Assos

[critposer]

Who buys this stuff? I was looking in the newest CC catalog, they want
$260 for an Assos windbreaker vest. An Assos undershirt is $120 (vs.
$12 for an equivalent polypro undershirt from REI). They have a jersey
for $320.

[SLAVE of THE STATE]

On Feb 26, 12:08*pm, critposer <critpo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Who buys this stuff?

Why folks who want to take it in the Assos, of course!

> I was looking in the newest CC catalog, they want
> $260 for an Assos windbreaker vest. An Assos undershirt is $120 (vs.
> $12 for an equivalent polypro undershirt from REI). They have a jersey
> for $320.

[Kurgan Gringioni]

On Feb 26, 12:08*pm, critposer <critpo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Who buys this stuff? I was looking in the newest CC catalog, they want
> $260 for an Assos windbreaker vest. An Assos undershirt is $120 (vs.
> $12 for an equivalent polypro undershirt from REI). They have a jersey
> for $320.



Dumbass -


The more it costs, the more the Masters Fattie wants it.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

[derFahrer@gmail.com]

the worst is when you see someone wearing the bibs ... on the outside
of their jersey. or without a jersey.

one day I came up one one such guy, and was in a generous mood. I
rode up alongside and said, dude, I'm going to give you some friendly
advice that is worth way more than those shorts cost ...

[Bruce Gilbert]

"critposer" <critposer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:33626814-1e02-48be-b94c-a6152d48e9a7@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Who buys this stuff? I was looking in the newest CC catalog, they want
> $260 for an Assos windbreaker vest. An Assos undershirt is $120 (vs.
> $12 for an equivalent polypro undershirt from REI). They have a jersey
> for $320.

There are a lot of high end bike shops all over the country that move a
bunch of this clothing. Racers are not generally the market for this level
of merchandise. But, I can tell you with certainty that there are a lot of
folks in cycling out there that have the disposable income and enjoy buying
this brand and others like it. The situation is very much the same with
cars. Both the Ford and Porsche will get you to the affair at the same time
on the same roads. Both drivers are correct. Each has a good reason for
driving what they do.

Wear what works for you... I'm just saying that riding naked when there is
slush on the ground is not a good thing.

Bruce

[Donald Munro]

critposer wrote:
> Who buys this stuff? I was looking in the newest CC catalog, they want
> $260 for an Assos windbreaker vest. An Assos undershirt is $120 (vs. $12
> for an equivalent polypro undershirt from REI). They have a jersey for
> $320.

Perhaps Rock should buy Assos (the company that is).

[ilanpsi@gmail.com]

On Feb 26, 9:08*pm, critposer <critpo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Who buys this stuff? I was looking in the newest CC catalog, they want
> $260 for an Assos windbreaker vest. An Assos undershirt is $120 (vs.
> $12 for an equivalent polypro undershirt from REI). They have a jersey
> for $320.

I have two "medium" priced jerseys, they're the best I've ever had.
Given the fact that my typical jersey lasts about 10 years, it's not
too expensive. Basically, they're much better than other companies
plain jerseys, e.g., Pearl Izumi. On the other hand, I like the PI
shorts which seem just as good to me and cost less than half the
price. The Assos winter line also seems like a waste, as their clothes
are too specialized and not modular enough. You can get the equivalent
of their Winter heavy coat by layering an ordinary jersey, arm
warmers, and a vest, for much less money and in a more versatile
format which works for almost all weather conditions from 5C to 35C
(as opposed to the heavy coat which only works for < 10C).

-ilan

[joseph.santaniello@gmail.com]

On Feb 26, 9:41*pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 26, 12:08*pm, critposer <critpo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Who buys this stuff? I was looking in the newest CC catalog, they want
> > $260 for an Assos windbreaker vest. An Assos undershirt is $120 (vs.
> > $12 for an equivalent polypro undershirt from REI). They have a jersey
> > for $320.
>
> Dumbass -
>
> The more it costs, the more the Masters Fattie wants it.
>
> thanks,
>
> K. Gringioni.

I didn't think Assos was THAT expensive. No wonder I didn't realize
how cool it is!

Joseph

[Fred Fredburger]

Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> On Feb 26, 12:08 pm, critposer <critpo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Who buys this stuff? I was looking in the newest CC catalog, they want
>> $260 for an Assos windbreaker vest. An Assos undershirt is $120 (vs.
>> $12 for an equivalent polypro undershirt from REI). They have a jersey
>> for $320.
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
>
> The more it costs, the more the Masters Fattie wants it.
>

It helps if there's a spurious argument that it makes you faster.
Something like "Due to the high thread count, the fabric is especially
heavy causing gravity to give you that extra BOOST on descents."

[Donald Munro]

joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> I didn't think Assos was THAT expensive. No wonder I didn't realize how
> cool it is!

You should get one of these to match your Assos:
<http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2008/reviews/pinarelloprince_fpxcarbon08>

[unforgiven99@juno.com]

On Feb 27, 12:20 am, "Bruce Gilbert" <bgilbertREM...@hal-pc.org>
wrote:
> "critposer" <critpo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:33626814-1e02-48be-b94c-a6152d48e9a7@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Who buys this stuff? I was looking in the newest CC catalog, they want
> > $260 for an Assos windbreaker vest. An Assos undershirt is $120 (vs.
> > $12 for an equivalent polypro undershirt from REI). They have a jersey
> > for $320.
>
> There are a lot of high end bike shops all over the country that move a
> bunch of this clothing. Racers are not generally the market for this level
> of merchandise. But, I can tell you with certainty that there are a lot of
> folks in cycling out there that have the disposable income and enjoy buying
> this brand and others like it. The situation is very much the same with
> cars. Both the Ford and Porsche will get you to the affair at the same time
> on the same roads. Both drivers are correct. Each has a good reason for
> driving what they do.
>
> Wear what works for you... I'm just saying that riding naked when there is
> slush on the ground is not a good thing.
>
> Bruce

Assos isn't the Porsche. It's the $300 jeans you need to wear while
driving it.

[Kurgan Gringioni]

On Feb 26, 10:36*pm, Fred Fredburger
<FredFredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
> Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> > On Feb 26, 12:08 pm, critposer <critpo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Who buys this stuff? I was looking in the newest CC catalog, they want
> >> $260 for an Assos windbreaker vest. An Assos undershirt is $120 (vs.
> >> $12 for an equivalent polypro undershirt from REI). They have a jersey
> >> for $320.
>
> > Dumbass -
>
> > The more it costs, the more the Masters Fattie wants it.
>
> It helps if there's a spurious argument that it makes you faster.
> Something like "Due to the high thread count, the fabric is especially
> heavy causing gravity to give you that extra BOOST on descents."



Dumbass -


Maybe the high thread count causes some microcavitation, forming a
turbulent layer of air around the fabric, making the rider more
aerodynamic, analogous to the dimples on a golf ball.

Yay! ASS.os needs to hire LANCE or maybe the Olympic Team to wear some
of their ****.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:36:36 -0800, Fred Fredburger
<FredFredburger@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:

>Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
>> On Feb 26, 12:08 pm, critposer <critpo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Who buys this stuff? I was looking in the newest CC catalog, they want
>>> $260 for an Assos windbreaker vest. An Assos undershirt is $120 (vs.
>>> $12 for an equivalent polypro undershirt from REI). They have a jersey
>>> for $320.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dumbass -
>>
>>
>> The more it costs, the more the Masters Fattie wants it.
>>
>
>It helps if there's a spurious argument that it makes you faster.
>Something like "Due to the high thread count, the fabric is especially
>heavy causing gravity to give you that extra BOOST on descents."

I've seen defense of it in some Fred Forums where users claim it is
sooo much more comfortable than anything else and the rest of us,
who've never tried it, just can't understand.

[Carl Sundquist]

"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:303f12e7-b9b8-48c3-bf67-256f54f09eec@u72g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

Dumbass -


Maybe the high thread count causes some microcavitation, forming a
turbulent layer of air around the fabric, making the rider more
aerodynamic, analogous to the dimples on a golf ball.

Yay! ASS.os needs to hire LANCE or maybe the Olympic Team to wear some
of their ****.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.
------------------

Both Descente and Nike have already done theat.

[Kurgan Gringioni]

On Feb 27, 2:22*am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:36:36 -0800, Fred Fredburger
>
>
>
>
>
> <FredFredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
> >Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> >> On Feb 26, 12:08 pm, critposer <critpo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> Who buys this stuff? I was looking in the newest CC catalog, they want
> >>> $260 for an Assos windbreaker vest. An Assos undershirt is $120 (vs.
> >>> $12 for an equivalent polypro undershirt from REI). They have a jersey
> >>> for $320.
>
> >> Dumbass -
>
> >> The more it costs, the more the Masters Fattie wants it.
>
> >It helps if there's a spurious argument that it makes you faster.
> >Something like "Due to the high thread count, the fabric is especially
> >heavy causing gravity to give you that extra BOOST on descents."
>
> I've seen defense of it in some Fred Forums where users claim it is
> sooo much more comfortable than anything else and the rest of us,
> who've never tried it, just can't understand.


Dumbass -


omg.

Did you figure out a clever way to flame them?


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

[Tispectrum]

Fred Forums? Your arrogance is unbecoming.

"John Forrest Tomlinson" <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote in message
news:fdeas3lbn5m7bfrtd77akfbg67vrpgdr91@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:36:36 -0800, Fred Fredburger
> <FredFredburger@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
>

>
> I've seen defense of it in some Fred Forums where users claim it is
> sooo much more comfortable than anything else and the rest of us,
> who've never tried it, just can't understand.


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[bjw@mambo.ucolick.org]

On Feb 27, 3:22 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:36:36 -0800, Fred Fredburger
> <FredFredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
> >Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> >> On Feb 26, 12:08 pm, critposer <critpo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> Who buys this stuff? I was looking in the newest CC catalog, they want
> >>> $260 for an Assos windbreaker vest. An Assos undershirt is $120 (vs.
> >>> $12 for an equivalent polypro undershirt from REI). They have a jersey
> >>> for $320.
>
> >> Dumbass -
>
> >> The more it costs, the more the Masters Fattie wants it.
>
> >It helps if there's a spurious argument that it makes you faster.
> >Something like "Due to the high thread count, the fabric is especially
> >heavy causing gravity to give you that extra BOOST on descents."
>
> I've seen defense of it in some Fred Forums where users claim it is
> sooo much more comfortable than anything else and the rest of us,
> who've never tried it, just can't understand.

As an official RBR Fred (after all, I haven't been
keeping track of my yearly miles to keep up with TK)
I have to out myself here. I have an Assos jersey,
some kind of heavy polyester knit long sleeve item.
Pretty sure I got it at a swap meet, because I can't
afford whatever it actually cost. Anyway, I admit that
it is well made and really nice material, sort of fleecy
on the inside. I wouldn't say it was worth four times
more than a typical Voler team kit long-sleeve jersey
though. Never tried any of the legendary expensive
shorts.

I also bought a Assos winter cap as a birthday present
(for someone who lived in the Great Frozen North, where
you need a good hat) and it was quite nice, but at $30 it
was about the only Assos item a mortal could afford. It
probably costs $100 now after what GWB has done
to the $/Euro exchange rate.

Ben
RBR Style Man

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:56:46 +0200, Donald Munro
<fat-dumbass@hotmail.com> wrote:

>joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
>> I didn't think Assos was THAT expensive. No wonder I didn't realize how
>> cool it is!
>
>You should get one of these to match your Assos:
><http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2008/reviews/pinarelloprince_fpxcarbon08>

Man, I wish Assos had sponsored the Postal Service team back in the
day, and that they road a bike like that so I could drop $12K for bike
and "team" kit.

[joseph.santaniello@gmail.com]

On Feb 27, 11:56*am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I didn't think Assos was THAT expensive. No wonder I didn't realize how
> > cool it is!
>
> You should get one of these to match your Assos:
> <http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2008/reviews/pinarellopri....>

No flimsy CF for me. Magnesium all the way!

But with a Prince will I still be allowed to wear my bibs over my T-
shirts? I like doing that because it draws people's attention away
from my Wellgo combi-pedals.

Joseph

[William Asher]

Donald Munro wrote:

> joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
>> I didn't think Assos was THAT expensive. No wonder I didn't realize
>> how cool it is!
>
> You should get one of these to match your Assos:
> <http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2008/reviews/pinarelloprin
> ce_fpxcarbon08>

That's only $5k(US) for the frame. Don't they have anything more
expensive?

--
Bill Asher

[RicodJour]

On Feb 27, 7:24 am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> critposer wrote:
> > Who buys this stuff? I was looking in the newest CC catalog, they want
> > $260 for an Assos windbreaker vest. An Assos undershirt is $120 (vs. $12
> > for an equivalent polypro undershirt from REI). They have a jersey for
> > $320.
>
> Perhaps Rock should buy Assos (the company that is).

I think you're on to something. Michael, pointing proudly to his
family all wearing his branded wear, proclaiming, "I keep my Balls in
Rock hard Assos. Not that there's anything wrong with that."

R

[joseph.santaniello@gmail.com]

On Feb 27, 1:40*pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:56:46 +0200, Donald Munro
>
> <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> I didn't think Assos was THAT expensive. No wonder I didn't realize how
> >> cool it is!
>
> >You should get one of these to match your Assos:
> ><http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2008/reviews/pinarellopri....>
>
> Man, I wish Assos had sponsored the Postal Service team back in the
> day, and that they road a bike like that so I could drop $12K for bike
> and "team" kit.

Why? Your current Postal team full-kit isn't comfortable enough?

I saw a guy wearing Phonak kit the other day. I guess he hadn't
"heard".

Joseph

[Kurgan Gringioni]

On Feb 27, 4:54*am, "Carl Sundquist" <carl...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:303f12e7-b9b8-48c3-bf67-256f54f09eec@u72g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> Dumbass -
>
> Maybe the high thread count causes some microcavitation, forming a
> turbulent layer of air around the fabric, making the rider more
> aerodynamic, analogous to the dimples on a golf ball.
>
> Yay! ASS.os needs to hire LANCE or maybe the Olympic Team to wear some
> of their ****.
>
> thanks,
>
> K. Gringioni.
> ------------------
>
> Both Descente and Nike have already done theat.



Dumbass -


Oh yeah.

My Alzheimers is kicking in.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

[Donald Munro]

joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> But with a Prince will I still be allowed to wear my bibs over my T-
> shirts? I like doing that because it draws people's attention away from my
> Wellgo combi-pedals.

Only if your wear a camelback too.

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:00:04 -0800 (PST), Kurgan Gringioni
<kgringioni@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Feb 27, 2:22*am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
>wrote:

>> I've seen defense of it in some Fred Forums where users claim [Assos] is
>> sooo much more comfortable than anything else and the rest of us,
>> who've never tried it, just can't understand.
>
>
>Dumbass -
>
>
>omg.
>
>Did you figure out a clever way to flame them?

Dumbass,

I tried but they thought it was a compliment.

Thanks,

JFT

[Donald Munro]

William Asher wrote:
> That's only $5k(US) for the frame. Don't they have anything more
> expensive?

Well if the euro-dollar exchange rate continues its current trend your
wish may be granted. Alternately you could go for their magnesium frame
(Dogma, I think; presumably not an allusion to Tugboat).

[joseph.santaniello@gmail.com]

On Feb 27, 6:48*pm, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Donald Munro wrote:
> > joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> I didn't think Assos was THAT expensive. No wonder I didn't realize
> >> how cool it is!
>
> > You should get one of these to match your Assos:
> > <http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2008/reviews/pinarelloprin
> > ce_fpxcarbon08>
>
> That's only $5k(US) for the frame. *Don't they have anything more
> expensive? *
>
> --
> Bill Asher

Dogma FPX lists for $5300. Or buy one with scratches on eBay for
$1499.

Joseph

[joseph.santaniello@gmail.com]

On Feb 27, 7:05*pm, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
> > But with a Prince will I still be allowed to wear my bibs over my T-
> > shirts? I like doing that because it draws people's attention away from my
> > Wellgo combi-pedals.
>
> Only if your wear a camelback too.

Those are cool too. I stopped using mine for a while when the spolier
on my helmet kept getting caught on the hose. Then somebody told me it
was the visor, and I was wearing it backwards. Now I can use the
camelbak again! I wear it under my shirt to be more aero.

Joseph

[William Asher]

Donald Munro wrote:

> William Asher wrote:
>> That's only $5k(US) for the frame. Don't they have anything more
>> expensive?
>
> Well if the euro-dollar exchange rate continues its current trend your
> wish may be granted. Alternately you could go for their magnesium frame
> (Dogma, I think; presumably not an allusion to Tugboat).
>

Maybe there is a website out there that just ranks various frames by price.
What does Sharper Image sell? They're going out of business, maybe I could
get a deal?

--
Bill Asher

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:05:19 -0800 (PST),
"joseph.santaniello@gmail.com" <joseph.santaniello@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Only if your wear a camelback too.
>
>Those are cool too. I stopped using mine for a while when the spolier
>on my helmet kept getting caught on the hose. Then somebody told me it
>was the visor, and I was wearing it backwards.

POTM

[Donald Munro]

joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> Those are cool too. I stopped using mine for a while when the spolier on
> my helmet kept getting caught on the hose. Then somebody told me it was
> the visor, and I was wearing it backwards. Now I can use the camelbak
> again! I wear it under my shirt to be more aero.

An anti-matter version of Fabrizio Mazzoleni.

[Kyle Legate]

joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 27, 6:48 pm, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Donald Munro wrote:
>>> joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> I didn't think Assos was THAT expensive. No wonder I didn't realize
>>>> how cool it is!
>>> You should get one of these to match your Assos:
>>> <http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2008/reviews/pinarelloprin
>>> ce_fpxcarbon08>
>> That's only $5k(US) for the frame. Don't they have anything more
>> expensive?
>>
>> --
>> Bill Asher
>
> Dogma FPX lists for $5300. Or buy one with scratches on eBay for
> $1499.
>
Claim you never received it, complain to Paypal and get it for free!

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:52:34 -0500, "Tispectrum"
<tispectrum@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"John Forrest Tomlinson" <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote in message
>news:fdeas3lbn5m7bfrtd77akfbg67vrpgdr91@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:36:36 -0800, Fred Fredburger
>> <FredFredburger@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> I've seen defense of it in some Fred Forums where users claim it is
>> sooo much more comfortable than anything else and the rest of us,
>> who've never tried it, just can't understand.


>Fred Forums? Your arrogance is unbecoming.

Thanks.

[Mark & Steven Bornfeld]

Tispectrum wrote:
> Fred Forums? Your arrogance is unbecoming.

Is this Tom Kellogg?
I don't recall seeing you posting before here (I could well be wrong.
FWIW (and I've never met John) but I've heard from others who know him
that he's a good guy. If you haven't spent much time on this ng, many
of these pejoratives are meant affectionately.

Steve (just an occasional fred)

>
> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote in message
> news:fdeas3lbn5m7bfrtd77akfbg67vrpgdr91@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:36:36 -0800, Fred Fredburger
>> <FredFredburger@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
>>
>
>> I've seen defense of it in some Fred Forums where users claim it is
>> sooo much more comfortable than anything else and the rest of us,
>> who've never tried it, just can't understand.
>
>
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718-258-5001

[Fred Fredburger]

Tispectrum wrote:
> Fred Forums? Your arrogance is unbecoming.

I'm Fred Fredburger and I endorse JT's message.

[Tispectrum]

No, Mark and Steve, it's Herb, former LIBC member. I know John and his
responses on this ng, so his answer doesn't surprise me. Affectionate, I
think not.


"Mark & Steven Bornfeld" <bornfeldmung@dentaltwins.com> wrote in message
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> Tispectrum wrote:
>> Fred Forums? Your arrogance is unbecoming.
>
> Is this Tom Kellogg?
> I don't recall seeing you posting before here (I could well be wrong.
> FWIW (and I've never met John) but I've heard from others who know him
> that he's a good guy. If you haven't spent much time on this ng, many of
> these pejoratives are meant affectionately.
>
> Steve (just an occasional fred)
>
>>
>> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote in message
>> news:fdeas3lbn5m7bfrtd77akfbg67vrpgdr91@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:36:36 -0800, Fred Fredburger
>>> <FredFredburger@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> I've seen defense of it in some Fred Forums where users claim it is
>>> sooo much more comfortable than anything else and the rest of us,
>>> who've never tried it, just can't understand.
>>
>>
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[dave a]

bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> As an official RBR Fred (after all, I haven't been
> keeping track of my yearly miles to keep up with TK)
> I have to out myself here. I have an Assos jersey,
> some kind of heavy polyester knit long sleeve item.
> Pretty sure I got it at a swap meet, because I can't
> afford whatever it actually cost. Anyway, I admit that
> it is well made and really nice material, sort of fleecy
> on the inside. I wouldn't say it was worth four times
> more than a typical Voler team kit long-sleeve jersey
> though. Never tried any of the legendary expensive
> shorts.
>
> I also bought a Assos winter cap as a birthday present
> (for someone who lived in the Great Frozen North, where
> you need a good hat) and it was quite nice, but at $30 it
> was about the only Assos item a mortal could afford. It
> probably costs $100 now after what GWB has done
> to the $/Euro exchange rate.
>
> Ben
> RBR Style Man
>

As a proud Fatty Master, I have a pair of Assos bibs that I won in a
raffle. I would agree that the fit and material is a notch above your
typical PI or Voler. That said, the pad was designed in a way that
feels fine on the bike but feels like a giant wedgie when you were
walking around.

/dave a

[SLAVE of THE STATE]

On Feb 27, 5:07*pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
wrote:
> On Feb 27, 3:22 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:36:36 -0800, Fred Fredburger
> > <FredFredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
> > >Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> > >> On Feb 26, 12:08 pm, critposer <critpo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>> Who buys this stuff? I was looking in the newest CC catalog, they want
> > >>> $260 for an Assos windbreaker vest. An Assos undershirt is $120 (vs.
> > >>> $12 for an equivalent polypro undershirt from REI). They have a jersey
> > >>> for $320.
>
> > >> Dumbass -
>
> > >> The more it costs, the more the Masters Fattie wants it.
>
> > >It helps if there's a spurious argument that it makes you faster.
> > >Something like "Due to the high thread count, the fabric is especially
> > >heavy causing gravity to give you that extra BOOST on descents."
>
> > I've seen defense of it in some Fred Forums where users claim it is
> > sooo much more comfortable than anything else and the rest of us,
> > who've never tried it, just can't understand.
>
> As an official RBR Fred (after all, I haven't been
> keeping track of my yearly miles to keep up with TK)
> I have to out myself here. *I have an Assos jersey,
> some kind of heavy polyester knit long sleeve item.
> Pretty sure I got it at a swap meet, because I can't
> afford whatever it actually cost. *

Did you pay your sales tax on that or are you a scofflaw/criminal who
poo-poos the grand "social contract?"

> Anyway, I admit that
> it is well made and really nice material, sort of fleecy
> on the inside. *I wouldn't say it was worth four times
> more than a typical Voler team kit long-sleeve jersey
> though. *

Voler is crap. I have thought Giordana was very good for mid-priced
stuff, although I don't know if it is still mid-priced. For the stuff
I bought way-back-when, the quality of basic things like elastic was
apparently excellent in Giordana as it did not break down.

> I also bought a Assos winter cap as a birthday present
> (for someone who lived in the Great Frozen North, where
> you need a good hat) and it was quite nice, but at $30 it
> was about the only Assos item a mortal could afford. *

Dude, you just need to steal more from me. I can bear an infinite
load of parasites, right?

> It
> probably costs $100 now after what GWB has done
> to the $/Euro exchange rate.

It is the FED who has caused that and what executive was in power when
the FED was created, and what was the party of the executive then?

I'm not defending the neo-con propensity to run budget deficits, BTW.
They are ****ing assholes, but so are the mfrs who say tax cuts are "a
problem."

"It is the spending, stupid." -- BF

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:36:29 -0800, dave a
<blkcatREMOVETHIS@gmail.com> wrote:

>As a proud Fatty Master, I have a pair of Assos bibs that I won in a
>raffle. I would agree that the fit and material is a notch above your
>typical PI or Voler. That said, the pad was designed in a way that
>feels fine on the bike but feels like a giant wedgie when you were
>walking around.

Interesting. That supports the theory that Assos offers superior
comfort on the bike, but clearly they haven't taken into account the
critical need for comfort in the coffee shop. Room for improvement
remains.

[Kurgan Gringioni]

On Feb 27, 5:53*pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:36:29 -0800, dave a
>
> <blkcatREMOVET...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >As a proud Fatty Master, I have a pair of Assos bibs that I won in a
> >raffle. *I would agree that the fit and material is a notch above your
> >typical PI or Voler. *That said, the pad was designed in a way that
> >feels fine on the bike but feels like a giant wedgie when you were
> >walking around.
>
> Interesting. *That supports the theory that Assos offers superior
> comfort on the bike, but clearly they haven't taken into account the
> critical need for comfort in the coffee shop. Room for improvement
> remains.



Dumbass -


It's important that they do that since the true Masters Fattie
includes coffee shop time in the training logbook.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

[joseph.santaniello@gmail.com]

On Feb 28, 2:53*am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:36:29 -0800, dave a
>
> <blkcatREMOVET...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >As a proud Fatty Master, I have a pair of Assos bibs that I won in a
> >raffle. *I would agree that the fit and material is a notch above your
> >typical PI or Voler. *That said, the pad was designed in a way that
> >feels fine on the bike but feels like a giant wedgie when you were
> >walking around.
>
> Interesting. *That supports the theory that Assos offers superior
> comfort on the bike, but clearly they haven't taken into account the
> critical need for comfort in the coffee shop. Room for improvement
> remains.

That's why I use underwear when I ride. I recently switched to breifs
because the boxers looked funny under my bibs. Maybe I should use a
thong?

Joseph

[bjw@mambo.ucolick.org]

On Feb 27, 7:01 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 27, 5:53 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Interesting. That supports the theory that Assos offers superior
> > comfort on the bike, but clearly they haven't taken into account the
> > critical need for comfort in the coffee shop. Room for improvement
> > remains.
>
> Dumbass -
>
> It's important that they do that since the true Masters Fattie
> includes coffee shop time in the training logbook.

Well, duh. It's all about the total chamois time.

Ben
Can I get credit from TK for the rolling mileage
if I wear Assos shorts while I'm rolling my desk chair
back and forth all day?

[Donald Munro]

bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> Can I get credit from TK for the rolling mileage if I wear Assos shorts
> while I'm rolling my desk chair back and forth all day?

Why not, after all greg is paying.

[Kurgan Gringioni]

On Feb 27, 6:23*pm, "Tispectrum" <tispect...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> No, Mark and Steve, it's Herb, former LIBC member. *I know John and his
> responses on this ng, *so his answer doesn't surprise me. *Affectionate, I
> think not.



Dumbass -


Affectionate or not, what's the matter with being called a Fred?

If the shoe fits, wear it!


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

[Mark & Steven Bornfeld]

Tispectrum wrote:
> No, Mark and Steve, it's Herb, former LIBC member. I know John and his
> responses on this ng, so his answer doesn't surprise me. Affectionate, I
> think not.

Hi, Herb. Hope you're well.

Steve
>

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

[Bill C]

On Feb 27, 9:23*pm, "Tispectrum" <tispect...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> No, Mark and Steve, it's Herb, former LIBC member. *I know John and his
> responses on this ng, *so his answer doesn't surprise me. *Affectionate, I
> think not.
>
So it's "arrogance" to take some verbal pokes at elitist twits? Yeah,
JT doesn't suffer fools gladly, but he's better than a lot of other
folks here, and I might call him things, but arrogant isn't one of
them.
Wanna bet that if you sewed Assos labels on **** from Wally World, a
lot of those folks would defend it to the death?

Bill C

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:23:54 -0500, "Tispectrum"
<tispectrum@yahoo.com> wrote:

>No, Mark and Steve, it's Herb, former LIBC member. I know John and his
>responses on this ng, so his answer doesn't surprise me. Affectionate, I
>think not.
>
Maybe not, but I was admiting participating in a fred forum. What
does that saying about me.

J Fred Tomlinson

[Donald Munro]

Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> Affectionate or not, what's the matter with being called a Fred?
>
> If the shoe fits, wear it!

Top posting Fred.

[SLAVE of THE STATE]

On Feb 28, 12:04*am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> b...@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> > Can I get credit from TK for the rolling mileage if I wear Assos shorts
> > while I'm rolling my desk chair back and forth all day?
>
> Why not, after all greg is paying.

To repeat my position, I want my pet primates out of the office and on
the bike all day. They'll do less damage to civilization that way.

[unforgiven99@juno.com]

On Feb 28, 3:41 am, "joseph.santanie...@gmail.com"
<joseph.santanie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 28, 2:53 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:36:29 -0800, dave a
>
> > <blkcatREMOVET...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >As a proud Fatty Master, I have a pair of Assos bibs that I won in a
> > >raffle. I would agree that the fit and material is a notch above your
> > >typical PI or Voler. That said, the pad was designed in a way that
> > >feels fine on the bike but feels like a giant wedgie when you were
> > >walking around.
>
> > Interesting. That supports the theory that Assos offers superior
> > comfort on the bike, but clearly they haven't taken into account the
> > critical need for comfort in the coffee shop. Room for improvement
> > remains.
>
> That's why I use underwear when I ride. I recently switched to breifs
> because the boxers looked funny under my bibs. Maybe I should use a
> thong?
>
> Joseph

Sure. Just remember the extra helping of Assos Chamois Cream if
they're lace.

[Mark & Steven Bornfeld]

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:23:54 -0500, "Tispectrum"
> <tispectrum@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> No, Mark and Steve, it's Herb, former LIBC member. I know John and his
>> responses on this ng, so his answer doesn't surprise me. Affectionate, I
>> think not.
>>
> Maybe not, but I was admiting participating in a fred forum. What
> does that saying about me.
>
> J Fred Tomlinson


Better than a "john" forum.

Steve

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

[Fred Fredburger]

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:23:54 -0500, "Tispectrum"
> <tispectrum@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> No, Mark and Steve, it's Herb, former LIBC member. I know John and his
>> responses on this ng, so his answer doesn't surprise me. Affectionate, I
>> think not.
>>
> Maybe not, but I was admiting participating in a fred forum. What
> does that saying about me.
>

Never back down. Don't admit weakness! Blame your equipment if you have to!

Are we not Freds!?!?

[Donald Munro]

bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
>> > Can I get credit from TK for the rolling mileage if I wear Assos
>> > shorts while I'm rolling my desk chair back and forth all day?

Donald Munro wrote:
>> Why not, after all greg is paying.

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> To repeat my position, I want my pet primates out of the office and on the
> bike all day. They'll do less damage to civilization that way.

Ben wants some new Assos bib shorts so he can go on his afternoon rides
without any discernable cracks.

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article
<96b62005-319a-4545-a364-5e9a1c2ce972@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
SLAVE of THE STATE <gwhite@ti.com> wrote:

> On Feb 28, 12:04*am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > b...@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> > > Can I get credit from TK for the rolling mileage if I wear Assos shorts
> > > while I'm rolling my desk chair back and forth all day?
> >
> > Why not, after all greg is paying.
>
> To repeat my position, I want my pet primates out of the office and on
> the bike all day. They'll do less damage to civilization that way.

Good news, Greg!

http://www.douglas.bc.ca/news-alert.html

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

[joseph.santaniello@gmail.com]

On Feb 28, 8:07*pm, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Feb 27, 6:48 pm, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Donald Munro wrote:
> >>> joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> I didn't think Assos was THAT expensive. No wonder I didn't realize
> >>>> how cool it is!
> >>> You should get one of these to match your Assos:
> >>> <http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2008/reviews/pinarelloprin
> >>> ce_fpxcarbon08>
> >> That's only $5k(US) for the frame. *Don't they have anything more
> >> expensive? *
>
> >> --
> >> Bill Asher
>
> > Dogma FPX lists for $5300. Or buy one with scratches on eBay for
> > $1499.
>
> Claim you never received it, complain to Paypal and get it for free!

Duh! Where do you think the dough for the Zipp wheels came from?!?

Joseph

[Kyle Legate]

joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 28, 8:07 pm, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Feb 27, 6:48 pm, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Donald Munro wrote:
>>>>> joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> I didn't think Assos was THAT expensive. No wonder I didn't realize
>>>>>> how cool it is!
>>>>> You should get one of these to match your Assos:
>>>>> <http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2008/reviews/pinarelloprin
>>>>> ce_fpxcarbon08>
>>>> That's only $5k(US) for the frame. Don't they have anything more
>>>> expensive?
>>>> --
>>>> Bill Asher
>>> Dogma FPX lists for $5300. Or buy one with scratches on eBay for
>>> $1499.
>> Claim you never received it, complain to Paypal and get it for free!
>
> Duh! Where do you think the dough for the Zipp wheels came from?!?
>
Who needs dough? Scam them from Ebay also. Even a homeless man can
become a fully kitted out fatty master with the help of Ebay.

[Kurgan Gringioni]

On Feb 28, 9:33*pm, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Feb 28, 8:07 pm, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Feb 27, 6:48 pm, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> Donald Munro wrote:
> >>>>> joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> I didn't think Assos was THAT expensive. No wonder I didn't realize
> >>>>>> how cool it is!
> >>>>> You should get one of these to match your Assos:
> >>>>> <http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2008/reviews/pinarelloprin
> >>>>> ce_fpxcarbon08>
> >>>> That's only $5k(US) for the frame. *Don't they have anything more
> >>>> expensive? *
> >>>> --
> >>>> Bill Asher
> >>> Dogma FPX lists for $5300. Or buy one with scratches on eBay for
> >>> $1499.
> >> Claim you never received it, complain to Paypal and get it for free!
>
> > Duh! Where do you think the dough for the Zipp wheels came from?!?
>
> Who needs dough? Scam them from Ebay also. Even a homeless man can
> become a fully kitted out fatty master with the help of Ebay.



Dumbass -


Ebay is an amazing Fred Outreach resource for racers. Even used shorts
(team kit) can be sold for good $$$ to Freds.

It blows me away. Do the Freds sniff the chamois or something?


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

[bjw@mambo.ucolick.org]

On Feb 28, 10:40 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 28, 9:33 pm, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Feb 28, 8:07 pm, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Duh! Where do you think the dough for the Zipp wheels came from?!?
>
> > Who needs dough? Scam them from Ebay also. Even a homeless man can
> > become a fully kitted out fatty master with the help of Ebay.
>
> Dumbass -
>
> Ebay is an amazing Fred Outreach resource for racers. Even used shorts
> (team kit) can be sold for good $$$ to Freds.
>
> It blows me away. Do the Freds sniff the chamois or something?

Dumbass,

Duh. If you're wearing underwear under your shorts,
maybe you don't need to care.

If I have to keep explaining this stuff to you,
you are going to lose your crown as King of the
Freds.

Ben
Ruler-in-Exile of the Freds

[Fabrizio Mazzoleni]

On Feb 28, 9:40*pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 28, 9:33*pm, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Feb 28, 8:07 pm, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> On Feb 27, 6:48 pm, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>> Donald Munro wrote:
> > >>>>> joseph.santanie...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>>>> I didn't think Assos was THAT expensive. No wonder I didn't realize
> > >>>>>> how cool it is!
> > >>>>> You should get one of these to match your Assos:
> > >>>>> <http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2008/reviews/pinarelloprin
> > >>>>> ce_fpxcarbon08>
> > >>>> That's only $5k(US) for the frame. *Don't they have anything more
> > >>>> expensive? *
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Bill Asher
> > >>> Dogma FPX lists for $5300. Or buy one with scratches on eBay for
> > >>> $1499.
> > >> Claim you never received it, complain to Paypal and get it for free!
>
> > > Duh! Where do you think the dough for the Zipp wheels came from?!?
>
> > Who needs dough? Scam them from Ebay also. Even a homeless man can
> > become a fully kitted out fatty master with the help of Ebay.
>
> Dumbass -
>
> Ebay is an amazing Fred Outreach resource for racers. Even used shorts
> (team kit) can be sold for good $$$ to Freds.
>
> It blows me away. Do the Freds sniff the chamois or something?
>
> thanks,
>
> K. Gringioni.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ebay is great if your putting together a retro kit, and
80's retro is where it's at now.