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datakoll
12-31-1969, 08:00 PM
manger plus de calcium

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/12/health/research/12musc.html?ref=science

alanstew@sbcglobal.net
01-04-1970, 02:50 AM
On Feb 12, 11:37*am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> manger plus de calcium
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/12/health/research/12musc.html?ref=sci...

"So the day may come when there is an antifatigue drug."
And the end of cycling, and every other sport.
Why don't they develop a test for this drug BEFORE it gets released?

ABS

John Tserkezis
01-04-1970, 02:50 AM
alanstew@sbcglobal.net wrote:

> "So the day may come when there is an antifatigue drug."
> And the end of cycling, and every other sport.
> Why don't they develop a test for this drug BEFORE it gets released?

Because they can't ban against every flash in the pan cheat that ever
*might* exist, because you end up with the situation (that happens
occasionally now) where they ban things that either make no actual difference
to performance.

It doesn't _hurt_ the honest ones (or penalise the guilty) - But what it
*does* do is make the group who governs the cheat rules look like idiots when
a bunch of their bans turn out to be nothing more than urban myths.
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Tom Sherman
01-04-1970, 02:50 AM
alanstew@sbcglobal.net aka Alan Stew wrote:
> On Feb 12, 11:37 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> manger plus de calcium
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/12/health/research/12musc.html?ref=sci...
>
> "So the day may come when there is an antifatigue drug."
> And the end of cycling, and every other sport.
> Why don't they develop a test for this drug BEFORE it gets released?
>
If an anti-fatigue drug is invented, it will end up being force-fed to
proletarian workers by overseers who report to the ruling class.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

datakoll
01-04-1970, 02:50 AM
holy frankfurter! offer a food upgrade? the villagers light torchs,
head for the castle.
what sort of arsehole does this? well, I do it. Preload pasta/yogurt,
caffeine, Sobe, 3M and Cliff bars.
zoooooooooooooooooommmm off to walmart. across the county. down the
beach. zooooooooooom try it before yawl hang upside down.
PMP, calcium is tooo large for a vitamin pill. try an anti-acid as I
will now.
avoid osteo

Ryan Cousineau
01-04-1970, 02:50 AM
In article <47b21840$0$13959$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
John Tserkezis <jt@techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote:

> alanstew@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
> > "So the day may come when there is an antifatigue drug."
> > And the end of cycling, and every other sport.
> > Why don't they develop a test for this drug BEFORE it gets released?
>
> Because they can't ban against every flash in the pan cheat that ever
> *might* exist, because you end up with the situation (that happens
> occasionally now) where they ban things that either make no actual difference
> to performance.

In principle, they have: WADA specifically prohibits stubstances that
enhance performance via certain mechanisms. This is effectively their
method of banning, for example, unknown designer steroids, any potential
blood-doping mechanism (they seriously debated banning altitude tents
last year). I think gene-doping is on the list, too, and as yet there
are neither any known cases of a practical performance-enhancing gene
therapy or any attempts to cheat via gene doping.

> It doesn't _hurt_ the honest ones (or penalise the guilty) - But what it
> *does* do is make the group who governs the cheat rules look like idiots when
> a bunch of their bans turn out to be nothing more than urban myths.

Fair enough, but WADA's principles about doping include the idea that
certain practices, although not yet explicitly named or seen, are
clearly banned. If you are in a position to face in-competition testing
and you're worried about a particular therapy being an issue, the time
to talk to your local doping control agency is before it becomes an
issue.

An antifatigue drug, for example, wouldn't necessarily be the "end of
sport" any more than steroids or EPO or autologous blood transfusions
were the end of sport. At worst, it offers the prospect of a dangerous
new way to dope. Kinda like EPO in the wild early days!

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

datakoll
01-04-1970, 02:51 AM
ya know, just because Twinkie or the Eurasian Cycle Thugs aren't
supposed to use performance enhancing substances to earn millions of
dollars from Adididiasa and Viralphone don't mean we can't to
zooooommm over the rockies.
IMLWTH, right?
Do you guys a have a web spider devoted to posts linking dietary
supplements and sports?
or does Google ring you up?
I'm ready for the Sheriff posting a guard at the grocery: ride up? OK,
no 3M no yogurt no Cliff bar...

datakoll
01-04-1970, 02:52 AM
the carrot Cliff bar is anti-fatigue
is the Cliff bar illegal?
there are some who would say the Cliff bar is immoral maybe unfair
but is eating a Cliff bar a criminal act against society?

datakoll
01-04-1970, 02:52 AM
The EurAsian Bicycle Thugs commited a crime against society
The Spaniard did not.
That should clear the decks.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/sports/AP-CYC-Tour-de-France-Astana-Out.html

still just me
01-04-1970, 02:52 AM
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:36:39 -0600, Tom Sherman
<sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:

>>
>If an anti-fatigue drug is invented, it will end up being force-fed to
>proletarian workers by overseers who report to the ruling class.

Doubt it. Drugs cost money. Replacement workers are widely available.
Just push 'em till they drop.

datakoll
01-04-1970, 02:56 AM
here's an effort at visual communication for the logiaclly challenged

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/sports/baseball/14novitzky.html