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Edward Dolan
12-31-1969, 08:00 PM
"Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in message
news:01dbdc06-9429-4530-ae09-b49819c2139a@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Sherman could use a little self-awareness: according to Google,
> through the morning of 12/9/07 the pencil neck has outposted me on
> Usenet this month by a ratio of over 5.5-to-1. Now, who is it that has
> nothing to do?
>
>
> On Dec 9, 7:28 am, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>> > On Dec 8, 11:11 am, billyjoecl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> On Dec 7, 8:40 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >>> billyjoecl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>>> On Dec 6, 8:12 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> billyjoecl...@gmail.com aka Billy Joe Clark wrote:
>> >>>>>> ...
>> >>>>>> I am 6'2" and weigh 320 lbs. I have a worksman PAV3 3CB and I
>> >>>>>> love
>> >>>>>> it. The PAV3 is heavy and well built. The spokes are 11 g[au]ge
>> >>>>>> (big
>> >>>>>> and strong)....
>> >>>>> Is the rim sufficiently strong to allow normal tension levels in
>> >>>>> these
>> >>>>> thicker than normal spokes? If not, they are worse for durability
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> wheel strength than thinner spokes, as they will lose their
>> >>>>> pretension
>> >>>>> at a lesser rim deflection than thinner spokes would.
>> >>>>> The thicker spoke only really helps in fatigue resistance at the
>> >>>>> elbow,
>> >>>>> which is why higher quality spokes are butted, to allow for a
>> >>>>> higher
>> >>>>> strain in the straight portion of the spoke.
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
>> >>>>> "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when
>> >>>>> temperature
>> >>>>> differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can
>> >>>>> impart
>> >>>>> excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter
>> >>>> The rims are 50% thicker than normal rims. I've heard nothing but
>> >>>> good things about worksman cycles. They have been business 100
>> >>>> years. Go to worksman.com and click on PAV 3.
>> >>> How do the thicker rims compare to "normal" rims in moment of
>> >>> inertia?
>> >>> --
>> >>> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
>> >>> "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when
>> >>> temperature
>> >>> differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can
>> >>> impart
>> >>> excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter
>> >> I am not going to debate this with you. If you wish to debate this,
>> >> contact worksman.com and advise them of your expertise. They may wish
>> >> to employ you in R & D.
>>
>> > In Sherman's case, that would be "Removal & Disposal". ;-)
>>
>> Gee, I see I have a Usenet stalker - Ozark Bicycle who has never
>> displayed any interest in trikes and recumbents looks for my posts on
>> alt.rec.bicycle.recumbents, and then posts a snarky reply to
>> rec.bicycles.tech. Doesn't this man have some customers' bicycles to fix
>> in his garage?

Why are such posts in response to Tom Sherman not appearing on ARBR where
the Great Ed Dolan could deal with them - and this Ozark character too for
that matter? Those who take posts from other newsgroups and then do not see
that their messages get to the original group are cads and blackguards.

Everyone knows that the tech group is composed solely of nerds and jerks,
but that is no excuse for avoiding the Great Ed Dolan. Please note that Ed
Dolan sees to it that his messages get to the relevant cycling newsgroups,
not just ARBR.

One other thing - the above post should have been edited to get all the crap
out of it. Just because Ozark is an ignorant hillbilly does not mean that he
can neglect how his messages look. Frankly, it looks like he **** all over
himself. Clean up your messages before presenting them to the world, you
blockhead!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Tom Sherman
01-03-1970, 09:46 PM
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Ozark Bicycle" TOP POSTED (fixed in this response):
>> Tom Sherman wrote:
>>> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>>>> Billy Joe Clark wrote:
>>>>> I am not going to debate this with you. If you wish to debate this,
>>>>> contact worksman.com and advise them of your expertise. They may wish
>>>>> to employ you in R & D.
>>>>
>>>> In Sherman's case, that would be "Removal & Disposal". ;-)
>>>>
>>> Gee, I see I have a Usenet stalker - Ozark Bicycle who has never
>>> displayed any interest in trikes and recumbents looks for my posts on
>>> alt.rec.bicycle.recumbents, and then posts a snarky reply to
>>> rec.bicycles.tech. Doesn't this man have some customers' bicycles to fix
>>> in his garage?
>>
>> Sherman could use a little self-awareness: according to Google,
>> through the morning of 12/9/07 the pencil neck has outposted me on
>> Usenet this month by a ratio of over 5.5-to-1. Now, who is it that has
>> nothing to do?
>>
> Why are such posts in response to Tom Sherman not appearing on ARBR where
> the Great Ed Dolan could deal with them - and this Ozark character too for
> that matter? Those who take posts from other newsgroups and then do not see
> that their messages get to the original group are cads and blackguards.

Ozark Bicycle runs a small repair shop in Rogers, Arkansas:
<http://www.ozarkbicycleservice.com/>. He advertises 0% attitude, which
leads one to believe he saves up his vitriol for rec.bicycles.*. He has
shown a dislike for anyone with a technical education or a successful
business.

> Everyone knows that the tech group is composed solely of nerds and jerks,
> but that is no excuse for avoiding the Great Ed Dolan. Please note that Ed
> Dolan sees to it that his messages get to the relevant cycling newsgroups,
> not just ARBR.
>
> One other thing - the above post should have been edited to get all the crap
> out of it. Just because Ozark is an ignorant hillbilly does not mean that he
> can neglect how his messages look. Frankly, it looks like he **** all over
> himself. Clean up your messages before presenting them to the world, you
> blockhead!

Ozark is top posting in an attempt to annoy me. What he fails to realize
that while I find top posting incorrect, it does NOT annoy me per se.
However, it will annoy others and make him look like a Usenet dweeb.

Furthermore, he is using Google Groups, which for some unfathomable
reason does not honor the signature separator. Ozark Bicycle is either
to ignorant, lazy or perverse to strip out the signatures by hand, which
makes for messy posts. Furthermore, Google Groups appears to be deleting
blank lines in some places, while inserting extra ones at the top. Why
Google does this is beyond reason.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

Edward Dolan
01-03-1970, 09:46 PM
"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fjhd9o$r76$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Ozark Bicycle" TOP POSTED (fixed in this response):
>>> Tom Sherman wrote:
>>>> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>>>>> Billy Joe Clark wrote:
>>>>>> I am not going to debate this with you. If you wish to debate this,
>>>>>> contact worksman.com and advise them of your expertise. They may
>>>>>> wish
>>>>>> to employ you in R & D.
> >>>>
>>>>> In Sherman's case, that would be "Removal & Disposal". ;-)
> >>>>
>>>> Gee, I see I have a Usenet stalker - Ozark Bicycle who has never
>>>> displayed any interest in trikes and recumbents looks for my posts on
>>>> alt.rec.bicycle.recumbents, and then posts a snarky reply to
>>>> rec.bicycles.tech. Doesn't this man have some customers' bicycles to
>>>> fix
>>>> in his garage?
>>>
>>> Sherman could use a little self-awareness: according to Google,
>>> through the morning of 12/9/07 the pencil neck has outposted me on
>>> Usenet this month by a ratio of over 5.5-to-1. Now, who is it that has
>>> nothing to do?
>>>
>> Why are such posts in response to Tom Sherman not appearing on ARBR where
>> the Great Ed Dolan could deal with them - and this Ozark character too
>> for that matter? Those who take posts from other newsgroups and then do
>> not see that their messages get to the original group are cads and
>> blackguards.
>
> Ozark Bicycle runs a small repair shop in Rogers, Arkansas:
> <http://www.ozarkbicycleservice.com/>. He advertises 0% attitude, which
> leads one to believe he saves up his vitriol for rec.bicycles.*. He has
> shown a dislike for anyone with a technical education or a successful
> business.
>
>> Everyone knows that the tech group is composed solely of nerds and jerks,
>> but that is no excuse for avoiding the Great Ed Dolan. Please note that
>> Ed Dolan sees to it that his messages get to the relevant cycling
>> newsgroups, not just ARBR.
>>
>> One other thing - the above post should have been edited to get all the
>> crap out of it. Just because Ozark is an ignorant hillbilly does not mean
>> that he can neglect how his messages look. Frankly, it looks like he ****
>> all over himself. Clean up your messages before presenting them to the
>> world, you blockhead!
>
> Ozark is top posting in an attempt to annoy me. What he fails to realize
> that while I find top posting incorrect, it does NOT annoy me per se.
> However, it will annoy others and make him look like a Usenet dweeb.
>
> Furthermore, he is using Google Groups, which for some unfathomable reason
> does not honor the signature separator. Ozark Bicycle is either to
> ignorant, lazy or perverse to strip out the signatures by hand, which
> makes for messy posts. Furthermore, Google Groups appears to be deleting
> blank lines in some places, while inserting extra ones at the top. Why
> Google does this is beyond reason.

Tom, I think you and I are the only ones who care what a message LOOKS like.
Most of these Usenet posters are complete slobs and seem not to care at all
about the esthetics of a written message. This comes from a lifetime of
never having read anything except advertising copy in newspapers and on
television.

I am tempted to get sloppy myself, but I simply can't stand to see something
in writing badly presented. I have no talent for ever writing anything
original or particularly well but I would have been a great editor with some
training because I care about how things look.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota