Sorry, can't resist it

[carlfogel@comcast.net]

http://www.google.com/patents?id=5LZVAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=604372&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

[carlfogel@comcast.net]

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:02:53 -0700, carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:

>http://www.google.com/patents?id=5LZVAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=604372&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1
>
>Cheers,
>
>Carl Fogel

The improved version:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=cwJ2AAAAEBAJ&pg=PP1&dq=641085&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

[John Tserkezis]

carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:

> http://www.google.com/patents?id=5LZVAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=604372&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1

Pretty. Not something to look forward to re-lacing though...

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[dabac]

carlfogel@comcast.net Wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/22ws8j
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel

Intriguing, but wouldn't those nice curves between the innermost cross
and the hub simply disappear as soon as tension was applied to the
spokes?(not that there is anything wrong with desiring a double tied 4X
pattern..)
Shouldn't, at the very least, the ties be angled towards the hub
instead? That would after all provide some amount of force that would
work to retain the curves.
Or are there slots/furrows in the hub that locks the spokes to an
initial radial angle? Or were the spokes simply expected to be made
pre-bent out of the ultra strong material unobtanium?


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[Dan Becker]

In article <3uv4r3hpqd1o89avc9ts6692acan0ssldq@4ax.com>,
<carlfogel@comcast.net> wrote:

> The improved version:
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?id=cwJ2AAAAEBAJ&pg=PP1&dq=641085&source=gbs_sele
> cted_pages&cad=0_1

Looks like the end result of sex to me. Or Medusa. Or sex with Medusa.

Dan

[carlfogel@comcast.net]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:08:35 +1100, John Tserkezis
<jt@techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote:

>carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> http://www.google.com/patents?id=5LZVAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=604372&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1
>
> Pretty. Not something to look forward to re-lacing though...

Dear John,

Beauty may be in the eye of the beholder.

As you suggest, putting that thing together might be a bit tricky.

SpokeCalc would probably start using imaginary numbers to find spokes
of the right length.

But it does show a touching faith in the power of lashing spokes
together where they cross.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

[carlfogel@comcast.net]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:53:16 +1100, dabac
<dabac.34pozz@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:

>
>carlfogel@comcast.net Wrote:
>> http://tinyurl.com/22ws8j
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carl Fogel
>
>Intriguing, but wouldn't those nice curves between the innermost cross
>and the hub simply disappear as soon as tension was applied to the
>spokes?(not that there is anything wrong with desiring a double tied 4X
>pattern..)
>Shouldn't, at the very least, the ties be angled towards the hub
>instead? That would after all provide some amount of force that would
>work to retain the curves.
>Or are there slots/furrows in the hub that locks the spokes to an
>initial radial angle? Or were the spokes simply expected to be made
>pre-bent out of the ultra strong material unobtanium?

Dear D,

I wouldn't dare to try to predict what that thing would do if it were
to spread beyond New Zealand and fetch up on our shores.

If you read through the text of the patent, you'll find that it
mentions a leather tire.

Leather tires were last heard of in 1879, when Thomas Sparrow
explained the advantage of his leathered tires in the lower right
corner of this page of "The English Mechanic":

" . . . they [leather tires] prevent the slipping of bicycle wheels on
greasy roads when wet. Ten years ago when I originated the use of
rubber tires on bicycles [modest devil!] it was found that they could
not be used in certain often-occurring states of the roads in London;
perhaps about sixty-five days is the average in the year that a
bicycle can be ridden safely on London roads with only a rubber tire,
but with the leather tire added a bicycle may be ridden every day in
the 365 with safety."
http://tinyurl.com/2veztt

Since then, London roads must have become much less greasy, possibly
due to spelling the word "tyres".

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

[datakoll]

patents as foundation material to float a fraudulent financing scheme?

[still just me]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:36:22 -0700, carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:

>
>But it does show a touching faith in the power of lashing spokes
>together where they cross.

I think you'd need to do it like alloy "wire wheels" - where the
spokes are actually forged alloy. It would look awfully nice on a bike
with vintage lug work.