How compatible is 3 speed internal gear with sand?

[ComandanteBanana]

I intend to buy one of those, and I have a sand trail nearby. Are
those gears sealed? How about the maintenance they take.

Thanks!

[landotter]

On Mar 30, 2:09*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> I intend to buy one of those, and I have a sand trail nearby. Are
> those gears sealed? How about the maintenance they take.

maintenance? Adjust cable if shifting is sloppy. Other than that, drip
some bacon fat or suitable equivalent on the chain when it makes
noise. Replacement rear cogs and SS chains are cheap enough to not
worry, just ride.

[Werehatrack]

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:09:34 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> may have said:

>I intend to buy one of those, and I have a sand trail nearby. Are
>those gears sealed? How about the maintenance they take.

Why do I get the funny feeling that this is a troll?

If the trail is dry sand, you'll swiftly get an education in the finer
points of choosing your ride location. If it's damp packed sand, it's
like dirt; no worries, and the sand is irrelevant.

3 speed hubs are questionable for serious trail use for a variety of
reasons unrelated to sealing. Look at what the others on that trail
are using; there's probably a reason. (If no one rides there, this
may be a clue as well.)

--
My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

[ComandanteBanana]

On Mar 30, 5:12*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 2:09*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I intend to buy one of those, and I have a sand trail nearby. Are
> > those gears sealed? How about the maintenance they take.
>
> maintenance? Adjust cable if shifting is sloppy. Other than that, drip
> some bacon fat or suitable equivalent on the chain when it makes
> noise. Replacement rear cogs and SS chains are cheap enough to not
> worry, just ride.

How 'bout the sand?

[landotter]

On Mar 30, 4:51*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Mar 30, 5:12*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 30, 2:09*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > I intend to buy one of those, and I have a sand trail nearby. Are
> > > those gears sealed? How about the maintenance they take.
>
> > maintenance? Adjust cable if shifting is sloppy. Other than that, drip
> > some bacon fat or suitable equivalent on the chain when it makes
> > noise. Replacement rear cogs and SS chains are cheap enough to not
> > worry, just ride.
>
> How 'bout the sand?

Don't ingest it and don't use a wet chain lube and you'll be fine.

[ComandanteBanana]

On Mar 30, 6:19*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 4:51*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 30, 5:12*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 30, 2:09*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > I intend to buy one of those, and I have a sand trail nearby. Are
> > > > those gears sealed? How about the maintenance they take.
>
> > > maintenance? Adjust cable if shifting is sloppy. Other than that, drip
> > > some bacon fat or suitable equivalent on the chain when it makes
> > > noise. Replacement rear cogs and SS chains are cheap enough to not
> > > worry, just ride.
>
> > How 'bout the sand?
>
> Don't ingest it and don't use a wet chain lube and you'll be fine.

Regular gears are more complicated, right? I apply the lube
(motorcycle lube) with a brush to use it sparingly.

[landotter]

On Mar 30, 6:33*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Mar 30, 6:19*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 30, 4:51*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 30, 5:12*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 30, 2:09*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > I intend to buy one of those, and I have a sand trail nearby. Are
> > > > > those gears sealed? How about the maintenance they take.
>
> > > > maintenance? Adjust cable if shifting is sloppy. Other than that, drip
> > > > some bacon fat or suitable equivalent on the chain when it makes
> > > > noise. Replacement rear cogs and SS chains are cheap enough to not
> > > > worry, just ride.
>
> > > How 'bout the sand?
>
> > Don't ingest it and don't use a wet chain lube and you'll be fine.
>
> Regular gears are more complicated, right? I apply the lube
> (motorcycle lube) with a brush to use it sparingly.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-chain-lube.htm

Whatever you use, wipe chain outside dry with rag or paper towel. Lube
is on the inside where it belongs, not on the outside where it acts
like sand lure.

[datakoll]

fabricate a chain guard from 5 gallon oil jugs. also consider a wrap
around at front rear wheel from seat stay to chain stay. beat the grit
at the source-throw off from bottom front and top rear tire. wrap the
derays in electrical rear and duct tape front. clean with thinner then
alcohol first.

[ComandanteBanana]

On Mar 30, 7:37*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 6:33*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 30, 6:19*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 30, 4:51*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 30, 5:12*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Mar 30, 2:09*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > I intend to buy one of those, and I have a sand trail nearby. Are
> > > > > > those gears sealed? How about the maintenance they take.
>
> > > > > maintenance? Adjust cable if shifting is sloppy. Other than that, drip
> > > > > some bacon fat or suitable equivalent on the chain when it makes
> > > > > noise. Replacement rear cogs and SS chains are cheap enough to not
> > > > > worry, just ride.
>
> > > > How 'bout the sand?
>
> > > Don't ingest it and don't use a wet chain lube and you'll be fine.
>
> > Regular gears are more complicated, right? I apply the lube
> > (motorcycle lube) with a brush to use it sparingly.
>
> http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-ch...
>
> Whatever you use, wipe chain outside dry with rag or paper towel. Lube
> is on the inside where it belongs, not on the outside where it acts
> like sand lure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

What do you mean "inside"? So the brush method is not a good idea,
huh? Spray first, then dry outside???

[ComandanteBanana]

On Mar 30, 7:37*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 6:33*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 30, 6:19*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 30, 4:51*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 30, 5:12*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Mar 30, 2:09*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > I intend to buy one of those, and I have a sand trail nearby. Are
> > > > > > those gears sealed? How about the maintenance they take.
>
> > > > > maintenance? Adjust cable if shifting is sloppy. Other than that, drip
> > > > > some bacon fat or suitable equivalent on the chain when it makes
> > > > > noise. Replacement rear cogs and SS chains are cheap enough to not
> > > > > worry, just ride.
>
> > > > How 'bout the sand?
>
> > > Don't ingest it and don't use a wet chain lube and you'll be fine.
>
> > Regular gears are more complicated, right? I apply the lube
> > (motorcycle lube) with a brush to use it sparingly.
>
> http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-ch...
>
> Whatever you use, wipe chain outside dry with rag or paper towel. Lube
> is on the inside where it belongs, not on the outside where it acts
> like sand lure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Sorry, here it is...

http://www.wikihow.com/Lube-a-Bicycle-Chain

[ComandanteBanana]

"The best way to apply the oil is with a drip-type oil can, along the
top of the lower run of the chain. This applies the oil to the
cleanest part of the chain.

I just run the pedals backwards while applying a line of oil down the
rollers. It takes 15 or 20 seconds to oil a chain this way."

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/chains.html

This sounds easier than the other method.

[landotter]

On Mar 30, 7:52*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Mar 30, 7:37*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 30, 6:33*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 30, 6:19*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 30, 4:51*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Mar 30, 5:12*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Mar 30, 2:09*pm, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I intend to buy one of those, and I have a sand trail nearby. Are
> > > > > > > those gears sealed? How about the maintenance they take.
>
> > > > > > maintenance? Adjust cable if shifting is sloppy. Other than that, drip
> > > > > > some bacon fat or suitable equivalent on the chain when it makes
> > > > > > noise. Replacement rear cogs and SS chains are cheap enough to not
> > > > > > worry, just ride.
>
> > > > > How 'bout the sand?
>
> > > > Don't ingest it and don't use a wet chain lube and you'll be fine.
>
> > > Regular gears are more complicated, right? I apply the lube
> > > (motorcycle lube) with a brush to use it sparingly.
>
> >http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-ch...
>
> > Whatever you use, wipe chain outside dry with rag or paper towel. Lube
> > is on the inside where it belongs, not on the outside where it acts
> > like sand lure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Sorry, here it is...
>
> http://www.wikihow.com/Lube-a-Bicycle-Chain

Spray or drip. It doesn't really matter, as long as the outside of the
chain is dry. With a gear hub, lube just serves to prevent rust and to
quiet the chain. I usually just run a cheap KMC nickel chain with such
a rig and rarely if ever give it any attention. Model Z410 is cheap
and available at just about any bike/bmx/skate shop.

[jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org]

Someone sniped anonymously:

>>>>>>> I intend to buy one of those, and I have a sand trail
>>>>>>> nearby. Are those gears sealed? How about the maintenance they
>>>>>>> take.

>>>>>> maintenance? Adjust cable if shifting is sloppy. Other than
>>>>>> that, drip some bacon fat or suitable equivalent on the chain
>>>>>> when it makes noise. Replacement rear cogs and SS chains are
>>>>>> cheap enough to not worry, just ride.

>>>>> How 'bout the sand?

>>>> Don't ingest it and don't use a wet chain lube and you'll be fine.

>>> Regular gears are more complicated, right? I apply the lube
>>> (motorcycle lube) with a brush to use it sparingly.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-ch...

>> Whatever you use, wipe chain outside dry with rag or paper
>> towel. Lube is on the inside where it belongs, not on the outside
>> where it acts like sand lure.- Hide quoted text -

> Sorry, here it is...

http://www.wikihow.com/Lube-a-Bicycle-Chain

That's a compendium of myth and lore of chain care. I suppose it is
best that the author remain nameless, considering the amount of bad
information the article contains. It starts out with irrelevant
preparing the floor of the work area as though the chain naturally
drips with oil and drops debris. Then it goes on how to drive the
surface debris can be worked into the pins and sleeves of the chain by
rubbing it in with a rag. It enumerates a ritual list that does the
chain no good but might make the perpetrator feel good about external
appearance of the chain.

To clean a chain, it must come off the bicycle to be agitated in a
solvent bath until internal grit is washed out. By that time the
exterior of the chain will be clean anyway unless it had been run
unlubricated a long time.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/chain-care.html

Jobst Brandt

[ComandanteBanana]

On Mar 30, 9:32*pm, jobst.bra...@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
> Someone sniped anonymously:
>
> >>>>>>> I intend to buy one of those, and I have a sand trail
> >>>>>>> nearby. Are those gears sealed? How about the maintenance they
> >>>>>>> take.
> >>>>>> maintenance? Adjust cable if shifting is sloppy. Other than
> >>>>>> that, drip some bacon fat or suitable equivalent on the chain
> >>>>>> when it makes noise. Replacement rear cogs and SS chains are
> >>>>>> cheap enough to not worry, just ride.
> >>>>> How 'bout the sand?
> >>>> Don't ingest it and don't use a wet chain lube and you'll be fine.
> >>> Regular gears are more complicated, right? I apply the lube
> >>> (motorcycle lube) with a brush to use it sparingly.
>
> *http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-ch....
>
> >> Whatever you use, wipe chain outside dry with rag or paper
> >> towel. Lube is on the inside where it belongs, not on the outside
> >> where it acts like sand lure.- Hide quoted text -
> > Sorry, here it is...
>
> *http://www.wikihow.com/Lube-a-Bicycle-Chain
>
> That's a compendium of myth and lore of chain care. *I suppose it is
> best that the author remain nameless, considering the amount of bad
> information the article contains. *It starts out with irrelevant
> preparing the floor of the work area as though the chain naturally
> drips with oil and drops debris. *Then it goes on how to drive the
> surface debris can be worked into the pins and sleeves of the chain by
> rubbing it in with a rag. *It enumerates a ritual list that does the
> chain no good but might make the perpetrator feel good about external
> appearance of the chain.
>
> To clean a chain, it must come off the bicycle to be agitated in a
> solvent bath until internal grit is washed out. *By that time the
> exterior of the chain will be clean anyway unless it had been run
> unlubricated a long time.
>
> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/chain-care.html
>
> Jobst Brandt

I see. But my technique with the brush seems to make sense: less mess
and better application of the lube, no?

[Paul M. Hobson]

> On Mar 30, 9:32 pm, jobst.bra...@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
>> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/chain-care.html
>>
>> Jobst Brandt

ComandanteBanana wrote:
> I see. But my technique with the brush seems to make sense: less mess
> and better application of the lube, no?

No.

--
Paul M. Hobson
..:change the f to ph to reply:.

[landotter]

On Mar 31, 10:41*am, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Mar 30, 9:32*pm, jobst.bra...@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
>
>
>
> > Someone sniped anonymously:
>
> > >>>>>>> I intend to buy one of those, and I have a sand trail
> > >>>>>>> nearby. Are those gears sealed? How about the maintenance they
> > >>>>>>> take.
> > >>>>>> maintenance? Adjust cable if shifting is sloppy. Other than
> > >>>>>> that, drip some bacon fat or suitable equivalent on the chain
> > >>>>>> when it makes noise. Replacement rear cogs and SS chains are
> > >>>>>> cheap enough to not worry, just ride.
> > >>>>> How 'bout the sand?
> > >>>> Don't ingest it and don't use a wet chain lube and you'll be fine.
> > >>> Regular gears are more complicated, right? I apply the lube
> > >>> (motorcycle lube) with a brush to use it sparingly.
>
> > *http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-ch....
>
> > >> Whatever you use, wipe chain outside dry with rag or paper
> > >> towel. Lube is on the inside where it belongs, not on the outside
> > >> where it acts like sand lure.- Hide quoted text -
> > > Sorry, here it is...
>
> > *http://www.wikihow.com/Lube-a-Bicycle-Chain
>
> > That's a compendium of myth and lore of chain care. *I suppose it is
> > best that the author remain nameless, considering the amount of bad
> > information the article contains. *It starts out with irrelevant
> > preparing the floor of the work area as though the chain naturally
> > drips with oil and drops debris. *Then it goes on how to drive the
> > surface debris can be worked into the pins and sleeves of the chain by
> > rubbing it in with a rag. *It enumerates a ritual list that does the
> > chain no good but might make the perpetrator feel good about external
> > appearance of the chain.
>
> > To clean a chain, it must come off the bicycle to be agitated in a
> > solvent bath until internal grit is washed out. *By that time the
> > exterior of the chain will be clean anyway unless it had been run
> > unlubricated a long time.
>
> >http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/chain-care.html
>
> > Jobst Brandt
>
> I see. But my technique with the brush seems to make sense: less mess
> and better application of the lube, no?

It's a three speed. You're over-analyzing this. Lube yearly, replace
chain if it rusts off.

[ComandanteBanana]

On Mar 31, 12:22*pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 31, 10:41*am, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 30, 9:32*pm, jobst.bra...@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
>
> > > Someone sniped anonymously:
>
> > > >>>>>>> I intend to buy one of those, and I have a sand trail
> > > >>>>>>> nearby. Are those gears sealed? How about the maintenance they
> > > >>>>>>> take.
> > > >>>>>> maintenance? Adjust cable if shifting is sloppy. Other than
> > > >>>>>> that, drip some bacon fat or suitable equivalent on the chain
> > > >>>>>> when it makes noise. Replacement rear cogs and SS chains are
> > > >>>>>> cheap enough to not worry, just ride.
> > > >>>>> How 'bout the sand?
> > > >>>> Don't ingest it and don't use a wet chain lube and you'll be fine..
> > > >>> Regular gears are more complicated, right? I apply the lube
> > > >>> (motorcycle lube) with a brush to use it sparingly.
>
> > > *http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-ch...
>
> > > >> Whatever you use, wipe chain outside dry with rag or paper
> > > >> towel. Lube is on the inside where it belongs, not on the outside
> > > >> where it acts like sand lure.- Hide quoted text -
> > > > Sorry, here it is...
>
> > > *http://www.wikihow.com/Lube-a-Bicycle-Chain
>
> > > That's a compendium of myth and lore of chain care. *I suppose it is
> > > best that the author remain nameless, considering the amount of bad
> > > information the article contains. *It starts out with irrelevant
> > > preparing the floor of the work area as though the chain naturally
> > > drips with oil and drops debris. *Then it goes on how to drive the
> > > surface debris can be worked into the pins and sleeves of the chain by
> > > rubbing it in with a rag. *It enumerates a ritual list that does the
> > > chain no good but might make the perpetrator feel good about external
> > > appearance of the chain.
>
> > > To clean a chain, it must come off the bicycle to be agitated in a
> > > solvent bath until internal grit is washed out. *By that time the
> > > exterior of the chain will be clean anyway unless it had been run
> > > unlubricated a long time.
>
> > >http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/chain-care.html
>
> > > Jobst Brandt
>
> > I see. But my technique with the brush seems to make sense: less mess
> > and better application of the lube, no?
>
> It's a three speed. You're over-analyzing this. Lube yearly, replace
> chain if it rusts off.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hey, I've got two more with regular gears. Why you say the brush is no
good?

[datakoll]

WELL, let snot hogg the interent on this
listen, if yawl wanna see what goes
clean chain jiggling in thinner twice checking after the first
jiggling wash for sand in between the side plates. eyeyahahahha
waiy'll you try that. grab the chain and twist laterally across the
chain top and bottom so the side plates pinch the other. sand ill go c
\/runch c/\runch

then when there's no crunch crunch. place chain in large can with
valvoline synth or regular transmission oil on bottom to cover chain.
heat on woodstove or electric hotplate until toasty say 200 degress.
swirl chain. remove when at 120 degrees, let drip dry and cool

that''ll run lika cheetah

and give a good idea what that sands adoin' in the chain

[ComandanteBanana]

On Mar 31, 6:13*pm, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> WELL, let snot hogg the interent on this
> listen, if yawl wanna see what goes
> clean chain jiggling in thinner twice checking after the first
> jiggling wash for sand in between the side plates. eyeyahahahha
> waiy'll you try that. grab the chain and twist laterally across the
> chain top and bottom so the side plates pinch the other. sand ill go c
> \/runch c/\runch
>
> then when there's no crunch crunch. place chain in large can with
> valvoline synth or regular transmission oil on bottom to cover chain.
> heat on woodstove or electric hotplate until toasty say 200 degress.
> swirl chain. remove when at 120 degrees, let drip dry and cool
>
> that''ll run lika cheetah
>
> and give a good idea what that sands adoin' in the chain

It sounds like a simple recipe... I guess no microwave, huh?

[Tom Sherman]

datakoll aka gene daniels wrote:
> WELL, let snot hogg the interent on this
> listen, if yawl wanna see what goes
> clean chain jiggling in thinner twice checking after the first
> jiggling wash for sand in between the side plates. eyeyahahahha
> waiy'll you try that. grab the chain and twist laterally across the
> chain top and bottom so the side plates pinch the other. sand ill go c
> \/runch c/\runch
>
> then when there's no crunch crunch. place chain in large can with
> valvoline synth or regular transmission oil on bottom to cover chain.
> heat on woodstove or electric hotplate until toasty say 200 degress.
> swirl chain. remove when at 120 degrees, let drip dry and cool
>
> that''ll run lika cheetah
>
> and give a good idea what that sands adoin' in the chain

“ever get suspicious about chain saw oil attracting wood dust?
generally mucking up after two cuts?
try dumping hot oil into a container just right sized for inserting
the running blade on the job. rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....
plus 750 rpm! ” - gene daniels

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

[datakoll]

use pliers

[donquijote1954]

(ComandanteBanana)

This one wouldn't have a problem with the chain though: It has no
chain!

http://www.abikestore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=tritonpro&Category_Code=&Store_Code=abs

Would the front wheel though have traction in the sand?

[Brian Huntley]

On Apr 1, 10:05 am, donquijote1954 <nolionnoprob...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> (ComandanteBanana)
>
> This one wouldn't have a problem with the chain though: It has no
> chain!
>
> http://www.abikestore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_...
>
> Would the front wheel though have traction in the sand?

Geeze, does Mattel know about this? (Or whoever the heck made the "Big
Wheel" back in the 70's.)

[ComandanteBanana]

On Apr 1, 3:10*pm, Werehatrack <raul...@earthWEEDSlink.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:09:34 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> may have said:
>
> >I intend to buy one of those, and I have a sand trail nearby. Are
> >those gears sealed? How about the maintenance they take.
>
> Why do I get the funny feeling that this is a troll?
>
> If the trail is dry sand, you'll swiftly get an education in the finer
> points of choosing your ride location. *If it's damp packed sand, it's
> like dirt; no worries, and the sand is irrelevant.
>
> 3 speed hubs are questionable for serious trail use for a variety of
> reasons unrelated to sealing. *Look at what the others on that trail
> are using; there's probably a reason. *(If no one rides there, this
> may be a clue as well.)
>
> --
> My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
> Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
> Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

This is only a beach trail where people ride whatever, but I don't
want to go through the trouble of heavy duty cleaning. I could use the
mountain bike, but I have a 3 speed that's safer being lower and also
less maintenance. On top of that I'm considering a 3 speed trike to
use at the same place. This one with no chain is simpler but I don't
think it would grab on the sand. IT'S NOT LOOSE SAND, EXCEPT FOR A FEW
SPOTS.

[Werehatrack]

On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:56:50 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> may have said:

>This is only a beach trail where people ride whatever, but I don't
>want to go through the trouble of heavy duty cleaning. I could use the
>mountain bike, but I have a 3 speed that's safer being lower and also
>less maintenance. On top of that I'm considering a 3 speed trike to
>use at the same place. This one with no chain is simpler but I don't
>think it would grab on the sand. IT'S NOT LOOSE SAND, EXCEPT FOR A FEW
>SPOTS.

Okay. Packed, level sand = no worries for a three speed, but if you
can enclose the chain completely, it'll be even better. The hub is
pretty well sealed against sand and crud, but the chain isn't, and
beaches still have the salt problem; rental bikes down in Galveston
are typically rusted beyond usefulness in a year or so, even if they
never get south of the Seawall. (They favor single-speeds for that
duty, for a variety of good reasons.)


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[ComandanteBanana]

On Apr 1, 9:39*pm, Brian Huntley <brian_hunt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 1, 10:05 am, donquijote1954 <nolionnoprob...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > (ComandanteBanana)
>
> > This one wouldn't have a problem with the chain though: It has no
> > chain!
>
> >http://www.abikestore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_....
>
> > Would the front wheel though have traction in the sand?
>
> Geeze, does Mattel know about this? (Or whoever the heck made the "Big
> Wheel" back in the 70's.)

This is the other option...

http://www.schwinnbike.com/products/bikes_detail.php?id=1100

Which I can also get as a single speed.

Which one would be better for the sand?

[ComandanteBanana]

On Apr 2, 11:52*pm, Werehatrack <raul...@earthWEEDSlink.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:56:50 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> may have said:
>
> >This is only a beach trail where people ride whatever, but I don't
> >want to go through the trouble of heavy duty cleaning. I could use the
> >mountain bike, but I have a 3 speed that's safer being lower and also
> >less maintenance. On top of that I'm considering a 3 speed trike to
> >use at the same place. This one with no chain is simpler but I don't
> >think it would grab on the sand. IT'S NOT LOOSE SAND, EXCEPT FOR A FEW
> >SPOTS.
>
> Okay. *Packed, level sand = no worries for a three speed, but if you
> can enclose the chain completely, it'll be even better. *The hub is
> pretty well sealed against sand and crud, but the chain isn't, and
> beaches still have the salt problem; rental bikes down in Galveston
> are typically rusted beyond usefulness in a year or so, even if they
> never get south of the Seawall. *(They favor single-speeds for that
> duty, for a variety of good reasons.)
>
> --
> My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
> Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
> Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

Wow, THAT'S an answer. I prefer though the semi-recumbent style (you
sit lower), which performs better with 3 speeds. So I guess that's a
good compromise. Thanks!

[ComandanteBanana]

On Apr 3, 9:20*am, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 2, 11:52*pm, Werehatrack <raul...@earthWEEDSlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:56:50 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
> > <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> may have said:
>
> > >This is only a beach trail where people ride whatever, but I don't
> > >want to go through the trouble of heavy duty cleaning. I could use the
> > >mountain bike, but I have a 3 speed that's safer being lower and also
> > >less maintenance. On top of that I'm considering a 3 speedtriketo
> > >use at the same place. This one with no chain is simpler but I don't
> > >think it would grab on the sand. IT'S NOT LOOSE SAND, EXCEPT FOR A FEW
> > >SPOTS.
>
> > Okay. *Packed, level sand = no worries for a three speed, but if you
> > can enclose the chain completely, it'll be even better. *The hub is
> > pretty well sealed against sand and crud, but the chain isn't, and
> > beaches still have the salt problem; rental bikes down in Galveston
> > are typically rusted beyond usefulness in a year or so, even if they
> > never get south of the Seawall. *(They favor single-speeds for that
> > duty, for a variety of good reasons.)
>
> > --
> > My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
> > Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
> > Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.
>
> Wow, THAT'S an answer. I prefer though the semi-recumbent style (you
> sit lower), which performs better with 3 speeds. So I guess that's a
> good compromise. Thanks!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

OK, I finally got the trike and it was a blast on the sand. I got
other bikes but I love this one. I did 14 miles today.

3 speed internal gear, pedal forward (lower center of gravity), and
tons of storage. And stylish to boot. Thanks all!