Re: OT - Beer [Archive] - Triangle Cycling

Edward Dolan

12-31-1969, 08:00 PM

"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fr7nff$qi0$2@registered.motzarella.org...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Little Meow" <meow@meow.meow> wrote in message
>> news:9A5EFD1605772E0039FA71F@140.99.99.130...
>>
>> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!!
>>
>>> I am unfamiliar with antebellum slang.
>>> What's a "big buck of a Negro"?
>>> Is it a male deer belonging to an
>>> African American?
>>
>> I am unfamiliar with what a whore thinks about anything. Tell me, do you
>> like to get paid before or after? Most particularly, what must it be like
>> to have your brain residing in your ****? Yea, we cyclists need to know!
>> Who knows, after a long day's cycling, we do not mind ****ing a whore
>> like you provided you are not riddled with disease. But get rid of your
>> Negro pimps. That is a turn off for us civilized types.
>>
> An honest prostitute [1] is far superior morally to a woman who marries
> for money.
>
> [1] N.B. I am NOT implying anything about "Little Meow" here.

I do not think Little Meow knows how to **** herself. From that fact alone
springs all her troubles. I don't think I will ever make any progress with
her until she learns how to do what I suggested that she do, namely, that
she go **** herself!

It is also plain to see that TS has no idea of how females think, whether
whores or not. Little Meow is going to think that TS thinks she is a whore
despite his disclaimer. My God, you just have to look at a female wrong and
she will begin to think all sorts of crazy things. That is because they are
all crazy (all those hormones you know) and, I must admit, we men do not
make things any easier for them.

But here is an iron law of nature for all males to observe with respect to
all females: treat a lady like a lady and a tramp like a tramp. You will
never go wrong if you do that.

Ed Dolan the Great is this world's foremost expert on women. He is that
because he is celibate and a Great Saint - and a hermit besides. Yea, I can
tell you whatever you want to know about them. The main thing you need to
know about them is that they may not even be of our species!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan

12-31-1969, 08:00 PM

"Little Meow" <meow@meow.meow> wrote in message
news:9A5EFEDAE77A0A5039FA71F@140.99.99.130...

ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!

> This is the third in a series of verses selected from
> the postings of Edward Dolan, where he shared his
> fantasies of whores, rape by a "big buck of a Negro",
> and intimidation by "Negro pimps".

Poetry is wasted on me unless it is written in the style of Lord Byron. I
read his complete works as a kid and I have never recovered from it.

However, we have are very own poet here on ARBR. His name is Wayne Leggett
of Ventura, California and he knows how to write verse about piss, **** and
**** better than anyone else in the world. You could go to his website and
get educated if you wanted to.

Well, LM, I don't know about you, but everyone on Usenet already knows
everything about me. I am spreading your fame far and wide as witness the
various newsgroups these messages are going to. You will soon be as well
known as me. However, you are going to be known as the Whore of RBM whereas
I am simply known as Ed Dolan the Great.

But first you need to learn how to **** yourself. We are never going to get
anywhere until you at least learn how to do that. It is easy. Just try to
concentrate a little as sex is all in the mind.

By the way, it will be no trick at all to learn your real name since you
have been around a long time on Usenet and others will know and despise you
just as I do. Despite Hollywood movies, most men hate whores.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan

12-31-1969, 08:00 PM

"Jym Dyer" <jym@econet.org> wrote in message
news:Jym.13Mar2008.47d8d1c2@econet.org...
>> The envy of one's inferiors is ever a wonder to behold!
>
> =x= How would you know? Nobody envies you, and you have
> no inferiors.
> HTH, HAND,
> <_Jym_>

I can only go by what I see presented before me on Usenet. So far all I ever
see are idiots like yourself. For instance, who wrote the statement at the
top of your message? Who knows since you have not indicated anyone.

When you learn how to post a message to Usenet, come back and see me and I
will advise you of other corrections you need to make. Maybe some day you
will be up to my level of expertise, but I am not holding my breath.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

dale

01-04-1970, 04:41 AM

Could be like the Hiney Wine in the green bottles.. But 11%!!.. Call
it whatever you like, and call me a cab.. Could make a person prefer a
tadpole over a lowracer... And for the record, blithering is not
encouraged on ARBR-- It would confuse our fulltime blatherers..

On Mar 4, 8:37 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
wrote:
> Does barley wine qualify as beer?
>
> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

DanKMTB@gmail.com

01-04-1970, 04:41 AM

On Mar 4, 8:37 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
wrote:
> DanK...@gmail.com wrote:
> > A while back I read about a barley wine on this group. It inspired me
> > to try a couple, and I was hooked. New favorite fireside beverage.
> > So, I only thought it fair/fitting that I mention my newest discovery
> > here. Weyerbacher Blithering Idiot. I enjoyed it on tap over the
> > weekend at the Pepperland Cafe in Berwick, ME. Great place, if you're
> > even in the area go there. Seriously. Anyway, they had 2 barley
> > wines on tap, Blithering Idiot and Sierra Nevada Bigfoot. I've had
> > the bigfoot, and I like it, but I decided to try something new. I'm
> > so glad I did. Not as malty/hoppy as the Bigfoot, but oh so good.
> > Anyway, figured I'd throw it out there in case one of you comes across
> > it and wonders. It's got a firm recommendation from my camp. Oh, and
> > at 11% go easy, lest you become a blithering idiot.
>
> Does barley wine qualify as beer?

Finest kind in my book. I'm not sure technically, but any beer review
site will include it. The brewers often call it beer. It's in the
beer section at my local bottle shop and my local supermarkets. It's
a beer to me!

> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.

Cool. If you get a chance post back with what you think. Have you
had barley wines in the past?

Hank

01-04-1970, 04:41 AM

On Mar 4, 5:37*pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
wrote:

>
> Does barley wine qualify as beer?
>

Barleywine is to wine what chicken-fried steak is to chicken. Yes,
it's beer, but with an alcohol content similar to wine, hence the
name. Some local food labeling laws cause it to be marketed as
"barleywine-style beer" which leads to a misconception that it is not
actually barleywine, when that's exactly what it is. Such laws are to
prevent stupid people from thinking it's grape-based.

JimmyMac

01-04-1970, 04:41 AM

On Mar 4, 7:37 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
wrote:
> DanK...@gmail.com wrote:
> > A while back I read about a barley wine on this group. It inspired me
> > to try a couple, and I was hooked. New favorite fireside beverage.
> > So, I only thought it fair/fitting that I mention my newest discovery
> > here. Weyerbacher Blithering Idiot. I enjoyed it on tap over the
> > weekend at the Pepperland Cafe in Berwick, ME. Great place, if you're
> > even in the area go there. Seriously. Anyway, they had 2 barley
> > wines on tap, Blithering Idiot and Sierra Nevada Bigfoot. I've had
> > the bigfoot, and I like it, but I decided to try something new. I'm
> > so glad I did. Not as malty/hoppy as the Bigfoot, but oh so good.
> > Anyway, figured I'd throw it out there in case one of you comes across
> > it and wonders. It's got a firm recommendation from my camp. Oh, and
> > at 11% go easy, lest you become a blithering idiot.
>
> Does barley wine qualify as beer?

Despite its name it is merely a very strong (read high alcohol
content) style of ale though ... not to be mistaken for a session beer
chugged down on a hot day.

> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Jay

01-04-1970, 04:41 AM

"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fqktgs$1r6$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> DanKMTB@gmail.com wrote:
>> A while back I read about a barley wine on this group.
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> The weather is here, wish you were beautiful>
>
There is exactly one bottle beer, which is a joy to drink:

http://www.unibroue.com/products/fin.cfm

I am sharing this info with you, because I am sure you will use it wisely.

It is pricey, because it is a very special thing. And, of course, French.
That is how it goes.

I apologize for spitting on the floor, in the last paragraph.

J.

Werehatrack

01-04-1970, 04:41 AM

On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:37:28 -0600, Tom Sherman
<sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> may have said:

>Does barley wine qualify as beer?

This is locally variable. In some places, a fermented beverage whose
ingredients do not include hops cannot be sold as beer; the same is
often true for uncarbonated brews. "Malt liquor" may or may not be an
effective synonym for "barley wine" in some places.

The situation is at least as complicated as that of the varying
definition of chocolate between Belgium and England. This may have
changed, but at one time Cadbury milk chocolate contained too little
cocoa solids to qualify as chocolate by the Belgian standards, but it
reportedly contained just enough dairy content to theoretically be
able to be called "cheese".

The shifting definition of "Sterling silver" between different nations
is another example of locality-dependent terminology.

--
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Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

01-04-1970, 04:41 AM

On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:37:28 -0600, Tom Sherman
<sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:

>DanKMTB@gmail.com wrote:
>> A while back I read about a barley wine on this group. It inspired me
>> to try a couple, and I was hooked. New favorite fireside beverage.
>> So, I only thought it fair/fitting that I mention my newest discovery
>> here. Weyerbacher Blithering Idiot. I enjoyed it on tap over the
>> weekend at the Pepperland Cafe in Berwick, ME. Great place, if you're
>> even in the area go there. Seriously. Anyway, they had 2 barley
>> wines on tap, Blithering Idiot and Sierra Nevada Bigfoot. I've had
>> the bigfoot, and I like it, but I decided to try something new. I'm
>> so glad I did. Not as malty/hoppy as the Bigfoot, but oh so good.
>> Anyway, figured I'd throw it out there in case one of you comes across
>> it and wonders. It's got a firm recommendation from my camp. Oh, and
>> at 11% go easy, lest you become a blithering idiot.
>>
>Does barley wine qualify as beer?
>
>I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.

Google BJCP Style Guidelines and beer will never, ever be a yellow
fizzy alco pop beverage to you again.

Jim Wilson
G0712

Crazy Fred

01-04-1970, 04:41 AM

On Mar 4, 8:37*pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
wrote:
> DanK...@gmail.com wrote:
> > A while back I read about a barley wine on this group. *It inspired me
> > to try a couple, and I was hooked. *New favorite fireside beverage.
> > So, I only thought it fair/fitting that I mention my newest discovery
> > here. *Weyerbacher Blithering Idiot. *I enjoyed it on tap over the
> > weekend at the Pepperland Cafe in Berwick, ME. *Great place, if you're
> > even in the area go there. *Seriously. *Anyway, they had 2 barley
> > wines on tap, Blithering Idiot and Sierra Nevada Bigfoot. *I've had
> > the bigfoot, and I like it, but I decided to try something new. *I'm
> > so glad I did. *Not as malty/hoppy as the Bigfoot, but oh so good.
> > Anyway, figured I'd throw it out there in case one of you comes across
> > it and wonders. *It's got a firm recommendation from my camp. *Oh, and
> > at 11% go easy, lest you become a blithering idiot.
>
> Does barley wine qualify as beer?
>
> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Its in the beer section around here.

Tom Sherman

01-04-1970, 04:41 AM

dale wrote:
>
> On Mar 4, 8:37 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> Does barley wine qualify as beer?
>>
>> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.
>>
> Could be like the Hiney Wine in the green bottles.. But 11%!!.. Call
> it whatever you like, and call me a cab.. Could make a person prefer a
> tadpole over a lowracer... And for the record, blithering is not
> encouraged on ARBR-- It would confuse our fulltime blatherers..

Better a lowracer than a highracer or upright for riding drunk. Falls do
not hurt that much when you start 30 cm or less from the ground.

A go cart track, a tadpole and being drunk would be an excellent
combination!

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

DanKMTB@gmail.com

01-04-1970, 04:41 AM

On Mar 4, 11:34 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
wrote:
> dale wrote:
>
> > On Mar 4, 8:37 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Does barley wine qualify as beer?
>
> >> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.
>
> > Could be like the Hiney Wine in the green bottles.. But 11%!!.. Call
> > it whatever you like, and call me a cab.. Could make a person prefer a
> > tadpole over a lowracer... And for the record, blithering is not
> > encouraged on ARBR-- It would confuse our fulltime blatherers..
>
> Better a lowracer than a highracer or upright for riding drunk. Falls do
> not hurt that much when you start 30 cm or less from the ground.
>
> A go cart track, a tadpole and being drunk would be an excellent
> combination!

Heh... for the first time in my life I now want a trike. Not nearly
bad enough to buy one, but it's a fun thought. I know where I can
find a go-cart track I could sneak into in the wee hours of the morn.
That'd be fun explaining to the cabby. "I just need you to take me
and this trike to the go-cart track." "Of course I know it's 2am, do
you think I'd be able to get this thing on there in the day?". "Why
yes, I am drunk. I had 2 beers! That was an important part of this
plan". "No, I'm not a lightweight. You drink six of these things and
you'll become a blithering idiot".

datakoll

01-04-1970, 04:43 AM

CHOH decreases water capacity, increased water capacity increases
energy output.

Tom Sherman

01-04-1970, 04:43 AM

DanKMTB@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 4, 8:37 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> DanK...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> A while back I read about a barley wine on this group. It inspired me
>>> to try a couple, and I was hooked. New favorite fireside beverage.
>>> So, I only thought it fair/fitting that I mention my newest discovery
>>> here. Weyerbacher Blithering Idiot. I enjoyed it on tap over the
>>> weekend at the Pepperland Cafe in Berwick, ME. Great place, if you're
>>> even in the area go there. Seriously. Anyway, they had 2 barley
>>> wines on tap, Blithering Idiot and Sierra Nevada Bigfoot. I've had
>>> the bigfoot, and I like it, but I decided to try something new. I'm
>>> so glad I did. Not as malty/hoppy as the Bigfoot, but oh so good.
>>> Anyway, figured I'd throw it out there in case one of you comes across
>>> it and wonders. It's got a firm recommendation from my camp. Oh, and
>>> at 11% go easy, lest you become a blithering idiot.
>> Does barley wine qualify as beer?
>
> Finest kind in my book. I'm not sure technically, but any beer review
> site will include it. The brewers often call it beer. It's in the
> beer section at my local bottle shop and my local supermarkets. It's
> a beer to me!
>
>
>> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.
>
> Cool. If you get a chance post back with what you think. Have you
> had barley wines in the past?

No, but since I like wheat beer [1], it appears promising.

[1] Local favorites: <http://www.islandwheat.com/> and
<http://www.gooseisland.com/beers/pop-ups/5_312.html>.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore!

Edward Dolan

01-04-1970, 04:45 AM

"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:79b7062a-4671-42ad-b650-aa0a51d791bc@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 4, 7:37 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> DanK...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > A while back I read about a barley wine on this group. It inspired me
>> > to try a couple, and I was hooked. New favorite fireside beverage.
>> > So, I only thought it fair/fitting that I mention my newest discovery
>> > here. Weyerbacher Blithering Idiot. I enjoyed it on tap over the
>> > weekend at the Pepperland Cafe in Berwick, ME. Great place, if you're
>> > even in the area go there. Seriously. Anyway, they had 2 barley
>> > wines on tap, Blithering Idiot and Sierra Nevada Bigfoot. I've had
>> > the bigfoot, and I like it, but I decided to try something new. I'm
>> > so glad I did. Not as malty/hoppy as the Bigfoot, but oh so good.
>> > Anyway, figured I'd throw it out there in case one of you comes across
>> > it and wonders. It's got a firm recommendation from my camp. Oh, and
>> > at 11% go easy, lest you become a blithering idiot.
>>
>> Does barley wine qualify as beer?
>
> Despite its name it is merely a very strong (read high alcohol
> content) style of ale though ... not to be mistaken for a session beer
> chugged down on a hot day.
>
>> I will have to give the recommended beverages a try.

I urge all and sundry to stay away from such beverages. If you partake, they
will cause your feet to go numb. Then you will be as numb down below as you
are top side. Nay, drink only water, the true nectar of the Gods!

Regards,

Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Hank

01-04-1970, 04:45 AM

On Mar 5, 5:03*pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:

> I urge all and sundry to stay away from such beverages. If you partake, they
> will cause your feet to go numb. Then you will be as numb down below as you
> are top side. Nay, drink only water, the true nectar of the Gods!
>

Lest they sap and impurify all of our Precious Bodily Fluids...

Brian Huntley

01-04-1970, 04:46 AM

On Mar 5, 9:24 pm, "Jay" <jbol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fqktgs$1r6$1@registered.motzarella.org...> DanK...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> A while back I read about a barley wine on this group.
> > --
> > Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> > The weather is here, wish you were beautiful>
>
> There is exactly one bottle beer, which is a joy to drink:
>
> http://www.unibroue.com/products/fin.cfm
>
> I am sharing this info with you, because I am sure you will use it wisely.
>
> It is pricey, because it is a very special thing. And, of course, French.
> That is how it goes.
>
> I apologize for spitting on the floor, in the last paragraph.

Fin du Monde is many things, including a fine beer, but one thing it
is not is French.

It is Canadian, from Chambley, Quebec.

Tom Sherman

01-04-1970, 04:46 AM

Jay Bollyn wrote:
> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:fqktgs$1r6$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> DanKMTB@gmail.com wrote:
>>> A while back I read about a barley wine on this group.
>>
> There is exactly one bottle beer, which is a joy to drink:
>
> http://www.unibroue.com/products/fin.cfm
>
All I see is "This sub system is currently unavailable. Please try again
later."

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

DanKMTB@gmail.com

01-04-1970, 04:46 AM

On Mar 5, 9:24*pm, "Jay" <jbol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fqktgs$1r6$1@registered.motzarella.org...> DanK...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> A while back I read about a barley wine on this group.
> > --
> > Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> > The weather is here, wish you were beautiful>
>
> There is exactly one bottle beer, which is a joy to drink:
>
> http://www.unibroue.com/products/fin.cfm
>
> I am sharing this info with you, because I am sure you will use it wisely.
>
> It is pricey, because it is a very special thing. And, of course, French.
> That is how it goes.
>
> I apologize for spitting on the floor, in the last paragraph.
>
> J.

La Fin du Monde is another of my favorites. I found it last year in
my search to replace the barley wine once it went out of season.
Can't say i find it superior to the Blithering Idiot, though I do find
it in league with some barley wines such as Bigfoot and superior to
some others, such as the Smuttynose (and their beers are normally very
good).

I don't find it to be overly pricey when you consider how it drinks
and the alcohol content. In my parts it's around $5 for a bottle,
which is about what a 6 pack of decent normal beer costs. I'd take
about the same amount of time to get through the La Fin du Monde and
enjoy it more. 1 or 2 of those over the course of a night by the fire
with a good book has been a great night for me more than once.

Jay

01-04-1970, 04:46 AM

"Brian Huntley" <brian_huntley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0dd5882a-c348-44e3-b18f-4497ea899fbd@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> Fin du Monde is many things, including a fine beer, but one thing it
> is not is French.
>
> It is Canadian, from Chambley, Quebec.
>
OK...True French from France, French-Canadian, whatever. My point is, their
ilk tends to have great tasting food and drink, and they charge a lot for
it.

Please keep in mind - most of us Americans have only a very vague idea, of
the world outside our borders.

J.

Ryan Cousineau

01-04-1970, 04:46 AM

In article
<0dd5882a-c348-44e3-b18f-4497ea899fbd@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Brian Huntley <brian_huntley@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 5, 9:24 pm, "Jay" <jbol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:fqktgs$1r6$1@registered.motzarella.org...> DanK...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> A while back I read about a barley wine on this group.
> > > --
> > > Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> > > The weather is here, wish you were beautiful>
> >
> > There is exactly one bottle beer, which is a joy to drink:
> >
> > http://www.unibroue.com/products/fin.cfm
> >
> > I am sharing this info with you, because I am sure you will use it wisely.
> >
> > It is pricey, because it is a very special thing. And, of course, French.
> > That is how it goes.
> >
> > I apologize for spitting on the floor, in the last paragraph.
>
> Fin du Monde is many things, including a fine beer, but one thing it
> is not is French.
>
> It is Canadian, from Chambley, Quebec.

Also worth noting: just about every brew Unibroue puts out is worth a
try.

Their current lineup:

http://www.unibroue.com/our_beers_eng.html

The Ephemere hasn't yet impressed me, but the Chambly Noire is a
sophisticated perversion of a Guinness-type beer (that means I like it).
Of their strong beers, my favorite may be Don de Dieu, but they range
from extremely good to the best beer I've tried.

I haven't tried Seigneuriale yet.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Edward Dolan

01-04-1970, 04:46 AM

"Hank" <hank@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
news:7d56077e-b52f-4c77-ba00-c398b7d99b27@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 5, 5:03 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:

> I urge all and sundry to stay away from such beverages. If you partake,
> they
> will cause your feet to go numb. Then you will be as numb down below as
> you
> are top side. Nay, drink only water, the true nectar of the Gods!
>
>>Lest they sap and impurify all of our Precious Bodily Fluids...

I thought everyone in "Dr Strangelove" was totally sane and all acted very
reasonably. It is why I advocate the carpet atom bombing of all Muslim
lands. That would be the best way to rid the world of that odious religion
(Islam) and the savages who follow it.

By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim school
in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of Islam. Let us
hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Tom Sherman

01-04-1970, 04:47 AM

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Hank" <hank@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
> news:7d56077e-b52f-4c77-ba00-c398b7d99b27@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 5, 5:03 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
>> I urge all and sundry to stay away from such beverages. If you partake,
>> they
>> will cause your feet to go numb. Then you will be as numb down below as
>> you
>> are top side. Nay, drink only water, the true nectar of the Gods!
>>
>>> Lest they sap and impurify all of our Precious Bodily Fluids...
>
> I thought everyone in "Dr Strangelove" was totally sane and all acted very
> reasonably. It is why I advocate the carpet atom bombing of all Muslim
> lands. That would be the best way to rid the world of that odious religion
> (Islam) and the savages who follow it.
>
> By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim school
> in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of Islam. Let us
> hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>
Many of those people in Ohio, Rhode Island and Texas voting for $Hillary
must be Republicans crossing over.

I think I may vote for gene "datakoll" daniels as a write-in candidate.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Hank

01-04-1970, 04:47 AM

On Mar 5, 9:28*pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:

>
> By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim school
> in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of Islam. Let us
> hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>

Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
school, most of his classmates were Muslim, but it was not a Muslim
school.

Next, you'll be telling me he's Jewish. After all, the former Israeli
prime minister is named Ehud Barak.

Mike Vandeman

01-04-1970, 04:47 AM

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 23:28:38 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
wrote:

>
>"Hank" <hank@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
>news:7d56077e-b52f-4c77-ba00-c398b7d99b27@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>On Mar 5, 5:03 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
>> I urge all and sundry to stay away from such beverages. If you partake,
>> they
>> will cause your feet to go numb. Then you will be as numb down below as
>> you
>> are top side. Nay, drink only water, the true nectar of the Gods!
>>
>>>Lest they sap and impurify all of our Precious Bodily Fluids...
>
>I thought everyone in "Dr Strangelove" was totally sane and all acted very
>reasonably. It is why I advocate the carpet atom bombing of all Muslim
>lands. That would be the best way to rid the world of that odious religion
>(Islam) and the savages who follow it.
>
>By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim school
>in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of Islam. Let us
>hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>
>Regards,
>
>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>aka
>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Ahhh, I feel a a fresh wind blowing!
--
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humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Ryan Cousineau

01-04-1970, 04:47 AM

In article <fqnvi6$isr$2@registered.motzarella.org>,
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:

> Jay Bollyn wrote:
> > "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:fqktgs$1r6$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >> DanKMTB@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> A while back I read about a barley wine on this group.
> >>
> > There is exactly one bottle beer, which is a joy to drink:
> >
> > http://www.unibroue.com/products/fin.cfm
> >
> All I see is "This sub system is currently unavailable. Please try again
> later."

http://www.unibroue.com/our_beers_eng.html

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Edward Dolan

01-04-1970, 04:47 AM

"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fqo04e$n54$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Hank" <hank@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
>> news:7d56077e-b52f-4c77-ba00-c398b7d99b27@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Mar 5, 5:03 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I urge all and sundry to stay away from such beverages. If you partake,
>>> they
>>> will cause your feet to go numb. Then you will be as numb down below as
>>> you
>>> are top side. Nay, drink only water, the true nectar of the Gods!
>>>
>>>> Lest they sap and impurify all of our Precious Bodily Fluids...
>>
>> I thought everyone in "Dr Strangelove" was totally sane and all acted
>> very reasonably. It is why I advocate the carpet atom bombing of all
>> Muslim lands. That would be the best way to rid the world of that odious
>> religion (Islam) and the savages who follow it.
>>
>> By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim
>> school in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of
>> Islam. Let us hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>>
> Many of those people in Ohio, Rhode Island and Texas voting for $Hillary
> must be Republicans crossing over.
>
> I think I may vote for gene "datakoll" daniels as a write-in candidate.

I do not know who I hate more - McCain or Hillary! I do know that B. Hussein
Obama will not do at all.

McCain is good on the war and terrorism issue and Hillary is good on the
health care issue. I am convinced that no one knows one god damn thing about
B. Hussein Obama. The ****ing idiotic liberal media have fallen in love with
him and refuse to vet him.

I may sit this election out. All I know for sure is that the country is
doomed!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

A Muzi

01-04-1970, 04:47 AM

-snip gratuitous OT-
Tom Sherman wrote:
> I think I may vote for gene "datakoll" daniels as a write-in candidate.

Gene writes with more coherence than the champions of either Party.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Tom Sherman

01-04-1970, 04:47 AM

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> In article <fqnvi6$isr$2@registered.motzarella.org>,
> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Jay Bollyn wrote:
>>> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fqktgs$1r6$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> DanKMTB@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> A while back I read about a barley wine on this group.
>>> There is exactly one bottle beer, which is a joy to drink:
>>>
>>> http://www.unibroue.com/products/fin.cfm
>>>
>> All I see is "This sub system is currently unavailable. Please try again
>> later."
>
> http://www.unibroue.com/our_beers_eng.html
>
That link works.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

still just me

01-04-1970, 04:47 AM

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 00:18:56 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
wrote:

>I may sit this election out. All I know for sure is that the country is
>doomed!

Let's see: massive recession with stagflation and credit markets
tumbling, $700b pointless war continuing, imported labor (direct and
indirect) eliminating most US based jobs, the Constitution and Bill of
Rights apparently no longer observed... no matter who we elect, at
least it can't get much worse.

andresmuro@aol.com

01-04-1970, 04:47 AM

On Mar 5, 11:18 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fqo04e$n54$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>
>
> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> "Hank" <h...@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
> >>news:7d56077e-b52f-4c77-ba00-c398b7d99b27@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Mar 5, 5:03 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
> >>> I urge all and sundry to stay away from such beverages. If you partake,
> >>> they
> >>> will cause your feet to go numb. Then you will be as numb down below as
> >>> you
> >>> are top side. Nay, drink only water, the true nectar of the Gods!
>
> >>>> Lest they sap and impurify all of our Precious Bodily Fluids...
>
> >> I thought everyone in "Dr Strangelove" was totally sane and all acted
> >> very reasonably. It is why I advocate the carpet atom bombing of all
> >> Muslim lands. That would be the best way to rid the world of that odious
> >> religion (Islam) and the savages who follow it.
>
> >> By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim
> >> school in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of
> >> Islam. Let us hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>
> > Many of those people in Ohio, Rhode Island and Texas voting for $Hillary
> > must be Republicans crossing over.
>
> > I think I may vote for gene "datakoll" daniels as a write-in candidate.
>
> I do not know who I hate more - McCain or Hillary! I do know that B. Hussein
> Obama will not do at all.
>
> McCain is good on the war and terrorism issue and Hillary is good on the
> health care issue. I am convinced that no one knows one god damn thing about
> B. Hussein Obama. The ****ing idiotic liberal media have fallen in love with
> him and refuse to vet him.
>
> I may sit this election out. All I know for sure is that the country is
> doomed!
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

I wasn't planning to vote for anyone, except that as Tom suggested, I
was tempted to vote for Gene Daniels. However, now that I know that
Obama is a terrorist, a radical muslim, and that his last name rimes
with Osama and his middle name is Hussein, I am am going to vote for
him. Plus, I saw him wearing a turban. That confirmed that his is an
evil terrorist that will blow the world apart. We need to continue the
violence started but Bush. electing a radical muslim as a president
will ensure of that. all that stuff that he is saying about ending the
war, diplomatic relations and health care is BS. He is clearly a bomb
ready to explode.

Edward Dolan

01-04-1970, 04:47 AM

"Hank" <hank@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
news:4146936f-8373-46b5-b807-a13cb7aa2879@e31g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 5, 9:28 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:

>
> By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim
> school
> in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of Islam. Let
> us
> hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>
>>Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
school, most of his classmates were Muslim, but it was not a Muslim
school.

Is B. Hussein Obama then a Roman Catholic?

What do you make of the following information?

"Investigations have shown that Obama's father and stepfather were devout
Islamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. His stepfather,
wh o had a much greater impact on Obama's upbringing, was a radical
Wahabbi Muslim. Obama's mother married Lolo Soetoro, a Wahabbi
extremist who lived in Indonesia. When Obama's mother moved to
Indonesia - before she married her second Muslim husband - she enrolled
her son in Francis Assisis Catholic School. He was enrolled as a Muslim
because he was a Muslim." By Michael Reisig

>>Next, you'll be telling me he's Jewish. After all, the former Israeli
prime minister is named Ehud Barak.

Barak Hussein Obama is an Arab Muslim name. Some folks even get him confused
with Osama Bin Laden!

Also, what do you make of this?

"Obama's campaign website has been hailed as a testament to the
candidate's transformative politics. But at least part of the senator's
online outreach, "Muslim Americans for Obama '08" proposes installing
Muslim prayer areas in public places and giving Muslims time off for
prayer, and has denounced Obama's colleagues in the U.S. Senate who
happen to be Jewish." By Michael Reisig

In any event, it is insane to suppose that B. Hussein Obama was not deeply
influenced by his Muslim background. His mother apparently had a thing for
Muslim men since she married two of them! She must have been a real kook!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

datakoll

01-04-1970, 04:47 AM

On Mar 6, 1:40*am, Hank <h...@wirtznet.net> wrote:
> On Mar 5, 9:28*pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim school
> > in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of Islam. Let us
> > hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>
> Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
> secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
> school, most of his classmates were Muslim, but it was not a Muslim
> school.
>
> Next, you'll be telling me he's Jewish. After all, the former Israeli
> prime minister is named Ehud Barak.

Dolan and O'Bama are Jewish. O'Bama's family are slumlords.

bigjimpack@gmail.com

01-04-1970, 04:47 AM

He's a radical muslim. Dont fall for the cover up

On Mar 6, 1:40*am, Hank <h...@wirtznet.net> wrote:
> On Mar 5, 9:28*pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim school
> > in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of Islam. Let us
> > hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>
> Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
> secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
> school, most of his classmates were Muslim, but it was not a Muslim
> school.
>
> Next, you'll be telling me he's Jewish. After all, the former Israeli
> prime minister is named Ehud Barak.

Hank

01-04-1970, 04:48 AM

On Mar 5, 11:29 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Hank" <h...@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
>
> news:4146936f-8373-46b5-b807-a13cb7aa2879@e31g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 5, 9:28 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim
> > school
> > in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of Islam. Let
> > us
> > hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>
> >>Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
>
> secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
> school, most of his classmates were Muslim, but it was not a Muslim
> school.
>
> Is B. Hussein Obama then a Roman Catholic?

Nope, he's a member of the United Church of Christ. His maternal
grandparents were Methodists who became Unitarians, and his mother was
a secular humanist agnostic.

>
> What do you make of the following information?
>
> "Investigations have shown that Obama's father and stepfather were devout
> Islamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. His stepfather,
> wh o had a much greater impact on Obama's upbringing, was a radical
> Wahabbi Muslim. Obama's mother married Lolo Soetoro, a Wahabbi
> extremist who lived in Indonesia. When Obama's mother moved to
> Indonesia - before she married her second Muslim husband - she enrolled
> her son in Francis Assisis Catholic School. He was enrolled as a Muslim
> because he was a Muslim." By Michael Reisig

Who is Michael Reisig? From my Google search, it appears he writes
works of fiction, not journalism. The rest of your quote lifts
straight from the email debunked by Snopes.com.

>
> >>Next, you'll be telling me he's Jewish. After all, the former Israeli
>
> prime minister is named Ehud Barak.
>
> Barak Hussein Obama is an Arab Muslim name. Some folks even get him confused
> with Osama Bin Laden!

"Obama" is a Dholuo name, from the language spoken by the Luo tribe of
Kenya. His paternal grandfather was named Onyango Obama, and he was a
Catholic who converted to Islam, though the whole family did not
convert. Barack Sr.'s stepmother who raised him remains Catholic to
this day.

>
> Also, what do you make of this?
>
> "Obama's campaign website has been hailed as a testament to the
> candidate's transformative politics. But at least part of the senator's
> online outreach, "Muslim Americans for Obama '08" proposes installing
> Muslim prayer areas in public places and giving Muslims time off for
> prayer, and has denounced Obama's colleagues in the U.S. Senate who
> happen to be Jewish." By Michael Reisig

"Muslim Americans for Obama '08" is not part of Obama's campaign, but
Muslims who support him, posting what they'd like to see.

>
> In any event, it is insane to suppose that B. Hussein Obama was not deeply
> influenced by his Muslim background. His mother apparently had a thing for
> Muslim men since she married two of them! She must have been a real kook!
>

Takes one to spot one.

ScottyFLL

01-04-1970, 04:48 AM

On Mar 6, 2:29ï¿½am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Hank" <h...@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
>
> news:4146936f-8373-46b5-b807-a13cb7aa2879@e31g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 5, 9:28 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > By the way, B. HusseinObamahad aMuslimfather and went to aMuslim
> > school
> > in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of Islam. Let
> > us
> > hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>
> >>Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
>
> secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
> school, most of his classmates wereMuslim, but it was not aMuslim
> school.
>
> Is B. HusseinObamathen a Roman Catholic?
>
> What do you make of the following information?
>
> "Investigations have shown thatObama'sfather and stepfather were devout
> Islamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. His stepfather,
> wh o had a much greater impact onObama'supbringing, was a radical
> WahabbiMuslim.Obama'smother married Lolo Soetoro, a Wahabbi
> extremist who lived in Indonesia. WhenObama'smother moved to
> Indonesia - before she married her secondMuslimhusband - she enrolled
> her son in Francis Assisis Catholic School. He was enrolled as aMuslim
> because he was aMuslim." By Michael Reisig
>
> >>Next, you'll be telling me he's Jewish. After all, the former Israeli
>
> prime minister is named Ehud Barak.
>
> Barak HusseinObamais an ArabMuslimname. Some folks even get him confused
> with Osama Bin Laden!
>
> Also, what do you make of this?
>
> "Obama'scampaign website has been hailed as a testament to the
> candidate's transformative politics. But at least part of the senator's
> online outreach, "MuslimAmericans forObama'08" proposes installingMuslimprayer areas in public places and giving Muslims time off for
> prayer, and has denouncedObama'scolleagues in the U.S. Senate who
> happen to be Jewish." By Michael Reisig
>
> In any event, it is insane to suppose that B. HusseinObamawas not deeply
> influenced by hisMuslimbackground. His mother apparently had a thing forMuslimmen since she married two of them! She must have been a real kook!
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

I wouldn't vote for anybody that has even a hint
of that Satanic religion in their family history.
I wouldn't vote for a nigger anyway, but that is
beside the point.

Bill Z.

01-04-1970, 04:48 AM

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> writes:

> "Hank" <hank@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
> news:4146936f-8373-46b5-b807-a13cb7aa2879@e31g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

> >>Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
> secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
> school, most of his classmates were Muslim, but it was not a Muslim
> school.
>
> Is B. Hussein Obama then a Roman Catholic?
>
> What do you make of the following information?
>
> "Investigations have shown that Obama's father and stepfather were devout
> Islamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. <snip>

What I'd make of it is that you are an idiot for even thinking it is
credible enough to post, or a mindless troll if you know better.

We have a presidential election coming up, and we really need to elect
a highly capable person to fix the mess made by the current
administration. Why don't you try to do the country a favor and
treat it as a serious matter and not resort to adolescent innuendo?

Tom Sherman

01-04-1970, 04:48 AM

Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
> Barak Hussein Obama is an Arab Muslim name. Some folks even get him confused
> with Osama Bin Laden! [...]
>
No that is silly, since the bin Laden family is friends with and
supports the Bush family.

For example, Osama's older half-brother Salem bin Laden was an investor
in Arbusto Energy, a company founded (with borrowed money) by George
Walker Bush.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Werehatrack

01-04-1970, 04:48 AM

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:02:14 GMT, still just me
<wheeledBobNOSPAM@yahoo.com> may have said:

>Let's see: massive recession with stagflation and credit markets
>tumbling, $700b pointless war continuing, imported labor (direct and
>indirect) eliminating most US based jobs, the Constitution and Bill of
>Rights apparently no longer observed... no matter who we elect, at
>least it can't get much worse.

Au contraire. IMO, it can and it will, regardless of who wins. The
real question is whether we will elect another Hoover who, oblivious
to the concerns of the people whose plight he (or she) does not truly
understand or actually care about, will do nothing effective to start
making the significant changes that will be needed to build the base
for a less wasteful, more responsible future. And make no mistake;
digging out of the mess will take more than 8 years.

--
My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

A Muzi

01-04-1970, 04:48 AM

> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>> I may sit this election out. All I know for sure is that the country is
>> doomed!

still just me wrote:
> Let's see: massive recession with stagflation and credit markets
> tumbling, $700b pointless war continuing, imported labor (direct and
> indirect) eliminating most US based jobs, the Constitution and Bill of
> Rights apparently no longer observed... no matter who we elect, at
> least it can't get much worse.

Bernanke yesterday suggested banks mark mortgages to market. Where are
the adults???
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Edward Dolan

01-04-1970, 04:49 AM

<andresmuro@aol.com> wrote in message
news:52c7c016-31a4-4d77-8e4f-1969ab437871@34g2000hsz.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 5, 11:18 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:fqo04e$n54$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Edward Dolan wrote:
>> >> "Hank" <h...@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
>> >>news:7d56077e-b52f-4c77-ba00-c398b7d99b27@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> >> On Mar 5, 5:03 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>> I urge all and sundry to stay away from such beverages. If you
>> >>> partake,
>> >>> they
>> >>> will cause your feet to go numb. Then you will be as numb down below
>> >>> as
>> >>> you
>> >>> are top side. Nay, drink only water, the true nectar of the Gods!
>>
>> >>>> Lest they sap and impurify all of our Precious Bodily Fluids...
>>
>> >> I thought everyone in "Dr Strangelove" was totally sane and all acted
>> >> very reasonably. It is why I advocate the carpet atom bombing of all
>> >> Muslim lands. That would be the best way to rid the world of that
>> >> odious
>> >> religion (Islam) and the savages who follow it.
>>
>> >> By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim
>> >> school in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of
>> >> Islam. Let us hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>>
>> > Many of those people in Ohio, Rhode Island and Texas voting for
>> > $Hillary
>> > must be Republicans crossing over.
>>
>> > I think I may vote for gene "datakoll" daniels as a write-in candidate.
>>
>> I do not know who I hate more - McCain or Hillary! I do know that B.
>> Hussein
>> Obama will not do at all.
>>
>> McCain is good on the war and terrorism issue and Hillary is good on the
>> health care issue. I am convinced that no one knows one god damn thing
>> about
>> B. Hussein Obama. The ****ing idiotic liberal media have fallen in love
>> with
>> him and refuse to vet him.
>>
>> I may sit this election out. All I know for sure is that the country is
>> doomed!
>
> I wasn't planning to vote for anyone, except that as Tom suggested, I
> was tempted to vote for Gene Daniels. However, now that I know that
> Obama is a terrorist, a radical muslim, and that his last name rimes
> with Osama and his middle name is Hussein, I am am going to vote for
> him. Plus, I saw him wearing a turban. That confirmed that his is an
> evil terrorist that will blow the world apart. We need to continue the
> violence started but Bush. electing a radical muslim as a president
> will ensure of that. all that stuff that he is saying about ending the
> war, diplomatic relations and health care is BS. He is clearly a bomb
> ready to explode.

Just watch Chris Matthews on MSNBC to know what manly love is all about. He
has been badly smitten. However, what he knows about B. Hussein Obama you
could put in a thimble with room to spare. Love is blind you know!
Apparently color blind as well.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

datakoll

01-04-1970, 04:49 AM

"Muslim Americans for Obama '08" are a swift boat splinter group

Arnold Shwarzeniggar is Governor of California

'Hank' is a front for the ANP

this is a bicycle discussion group

Edward Dolan

01-04-1970, 04:49 AM

"Hank" <hank@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
news:8e9a1e33-b72d-410d-a697-daea528f8a92@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 5, 11:29 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> "Hank" <h...@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:4146936f-8373-46b5-b807-a13cb7aa2879@e31g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> On Mar 5, 9:28 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > By the way, B. Hussein Obama had a Muslim father and went to a Muslim
>> > school
>> > in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of Islam.
>> > Let
>> > us
>> > hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>>
>> >>Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
>>
>> secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
>> school, most of his classmates were Muslim, but it was not a Muslim
>> school.
>>
>> Is B. Hussein Obama then a Roman Catholic?
>
> Nope, he's a member of the United Church of Christ. His maternal
> grandparents were Methodists who became Unitarians, and his mother was
> a secular humanist agnostic.

So why did his kook of a Muslim loving mother send him to a Catholic school?

>> What do you make of the following information?
>>
>> "Investigations have shown that Obama's father and stepfather were devout
>> Islamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. His stepfather,
>> wh o had a much greater impact on Obama's upbringing, was a radical
>> Wahabbi Muslim. Obama's mother married Lolo Soetoro, a Wahabbi
>> extremist who lived in Indonesia. When Obama's mother moved to
>> Indonesia - before she married her second Muslim husband - she enrolled
>> her son in Francis Assisis Catholic School. He was enrolled as a Muslim
>> because he was a Muslim." By Michael Reisig
>
> Who is Michael Reisig? From my Google search, it appears he writes
> works of fiction, not journalism. The rest of your quote lifts
> straight from the email debunked by Snopes.com.

I think the facts speak for themselves, don't you?

>> >>Next, you'll be telling me he's Jewish. After all, the former Israeli
>>
>> prime minister is named Ehud Barak.
>>
>> Barak Hussein Obama is an Arab Muslim name. Some folks even get him
>> confused
>> with Osama Bin Laden!
>
>
> "Obama" is a Dholuo name, from the language spoken by the Luo tribe of
> Kenya. His paternal grandfather was named Onyango Obama, and he was a
> Catholic who converted to Islam, though the whole family did not
> convert. Barack Sr.'s stepmother who raised him remains Catholic to
> this day.

The name you had to explain was Hussein you moron!

So B. Hussein is actually of Kenyan descent! My God, that is even worse than
being of Arab ancestry. Do we really want someone in the White House who was
raised by Black Muslims?

>> Also, what do you make of this?
>>
>> "Obama's campaign website has been hailed as a testament to the
>> candidate's transformative politics. But at least part of the senator's
>> online outreach, "Muslim Americans for Obama '08" proposes installing
>> Muslim prayer areas in public places and giving Muslims time off for
>> prayer, and has denounced Obama's colleagues in the U.S. Senate who
>> happen to be Jewish." By Michael Reisig
>
> "Muslim Americans for Obama '08" is not part of Obama's campaign, but
> Muslims who support him, posting what they'd like to see.

Why does not B. Hussein disassociate himself from all this Muslim riff-raff?
Hells Bells, B. Hussein does not even have brains enough to disassociate
himself from his Black racist church. How dumb is that? Maybe he should be
running for President of Kenya! Oops, I forgot, he is half White - is he
not?

>> In any event, it is insane to suppose that B. Hussein Obama was not
>> deeply
>> influenced by his Muslim background. His mother apparently had a thing
>> for
>> Muslim men since she married two of them! She must have been a real kook!
>>
>
> Takes one to spot one.

His mother must have been some kind of Muslim loving whore. I, on the other
hand, am a Great Saint, otherwise known far and wide as Saint Edward the
Great!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan

01-04-1970, 04:49 AM

"datakoll" <datakoll@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1c2b2264-1019-496f-9132-4d0ae19f120e@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS NOR DOES HE EVEN POST ANY OF THE MESSAGE TO WHICH
HE IS RESPONDING!

> "Muslim Americans for Obama '08" are a swift boat splinter group

The swift boat outing was the best thing that ever happened to Kerry. He
finally learned the hard way what a jerk he was. Thank God there are some
Americans who do not fall for the liberal pap of the liberal media.

B. Hussein has yet to be vetted. Who knows what we will discover about him?
Frankly, I do not see how anyone could come out of Chicago politics and not
be corrupt!
[...]

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan

01-04-1970, 04:49 AM

"ScottyFLL" <ScottyFLL1@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:8f8f0cda-cb7b-4487-ad98-371522074d74@q33g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 6, 2:29?am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Hank" <h...@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
>
> news:4146936f-8373-46b5-b807-a13cb7aa2879@e31g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 5, 9:28 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > By the way, B. HusseinObamahad aMuslimfather and went to aMuslim
> > school
> > in Indonesia. This was of the Whahabi sect, the worst form of Islam. Let
> > us
> > hope that my gal Hillary kicks his ass but good!
>
> >>Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
>
> secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
> school, most of his classmates wereMuslim, but it was not aMuslim
> school.
>
> Is B. HusseinObamathen a Roman Catholic?
>
> What do you make of the following information?
>
> "Investigations have shown thatObama'sfather and stepfather were devout
> Islamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. His stepfather,
> wh o had a much greater impact onObama'supbringing, was a radical
> WahabbiMuslim.Obama'smother married Lolo Soetoro, a Wahabbi
> extremist who lived in Indonesia. WhenObama'smother moved to
> Indonesia - before she married her secondMuslimhusband - she enrolled
> her son in Francis Assisis Catholic School. He was enrolled as aMuslim
> because he was aMuslim." By Michael Reisig
>
> >>Next, you'll be telling me he's Jewish. After all, the former Israeli
>
> prime minister is named Ehud Barak.
>
> Barak HusseinObamais an ArabMuslimname. Some folks even get him confused
> with Osama Bin Laden!
>
> Also, what do you make of this?
>
> "Obama'scampaign website has been hailed as a testament to the
> candidate's transformative politics. But at least part of the senator's
> online outreach, "MuslimAmericans forObama'08" proposes
> installingMuslimprayer areas in public places and giving Muslims time off
> for
> prayer, and has denouncedObama'scolleagues in the U.S. Senate who
> happen to be Jewish." By Michael Reisig
>
> In any event, it is insane to suppose that B. HusseinObamawas not deeply
> influenced by hisMuslimbackground. His mother apparently had a thing
> forMuslimmen since she married two of them! She must have been a real
> kook!

I wouldn't vote for anybody that has even a hint
of that Satanic religion in their family history.
I wouldn't vote for a nigger anyway, but that is
beside the point.

Edward Dolan wrote:

Scotty is a genius and has got it right. Thank God folks like Scotty are
still in the majority in this country. Never trust an intellectual on
anything not directly related to his field of expertise. The last
intellectual we had as president was Wilson who proved to be a disaster. How
anyone with a Ph.D. could have been such a dunce of a president is a wonder
to behold.

By the way, B. Hussein is half-White, but apparently it is all the rage to
be Black these days. His father was a Black Muslim and his mother was a
White kook who apparently loved exotics who lived halfway around the world.
Go figure!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

A Muzi

01-04-1970, 04:49 AM

> still just me <wheeledBobNOSPAM@yahoo.com> may have said:
>> Let's see: massive recession with stagflation and credit markets
>> tumbling, $700b pointless war continuing, imported labor (direct and
>> indirect) eliminating most US based jobs, the Constitution and Bill of
>> Rights apparently no longer observed... no matter who we elect, at
>> least it can't get much worse.

Werehatrack wrote:
> Au contraire. IMO, it can and it will, regardless of who wins. The
> real question is whether we will elect another Hoover who, oblivious
> to the concerns of the people whose plight he (or she) does not truly
> understand or actually care about, will do nothing effective to start
> making the significant changes that will be needed to build the base
> for a less wasteful, more responsible future. And make no mistake;
> digging out of the mess will take more than 8 years.

Or another Roosevelt who can take a minor dip and make all-time horrible
suffering and destitution of it.
You'd expect more of Bernanke - he wrote on this specifically. But no.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Werehatrack

01-04-1970, 04:49 AM

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:35:10 GMT, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.)
may have said:

>"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> writes:
>
>> "Hank" <hank@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
>> news:4146936f-8373-46b5-b807-a13cb7aa2879@e31g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>> >>Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
>> secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
>> school, most of his classmates were Muslim, but it was not a Muslim
>> school.
>>
>> Is B. Hussein Obama then a Roman Catholic?
>>
>> What do you make of the following information?
>>
>> "Investigations have shown that Obama's father and stepfather were devout
>> Islamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. <snip>
>
>What I'd make of it is that you are an idiot for even thinking it is
>credible enough to post, or a mindless troll if you know better.
>
>We have a presidential election coming up, and we really need to elect
>a highly capable person to fix the mess made by the current
>administration. Why don't you try to do the country a favor and
>treat it as a serious matter and not resort to adolescent innuendo?

If I didn't have him plonked, I'd treat a rant about something by
Dolan as being a pretty good endorsement of whatever he was attacking.
I'm sure I am not alone in this.

--
My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

still just me

01-04-1970, 04:49 AM

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:35:10 GMT, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.)
wrote:

>
>What I'd make of it is that you are an idiot for even thinking it is
>credible enough to post, or a mindless troll if you know better.

He's actually both!

>
>We have a presidential election coming up, and we really need to elect
>a highly capable person to fix the mess made by the current
>administration. Why don't you try to do the country a favor and
>treat it as a serious matter and not resort to adolescent innuendo?

It would probably just be better if he didn't vote.

Edward Dolan

01-04-1970, 04:49 AM

"Bill Z." <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:87od9r6ez6.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> writes:
>
>> "Hank" <hank@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
>> news:4146936f-8373-46b5-b807-a13cb7aa2879@e31g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>> >>Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
>> secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
>> school, most of his classmates were Muslim, but it was not a Muslim
>> school.
>>
>> Is B. Hussein Obama then a Roman Catholic?
>>
>> What do you make of the following information?
>>
>> "Investigations have shown that Obama's father and stepfather were devout
>> Islamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. <snip>
>
> What I'd make of it is that you are an idiot for even thinking it is
> credible enough to post, or a mindless troll if you know better.

Just presenting a few facts for you and your ilk to mull over! B. Hussein
has a profoundly serious Muslim background. Is this not relevant? Only in a
****ed-up state like Minnesota do we elect a Muslim representative to
Congress.

> We have a presidential election coming up, and we really need to elect
> a highly capable person to fix the mess made by the current
> administration. Why don't you try to do the country a favor and
> treat it as a serious matter and not resort to adolescent innuendo?

Bush was quite right to take us to war in Iraq. However, the war was badly
managed because we Americans are not nearly ruthless enough. It takes a Nazi
or a Communist to know how to treat a conquered populace. Attila the Hun is
never around when he is needed. Tamerlane would have known what to do about
the situation as well as the Mongol Khans.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Tom Sherman

01-04-1970, 04:49 AM

Bill Z. wrote:
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> writes:
>
>> "Hank" <hank@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
>> news:4146936f-8373-46b5-b807-a13cb7aa2879@e31g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>>>> Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
>> secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
>> school, most of his classmates were Muslim, but it was not a Muslim
>> school.
>>
>> Is B. Hussein Obama then a Roman Catholic?
>>
>> What do you make of the following information?
>>
>> "Investigations have shown that Obama's father and stepfather were devout
>> Islamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. <snip>
>
> What I'd make of it is that you are an idiot for even thinking it is
> credible enough to post, or a mindless troll if you know better.[...]
>
Mr. Ed the Grate a troll - say it ain't so Joe, er Bill.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

datakoll

01-04-1970, 04:49 AM

ORE ORE OOOOOOOOO

SHARPTON'S A SHOE IN AT JUSTICE

eeeyayayahahahaha

Hank

01-04-1970, 04:49 AM

On Mar 6, 7:39*am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:

>
> Ahhh, I feel a a fresh wind blowing!
> --

Ed Dolan farted.

still just me

01-04-1970, 04:50 AM

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:21:02 -0800 (PST), datakoll <datakoll@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>
>ORE ORE OOOOOOOOO
>
>SHARPTON'S A SHOE IN AT JUSTICE
>
>
>eeeyayayahahahaha

I was figuring on Sharpton for Sec of State. He's gonna piss other
countries off and cause damage to foreign relations for about the next
40 years - so figure it's just about the same as Bush.

A Muzi

01-04-1970, 04:50 AM

datakoll wrote:
> ORE ORE OOOOOOOOO
> SHARPTON'S A SHOE IN AT JUSTICE
> eeeyayayahahahaha

Can't if he's the V.P.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

datakoll

01-04-1970, 04:50 AM

indicted or impeached.

Edward Dolan

01-04-1970, 04:50 AM

"Hank" <hank@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
news:1d51ca83-9608-47a8-9643-6759f828a739@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 6, 7:39 am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:

>
> Ahhh, I feel a a fresh wind blowing!
>

>>Ed Dolan farted.

This from the anonymous Hank! Jeez, what a ****ed-up name - is that short
for Henry? No last name? Maybe Hank is the spawn of Kenyan Black Muslims
just like B. Hussein.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

datakoll

01-04-1970, 04:50 AM

On Mar 6, 11:32*am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> indicted or impeached.

THE RIGHT IS CURRENTLY developing internet information but try this

http://books.google.com/books?id=2x6NeGzs0swC&pg=RA1-PA123&lpg=RA1-PA123&dq=indicted+negro+politicians&source=web&ots=Kl5fi4n3Pp&sig=JKI0L8e9_0NfErz08XQSscq8hpg&hl=en

Edward Dolan

01-04-1970, 04:50 AM

"Werehatrack" <rault00@earthWEEDSlink.net> wrote in message
news:ju70t35kc8614mfa6c0gctrdc26l7e2btg@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:35:10 GMT, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.)
> may have said:
>
>>"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> writes:
>>
>>> "Hank" <hank@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4146936f-8373-46b5-b807-a13cb7aa2879@e31g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> >>Not true. While in Indonesia, he went to two schools: one was a public
>>> secular one, the other was Catholic. It is true that at the public
>>> school, most of his classmates were Muslim, but it was not a Muslim
>>> school.
>>>
>>> Is B. Hussein Obama then a Roman Catholic?
>>>
>>> What do you make of the following information?
>>>
>>> "Investigations have shown that Obama's father and stepfather were
>>> devout
>>> Islamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. <snip>
>>
>>What I'd make of it is that you are an idiot for even thinking it is
>>credible enough to post, or a mindless troll if you know better.
>>
>>We have a presidential election coming up, and we really need to elect
>>a highly capable person to fix the mess made by the current
>>administration. Why don't you try to do the country a favor and
>>treat it as a serious matter and not resort to adolescent innuendo?
>
> If I didn't have him plonked, I'd treat a rant about something by
> Dolan as being a pretty good endorsement of whatever he was attacking.
> I'm sure I am not alone in this.

The ultimate solution to all the problems in the world is to carpet atom
bomb all the Muslim lands. Of course, this may mean that we will all go the
way of the Dodo Bird, but really, when you think about it, is not blessed
death to be preferred to miserable life? Yea, I think the sooner we humans
get off the earth, the better it will be for all the other animals. Who
knows, maybe even the dinosaurs will come back!

"Once I wasn't, then I was, now I ain't again."

- Epitaph found on tombstone in Ohio graveyard

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Peter Cole

01-04-1970, 04:50 AM

A Muzi wrote:
>> still just me <wheeledBobNOSPAM@yahoo.com> may have said:
>>> Let's see: massive recession with stagflation and credit markets
>>> tumbling, $700b pointless war continuing, imported labor (direct and
>>> indirect) eliminating most US based jobs, the Constitution and Bill of
>>> Rights apparently no longer observed... no matter who we elect, at
>>> least it can't get much worse.
>
> Werehatrack wrote:
>> Au contraire. IMO, it can and it will, regardless of who wins. The
>> real question is whether we will elect another Hoover who, oblivious
>> to the concerns of the people whose plight he (or she) does not truly
>> understand or actually care about, will do nothing effective to start
>> making the significant changes that will be needed to build the base
>> for a less wasteful, more responsible future. And make no mistake;
>> digging out of the mess will take more than 8 years.
>
> Or another Roosevelt who can take a minor dip and make all-time horrible
> suffering and destitution of it.
> You'd expect more of Bernanke - he wrote on this specifically. But no.

Yes, he did, He's a smart guy, and apparently the Great Depression is
one of his favorite subjects, but he blamed the Federal Reserve, not the
president:

Bernanke from:
http://foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3272

"A closer look reveals that the economic repercussions of a stock market
crash depend less on the severity of the crash itself than on the
response of economic policymakers, particularly central bankers. After
the 1929 crash, the Federal Reserve mistakenly focused its policies on
preserving the gold value of the dollar rather than on stabilizing the
domestic economy. By raising interest rates to protect the dollar,
policymakers contributed to soaring unemployment and severe price
deflation. The U.S. central bank only compounded its mistake by failing
to counter the collapse of the country’s banking system in the early
1930s; bank failures both intensified the monetary squeeze (since bank
deposits were liquidated) and sparked a credit crunch that hurt
consumers and small firms in particular. Without these policy blunders
by the Federal Reserve, there is little reason to believe that the 1929
crash would have been followed by more than a moderate dip in U.S.
economic activity."

Another important factor:

"The Hawley-Smoot Tariff (or Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act) was signed into
law on June 17, 1930, and raised U.S. tariffs on over 20,000 imported
goods to record levels, and, in the opinion of most economists, worsened
the Great Depression. Economists have now generally regarded this Tariff
Act (i.e., tax increase on imported goods) as the greatest policy
blunder in American economic history, coming as it did after the 1929-30
recession and preventing the economy from a full, natural recovery which
had already started by the Spring, 1930."

"The act pioneered by Senator Reed Smoot, a Republican from Utah, and
Representative Willis C. Hawley, a Republican from Oregon. President
Herbert Hoover had asked Congress for a downward revision in rates, but
Congress raised rates instead. While many economists urged a veto,
Hoover signed the bill. Hoover had, during the 1928 campaign, pledged to
help beleaguered farmers by, among other things, raising tariff levels
on agricultural products."

"Milton Friedman, leader of the Chicago School, argued that the Federal
Reserve System did not cause the Great Depression, but made it worse by
contracting the money supply at the very moment that markets needed
liquidity. Since its entire existence was predicated on its mission to
prevent events like the Great Depression, it had failed in what the 1913
bill tried to enact.[58] Friedman explains his hypothesis on the cause
of The Great Depression and the role the Federal Reserve played in it in
his book and documentary series "Free to Choose". An excerpt of his
hypothesis:"

""Why didn't this system prevent The Great Depression after 1929?
Because from 1929 to 1930 after the stock market crashed, the Federal
Reserve system allowed the quantity of money to decline slowly thereby
throttling the monetary structure...If the Federal Reserve had stepped
in, bought government securities on a large scale, provided the cash,
the depositors would have found that they could've got their money and
they would have stopped asking for it.. Instead, believe it or not, the
system stood idly by while banks crashed on all sides. ""

"This is also the current conventional wisdom on the matter, as both Ben
Bernanke and other economists such as the late John Kenneth
Galbraith--the latter being an ardent Keynesian--have upheld this
reasoning."

"The Federal Reserve, by design, is not controlled by the President or
the U.S. Treasury; it is primarily controlled and owned by its member
banks and the chairman of the Federal Reserve."

Your guru Hayek blamed the Great Depression on the inflationary boom
cycle of the 20's, which he thought made the Depression inevitable.

There you have it: 3 Republican administrations (Harding, Coolidge,
Hoover), a bubble market (unregulated stock market), no organized labor
or social welfare system and the greatest man-made catastrophe in
American peacetime. "Laissez-faire" boom/bust* and the little guy starves.

And this was Roosevelt's fault how? Not even your voodoo economists
would claim that.

Now we've got Iraq and the sub-prime mess. Bankers and Republicans,
what's not to like? It always happens when greed and corruption run the
show.

*Laissez-faire is just a euphemism for "business-friendly". What's good
for Halliburton is not good for America.

D'ohBoy

01-04-1970, 04:50 AM

Duuds!

Anyone catch Medium this week and the thinly veiled references to
McCain's affection for the long pig?

Soylent Green - it's the other other white meat! Or perhaps he
prefers dark? The 'swiftboating' in SC in 2000 sure seemed to suggest
it!

D'ohBoy

Bill Sornson

01-04-1970, 04:51 AM

bigjimpack@gmail.com wrote:

> He's a radical muslim. Dont fall for the cover up

Little Jimmy Buttpacker proves that it IS possible to match imbecilic style
with impertinent content.

LOL

Edward Dolan

01-04-1970, 04:51 AM

"Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me> wrote in message
news:47d05273$0$24090$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> bigjimpack@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> He's a radical muslim. Dont fall for the cover up
>
> Little Jimmy Buttpacker proves that it IS possible to match imbecilic
> style with impertinent content.
>
> LOL

The fact is that no one, not even Bill Sornson, knows anything at all about
B. Hussein. How dumb is that?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Bill Z.

01-04-1970, 04:51 AM

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> writes:

> >> "Investigations have shown that Obama's father and stepfather were devout
> >> Islamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. <snip>
> >
> > What I'd make of it is that you are an idiot for even thinking it is
> > credible enough to post, or a mindless troll if you know better.
>
> Just presenting a few facts for you and your ilk to mull over!
<snip>

Those aren't facts you posted but lies, which you continued in the rest
of your mindless rant.

<thread plonk - I've more important things to do right now than deal
with some complete moron like Dolan>

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

Hank

01-04-1970, 04:51 AM

On Mar 6, 1:28 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Hank" <h...@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1d51ca83-9608-47a8-9643-6759f828a739@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 6, 7:39 am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Ahhh, I feel a a fresh wind blowing!
>
> >>Ed Dolan farted.
>
> This from the anonymous Hank! Jeez, what a ****ed-up name - is that short
> for Henry? No last name? Maybe Hank is the spawn of Kenyan Black Muslims
> just like B. Hussein.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Not anonymous at all...I posted here for years with my last name, but
recently dropped it 'cause I was getting too much spam. And I'm
spawned from German and Irish folk, mostly. I'm named for a great-
grandfather and two great-great-grandfathers named Henry, all fine
Minnesotans who remembered the Old Country.

Tom Sherman

01-04-1970, 04:51 AM

Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...] Yea, I think the sooner we humans
> get off the earth, the better it will be for all the other animals. Who
> knows, maybe even the dinosaurs will come back! [...]

The dinosaurs never died out. We just call the descendants of the
survivors birds.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Edward Dolan

01-04-1970, 04:51 AM

"Bill Z." <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> writes:
>
>> >> "Investigations have shown that Obama's father and stepfather were
>> >> devout
>> >> Islamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. <snip>
>> >
>> > What I'd make of it is that you are an idiot for even thinking it is
>> > credible enough to post, or a mindless troll if you know better.
>>
>> Just presenting a few facts for you and your ilk to mull over!
> <snip>
>
> Those aren't facts you posted but lies, which you continued in the rest
> of your mindless rant.

You would not know a fact if one jumped-up and bit you in the elbow. But
more importantly, you would not know what to make of a fact. That is what I
am here for - to tell you what to think about the facts.

> <thread plonk - I've more important things to do right now than deal
> with some complete moron like Dolan>
>
> My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

This ******* does not know what his name is, at least not for the purpose of
Usenet.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Tom Sherman

01-04-1970, 04:52 AM

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "datakoll" <datakoll@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1c2b2264-1019-496f-9132-4d0ae19f120e@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS NOR DOES HE EVEN POST ANY OF THE MESSAGE TO WHICH
> HE IS RESPONDING!
>
Nonsense. gene "datakoll" daniels is a literary genius.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“the bacteria people tuned in-as to bioengineering at the correct wave
Point” - gene daniels

Edward Dolan

01-04-1970, 04:52 AM

"Hank" <hank@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
news:29c37956-6b4b-40ea-a065-f2320de8d13c@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 6, 1:28 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> "Hank" <h...@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1d51ca83-9608-47a8-9643-6759f828a739@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Mar 6, 7:39 am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Ahhh, I feel a a fresh wind blowing!
>>
>> >>Ed Dolan farted.
>>
>> This from the anonymous Hank! Jeez, what a ****ed-up name - is that short
>> for Henry? No last name? Maybe Hank is the spawn of Kenyan Black Muslims
>> just like B. Hussein.
>>
>
> Not anonymous at all...I posted here for years with my last name, but
> recently dropped it 'cause I was getting too much spam. And I'm
> spawned from German and Irish folk, mostly. I'm named for a great-
> grandfather and two great-great-grandfathers named Henry, all fine
> Minnesotans who remembered the Old Country.

It is my feeling that once you engage in a personal attack you should be
using your full real name. Too many scoundrels hide behind user names.

I do not think German and Irish merge at all well. Most of those marriages
turn out badly, even if they are both Roman Catholic. Irish should only
marry Irish and German should only marry German. At least that way they know
full well why they end up hating one another without any misunderstanding.
Thus spake Zarathustra.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Tom Sherman

01-04-1970, 04:52 AM

Peter Cole wrote:
> A Muzi wrote:
>>> still just me <wheeledBobNOSPAM@yahoo.com> may have said:
>>>> Let's see: massive recession with stagflation and credit markets
>>>> tumbling, $700b pointless war continuing, imported labor (direct and
>>>> indirect) eliminating most US based jobs, the Constitution and Bill of
>>>> Rights apparently no longer observed... no matter who we elect, at
>>>> least it can't get much worse.
>>
>> Werehatrack wrote:
>>> Au contraire. IMO, it can and it will, regardless of who wins. The
>>> real question is whether we will elect another Hoover who, oblivious
>>> to the concerns of the people whose plight he (or she) does not truly
>>> understand or actually care about, will do nothing effective to start
>>> making the significant changes that will be needed to build the base
>>> for a less wasteful, more responsible future. And make no mistake;
>>> digging out of the mess will take more than 8 years.
>>
>> Or another Roosevelt who can take a minor dip and make all-time
>> horrible suffering and destitution of it.
>> You'd expect more of Bernanke - he wrote on this specifically. But no.
>
> Yes, he did, He's a smart guy, and apparently the Great Depression is
> one of his favorite subjects, but he blamed the Federal Reserve, not the
> president:
>
> Bernanke from:
> http://foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3272
>
> "A closer look reveals that the economic repercussions of a stock market
> crash depend less on the severity of the crash itself than on the
> response of economic policymakers, particularly central bankers. After
> the 1929 crash, the Federal Reserve mistakenly focused its policies on
> preserving the gold value of the dollar rather than on stabilizing the
> domestic economy. By raising interest rates to protect the dollar,
> policymakers contributed to soaring unemployment and severe price
> deflation. The U.S. central bank only compounded its mistake by failing
> to counter the collapse of the country’s banking system in the early
> 1930s; bank failures both intensified the monetary squeeze (since bank
> deposits were liquidated) and sparked a credit crunch that hurt
> consumers and small firms in particular. Without these policy blunders
> by the Federal Reserve, there is little reason to believe that the 1929
> crash would have been followed by more than a moderate dip in U.S.
> economic activity."
>
Mistakes and blunders by the Federal Reserve? I do not believe it for a
second. What happened was for a purpose, and a small group of the elite
profited very handsomely from the suffering of others, by being able to
buy assets for pennies on the dollar.

> Another important factor:
>
> "The Hawley-Smoot Tariff (or Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act) was signed into
> law on June 17, 1930, and raised U.S. tariffs on over 20,000 imported
> goods to record levels, and, in the opinion of most economists, worsened
> the Great Depression. Economists have now generally regarded this Tariff
> Act (i.e., tax increase on imported goods) as the greatest policy
> blunder in American economic history, coming as it did after the 1929-30
> recession and preventing the economy from a full, natural recovery which
> had already started by the Spring, 1930."
>
> "The act pioneered by Senator Reed Smoot, a Republican from Utah, and
> Representative Willis C. Hawley, a Republican from Oregon. President
> Herbert Hoover had asked Congress for a downward revision in rates, but
> Congress raised rates instead. While many economists urged a veto,
> Hoover signed the bill. Hoover had, during the 1928 campaign, pledged to
> help beleaguered farmers by, among other things, raising tariff levels
> on agricultural products."
>
> "Milton Friedman, leader of the Chicago School, argued that the Federal
> Reserve System did not cause the Great Depression, but made it worse by
> contracting the money supply at the very moment that markets needed
> liquidity. Since its entire existence was predicated on its mission to
> prevent events like the Great Depression, it had failed in what the 1913
> bill tried to enact.[58] Friedman explains his hypothesis on the cause
> of The Great Depression and the role the Federal Reserve played in it in
> his book and documentary series "Free to Choose". An excerpt of his
> hypothesis:"
>
The Federal Reserve and other similar banks were created to take control
of the economy from the elected representatives of the people (or other
political leadership) and put in the hands of a few hundred
fantastically wealthy people.

> ""Why didn't this system prevent The Great Depression after 1929?
> Because from 1929 to 1930 after the stock market crashed, the Federal
> Reserve system allowed the quantity of money to decline slowly thereby
> throttling the monetary structure...If the Federal Reserve had stepped
> in, bought government securities on a large scale, provided the cash,
> the depositors would have found that they could've got their money and
> they would have stopped asking for it.. Instead, believe it or not, the
> system stood idly by while banks crashed on all sides. ""
>
> "This is also the current conventional wisdom on the matter, as both Ben
> Bernanke and other economists such as the late John Kenneth
> Galbraith--the latter being an ardent Keynesian--have upheld this
> reasoning."
>
> "The Federal Reserve, by design, is not controlled by the President or
> the U.S. Treasury; it is primarily controlled and owned by its member
> banks and the chairman of the Federal Reserve."
>
Indeed. The last US President to challenge the undemocratic Federal
Reserve was Kennedy, and he died a violent death before completing his
term. Coincidence?

> Your guru Hayek blamed the Great Depression on the inflationary boom
> cycle of the 20's, which he thought made the Depression inevitable.
>
> There you have it: 3 Republican administrations (Harding, Coolidge,
> Hoover), a bubble market (unregulated stock market), no organized labor
> or social welfare system and the greatest man-made catastrophe in
> American peacetime. "Laissez-faire" boom/bust* and the little guy starves.
>
The system does not exist to serve the little guy - Alan Greenspan even
admitted as much.

> And this was Roosevelt's fault how? Not even your voodoo economists
> would claim that.
>
> Now we've got Iraq and the sub-prime mess. Bankers and Republicans,
> what's not to like? It always happens when greed and corruption run the
> show.
>
It almost make one wish for a Republican president, so they can deal
with the mess they created. Of course, we may well have two Republicans
running for office this year.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Hank

01-04-1970, 04:52 AM

On Mar 6, 3:09 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Little Meow" <m...@meow.meow> wrote in message
>
> news:Xns9A59A1164A436DFB4341AB6@140.99.99.130...
>
> > "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote in
> >news:-9ydnb_xLqc-7E3anZ2dnUVZ_vyinZ2d@prairiewave.com:
>
> >> It is my feeling that once you engage
>
> >> Irish
> >> should only marry Irish and German should only marry German.
>
> > Ed Dolan should only marry Ed Dolan.
>
> The only reason for anyone to marry anyone is to sire a passel of brats. But
> even so, it is best to stay with your own kind. The more you have in common
> with your mate, the better off you will be. Do not birds of a feather flock
> together?
>
> By the way, it is not really proper to pull words out of context and then
> construct your own message out of it. Don't be a fraidy cat ... quote me in
> full and then fashion your response.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

The royalty of Europe only bred with each other, were all 4th or 5th
cousins at the farthest, and were all insane hemophiliac freaks from
their inbreeding. That's what keeping the bloodline strong gets you.

To get back on-topic, the subjects of said freakish royals brewed some
fine beers, and their descendants built some fine bikes.

Edward Dolan

01-04-1970, 04:52 AM

"Hank" <hank@wirtznet.net> wrote in message
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> On Mar 6, 3:09 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> "Little Meow" <m...@meow.meow> wrote in message
>>
>> news:Xns9A59A1164A436DFB4341AB6@140.99.99.130...
>>
>> > "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote in
>> >news:-9ydnb_xLqc-7E3anZ2dnUVZ_vyinZ2d@prairiewave.com:
>>
>> >> It is my feeling that once you engage
>>
>> >> Irish
>> >> should only marry Irish and German should only marry German.
>>
>> > Ed Dolan should only marry Ed Dolan.
>>
>> The only reason for anyone to marry anyone is to sire a passel of brats.
>> But
>> even so, it is best to stay with your own kind. The more you have in
>> common
>> with your mate, the better off you will be. Do not birds of a feather
>> flock
>> together?
>>
>> By the way, it is not really proper to pull words out of context and then
>> construct your own message out of it. Don't be a fraidy cat ... quote me
>> in
>> full and then fashion your response.
>
> The royalty of Europe only bred with each other, were all 4th or 5th
> cousins at the farthest, and were all insane hemophiliac freaks from
> their inbreeding. That's what keeping the bloodline strong gets you.
>
> To get back on-topic, the subjects of said freakish royals brewed some
> fine beers, and their descendants built some fine bikes.

Granted, one should not breed incestuously, but it is fine and dandy to stay
within the tribe with the proper controls as to whom is the proper stranger
to marry. Anthropolgy 101.

But all of this is moot from here until the end of human time since we are
now all into mongrelization. Everyone will soon be a mestizo, the worst
nightmare of Hitler. His was the last attempt to purify the races, even if
it meant killing off half of them.

It is my understanding that the Japanese may well be the purest race left on
the face of the earth except for some isolated tribes in the jungles of New
Guinea. They are that because they hate foreigners and do not let them
become part of their society. Madame Butterfly anyone?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota