;)
>
> Coming to stock up on some Spotted Cow?

I should, now that you mention it. Some Point wouldn't hurt, either.

I also need to schedule a run to Michigan for some Bell's one of these days.

--

Kristian Zoerhoff
kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com

[Scott in SoCal]

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:46:47 -0600, Tom Sherman
<sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:

>Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
>> On 2007-12-07, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
>>>> On 2007-12-07, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>> The problem with making coffee is that sometimes one needs a minimal
>>>>> level of brain function to get the proportions correct.
>>>> That's why man invented pots with timers, so you can set it up the evening
>>>> before.
>>>>
>>>> .max has laid a nice guilt trip on me, though; I haven't been on the bike
>>>> since before Thanksgiving.
>>>>
>>> Has lethargy hit the Fox River Valley?
>>
>> I'll be north of the state line on Saturday if you're in short supply.
>>
>FIB INVASION ALERT! ;)

Is that what Cheeseheads call Illinoisians? "Focking Illinois
Bastards??" :)

[Tom Sherman]

Scott in SoCal wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:46:47 -0600, Tom Sherman
> <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
>>> On 2007-12-07, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
>>>>> On 2007-12-07, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The problem with making coffee is that sometimes one needs a minimal
>>>>>> level of brain function to get the proportions correct.
>>>>> That's why man invented pots with timers, so you can set it up the evening
>>>>> before.
>>>>>
>>>>> .max has laid a nice guilt trip on me, though; I haven't been on the bike
>>>>> since before Thanksgiving.
>>>>>
>>>> Has lethargy hit the Fox River Valley?
>>> I'll be north of the state line on Saturday if you're in short supply.
>>>
>> FIB INVASION ALERT! ;)
>
> Is that what Cheeseheads call Illinoisians? "Focking Illinois
> Bastards??" :)

Or some variation thereof.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

[John Hines]

On 07 Dec 2007 08:51:10 GMT, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
>>On 07 Dec 2007 01:48:39 GMT, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
>>>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:08:35 -0600, max <betatron@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride.
>
>>>>Take the garbage out, this am, in your pj's while coffee is brewing,
>>>>and your hair is wet.
>
>>>>See if it still feels as fun.
>
>>>Don't blame the weather. Obviously you need to drink coffee to engage
>>>the brain before doing anything else, including bathing.
>
>>I don't blame the weather. I don't drink coffee, but rather diet pepsi.
>
>You were brewing coffee for your wife to keep harmony in your marriage?

When I get married, the girl doesn't drink coffee either. Drinking
coffee is not universal, although it seems like it.

[Adam H. Kerman]

barbie gee <barbie.gee@NOSESPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 7 Dec 2007, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Kristian M Zoerhoff <kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>On 2007-12-07, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>>>>The problem with making coffee is that sometimes one needs a minimal
>>>>level of brain function to get the proportions correct.

>>>That's why man invented pots with timers, so you can set it up the evening
>>>before.

>>I suppose. Coffee tends to pick up odors, so I never put it out the
>>night before.

>?????
>I am speechless.

I suppose your kitchen has no odors. Mine smells like garlic much of the
time. I like garlic a lot; not in my coffee.

[Scott in SoCal]

On 07 Dec 2007 13:25:07 GMT, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>barbie gee <barbie.gee@NOSESPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 7 Dec 2007, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>Kristian M Zoerhoff <kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>On 2007-12-07, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>The problem with making coffee is that sometimes one needs a minimal
>>>>>level of brain function to get the proportions correct.
>
>>>>That's why man invented pots with timers, so you can set it up the evening
>>>>before.
>
>>>I suppose. Coffee tends to pick up odors, so I never put it out the
>>>night before.
>
>>?????
>>I am speechless.
>
>I suppose your kitchen has no odors. Mine smells like garlic much of the
>time.

Are you fumigating for vampires?

[Bruce Esquibel]

In chi.general Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

:>?????
:>I am speechless.

: I suppose your kitchen has no odors. Mine smells like garlic much of the
: time. I like garlic a lot; not in my coffee.


I don't think those machines are a good idea in general, kitchen odors or
not.

When one of our $15 Mr.Coffee machines bit it, we figured to splurge a bit
and bought one of the $250 Militas (or something), besides the timers it had
a basket for beans, would grind "fresh" and brew at whatever time it was set
to.

Between the beans and water sitting out in the open all night, it just
didn't make good coffee. Always tasted stale or flat.

So we're back to the $15 Mr.Coffee ones.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

[clifto]

John Hines wrote:
> On 07 Dec 2007 08:51:10 GMT, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
>>>On 07 Dec 2007 01:48:39 GMT, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
>>>>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:08:35 -0600, max <betatron@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride.
>>
>>>>>Take the garbage out, this am, in your pj's while coffee is brewing,
>>>>>and your hair is wet.
>>
>>>>>See if it still feels as fun.
>>
>>>>Don't blame the weather. Obviously you need to drink coffee to engage
>>>>the brain before doing anything else, including bathing.
>>
>>>I don't blame the weather. I don't drink coffee, but rather diet pepsi.
>>
>>You were brewing coffee for your wife to keep harmony in your marriage?
>
> When I get married, the girl doesn't drink coffee either. Drinking
> coffee is not universal, although it seems like it.

I used to drink at least six cups a day, and 20 cups wasn't unusual. But
in the entire 18 months or so since I quit smoking, I've had three cups
of coffee. Coffee just goes with a cigarette.

--
Dec. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Government officials and activists flying to Bali,
Indonesia, for the United Nations meeting on climate change will cause
as much pollution as 20,000 cars in a year.

[Adam H. Kerman]

John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
>On 07 Dec 2007 08:51:10 GMT, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>>John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
>>>On 07 Dec 2007 01:48:39 GMT, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
>>>>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:08:35 -0600, max <betatron@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride.
>>
>>>>>Take the garbage out, this am, in your pj's while coffee is brewing,
>>>>>and your hair is wet.
>>
>>>>>See if it still feels as fun.
>>
>>>>Don't blame the weather. Obviously you need to drink coffee to engage
>>>>the brain before doing anything else, including bathing.
>>
>>>I don't blame the weather. I don't drink coffee, but rather diet pepsi.
>>
>>You were brewing coffee for your wife to keep harmony in your marriage?
>
>When I get married, the girl doesn't drink coffee either. Drinking
>coffee is not universal, although it seems like it.

So who was the coffee for, the dog?

[Cydrome Leader]

In chi.general Bruce Esquibel <bje@e4500.ripco.com> wrote:
> In chi.general Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>
> :>?????
> :>I am speechless.
>
> : I suppose your kitchen has no odors. Mine smells like garlic much of the
> : time. I like garlic a lot; not in my coffee.
>
>
> I don't think those machines are a good idea in general, kitchen odors or
> not.
>
> When one of our $15 Mr.Coffee machines bit it, we figured to splurge a bit
> and bought one of the $250 Militas (or something), besides the timers it had
> a basket for beans, would grind "fresh" and brew at whatever time it was set

I think the issue is those things can never be cleaned out. There's always
old stuff left in there.


> Between the beans and water sitting out in the open all night, it just
> didn't make good coffee. Always tasted stale or flat.
>
> So we're back to the $15 Mr.Coffee ones.

just don't let the place burn down. I'm amused by the coffe machines that
literally have no off switch and are always in some sort of heating/fire
mode.

[max]

In article <hmoo25-tpj.ln1@remote.clifto.com>,
clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:

> John Hines wrote:
> > On 07 Dec 2007 08:51:10 GMT, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
> >>>On 07 Dec 2007 01:48:39 GMT, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>>>John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
> >>>>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:08:35 -0600, max <betatron@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride.
> >>
> >>>>>Take the garbage out, this am, in your pj's while coffee is brewing,
> >>>>>and your hair is wet.
> >>
> >>>>>See if it still feels as fun.
> >>
> >>>>Don't blame the weather. Obviously you need to drink coffee to engage
> >>>>the brain before doing anything else, including bathing.
> >>
> >>>I don't blame the weather. I don't drink coffee, but rather diet pepsi.
> >>
> >>You were brewing coffee for your wife to keep harmony in your marriage?
> >
> > When I get married, the girl doesn't drink coffee either. Drinking
> > coffee is not universal, although it seems like it.
>
> I used to drink at least six cups a day, and 20 cups wasn't unusual. But
> in the entire 18 months or so since I quit smoking, I've had three cups
> of coffee. Coffee just goes with a cigarette.

TEM!

..max

--
The part of betatron @ earthlink . net was played by a garden gnome

[max]

In article <hmoo25-tpj.ln1@remote.clifto.com>,
clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> But
> in the entire 18 months or so since I quit smoking,

BTW, congratulations on quitting.

Didja gain weight? I packed on about 25 pounds in the subsequent two
years, and it's taken an unholy amount of excercise and dietary
retooling to make it go away.

..max

--
The part of betatron @ earthlink . net was played by a garden gnome

[Ron T.]

"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hmoo25-tpj.ln1@remote.clifto.com...

>
> I used to drink at least six cups a day, and 20 cups wasn't unusual. But
> in the entire 18 months or so since I quit smoking, I've had three cups
> of coffee. Coffee just goes with a cigarette.
>

How'd you quit, Clifto?

I did Welbutrin XL the last time. It "seemed' tp work Ok. I mean, I quit for
quite awhile, but relapsed.

The two side effects I had were poor sleep, and a constant hyper-libido. I
was waking #4 up about every other night for sex, and then again the
following day.

Doc suggested chantix to me this time but the side effect stories have got
me pretty well scared out of that.

[John Hines]

On 07 Dec 2007 22:56:11 GMT, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
>>On 07 Dec 2007 08:51:10 GMT, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
>>>>On 07 Dec 2007 01:48:39 GMT, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>John Hines <john@jhines.org> wrote:
>>>>>>On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:08:35 -0600, max <betatron@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>it's all in the layers. 0 F last night. fun ride.
>>>
>>>>>>Take the garbage out, this am, in your pj's while coffee is brewing,
>>>>>>and your hair is wet.
>>>
>>>>>>See if it still feels as fun.
>>>
>>>>>Don't blame the weather. Obviously you need to drink coffee to engage
>>>>>the brain before doing anything else, including bathing.
>>>
>>>>I don't blame the weather. I don't drink coffee, but rather diet pepsi.
>>>
>>>You were brewing coffee for your wife to keep harmony in your marriage?
>>
>>When I get married, the girl doesn't drink coffee either. Drinking
>>coffee is not universal, although it seems like it.
>
>So who was the coffee for, the dog?

You got me, there was no actual coffee involved. I changed it, since
scooping up bird crap and uneaten food off the bottom of the cage, and
feeding to the critters outside probably isn't nearly as familar to
the audience.

[clifto]

max wrote:
> clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
>> But
>> in the entire 18 months or so since I quit smoking,
>
> BTW, congratulations on quitting.
>
> Didja gain weight? I packed on about 25 pounds in the subsequent two
> years, and it's taken an unholy amount of excercise and dietary
> retooling to make it go away.

Similar story here. But the weight ran my blood sugar up enough that I had
to hit a drug called Byetta that seems to be curtailing my appetite and
helping me lose weight. It's the kind of a drug you really really really
need a prescription plan (or a rich uncle) to use.

--
Dec. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Government officials and activists flying to Bali,
Indonesia, for the United Nations meeting on climate change will cause
as much pollution as 20,000 cars in a year.

[Scott in SoCal]

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:38:40 GMT, Michael <NoSpam@gmail.com> wrote:

>Scott in SoCal wrote:
>> I've been riding my bike to/from the train station all week. It's been
>> dipping down below 60 at night, so I've been having to wear a jacket.
>> :)
>
>Oh, you're cruel. Next you'll be crowing about how great the surf has been
>lately. ;-)

Actually, it HAS been rather tubular lately - at least at
well-exposed, south-facing beaches. :) :)

SoCal: One of the few places in the world where you can see both a
surf forecast AND a ski forecast on the same local TV news channel on
the same day. ;)

[marian.rosenberg@gmail.com]

On Dec 8, 10:38 pm, Michael <NoS...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Scott in SoCal wrote:
> > I've been riding my bike to/from the train station all week. It's been
> > dipping down below 60 at night, so I've been having to wear a jacket.
> > :)
>
> Oh, you're cruel. Next you'll be crowing about how great the surf has been
> lately. ;-)

In fact I was hoping to go surfing before the end of the year but my
boss has gone and sent me to Beijing.

It snowed yesterday.

-M

[Jym Dyer]

> In fact I was hoping to go surfing before the end of the year but my
> boss has gone and sent me to Beijing.

=v= Great place to bike.
<_Jym_>