the snow in spain live now

[Dan Gregory]

mms://video.ono.com/tvcyl_c29

[Sandy]

Dans le message de news:654fbnF2ef22uU1@mid.individual.net,
Dan Gregory <dangregory@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk> a réfléchi, et puis
a déclaré :
> mms://video.ono.com/tvcyl_c29

Don't need to look - snow in freaking Maine, now!

[rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com]

On Mar 28, 9:46 am, "Sandy" <leur...@free.fr> wrote:
> Dan Gregory <dangreg...@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk> a réfléchi, et puis
> a déclaré :
>
> > mms://video.ono.com/tvcyl_c29
>
> Don't need to look - snow in freaking Maine, now!

A tad chilly out here in Berkeley, too. During last night's barbecue I
had to walk back inside and put on a sweater.

[Dan Gregory]

Sandy wrote:
> Dans le message de news:654fbnF2ef22uU1@mid.individual.net,
> Dan Gregory <dangregory@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk> a réfléchi, et puis
> a déclaré :
>> mms://video.ono.com/tvcyl_c29
>
> Don't need to look - snow in freaking Maine, now!
>
>
Ah but was there a bike race? The link is good for the Vuelta Castilla y
Leon each at 15h30 European time
Some sections of the roads looked worse than they were in Koln when they
cancelled.

[Bill C]

On Mar 28, 12:46*pm, "Sandy" <leur...@free.fr> wrote:
> Dans le message denews:654fbnF2ef22uU1@mid.individual.net,
> Dan Gregory <dangreg...@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk> a réfléchi, et puis
> a déclaré :
>
> > mms://video.ono.com/tvcyl_c29
>
> Don't need to look - snow in freaking Maine, now!

Snow and slush down here in western Mass. today too.
Bill C

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article
<b2210d0c-46c6-4794-963c-1566ddd40f10@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com wrote:

> On Mar 28, 9:46 am, "Sandy" <leur...@free.fr> wrote:
> > Dan Gregory <dangreg...@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk> a réfléchi, et puis
> > a déclaré :
> >
> > > mms://video.ono.com/tvcyl_c29
> >
> > Don't need to look - snow in freaking Maine, now!
>
> A tad chilly out here in Berkeley, too. During last night's barbecue I
> had to walk back inside and put on a sweater.

Very light, intermittent snow in Vancouver, too.

It's clear we need to convene a Sausalito posse to deal with Chung's
smugness.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

[Michael Press]

In article
<b2210d0c-46c6-4794-963c-1566ddd40f10@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com wrote:

> On Mar 28, 9:46 am, "Sandy" <leur...@free.fr> wrote:
> > Dan Gregory <dangreg...@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk> a réfléchi, et puis
> > a déclaré :
> >
> > > mms://video.ono.com/tvcyl_c29
> >
> > Don't need to look - snow in freaking Maine, now!
>
> A tad chilly out here in Berkeley, too. During last night's barbecue I
> had to walk back inside and put on a sweater.

A brother-in-law laughs at us. His sister told him on the
telephone one day that we were having a heat wave. He said
"What? Did you have to take off your sweaters?" He was living
in Louisiana at the time.

--
Michael Press

[Dan Gregory]

Dan Gregory wrote:
> Sandy wrote:
>> Dans le message de news:654fbnF2ef22uU1@mid.individual.net,
>> Dan Gregory <dangregory@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk> a réfléchi, et
>> puis a déclaré :
>>> mms://video.ono.com/tvcyl_c29
>>
>> Don't need to look - snow in freaking Maine, now!
>>
> Ah but was there a bike race? The link is good for the Vuelta Castilla y
> Leon each at 15h30 European time

Except that was the last stage - oops!
> Some sections of the roads looked worse than they were in Koln when they
> cancelled.

[rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com]

On Mar 28, 11:39 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's clear we need to convene a Sausalito posse to deal with Chung's
> smugness.

1. While you're there, check to see if Papai is still waiting at that
Starbucks.

2. Don't hate me because I live in Berkeley. Hate me because I split
my time between Berkeley and Paris.

[Fabrizio Mazzoleni]

On Mar 28, 3:10*pm, rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 28, 11:39 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It's clear we need to convene a Sausalito posse to deal with Chung's
> > smugness.
>
> 1. While you're there, check to see if Papai is still waiting at that
> Starbucks.
>
> 2. Don't hate me because I live in Berkeley. Hate me because I split
> my time between Berkeley and Paris.

http://berkeleyca.crimelog.org/

[William Asher]

wrote:

> 2. Don't hate me because I live in Berkeley. Hate me because I split
> my time between Berkeley and Paris.

Those aren't working for me. What else have you got?

--
Bill Asher

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

> 2. Don't hate me because I live in Berkeley. Hate me because I split
> my time between Berkeley and Paris.

Impossible. United has determined that there is little interest in that
particular city-pair. Not for the past 4 years anyway. The only reasonable
"Continental" option (which it really isn't) is San Francisco/London. They
can't add enough flights for that route. But not to Paris. Paris is dead.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

[Donald Munro]

rechung wrote:
>> 2. Don't hate me because I live in Berkeley. Hate me because I split my
>> time between Berkeley and Paris.

William Asher wrote:
> Those aren't working for me. What else have you got?

He's a liberal statistician ?

[Sandy]

Dans le message de news:togHj.11052$qS5.4447@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com,
Mike Jacoubowsky <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
>> 2. Don't hate me because I live in Berkeley. Hate me because I split
>> my time between Berkeley and Paris.
>
> Impossible. United has determined that there is little interest in
> that particular city-pair. Not for the past 4 years anyway. The only
> reasonable "Continental" option (which it really isn't) is San
> Francisco/London. They can't add enough flights for that route. But
> not to Paris. Paris is dead.
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Air France - SF to Paris, daily.

[Howard Kveck]

In article <47eda61a$0$17334$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, "Sandy" <leurrre@free.fr>
wrote:

> Dans le message de news:togHj.11052$qS5.4447@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com,
> Mike Jacoubowsky <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> >> 2. Don't hate me because I live in Berkeley. Hate me because I split
> >> my time between Berkeley and Paris.
> >
> > Impossible. United has determined that there is little interest in
> > that particular city-pair. Not for the past 4 years anyway. The only
> > reasonable "Continental" option (which it really isn't) is San
> > Francisco/London. They can't add enough flights for that route. But
> > not to Paris. Paris is dead.

> Air France - SF to Paris, daily.

I've done it via Delta, but was on an Air France plane.

--
tanx,
Howard

Whatever happened to
Leon Trotsky?
He got an icepick
That made his ears burn.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

"Sandy" <leurrre@free.fr> wrote in message
news:47eda61a$0$17334$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Dans le message de news:togHj.11052$qS5.4447@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com,
> Mike Jacoubowsky <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
>>> 2. Don't hate me because I live in Berkeley. Hate me because I split
>>> my time between Berkeley and Paris.
>>
>> Impossible. United has determined that there is little interest in
>> that particular city-pair. Not for the past 4 years anyway. The only
>> reasonable "Continental" option (which it really isn't) is San
>> Francisco/London. They can't add enough flights for that route. But
>> not to Paris. Paris is dead.
>> --Mike Jacoubowsky
>> Chain Reaction Bicycles
>> www.ChainReaction.com
>> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
> Air France - SF to Paris, daily.

Yes, I know. And I will likely avoid AF in the future based upon experiences
on just one flight (which, I agree, is kinda dumb). I had *finally* managed
to sleep, just a bit (and I almost never sleep on planes), about 3 hours out
of Paris. And that's when the flight attendants decided that, not only was
it time to serve what passes for "breakfast" on a plane, but that it was
also time for EVERYONE to wake up. So they went through rolling up all the
shades (seriously, leaning way over people to do it!) and seemed to enjoy
making as much clanging noises with their carts as they could manage. It was
a surreal experience.

At least that's how I remember it. :>)

More seriously, for someone 6', being able to get a seat with more legroom
on UA (E+) is of great help.

I don't know why UA has given up on Paris. They're presently shutting down
their arrivals lounge, and they've made substantial cutbacks in flights over
the years. Paris, for UA, is strictly a destination, not a hub. London is
used as a hub, and so obviously it gets a lot more attention. But why? LHR
(Heathrow) is a nightmare to get through. Hmm. LHR vs CDG. OK, you're right,
it's not as if we're comparing one airport that's on a different level from
another; the lines at CDG often make no sense as they snake through areas in
a most-bizarre fashion.

I've used London, Zurich, Amsterdam and Paris as gateways into Europe.
Zurich is nondescript, which would be a plus except that it's a bit out of
the way (unless you're heading for the Alps). Amsterdam is probably the
most-pleasant of the airports. Paris is the most fun, if you're into
people-watching. It's very easy to spot those who are there for the first
time.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

[William Asher]

Donald Munro wrote:

> rechung wrote:
>>> 2. Don't hate me because I live in Berkeley. Hate me because I split my
>>> time between Berkeley and Paris.
>
> William Asher wrote:
>> Those aren't working for me. What else have you got?
>
> He's a liberal statistician ?

That's evoking pity, not hatred.

I realize that's a bit of PKB, but it is what it is.

--
Bill Asher

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article <hqvHj.3105$p24.1700@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:

> "Sandy" <leurrre@free.fr> wrote in message
> news:47eda61a$0$17334$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> > Dans le message de news:togHj.11052$qS5.4447@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com,
> > Mike Jacoubowsky <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> >>> 2. Don't hate me because I live in Berkeley. Hate me because I split
> >>> my time between Berkeley and Paris.
> >>
> >> Impossible. United has determined that there is little interest in
> >> that particular city-pair.

> > Air France - SF to Paris, daily.
>
> Yes, I know. And I will likely avoid AF in the future based upon experiences
> on just one flight (which, I agree, is kinda dumb).

> I don't know why UA has given up on Paris.

Most likely because they can't compete with the Cheesy-jet set flying
about a zillion flights daily between the London and Paris airports.

In other words, although there's a bit of pain involved, you can
probably do the (usually very cheap) whatever-London flight followed by
a $0-100 London-Paris hop, and this is way less than the typical direct
flights ought to cost.

That leaves a route with poor economics, so most airlines abandon it,
and that leaves Air France.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

[Donald Munro]

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> Yes, I know. And I will likely avoid AF in the future based upon
> experiences on just one flight (which, I agree, is kinda dumb). I had
> *finally* managed to sleep, just a bit (and I almost never sleep on
> planes), about 3 hours out of Paris. And that's when the flight attendants
> decided that, not only was it time to serve what passes for "breakfast" on
> a plane, but that it was also time for EVERYONE to wake up. So they went
> through rolling up all the shades (seriously, leaning way over people to
> do it!) and seemed to enjoy making as much clanging noises with their
> carts as they could manage. It was a surreal experience.

Consider yourself lucky they didn't take a blood sample.

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

> Most likely because they can't compete with the Cheesy-jet set flying
> about a zillion flights daily between the London and Paris airports.
>
> In other words, although there's a bit of pain involved, you can
> probably do the (usually very cheap) whatever-London flight followed by
> a $0-100 London-Paris hop, and this is way less than the typical direct
> flights ought to cost.

Until London gets their various airports better connected (subway or
high-speed train, like the Gatwick & Heathrow Express), it's not so easy
switching from a mainline carrier to Cheesy-jet. And then there are the
various rude awakenings when you find out that the contents of your pockets
are weighed and charged for. I don't even want to think what they might
charge to carry a bike! Not that mainline carriers aren't beginning to do a
number on that one; Air France has taken the lead with charges that can run
up to $200 each way.

If only Eurostar was a bit more reasonable! I've used it a couple of times,
but not yet from the new station, so I don't know how difficult it is to
connection with LHR (Heathrow).

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


"Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rcousine-3395FF.21450829032008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> In article <hqvHj.3105$p24.1700@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>
>> "Sandy" <leurrre@free.fr> wrote in message
>> news:47eda61a$0$17334$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> > Dans le message de news:togHj.11052$qS5.4447@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com,
>> > Mike Jacoubowsky <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> a réfléchi, et puis a
>> > déclaré :
>> >>> 2. Don't hate me because I live in Berkeley. Hate me because I split
>> >>> my time between Berkeley and Paris.
>> >>
>> >> Impossible. United has determined that there is little interest in
>> >> that particular city-pair.
>
>> > Air France - SF to Paris, daily.
>>
>> Yes, I know. And I will likely avoid AF in the future based upon
>> experiences
>> on just one flight (which, I agree, is kinda dumb).
>
>> I don't know why UA has given up on Paris.
>
> Most likely because they can't compete with the Cheesy-jet set flying
> about a zillion flights daily between the London and Paris airports.
>
> In other words, although there's a bit of pain involved, you can
> probably do the (usually very cheap) whatever-London flight followed by
> a $0-100 London-Paris hop, and this is way less than the typical direct
> flights ought to cost.
>
> That leaves a route with poor economics, so most airlines abandon it,
> and that leaves Air France.
>
> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
> "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
> "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

[Bob Martin]

in 567752 20080330 081759 "Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:

>If only Eurostar was a bit more reasonable! I've used it a couple of times,
>but not yet from the new station, so I don't know how difficult it is to
>connection with LHR (Heathrow).

St Pancras is easier to get to from Heathrow than Waterloo is:
http://www.london-paris-chunnel.com/st-pancras.html