Ed Dolan and the French

[Edward Dolan]

"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:frt1b3$v8k$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>>> Long live Le Système International d'Unités!
>>
>> TS must have some very fancy computer fonts in order to get those French
>> letter markings.
>>
> Type as "Long live Le Syst{ALT0232}me International d'Unit{ALT0233}s!"

I tried it over and over and it did not work. Why? Because TS is not a
teacher and can never be. His every explanation is half-ass.

I did a search on the web and discovered a website which explains all of
this crap. Barring going to an international keyboard via a region of the
world, you can use the ALT settings, but you first have to press ALT, hold
and then go to the NUMERIC pad for the numbers, something that TS neglected
to point out.

Frankly, it is a fair amount of extra work to do this and only TS would ever
bother to do it. But if he is going to explain it to others, he should at
least assume that no one knows anything about anything. That is what all
good teachers do, even those involved in graduate seminars.

Ed Dolan the Great has some familiarly with the French language, having
studied it for 2 years in college. I got to the point where I could read a
French newspaper, but that was about it. But I hated the language right from
the beginning without fully knowing why. Then I went to France one day and I
learned why I hated the French language. Hells Bells, I just plain hated the
French people! They are a nation of swine. I hope the Muslims take over the
place.

The Great Ed Dolan is fed up with learning anything new. He knows enough for
one lifetime. The freaking French can take their language, accents and all,
and stuff it up their asses.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

[Michael Press]

In article <fomdnZ4B768UHH7anZ2dnUVZ_ruqnZ2d@prairiewave.com>,
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote:

> I did a search on the web and discovered a website which explains all of
> this crap. Barring going to an international keyboard via a region of the
> world, you can use the ALT settings, but you first have to press ALT, hold
> and then go to the NUMERIC pad for the numbers, something that TS neglected
> to point out.

First, I worship at The Church of the Seven Bit ASCII. That said,
Macintosh computers from day one to this have a live keyboard
viewer and an offering of standard letters beyond seven bits
by simple key press.

I hope some of the following renders for you all.

One capability is to add an umlaut, accent grave, accent acute,
carat, or bar to many letters

é è ñ ü î Š

That last critter is an actual ellipsis, not three dots.

There is cedilla, some other non-English letters,

ç å ø

and a few common ligatures.

æ ¦ Þ*þ

Alas, no ff, probably my favorite.
The rest of the two variant keyboards are
filled with some Greek letters, plus a bunch of neat signs.

¼ µ ƒ

Pound Stirling, section marker, paragraph marker,

£ § ¶

also surd, TM, circle R, ... You get the idea.

Thanks for the forbearance.

--
Michael Press

[Edward Dolan]

"Michael Press" <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:rubrum-0CE4E7.10080921032008@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
> In article <fomdnZ4B768UHH7anZ2dnUVZ_ruqnZ2d@prairiewave.com>,
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>
>> I did a search on the web and discovered a website which explains all of
>> this crap. Barring going to an international keyboard via a region of
>> the
>> world, you can use the ALT settings, but you first have to press ALT,
>> hold
>> and then go to the NUMERIC pad for the numbers, something that TS
>> neglected
>> to point out.
>
> First, I worship at The Church of the Seven Bit ASCII. That said,
> Macintosh computers from day one to this have a live keyboard
> viewer and an offering of standard letters beyond seven bits
> by simple key press.
>
> I hope some of the following renders for you all.
>
> One capability is to add an umlaut, accent grave, accent acute,
> carat, or bar to many letters
>
> é è ñ ü î S
>
> That last critter is an actual ellipsis, not three dots.
>
> There is cedilla, some other non-English letters,
>
> ç å ø
>
> and a few common ligatures.
>
> æ ¦ Þ þ
>
> Alas, no ff, probably my favorite.
> The rest of the two variant keyboards are
> filled with some Greek letters, plus a bunch of neat signs.
>
> ¼ µ f
>
> Pound Stirling, section marker, paragraph marker,
>
> £ § ¶
>
> also surd, TM, circle R, ... You get the idea.
>
> Thanks for the forbearance.

What good does any of the above do the rest of us, the 99% in the world who
use Microsoft Windows? If Apple is so great, why does it just have 1% of the
computer market? Answer me that why don't you!

Linux users are even dumber, unless you are a geek of course. I'll bet TS
(Tom Sherman) uses Linux! He probably has a Linux laptop mounted on his
Sunset Lowracer so he can stay current with ARBR as he rides his lowly
recumbent about the streets of Milwaukee.

The Great Ed Dolan is of the humble opinion that any language other than
English is so inferior as to not be worth mentioning. The rest of the world
needs to get on board with English and throw their own despicable languages
on the scrap heap of history. Yea, it will be good riddance to bad rubbish!
Thus spake Zarathustra.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

[Andre Jute]

On Mar 21, 5:08*pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:

> First, I worship at The Church of the Seven Bit ASCII. That said,
> Macintosh computers from day one to this have a live keyboard
.......

> and a few common ligatures.
>
> * * æ ¦ Þ*þ
>
> Alas, no ff, probably my favorite.

Eh? Just install a fractional font, usually named "professional", and
you get all the ligatures, including ff. Whether you will be able to
send it from your Mac over the internet to the mass of PCs using
Windoze is another story...

Andre Jute
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html

[Andre Jute]

On Mar 21, 10:14*pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:

> The Great Ed Dolan is of the humble opinion that any language other than
> English is so inferior as to not be worth mentioning. The rest of the world
> needs to get on board with English and throw their own despicable languages
> on the scrap heap of history. Yea, it will be good riddance to bad rubbish!

That's what makes Ed great, that when he is right, he is indubitably
right. They should learn to speak English.

Andre Jute
All that time wasted learning 25 or so languages -- I could just have
shouted loudly in English and waved dollar bills, like Americans do

[Michael Press]

In article
<bafd5b63-7764-4803-91e7-e3244eee71a9@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Andre Jute <fiultra@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Mar 21, 5:08*pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > First, I worship at The Church of the Seven Bit ASCII. That said,
> > Macintosh computers from day one to this have a live keyboard
> .......
>
> > and a few common ligatures.
> >
> > * * æ ¦ Þ*þ
> >
> > Alas, no ff, probably my favorite.
>
> Eh? Just install a fractional font, usually named "professional", and
> you get all the ligatures, including ff. Whether you will be able to
> send it from your Mac over the internet to the mass of PCs using
> Windoze is another story...

For real work I code it in LaTeX. The source is, guess what?
seven bit ascii.

For instance I will download a text from Project
Gutenberg, such as Northanger Abbey. Then tweak a perl
script to put in the right codings and do chapter
separation, and run it through a TeX engine. The
engine will do total page layout on a book in a couple
seconds.

No one who had ever seen Catherine Morland in her infancy would
have supposed her born to be an heroine. Her situation in life, the
character of her father and mother, her own person and disposition,
were all equally against her. Her father was a clergyman, without
being neglected, or poor, and a very respectable man, though
his name was Richard---and he had never been handsome. He had a
considerable independence besides two good livings---and he was
not in the least addicted to locking up his daughters. Her mother
was a woman of useful plain sense, with a good temper, and, what
is more remarkable, with a good constitution. She had three sons
before Catherine was born; and instead of dying in bringing the
latter into the world, as anybody might expect, she still lived
on---lived to have six children more---to see them growing up
around her, and to enjoy excellent health herself. A family of
ten children will be always called a fine family, where there are
heads and arms and legs enough for the number; but the Morlands
had little other right to the word, for they were in general very
plain, and Catherine, for many years of her life, as plain as any.
She had a thin awkward figure, a sallow skin without colour, dark
lank hair, and strong features---so much for her person; and not
less unpropitious for heroism seemed her mind. She was fond of
all boy's plays, and greatly preferred cricket not merely to dolls,
but to the more heroic enjoyments of infancy, nursing a dormouse,
feeding a canary--bird, or watering a rose--bush.

--
Michael Press

[Edward Dolan]

"Andre Jute" <fiultra@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3273bfd1-a396-423f-9a52-821359fb11da@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 21, 10:14 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:

> The Great Ed Dolan is of the humble opinion that any language other than
> English is so inferior as to not be worth mentioning. The rest of the
> world
> needs to get on board with English and throw their own despicable
> languages
> on the scrap heap of history. Yea, it will be good riddance to bad
> rubbish!

>>That's what makes Ed great, that when he is right, he is indubitably
right. They should learn to speak English.

>>Andre Jute
>>All that time wasted learning 25 or so languages -- I could just have
shouted loudly in English and waved dollar bills, like Americans do

Hells Bells, I knew librarians in New York City who were fluent in half a
dozen languages, yet they could not say anything sensible in any of them.
Too much language learning leaves you dumbfounded. Folks who are good at
learning languages are like idiot savants.

However, it is characters like Henry Kissinger who puzzle me. Why can't he
learn to speak English without that terrible German accent? I think he does
it on purpose just to irritate me. If I have to struggle trying to
understand an accent, I say to Hell with it. If you are going to learn to
speak a foreign tongue, at least learn how to pronounce it right.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

[Jym Dyer]

> All that time wasted learning 25 or so languages -- I could just have
> shouted loudly in English and waved dollar bills, like Americans do

=v= Canadian dollars, I presume?
<_Jym_>

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[Edward Dolan]

"Michael Press" <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:rubrum-38CCD4.22563721032008@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
> In article
> <bafd5b63-7764-4803-91e7-e3244eee71a9@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> Andre Jute <fiultra@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 21, 5:08 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>> > First, I worship at The Church of the Seven Bit ASCII. That said,
>> > Macintosh computers from day one to this have a live keyboard
>> .......
>>
>> > and a few common ligatures.
>> >
>> > æ ¦ Þ þ
>> >
>> > Alas, no ff, probably my favorite.
>>
>> Eh? Just install a fractional font, usually named "professional", and
>> you get all the ligatures, including ff. Whether you will be able to
>> send it from your Mac over the internet to the mass of PCs using
>> Windoze is another story...
>
> For real work I code it in LaTeX. The source is, guess what?
> seven bit ascii.
>
> For instance I will download a text from Project
> Gutenberg, such as Northanger Abbey. Then tweak a perl
> script to put in the right codings and do chapter
> separation, and run it through a TeX engine. The
> engine will do total page layout on a book in a couple
> seconds.

No one cares about **** like this except for some very dumb and stupid
scholarly types. Why don't you get a life instead of ****ing it away on
nonsense?

> No one who had ever seen Catherine Morland in her infancy would
> have supposed her born to be an heroine. Her situation in life, the
> character of her father and mother, her own person and disposition,
> were all equally against her. Her father was a clergyman, without
> being neglected, or poor, and a very respectable man, though
> his name was Richard---and he had never been handsome. He had a
> considerable independence besides two good livings---and he was
> not in the least addicted to locking up his daughters. Her mother
> was a woman of useful plain sense, with a good temper, and, what
> is more remarkable, with a good constitution. She had three sons
> before Catherine was born; and instead of dying in bringing the
> latter into the world, as anybody might expect, she still lived
> on---lived to have six children more---to see them growing up
> around her, and to enjoy excellent health herself. A family of
> ten children will be always called a fine family, where there are
> heads and arms and legs enough for the number; but the Morlands
> had little other right to the word, for they were in general very
> plain, and Catherine, for many years of her life, as plain as any.
> She had a thin awkward figure, a sallow skin without colour, dark
> lank hair, and strong features---so much for her person; and not
> less unpropitious for heroism seemed her mind. She was fond of
> all boy's plays, and greatly preferred cricket not merely to dolls,
> but to the more heroic enjoyments of infancy, nursing a dormouse,
> feeding a canary--bird, or watering a rose--bush.
>
> Michael Press

You had better be careful or I am going to start posting voluminous excerpts
from Toynbee's "Study of History" about the import of the Muslim conquests
from the time of Mohammed. Or maybe you would prefer to hear about the
decline and fall of the Roman Empire according to Edward Gibbon?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

[Michael Press]

In article <9KqdnUFBE40pfHnanZ2dnUVZ_q6mnZ2d@prairiewave.com>,
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote:

> You had better be careful or I am going to start posting voluminous excerpts
> from Toynbee's "Study of History" about the import of the Muslim conquests
> from the time of Mohammed. Or maybe you would prefer to hear about the
> decline and fall of the Roman Empire according to Edward Gibbon?

The former. Already read the latter.

--
Michael Press

[Edward Dolan]

"Michael Press" <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> In article <9KqdnUFBE40pfHnanZ2dnUVZ_q6mnZ2d@prairiewave.com>,
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>
>> You had better be careful or I am going to start posting voluminous
>> excerpts
>> from Toynbee's "Study of History" about the import of the Muslim
>> conquests
>> from the time of Mohammed. Or maybe you would prefer to hear about the
>> decline and fall of the Roman Empire according to Edward Gibbon?
>
> The former. Already read the latter.

If you have read the latter, then you know enough to find your way around
libraries and books. I commend Toynbee to you as he is strictly a big
picture historian and you will not be wasting your time on minutiae as it
seems you are prone to do. Or do you think you are going to live forever and
can afford to waste your time on esoteric nonsense?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota