Headsets

[DanKMTB@gmail.com]

I need to replace the headset on my hardtail. It's older, so I need a
1" headset. I am going to hit a shop tonight or tomorrow morning, but
I will call around at lunch to see who has what in 1" threadless.
Anyone have anything they'd suggest staying away from, or they'd
recommend? Anything in particular I should look for? I don't want
something heavy and cheesy that is going to fail soon or feel like
crap, but I don't think I want to spend for a King.

Strong, Light, Cheap - Pick any 2. Can I get fairly strong, fairly
light and pricey but not outrageous?

Also, some sites separate road and mountain headsets. What, if
anything, is the difference? The LBS's around here don't seem to make
that distinction.

TIA,

Dan

[John]

On Mar 7, 9:48 am, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I need to replace the headset on my hardtail. It's older, so I need a
> 1" headset. I am going to hit a shop tonight or tomorrow morning, but
> I will call around at lunch to see who has what in 1" threadless.
> Anyone have anything they'd suggest staying away from, or they'd
> recommend?

Tange Levin. Dirt cheap, durable and your choice of steel or
aluminum.

John McMurry
Burlington, VT

[landotter]

On Mar 7, 8:48 am, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I need to replace the headset on my hardtail. It's older, so I need a
> 1" headset. I am going to hit a shop tonight or tomorrow morning, but
> I will call around at lunch to see who has what in 1" threadless.
> Anyone have anything they'd suggest staying away from, or they'd
> recommend? Anything in particular I should look for? I don't want
> something heavy and cheesy that is going to fail soon or feel like
> crap, but I don't think I want to spend for a King.
>
> Strong, Light, Cheap - Pick any 2. Can I get fairly strong, fairly
> light and pricey but not outrageous?

Depends on what you're subjecting the thing to. $20 Shimano/Ritchey/
Cane Creek headsets all do fine by me, but I don't do any gnarly trail
riding and always rock fenders in the rain. I'd start cheap and see if
it breaks. It's not gonna kill ya if it goes bad.

[Bellsouth Ijit 2.0 - 'Roid Rage Edition ®]

<DanKMTB@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I need to replace the headset on my hardtail. It's older, so I need a
> 1" headset. I am going to hit a shop tonight or tomorrow morning, but
> I will call around at lunch to see who has what in 1" threadless.
> Anyone have anything they'd suggest staying away from, or they'd
> recommend? Anything in particular I should look for? I don't want
> something heavy and cheesy that is going to fail soon or feel like
> crap, but I don't think I want to spend for a King.
>
> Strong, Light, Cheap - Pick any 2. Can I get fairly strong, fairly
> light and pricey but not outrageous?
>
> Also, some sites separate road and mountain headsets. What, if
> anything, is the difference? The LBS's around here don't seem to make
> that distinction.
>
> TIA,
>
> Dan


Cane Creek C2

[DanKMTB@gmail.com]

On Mar 7, 1:41*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 7, 8:48 am, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I need to replace the headset on my hardtail. *It's older, so I need a
> > 1" headset. *I am going to hit a shop tonight or tomorrow morning, but
> > I will call around at lunch to see who has what in 1" threadless.
> > Anyone have anything they'd suggest staying away from, or they'd
> > recommend? *Anything in particular I should look for? *I don't want
> > something heavy and cheesy that is going to fail soon or feel like
> > crap, but I don't think I want to spend for a King.
>
> > Strong, Light, Cheap - Pick any 2. *Can I get fairly strong, fairly
> > light and pricey but not outrageous?
>
> Depends on what you're subjecting the thing to. $20 Shimano/Ritchey/
> Cane Creek headsets all do fine by me, but I don't do any gnarly trail
> riding and always rock fenders in the rain. I'd start cheap and see if
> it breaks. It's not gonna kill ya if it goes bad.

This bike gets driven to and from the trails more often than not, so
it's use conditions are somewhere between moderate and abusive. Never
any fenders, always a little mud (though I do avoid riding when the
trails are too muddy, there's always spots and puddles) and stream
crossings are standard issue. I ride lots of rocks and roots. Most
everything else on the bike is high end, though I'm not sure about the
headset. I doubt it's cheap, neither the frame nor fork are.

That said, any recommendations? Also, are road and mountain really
different?

Thanks.

[landotter]

On Mar 7, 1:01 pm, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 7, 1:41 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 7, 8:48 am, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I need to replace the headset on my hardtail. It's older, so I need a
> > > 1" headset. I am going to hit a shop tonight or tomorrow morning, but
> > > I will call around at lunch to see who has what in 1" threadless.
> > > Anyone have anything they'd suggest staying away from, or they'd
> > > recommend? Anything in particular I should look for? I don't want
> > > something heavy and cheesy that is going to fail soon or feel like
> > > crap, but I don't think I want to spend for a King.
>
> > > Strong, Light, Cheap - Pick any 2. Can I get fairly strong, fairly
> > > light and pricey but not outrageous?
>
> > Depends on what you're subjecting the thing to. $20 Shimano/Ritchey/
> > Cane Creek headsets all do fine by me, but I don't do any gnarly trail
> > riding and always rock fenders in the rain. I'd start cheap and see if
> > it breaks. It's not gonna kill ya if it goes bad.
>
> This bike gets driven to and from the trails more often than not, so
> it's use conditions are somewhere between moderate and abusive. Never
> any fenders, always a little mud (though I do avoid riding when the
> trails are too muddy, there's always spots and puddles) and stream
> crossings are standard issue. I ride lots of rocks and roots. Most
> everything else on the bike is high end, though I'm not sure about the
> headset. I doubt it's cheap, neither the frame nor fork are.
>
> That said, any recommendations? Also, are road and mountain really
> different?
>
> Thanks.

More schmutz off road. Something like a Ritchey Scuzzy Logic with cart
bearings for $50 might be the ticket if you wanna get fancy. Me, I'd
just throw a $20 Ritchey Logic in the frame and see if it broke. Put
a bit of innertube around the lower race when assembling and it might
last five hundred years. Who knows?

[landotter]

On Mar 7, 1:36 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 7, 1:01 pm, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 7, 1:41 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 7, 8:48 am, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I need to replace the headset on my hardtail. It's older, so I need a
> > > > 1" headset. I am going to hit a shop tonight or tomorrow morning, but
> > > > I will call around at lunch to see who has what in 1" threadless.
> > > > Anyone have anything they'd suggest staying away from, or they'd
> > > > recommend? Anything in particular I should look for? I don't want
> > > > something heavy and cheesy that is going to fail soon or feel like
> > > > crap, but I don't think I want to spend for a King.
>
> > > > Strong, Light, Cheap - Pick any 2. Can I get fairly strong, fairly
> > > > light and pricey but not outrageous?
>
> > > Depends on what you're subjecting the thing to. $20 Shimano/Ritchey/
> > > Cane Creek headsets all do fine by me, but I don't do any gnarly trail
> > > riding and always rock fenders in the rain. I'd start cheap and see if
> > > it breaks. It's not gonna kill ya if it goes bad.
>
> > This bike gets driven to and from the trails more often than not, so
> > it's use conditions are somewhere between moderate and abusive. Never
> > any fenders, always a little mud (though I do avoid riding when the
> > trails are too muddy, there's always spots and puddles) and stream
> > crossings are standard issue. I ride lots of rocks and roots. Most
> > everything else on the bike is high end, though I'm not sure about the
> > headset. I doubt it's cheap, neither the frame nor fork are.
>
> > That said, any recommendations? Also, are road and mountain really
> > different?
>
> > Thanks.
>
> More schmutz off road. Something like a Ritchey Scuzzy Logic with cart
> bearings for $50 might be the ticket if you wanna get fancy. Me, I'd
> just throw a $20 Ritchey Logic in the frame and see if it broke. Put
> a bit of innertube around the lower race when assembling and it might
> last five hundred years. Who knows?

Hahaha! I checked the mtbr reviews of the basic Logic and they are
terrible. That said, I've had three of them, a couple cheap Cane
Creeks, and a similar quality threaded Shimano STX and all were fuss
free. I guess I'm not that hard on them. Maybe you're a $50 price
point kinda guy?

[DanKMTB@gmail.com]

On Mar 7, 2:57*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 7, 1:36 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 7, 1:01 pm, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 7, 1:41 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 7, 8:48 am, "DanK...@gmail.com" <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I need to replace the headset on my hardtail. *It's older, so I need a
> > > > > 1" headset. *I am going to hit a shop tonight or tomorrow morning, but
> > > > > I will call around at lunch to see who has what in 1" threadless.
> > > > > Anyone have anything they'd suggest staying away from, or they'd
> > > > > recommend? *Anything in particular I should look for? *I don't want
> > > > > something heavy and cheesy that is going to fail soon or feel like
> > > > > crap, but I don't think I want to spend for a King.
>
> > > > > Strong, Light, Cheap - Pick any 2. *Can I get fairly strong, fairly
> > > > > light and pricey but not outrageous?
>
> > > > Depends on what you're subjecting the thing to. $20 Shimano/Ritchey/
> > > > Cane Creek headsets all do fine by me, but I don't do any gnarly trail
> > > > riding and always rock fenders in the rain. I'd start cheap and see if
> > > > it breaks. It's not gonna kill ya if it goes bad.
>
> > > This bike gets driven to and from the trails more often than not, so
> > > it's use conditions are somewhere between moderate and abusive. *Never
> > > any fenders, always a little mud (though I do avoid riding when the
> > > trails are too muddy, there's always spots and puddles) and stream
> > > crossings are standard issue. *I ride lots of rocks and roots. *Most
> > > everything else on the bike is high end, though I'm not sure about the
> > > headset. *I doubt it's cheap, neither the frame nor fork are.
>
> > > That said, any recommendations? *Also, are road and mountain really
> > > different?
>
> > > Thanks.
>
> > More schmutz off road. Something like a Ritchey Scuzzy Logic with cart
> > bearings for $50 might be the ticket if you wanna get fancy. Me, I'd
> > just throw a $20 Ritchey Logic in the frame and see if it broke. *Put
> > a bit of innertube around the lower race when assembling and it might
> > last five hundred years. Who knows?
>
> Hahaha! I checked the mtbr reviews of the basic Logic and they are
> terrible. That said, I've had three of them, a couple cheap Cane
> Creeks, and a similar quality threaded Shimano STX and all were fuss
> free. I guess I'm not that hard on them. Maybe you're a $50 price
> point kinda guy?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Sounds like I might be. KNowing how I am on my stuff I like cartridge
bearings. $50 is a comfy price point too, I figured I'd have to spend
at least that. If I can find a Scuzzy Logic cart bearing locally I'll
give it a good hard look. Thanks!