ot--any surgeons here

[ilaboo]

or any other medical people--reason is that i see not only on the usenet but
others--questions that really should be evaluated and no seems respond to
the ? with any medical expertise.

how do you handle the questions that really need further workup?

example--cool belly --possible abdominal anyuism?
weekness in quads--myastenia gravis?
tennis elbow--who knows

Im a physician assistant now retired

peter

[Pat]

> or any other medical people--reason is that i see not only on the usenet
> but
> others--questions that really should be evaluated and no seems respond to
> the ? with any medical expertise.
>
> how do you handle the questions that really need further workup?
>
> example--cool belly --possible abdominal anyuism?
> weekness in quads--myastenia gravis?
> tennis elbow--who knows
>
> Im a physician assistant now retired
>
> peter

When you worked as a physician's assistant, was spelling important? Why is
it no longer important to you?
>
>

[EasyCompany]

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:57:55 GMT, "ilaboo" <plener2@verizon.net>
wrote:

>or any other medical people--reason is that i see not only on the usenet but
>others--questions that really should be evaluated and no seems respond to
>the ? with any medical expertise.
>
>how do you handle the questions that really need further workup?
>
>example--cool belly --possible abdominal anyuism?
> weekness in quads--myastenia gravis?
> tennis elbow--who knows
>
>Im a physician assistant now retired
>
>peter

First, it's myasthenia gravis, with an 'h', and the symptoms usually
occur in the facial muscles. Drooping eyelid, double vision,
difficulty swallowing.

It can sometimes be treated by plasma apheresis, in which the agent in
the patient's plasma is removed and replaced with donor plasma and
saline. Other treatments include IVIG immune globulin (MG is an
autoimmune disease), and surgical removal of the thymus gland.

I -seriously- doubt that weakness in the quads after cycling a few
miles is MG.

I also doubt that cool belly equals abdominal aneurysm (spelling).

[Veloise]

Peter wrote:
> or any other medical people--reason is that i see not only on the usenet but
> others--questions that really should be evaluated and no seems respond to
> the ? with any medical expertise.
>
> how do you handle the questions that really need further workup?
>
> example--cool belly --possible abdominal anyuism?
> weekness in quads--myastenia gravis?
> tennis elbow--who knows
>
> Im a physician assistant now retired
....

The abbreviation "IANAD" seems appropriate here. Diagnosing via an
internet forum seems to be asking for a malpractice suit. And most
medical professionals are busy enough to not need the extra effort
involved in armchair practicing on UseNet.

HTH

--Karen D.
I'm a city planner, not a doctor

[Leo Lichtman]

"ilaboo" wrote: (clip) Im a physician assistant now retired
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Is a physician assistant someone who works in a hospital place? Mostly, I
have heard people who assist physicians called "nurses." When you were a
"physician assistant," did you make diagnoses, or mainly hand the doctor
things to work with?

[smn]

"ilaboo" <plener2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:7Oijj.4305$YW6.2731@trndny07...
> or any other medical people--reason is that i see not only on the usenet
> but others--questions that really should be evaluated and no seems respond
> to the ? with any medical expertise.
>
> how do you handle the questions that really need further workup?
>
> example--cool belly --possible abdominal anyuism?
> weekness in quads--myastenia gravis?
> tennis elbow--who knows
>
> Im a physician assistant now retired
>
> peter
you get what you pay for. leave it at that and common sense.
sometimes Doctor's are murderers too. but they cannot be sued when they are
backed by medical sector money
some here maybe have experience with that. I am thinking Cancer in
particular.

[ilaboo]

When you worked as a physician's assistant, was spelling important? Why is
> it no longer important to you?

it is but the air forcr ripped it out of me--i used to win spelling bees all
the time

sorry for my typos i actually taught usenet users are tollerant of these
things

no one could read my medical charts and i assure you my patients really
apprciated it--there where times i was asked to write charts to protect
patients privacy



pter
>>
>>
>
>

[ilaboo]

supr thanks to all who responded--really gave me a lot to think about

thanks again
peter

[Pat]

> When you worked as a physician's assistant, was spelling important? Why is
>> it no longer important to you?
>
> it is but the air forcr ripped it out of me--i used to win spelling bees
> all the time
>
> sorry for my typos i actually taught usenet users are tollerant of these
> things
>
> no one could read my medical charts and i assure you my patients really
> apprciated it--there where times i was asked to write charts to protect
> patients privacy

> pter

Peter, your writing isn't "typos." Your writing is practically
undecipherable. People understand spelling mistakes, but I find I spend time
simply trying to figure out what you are trying to get across. That is why
spelling matters. You write "cabish" and mean "capisce" but I sit here
trying to figure what the word is---is it "cabbage"? You write "taught"
which IS a word, but phonetically, you are trying to say "thought."

It is almost as if you are not writing in English. If you were a physician's
assistant, then you ought to have more pride than to spell phonetically and
hope that people can figure out what you mean. You are actually proud that
no one could read the medical charts? Now, that's just scary!

I can't keep it up. I am dropping out from reading your posts. It is harder
to decipher your posts than it is to figure out what the occasional person
whose first language is not English is trying to say. Those are the people
who get "understanding" and "tolerance." Not the people who say they know
better but are simply too lazy to make their posts legible.

Pat in TX

[smn]

"ilaboo" <plener2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:xsvjj.5285$rV6.1898@trndny06...
> When you worked as a physician's assistant, was spelling important? Why is
>> it no longer important to you?
>
> it is but the air forcr ripped it out of me--i used to win spelling bees
> all the time
>
> sorry for my typos i actually taught usenet users are tollerant of these
> things
>
> no one could read my medical charts and i assure you my patients really
> apprciated it--there where times i was asked to write charts to protect
> patients privacy
>
>
>
> pter
>>>
Get out of here. you are a troll lol
Gov't taxes at work here along with token idiot inclusion in the work force.
>>
>>
>
>

[catzz66]

Leo Lichtman wrote:
> "ilaboo" wrote: (clip) Im a physician assistant now retired
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Is a physician assistant someone who works in a hospital place? Mostly, I
> have heard people who assist physicians called "nurses." When you were a
> "physician assistant," did you make diagnoses, or mainly hand the doctor
> things to work with?
>
>

PA is an actual job description.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physician_assistant

I'm not in the medical profession. I have just seen this before.

[Pat]

>
> "ilaboo" wrote: (clip) Im a physician assistant now retired
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Is a physician assistant someone who works in a hospital place? Mostly, I
> have heard people who assist physicians called "nurses." When you were a
> "physician assistant," did you make diagnoses, or mainly hand the doctor
> things to work with?

When I was in the Army, we had lots of them. They are not nurses; they are
mostly diagnosticians, I would say. I remember that several physician's
assistants would be used to see patients at Darnall Hospital at Fort Hood.
Once one made up his mind, he would go to the doctor and get approval for
whatever treatment he wished to use. It was a way to stretch the available
doctors, get quality care to the patients, and see a higher patient load in
a day.

Pat in TX
>
>

[ilaboo]

i had my own clinics, er, did my own lab including xray, filled what
prescriptions where needed, etc--did it all
all of my charrts however where ultimately read by my supervising md--also
major medical studies where done on PA's when we first started the
profession, --i was included in one.

things today are totally different

i was the only medcical person

i worked in very isolated places where md, hospitals where a long way.

hth

pter

[ilaboo]

>
> I'm not in the medical profession. I have just seen this before.

actually i have a NY state license as a Physician Assistant

hth
peter

[Roger Zoul]

"Pat" <Orion@starrynight.com> wrote

> Peter, your writing isn't "typos." Your writing is practically
> undecipherable. People understand spelling mistakes, but I find I spend
> time simply trying to figure out what you are trying to get across. That
> is why spelling matters. You write "cabish" and mean "capisce" but I sit
> here trying to figure what the word is---is it "cabbage"? You write
> "taught" which IS a word, but phonetically, you are trying to say
> "thought."
>
> It is almost as if you are not writing in English. If you were a
> physician's assistant, then you ought to have more pride than to spell
> phonetically and hope that people can figure out what you mean. You are
> actually proud that no one could read the medical charts? Now, that's just
> scary!
>
> I can't keep it up. I am dropping out from reading your posts. It is
> harder to decipher your posts than it is to figure out what the occasional
> person whose first language is not English is trying to say. Those are the
> people who get "understanding" and "tolerance." Not the people who say
> they know better but are simply too lazy to make their posts legible.
>
> Pat in TX

Amen!

[ilaboo]

> no one could read the medical charts? Now, that's just scary!


not really--if you had vd or any other sensitive medical isssue or you just
wanted your provider to hve the info that it's nice to ahve someone that
could write a note that no one could read

i cannot tell becasue of privacy isssues that a lot of people really
appreciated what idid

sorry about spelling and typos

promise to take more care

hth
peter

[smn]

promise to take more care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


When?

[Bill Sornson]

ilaboo wrote:

> actually i have a NY state license as a Physician Assistant

So does Bill Baka.

[Paul O]

Bill Sornson wrote:
> ilaboo wrote:
>
>> actually i have a NY state license as a Physician Assistant
>
> So does Bill Baka.
>
>

I thought Bill was only licensed to practice in California...
--

Paul D Oosterhout
I work for SAIC (but I don't speak for SAIC)