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Peter Cole
12-31-1969, 07:00 PM
http://www.bamboobike.org/Home.html

"In this project, we will examine the feasibility of employing native
bamboo for the bicycle frames, instead of the expensive and technically
demanding carbon fiber material, or even the less expensive but also
technically demanding aluminum or chromium-molybdenum steel that is
commonly used to build bicycle frames."

Why does this remind me of the old SNL skit "Fondue Pots for Namibia"?

Andre Jute
01-04-1970, 02:31 AM
On Feb 8, 3:04 pm, Peter Cole <peter_c...@comcast.net> wrote:
> http://www.bamboobike.org/Home.html
>
> "In this project, we will examine the feasibility of employing native
> bamboo for the bicycle frames, instead of the expensive and technically
> demanding carbon fiber material, or even the less expensive but also
> technically demanding aluminum or chromium-molybdenum steel that is
> commonly used to build bicycle frames."
>
> Why does this remind me of the old SNL skit "Fondue Pots for Namibia"?

Actually, I think the Caffee initiative in a continent particularly
short of steelmaking plants is laudable. Compare this confession of
linguistic crimes from an official do-gooder who deliberately confuses
science and political correctness in her pursuit of her religious
fanataticism:

Dr Margaret Chan, Director General of WHO: "Up to now the polar bear
has been the poster child for CC. We must use every scientifically
sound and politically correct mechanism in the book to convince
leaders that humanity really is the most important species endangered
by CC."

WHO is the World Health Organization, a body that about once every
decade gets something right, which in the bureaucratic mess of the UN
is an exemplary record. CC is apparently Climate Chaos. Dr Margaret
Chan tells us she thinks it doesn't matter whether people believe her
as a scientist (if she is -- there is no evidence of it here) or
because she pushes the politically correct guilt button. That makes
her "science" as suspect as the mantras of a swami, and turns her
crusade into one of religion and faith rather than science. People
like Dr Chan are more dangerous to our welfare than Al Qaeda; they
waste vast swathes of money on stupidities like Kyoto, which by itself
consumes enough resources to bring basic health and fresh water and
primary education (the necessary compost for investment to grow in) to
the entire Third World. Al Queda kills a few thousand; Kyoto will fail
to save tens or hundreds of millions with those wasted resources.
Which is the genocide?

At least Mr Caffee shows a few people, who can show others, how to
make transport with available resources. Transport is mobility and a
way to earn money, and travel reduces tribal tensions in a continent
quite ruined by tribal wars. He starts small and leaves off the grand,
empty words which achieve nothing. He'll achieve more than Dr Chan. So
what else is new at the UN?

"You don't have to give a lot. Three Euro buys a poor African a
latte." -- trendy collecting at my front door.

Andre Jute
Bicyclist, skeptic and simonite

unforgiven99@juno.com
01-04-1970, 02:31 AM
On Feb 8, 10:04 am, Peter Cole <peter_c...@comcast.net> wrote:
> http://www.bamboobike.org/Home.html
>
> "In this project, we will examine the feasibility of employing native
> bamboo for the bicycle frames, instead of the expensive and technically
> demanding carbon fiber material, or even the less expensive but also
> technically demanding aluminum or chromium-molybdenum steel that is
> commonly used to build bicycle frames."
>
> Why does this remind me of the old SNL skit "Fondue Pots for Namibia"?

Aluminum production is one of Ghana's biggest industries. I'm sure
they've got some people there who can figure out how to weld the stuff.

bfd
01-04-1970, 02:32 AM
On Feb 8, 9:39*am, Andre Jute <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 8, 3:04 pm, Peter Cole <peter_c...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >http://www.bamboobike.org/Home.html
>
> > "In this project, we will examine the feasibility of employing native
> > bamboo for the bicycle frames, instead of the expensive and technically
> > demanding carbon fiber material, or even the less expensive but also
> > technically demanding aluminum or chromium-molybdenum steel that is
> > commonly used to build bicycle frames."
>
> > Why does this remind me of the old SNL skit "Fondue Pots for Namibia"?
>
> Actually, I think the Caffee initiative in a continent particularly
> short of steelmaking plants is laudable. Compare this confession of
> linguistic crimes from an official do-gooder who deliberately confuses
> science and political correctness in her pursuit of her religious
> fanataticism:
>
> Dr Margaret Chan, Director General of WHO: "Up to now the polar bear
> has been the poster child for CC. *We must use every scientifically
> sound and politically correct mechanism in the book to convince
> leaders that humanity really is the most important species endangered
> by CC."
>
> WHO is the World Health Organization, a body that *about once every
> decade gets something right, which in the bureaucratic mess of the UN
> is an exemplary record. CC is apparently Climate Chaos. Dr Margaret
> Chan tells us she thinks it doesn't matter whether people believe her
> as a scientist (if she is -- there is no evidence of it here) or
> because she pushes the politically correct guilt button. That makes
> her "science" as suspect as the mantras of a swami, and turns her
> crusade into one of religion and faith rather than science. People
> like Dr Chan are more dangerous to our welfare than Al Qaeda; they
> waste vast swathes of money on stupidities like Kyoto, which by itself
> consumes enough resources to bring basic health and fresh water and
> primary education (the necessary compost for investment to grow in) to
> the entire Third World. Al Queda kills a few thousand; Kyoto will fail
> to save tens or hundreds of millions with those wasted resources.
> Which is the genocide?
>
> At least Mr Caffee shows a few people, who can show others, how to
> make transport with available resources. Transport is mobility and a
> way to earn money, and travel reduces tribal tensions in a continent
> quite ruined by tribal wars. He starts small and leaves off the grand,
> empty words which achieve nothing. He'll achieve more than Dr Chan. So
> what else is new at the UN?
>
> "You don't have to give a lot. Three Euro buys a poor African a
> latte." -- trendy collecting at my front door.
>
Hmmm, Dr. Margaret Chan is credited with confronting "the first human
outbreak of H5N1 avian influenza in 1997. She successfully defeated
the spate of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in Hong Kong in
2003. She also launched new services to prevent disease and promote
better health."

http://www.who.int/dg/en/

Seems like she's achieved quite a bit.

However, I agree that Craig Calfee efforts are definitely laudable and
he should be commended!

(Note, there may be bias on my part as I'm an owner of a 1997 Calfee
tetra custom frame and LOVE IT!)

A Muzi
01-04-1970, 02:33 AM
> Peter Cole <peter_c...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> http://www.bamboobike.org/Home.html
>> "In this project, we will examine the feasibility of employing native
>> bamboo for the bicycle frames, instead of the expensive and technically
>> demanding carbon fiber material, or even the less expensive but also
>> technically demanding aluminum or chromium-molybdenum steel that is
>> commonly used to build bicycle frames."
>> Why does this remind me of the old SNL skit "Fondue Pots for Namibia"?

unforgiven99@juno.com wrote:
> Aluminum production is one of Ghana's biggest industries. I'm sure
> they've got some people there who can figure out how to weld the stuff.

South Africa, even under ANC, is a reasonably efficient rapidly
developing economy and has both steel tube and bicycle factories
already, skilled labor and a vibrant investment market. There are other
barriers to 'African bicycles' than frame material.

p.s. I read a cute book from Nigeria on the local steelmaking technique
which began with an admonishment that no women should be allowed near
the kiln to spoil the steel with their feminine spirit.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

unforgiven99@juno.com
01-04-1970, 02:33 AM
On Feb 8, 4:47 pm, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> > Peter Cole <peter_c...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>http://www.bamboobike.org/Home.html
> >> "In this project, we will examine the feasibility of employing native
> >> bamboo for the bicycle frames, instead of the expensive and technically
> >> demanding carbon fiber material, or even the less expensive but also
> >> technically demanding aluminum or chromium-molybdenum steel that is
> >> commonly used to build bicycle frames."
> >> Why does this remind me of the old SNL skit "Fondue Pots for Namibia"?
> unforgive...@juno.com wrote:
> > Aluminum production is one of Ghana's biggest industries. I'm sure
> > they've got some people there who can figure out how to weld the stuff.
>
> South Africa, even under ANC, is a reasonably efficient rapidly
> developing economy and has both steel tube and bicycle factories
> already, skilled labor and a vibrant investment market. There are other
> barriers to 'African bicycles' than frame material.
>
> p.s. I read a cute book from Nigeria on the local steelmaking technique
> which began with an admonishment that no women should be allowed near
> the kiln to spoil the steel with their feminine spirit.
> --
> Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Is "kiln" an African euphemism for "porn stash"? Because I worked at
a place with a rule like that once.

Michael Press
01-04-1970, 02:33 AM
In article <13qpjg2chai9v5a@corp.supernews.com>,
A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

> > Peter Cole <peter_c...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> http://www.bamboobike.org/Home.html
> >> "In this project, we will examine the feasibility of employing native
> >> bamboo for the bicycle frames, instead of the expensive and technically
> >> demanding carbon fiber material, or even the less expensive but also
> >> technically demanding aluminum or chromium-molybdenum steel that is
> >> commonly used to build bicycle frames."
> >> Why does this remind me of the old SNL skit "Fondue Pots for Namibia"?
>
> unforgiven99@juno.com wrote:
> > Aluminum production is one of Ghana's biggest industries. I'm sure
> > they've got some people there who can figure out how to weld the stuff.
>
> South Africa, even under ANC, is a reasonably efficient rapidly
> developing economy and has both steel tube and bicycle factories
> already, skilled labor and a vibrant investment market. There are other
> barriers to 'African bicycles' than frame material.
>
> p.s. I read a cute book from Nigeria on the local steelmaking technique
> which began with an admonishment that no women should be allowed near
> the kiln to spoil the steel with their feminine spirit.

I am in the habit of making up reasons for reports of
apparently unreasonable behavior. The problem with
having a woman around the kiln is that the men take
their mind off steel-making.

--
Michael Press

still just me
01-04-1970, 02:34 AM
On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:24:04 -0800, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>
wrote:

>
>I am in the habit of making up reasons for reports of
>apparently unreasonable behavior. The problem with
>having a woman around the kiln is that the men take
>their mind off steel-making.

Except in the gay steel plants.

Brian Huntley
01-04-1970, 02:43 AM
On Feb 10, 10:14 pm, still just me <wheeledBobNOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:24:04 -0800, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >I am in the habit of making up reasons for reports of
> >apparently unreasonable behavior. The problem with
> >having a woman around the kiln is that the men take
> >their mind off steel-making.
>
> Except in the gay steel plants.

There's one in Springfield.