Downhiller Tara Llanes Starting to Walk Again

[spdrecrd]

With the Heart of a Champion, Tara Llanes is fighting to walk again
after a terrible crash at the Jeep King of the Mountains Race...

Well, she's working hard to get back on her feet and back on the bike:
http://pedalpushersonline.com/?CID=1213

[bigjimpack@gmail.com]

Sad when people get hurt "coasting" down a hill. real cyclists battle
on the road in the mountains


On Jan 25, 2:42*pm, spdrecrd <d...@pedalpushersonline.com> wrote:
> With the Heart of a Champion, Tara Llanes is fighting to walk again
> after a terrible crash at the Jeep King of the Mountains Race...
>
> Well, she's working hard to get back on her feet and back on the bike:http://pedalpushersonline.com/?CID=1213

[Tom Keats]

In article <7ed10b01-4ed0-423f-86fe-5ed590caeb30@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
bigjimpack@gmail.com writes:

> On Jan 25, 2:42*pm, spdrecrd <d...@pedalpushersonline.com> wrote:

[ top-posting repaired ]

>> With the Heart of a Champion, Tara Llanes is fighting to walk again
>> after a terrible crash at the Jeep King of the Mountains Race...
>>
>> Well, she's working hard to get back on her feet and back on the bike:http://pedalpushersonline.com/?CID=1213

In some forms of thinking, DHing isn't really
bicycling -- it's skiing on a bike, without snow.

But it's a greater skill than merely "coasting" down
a hill.

As for "real cyclists" -- it's been my experience that
real cyclists tend to mind their own beeswax.

Help people out who need help. Leave people alone who don't.


--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

[Bill Sornson]

bigjimpack@gmail.com top-posted (corrected):
> On Jan 25, 2:42 pm, spdrecrd <d...@pedalpushersonline.com> wrote:

>> With the Heart of a Champion, Tara Llanes is fighting to walk again
>> after a terrible crash at the Jeep King of the Mountains Race...
>>
>> Well, she's working hard to get back on her feet and back on the
>> bike:http://pedalpushersonline.com/?CID=1213

> Sad when people get hurt "coasting" down a hill. real cyclists battle
> on the road in the mountains

Little Jimmy Buttpacker continues his amazing streak of moronic posts.
Besides being hugely insensitive, your comment reveals a complete lack of
knowledge about cycling. (Hint: virtually every downhill cyclist earned
his or her chainrings doing "regular" cross-country mountain biking,
including plenty of technical climbing as well as descending.)

HTHBKIW... BS

[Marz]

On Jan 26, 6:15*am, bigjimp...@gmail.com wrote:
> Sad when people get hurt "coasting" down a hill. *real cyclists battle
> on the road in the mountains
>
> On Jan 25, 2:42*pm, spdrecrd <d...@pedalpushersonline.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > With the Heart of a Champion, Tara Llanes is fighting to walk again
> > after a terrible crash at the Jeep King of the Mountains Race...
>
> > Well, she's working hard to get back on her feet and back on the bike:http://pedalpushersonline.com/?CID=1213- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

DH is very much cycling. IF you'd ever attempted to actually ride a DH
course, at pace, you MAY understand this. The nearest stiff-back
(roadie) example I can think of is racing track. You've seen those
guys sprinting their arse off for two to five minutes around a nice
smooth velodrome. It's one of the craziest things you can do, hitting
speeds of over 30mph on a fixie with no brakes 1inch from the tyre in
front. Now take that crazy arse sprinting action and point it
downhill, off road and remove 80% of the traction, that's DH.
DH requires similar levels of anaerobic fitness as track sprinters as
evidenced by Brain Lopes. A present wolrd class DH rider and prior
member of the USA track team.

[Tom Sherman]

Tom Keats wrote:
> In article <7ed10b01-4ed0-423f-86fe-5ed590caeb30@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> bigjimpack@gmail.com writes:
>
>> On Jan 25, 2:42 pm, spdrecrd <d...@pedalpushersonline.com> wrote:
>
> [ top-posting repaired ]
>
>>> With the Heart of a Champion, Tara Llanes is fighting to walk again
>>> after a terrible crash at the Jeep King of the Mountains Race...
>>>
>>> Well, she's working hard to get back on her feet and back on the bike:http://pedalpushersonline.com/?CID=1213
>
> In some forms of thinking, DHing isn't really
> bicycling -- it's skiing on a bike, without snow.
>
> But it's a greater skill than merely "coasting" down
> a hill.
>
> As for "real cyclists" -- it's been my experience that
> real cyclists tend to mind their own beeswax....
>
Would not skiers with wooden skis be the ones using beeswax? I know some
cyclists use wax as a chain lubricant, but that is usually paraffin with
some petroleum oil mixed in.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
- A. Derleth

[frkrygow@gmail.com]

On Jan 26, 7:34 am, tomke...@bud.garden.local (Tom Keats) wrote:
>
>
> In some forms of thinking, DHing isn't really
> bicycling -- it's skiing on a bike, without snow.
>
> But it's a greater skill than merely "coasting" down
> a hill.

It certainly is a greater skill. But I think it's much different from
skiing. And incredibly riskier, as well.

I've never tried extreme downhilling. But I have two young, athletic
friends who entered downhill races. Each tried it exactly once, and
reported "This is crazy. Far too risky. Never again."

What makes downhill skiing reasonably safe is the (typical) lack of
hard obstructions to run into, the relatively soft surface (compared
to dirt and rocks), and the low coefficient of friction. When you
fall, you don't hit as hard and you don't tumble nearly as much as you
slide. Downhilling on a bike takes away all those "safety features,"
and furthermore straddles you on a hard metal obstacle that can do
further damage.

Yet our society manages to glorify extreme sports like this. It is
crazy.

I think news of this accident should be posted wherever downhilling
equipment is sold. And I think the "bicycling is dangerous" crew
ought to shift their focus from ordinary road riding to this extreme
sport.

- Frank Krygowski

[dgk]

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:26:38 -0800 (PST), Marz
<marzjennings@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jan 26, 6:15*am, bigjimp...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Sad when people get hurt "coasting" down a hill. *real cyclists battle
>> on the road in the mountains
>>
>> On Jan 25, 2:42*pm, spdrecrd <d...@pedalpushersonline.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > With the Heart of a Champion, Tara Llanes is fighting to walk again
>> > after a terrible crash at the Jeep King of the Mountains Race...
>>
>> > Well, she's working hard to get back on her feet and back on the bike:http://pedalpushersonline.com/?CID=1213- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>DH is very much cycling. IF you'd ever attempted to actually ride a DH
>course, at pace, you MAY understand this. The nearest stiff-back
>(roadie) example I can think of is racing track. You've seen those
>guys sprinting their arse off for two to five minutes around a nice
>smooth velodrome. It's one of the craziest things you can do, hitting
>speeds of over 30mph on a fixie with no brakes 1inch from the tyre in
>front. Now take that crazy arse sprinting action and point it
>downhill, off road and remove 80% of the traction, that's DH.
>DH requires similar levels of anaerobic fitness as track sprinters as
>evidenced by Brain Lopes. A present wolrd class DH rider and prior
>member of the USA track team.


I have a velodrome near me and all through the summer they have races
on Wednesdays (late afternoon thru dusk). I often stop by to watch
after biking home from work, and those guys (and girls and juniors)
are really amazing. They do exactly what you say; ride fixies at high
speeds, with no brakes, inches from each other. I've never seen a
crash.

As for downhilling, I was considering one of those "drop you off at
the top of a mountain and pick you up at the bottom" rides. That would
seem really easy and pretty, but I've been told that it is VERY hard
on the hands from constant braking.

[Marz]

On Jan 28, 7:11*am, dgk <d...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:26:38 -0800 (PST), Marz
>
>
>
>
>
> <marzjenni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 26, 6:15*am, bigjimp...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Sad when people get hurt "coasting" down a hill. *real cyclists battle
> >> on the road in the mountains
>
> >> On Jan 25, 2:42*pm, spdrecrd <d...@pedalpushersonline.com> wrote:
>
> >> > With the Heart of a Champion, Tara Llanes is fighting to walk again
> >> > after a terrible crash at the Jeep King of the Mountains Race...
>
> >> > Well, she's working hard to get back on her feet and back on the bike:http://pedalpushersonline.com/?CID=1213-Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >DH is very much cycling. IF you'd ever attempted to actually ride a DH
> >course, at pace, you MAY understand this. The nearest stiff-back
> >(roadie) example I can think of is racing track. You've seen those
> >guys sprinting their arse off for two to five minutes around a nice
> >smooth velodrome. It's one of the craziest things you can do, hitting
> >speeds of over 30mph on a fixie with no brakes 1inch from the tyre in
> >front. Now take that crazy arse sprinting action and point it
> >downhill, off road and remove 80% of the traction, that's DH.
> >DH requires similar levels of anaerobic fitness as track sprinters as
> >evidenced by Brain Lopes. A present wolrd class DH rider and prior
> >member of the USA track team.
>
> I have a velodrome near me and all through the summer they have races
> on Wednesdays (late afternoon thru dusk). I often stop by to watch
> after biking home from work, and those guys (and girls and juniors)
> are really amazing. They do exactly what you say; ride fixies at high
> speeds, with no brakes, inches from each other. I've never seen a
> crash.
>
> As for downhilling, I was considering one of those "drop you off at
> the top of a mountain and pick you up at the bottom" rides. That would
> seem really easy and pretty, but I've been told that it is VERY hard
> on the hands from constant braking.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You should have a go next time you pass by the velodrome, they may
have track bike you can test out. I tried it a few times and it's a
blast. Crashes are rare, but when then do happen they can be pretty
nasty. If you try it, the biggest thing to remember is don't stop
pedaling.

Shuttle or ski lift riding is totally fun, but it's only as easy as
you want it to be. Yes you can enjoy the view and coast all the way
down or you can begin to pedal, add some pace and really ride the
course. The more speed you carry over a downhill course the more abuse
you going to give your upper body. Imagine grabbing hold of a jack
hammer and running it for 10 mins straight, riding a rough downhill
course at speed can give the same hand cramps and forearm pump. I've
seen people crash at the bottom of a downhill course because they were
unable to brake or hold their handlebars any more. They'd lost all
their strength in their hands.

[ZBicyclist]

dgk wrote:
>
> I have a velodrome near me and all through the summer they have races
> on Wednesdays (late afternoon thru dusk). I often stop by to watch
> after biking home from work, and those guys (and girls and juniors)
> are really amazing. They do exactly what you say; ride fixies at high
> speeds, with no brakes, inches from each other. I've never seen a
> crash.

I'm near the Northbrook velodrome, and occasionally watch the races. There
are crashes.

A couple of years ago I was sitting with the friends/relatives of two riders
who crashed -- into each other. It was a very quiet few minutes.

--
Mike Kruger
Say not always what you know, but always know what you say.
Claudius; 10 BC-AD 54, Roman Emperor