SRAM Powerlock

[John Verheul]

Has anyone here used a SRAM 10s powerlock (renamed from the earlier
powerlink apparently) with Shimano and/or Campy 10s chains?

I've been doing this for years on 9s, want to be sure it'll work on 10s
before I buy a few powerlocks.

[Ben C]

On 2008-01-14, John Verheul <vjohn1020@qwest.net> wrote:
> Has anyone here used a SRAM 10s powerlock (renamed from the earlier
> powerlink apparently) with Shimano and/or Campy 10s chains?
>
> I've been doing this for years on 9s, want to be sure it'll work on 10s
> before I buy a few powerlocks.

I haven't used them, but I have heard on RBT that the SRAM powerlock is
one-time use only.

The 9-speed ones OTOH you can keep opening and closing as many times as
you like and they last the life of the chain.

There is a Connex Wipperman link for 10s chains that's re-usable which
might be a better solution.

[Nick Payne]

I've used the Wipperman links for several years with 10s Campagnolo chains.
Never had a problem with them.

"John Verheul" <vjohn1020@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:478b99d0$0$3579$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> Has anyone here used a SRAM 10s powerlock (renamed from the earlier
> powerlink apparently) with Shimano and/or Campy 10s chains?
>
> I've been doing this for years on 9s, want to be sure it'll work on 10s
> before I buy a few powerlocks.
>

[Scott Gordo]

On Jan 14, 12:19*pm, "John Verheul" <vjohn1...@qwest.net> wrote:
> Has anyone here used a SRAM 10s powerlock (renamed from the earlier
> powerlink apparently) with Shimano and/or Campy 10s chains?
>
> I've been doing this for years on 9s, want to be sure it'll work on 10s
> before I buy a few powerlocks.

I've got a 10 speed KMC chain with a reuseable link (simple plate and
clip). Works fine for me.

[John Everett]

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:19:10 -0700, "John Verheul"
<vjohn1020@qwest.net> wrote:

>Has anyone here used a SRAM 10s powerlock (renamed from the earlier
>powerlink apparently) with Shimano and/or Campy 10s chains?
>
>I've been doing this for years on 9s, want to be sure it'll work on 10s
>before I buy a few powerlocks.
>

After reviewing the responses posted thus far, why don't you check out
Superlinks. There are the old Craig design now being manufactured by
Forster. Unfortunately (for me) they're no longer available in 8-speed
and wider sizes, but are available in 9- and 10-speed widths. Check
out:

http://www.lickbike.com/sectionsublist.aspx?SECTION='0051'&SUBSECTION='150'&SECTIONNAME='Chains'&SUBSECTIONNAME='CONNECTORS'

I've been using Superlinks for years and they are much easier to
unclip than the SRAM equivalents.

--
jeverett3<AT>sbcglobal<DOT>net (John V. Everett)

[John Verheul]

"Ben C" <spamspam@spam.eggs> wrote in message
news:slrnfon78d.pfv.spamspam@bowser.marioworld...
> There is a Connex Wipperman link for 10s chains that's re-usable which
> might be a better solution.

It works with Campy & Shimano 10?

[Ted]

>
> I haven't used them, but I have heard on RBT that the SRAM powerlock is
> one-time use only.
>

I've opened and re-used the ten speed powerlock many times.
There is a trick to opening it though.

[Ben C]

On 2008-01-14, John Verheul <vjohn1020@qwest.net> wrote:
>
> "Ben C" <spamspam@spam.eggs> wrote in message
> news:slrnfon78d.pfv.spamspam@bowser.marioworld...
>> There is a Connex Wipperman link for 10s chains that's re-usable which
>> might be a better solution.
>
> It works with Campy & Shimano 10?

I believe so. I'm still using 9-speed so I haven't tried any of this
stuff.

Try searching the RBT archives for "Wipperman" and where the author is
"Qui si parla Campagnolo".

This is one thread I found:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/3d6be5eb38c38964/c0c3e672058a0999?hl=en&lnk=st&q=#c0c3e672058a0999

[Lou Holtman]

John Verheul wrote:
> "Ben C" <spamspam@spam.eggs> wrote in message
> news:slrnfon78d.pfv.spamspam@bowser.marioworld...
>> There is a Connex Wipperman link for 10s chains that's re-usable which
>> might be a better solution.
>
> It works with Campy & Shimano 10?
>
>


Yes, all 10 speed chain are 5.9 mm now (Shimano, SRAM and Campy Ultra
Narrow.

Lou

[A Muzi]

> "Ben C" <spamspam@spam.eggs> wrote
>> There is a Connex Wipperman link for 10s chains that's re-usable which
>> might be a better solution.

John Verheul wrote:
> It works with Campy & Shimano 10?

in various models, yes
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

[Doug Taylor]

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:04:12 +0100, Lou Holtman
<lholremovethis@planet.nl> wrote:

>John Verheul wrote:
>> "Ben C" <spamspam@spam.eggs> wrote in message
>> news:slrnfon78d.pfv.spamspam@bowser.marioworld...
>>> There is a Connex Wipperman link for 10s chains that's re-usable which
>>> might be a better solution.
>>
>> It works with Campy & Shimano 10?
>>
>>
>
>
>Yes, all 10 speed chain are 5.9 mm now (Shimano, SRAM and Campy Ultra
>Narrow.

You might check out the IRD Snaplink, IMO better than the Wipperman.
The Snaplink is symmetrical - almost identical to the 9 speed SRAM
Powerlink, while the Connex is asymmetrical and won't work with an 11
tooth cog assuming you have one) if you install it upside down.

Why SRAM went with a non re-usable link for 10 speed is beyond me.
Same as why the Connex is asymmetrical.

IRD's link works for both Shimano and Campy:
http://store.interlocracing.com/10snli.html

[Lou Holtman]

Doug Taylor wrote:

>
> Why SRAM went with a non re-usable link for 10 speed is beyond me.
> Same as why the Connex is asymmetrical.

Have you tried to ask them? Maybe there is a reason?

Lou

[John Verheul]

"Doug Taylor" <dtaylor@dreamscape.com> wrote in message
news:2ehno354kjef7e86k25lnhsoejoc7aergf@4ax.com...
> ...while the Connex is asymmetrical and won't work with an 11
> tooth cog assuming you have one) if you install it upside down.

How does one tell if a Connex is upside down? The instructions that came
with it don't address the issue. Yes, I have an 11.

[Doug Taylor]

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:50:34 +0100, Lou Holtman
<lholremovethis@planet.nl> wrote:

>Doug Taylor wrote:
>
>>
>> Why SRAM went with a non re-usable link for 10 speed is beyond me.
>> Same as why the Connex is asymmetrical.
>
>Have you tried to ask them? Maybe there is a reason?

To transfer market share to other manufactures?

Seriously, why would I, who used their product for years on my 9 speed
road bike (and still do on my mtn bike) before I bought a road bike
with 10 speed, want to know why they didn't transfer the concept to
their 10 speed group? I don't care why. I simply liked their idea so
much, I now use a copy cat product that works on a 10 speed.

[Doug Taylor]

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:20:16 -0600, John Everett
<jeverett3@sbcglobal.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:19:10 -0700, "John Verheul"
><vjohn1020@qwest.net> wrote:
>
>>Has anyone here used a SRAM 10s powerlock (renamed from the earlier
>>powerlink apparently) with Shimano and/or Campy 10s chains?
>>
>>I've been doing this for years on 9s, want to be sure it'll work on 10s
>>before I buy a few powerlocks.
>>
>
>After reviewing the responses posted thus far, why don't you check out
>Superlinks. There are the old Craig design now being manufactured by
>Forster. Unfortunately (for me) they're no longer available in 8-speed
>and wider sizes, but are available in 9- and 10-speed widths. Check
>out:
>
>http://www.lickbike.com/sectionsublist.aspx?SECTION='0051'&SUBSECTION='150'&SECTIONNAME='Chains'&SUBSECTIONNAME='CONNECTORS'
>
>I've been using Superlinks for years and they are much easier to
>unclip than the SRAM equivalents.

And less expensive.

Thanks for the link.

[Tom Sherman]

Doug Taylor wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:20:16 -0600, John Everett
> <jeverett3@sbcglobal.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:19:10 -0700, "John Verheul"
>> <vjohn1020@qwest.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone here used a SRAM 10s powerlock (renamed from the earlier
>>> powerlink apparently) with Shimano and/or Campy 10s chains?
>>>
>>> I've been doing this for years on 9s, want to be sure it'll work on 10s
>>> before I buy a few powerlocks.
>>>
>> After reviewing the responses posted thus far, why don't you check out
>> Superlinks. There are the old Craig design now being manufactured by
>> Forster. Unfortunately (for me) they're no longer available in 8-speed
>> and wider sizes, but are available in 9- and 10-speed widths. Check
>> out:
>>
>> http://www.lickbike.com/sectionsublist.aspx?SECTION='0051'&SUBSECTION='150'&SECTIONNAME='Chains'&SUBSECTIONNAME='CONNECTORS'
>>
>> I've been using Superlinks for years and they are much easier to
>> unclip than the SRAM equivalents.
>
> And less expensive.
>
> Thanks for the link.

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--
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"And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
- A. Derleth

[Lou Holtman]

John Verheul wrote:
> "Doug Taylor" <dtaylor@dreamscape.com> wrote in message
> news:2ehno354kjef7e86k25lnhsoejoc7aergf@4ax.com...
>> ...while the Connex is asymmetrical and won't work with an 11
>> tooth cog assuming you have one) if you install it upside down.
>
> How does one tell if a Connex is upside down? The instructions that came
> with it don't address the issue. Yes, I have an 11.
>
>


When the the link is in the lower part of the chain the slot in NOT smiling.


Lou

[Doug Taylor]

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:35:38 +0100, Lou Holtman
<lholremovethis@planet.nl> wrote:

>John Verheul wrote:
>> "Doug Taylor" <dtaylor@dreamscape.com> wrote in message
>> news:2ehno354kjef7e86k25lnhsoejoc7aergf@4ax.com...
>>> ...while the Connex is asymmetrical and won't work with an 11
>>> tooth cog assuming you have one) if you install it upside down.
>>
>> How does one tell if a Connex is upside down? The instructions that came
>> with it don't address the issue. Yes, I have an 11.
>>
>>
>
>
>When the the link is in the lower part of the chain the slot in NOT smiling.
>
And if it is installed the other way, it will skip when engaged in the
11 tooth cog.

[jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org]

Doug Taylor writes:

>>>> ...while the Connex is asymmetrical and won't work with an 11
>>>> tooth cog assuming you have one) if you install it upside down.

>>> How does one tell if a Connex is upside down? The instructions
>>> that came with it don't address the issue. Yes, I have an 11.

>> When the the link is in the lower part of the chain the slot in NOT
>> smiling.

> And if it is installed the other way, it will skip when engaged in
> the 11 tooth cog.

http://tinyurl.com/2popng
-view larger image-

The reason for this odd shape is that if the chain skips with a link
with a straight slot, the compression wave of the forward snap of the
chain as it enters the sprocket could cause the link to compress and
open. I had the misfortune of such a separation on a PowerLink when
my new chain skipped on an old sprocket. Because traffic was light, I
could find the parts of the link lying on the road undamaged and
reconnected the chain.

Jobst Brandt