No Tour of the USA

[Tom Kunich]

Dr. Frank Arokiasamy announced that there would be no Tour of America in
2008 and that he would concentrate on making it for 2009.

I was hoping that he would make it a real thing but not the way he had
originally announced it with ridiculous length stages and a 4 week race or
whatever.

I would like to see a race from the geographical center of the USA to the
corners of the USA etc. and changing each year so that every so many years,
for instance, the race would end in New York, Los Angelos, San Francisco,
Seattle, Portland, Maine, Miami - that sort of thing. That would make it a
three week race with reasonable length stages and show itself in every
corner of this country.

The USA deserves a bicycle race of that magnitude and hopefully something
like that will happen.

[HC]

Somebody please introduce Dr. Frank Arokiasamy to Mr. Michael Ball.



"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
news:YbOdnRMOisPfoGnanZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@earthlink.co m...
> Dr. Frank Arokiasamy announced that there would be no Tour of America in
> 2008 and that he would concentrate on making it for 2009.
>
> I was hoping that he would make it a real thing but not the way he had
> originally announced it with ridiculous length stages and a 4 week race or
> whatever.
>
> I would like to see a race from the geographical center of the USA to the
> corners of the USA etc. and changing each year so that every so many
> years, for instance, the race would end in New York, Los Angelos, San
> Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Maine, Miami - that sort of thing. That
> would make it a three week race with reasonable length stages and show
> itself in every corner of this country.
>
> The USA deserves a bicycle race of that magnitude and hopefully something
> like that will happen.
>

[Geraard Spergen]

Tom Kunich wrote:

>
> I would like to see a race from the geographical center of the USA to
> the corners of the USA etc. and changing each year so that every so many
> years, for instance, the race would end in New York, Los Angelos, San
> Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Maine, Miami - that sort of thing. That
> would make it a three week race with reasonable length stages and show
> itself in every corner of this country.
>
> The USA deserves a bicycle race of that magnitude and hopefully
> something like that will happen.
>

A series of classic type races with venues all over the country and a
sort of World Cup type of scoring system would be far more interesting
than some 4 week stage race decided by a couple time trials.

Individual regions could invite local teams. National teams could
participate in most all of the races; Euro teams could come when they
wanted to. Sprinters could sit out mountainous events. No one would
have to worry about making time cuts. Each race would stand on its own
plus contribute to the overall cup competition.

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article <J4XIj.222$6k4.122@newsfe07.lga>,
"HC" <hchchchchchc@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
> news:YbOdnRMOisPfoGnanZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@earthlink.co m...
> > Dr. Frank Arokiasamy announced that there would be no Tour of America in
> > 2008 and that he would concentrate on making it for 2009.

Shocked! Shocked! Nah, not even shocked.

> > I was hoping that he would make it a real thing but not the way he had
> > originally announced it with ridiculous length stages and a 4 week race or
> > whatever.

The original plan was so outrageously naive (RAAM lite with a $30M
budget) that it was not even audacious. I have no connections to auto
racing whatsoever. If I announced my plan to build a NASCAR
superspeedway track outside of my hometown, would anyone even bother to
care?

> > I would like to see a race from the geographical center of the USA to the
> > corners of the USA etc. and changing each year so that every so many
> > years, for instance, the race would end in New York, Los Angelos, San
> > Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Maine, Miami - that sort of thing. That
> > would make it a three week race with reasonable length stages and show
> > itself in every corner of this country.
> >
> > The USA deserves a bicycle race of that magnitude and hopefully something
> > like that will happen.

> Somebody please introduce Dr. Frank Arokiasamy to Mr. Michael Ball.

Unfair comparison: Michael Ball's ludicrous bike-racing project actually
happened. That makes him about a million points up in The Bike Game,
though I'd say that score line is Mr. Ball 250,000, Dr. Arokiasamy
-750,000.

I continue to wish Dr. Frank well, but continue to regard his plan as
not even audacious, but merely nonsensical.

My fear is that it will limp to an actual start in a shabby, half-assed
state and further discredit cycling as a legitimate venue for corporate
sponsorship.

If my evil master plan was, say, to run a cross-Canada bike race, I'd
start smaller. A stage race in the most cycling-friendly venue possible,
with a five-year plan to build it from a major regional race to a major
Continental race. How can you even hope to go to sponsors when you have
ZERO experience creating a bike race? Dr. Frank's resume has him as a
CFO for a couple of fairly large companies.

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So if you need a source for Magilla-sized family planning aids, Dr.
Frank is your man!

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

[datakoll]

gonna do a retractable speedway?

[Colin Campbell]

How can you talk about California that way?

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article
<48cccfff-54cc-4cc2-be7f-7ef3f6c1a250@13g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
datakoll <datakoll@yahoo.com> wrote:

> gonna do a retractable speedway?

An excellent idea. That way, the rest of the year the grounds can be
used to grow blueberries.

BTW, I need some seed funding. Is anyone here rich?

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

[Donald Munro]

datakoll <datakoll@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> gonna do a retractable speedway?

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> An excellent idea. That way, the rest of the year the grounds can be used
> to grow blueberries.

Blueberries ? I'd have thought flaxseed or marijuana or even hops
would be more appropriate.

> BTW, I need some seed funding. Is anyone here rich?

Use the LIVEDRUNK subscription fees.

[datakoll]

think RICE, Don, RICE
you know RICE ?

having qriiten that, occurs that asia's now eatin' Colonel Sanders KFC

I hear RC is using ah nanotube roof

[datakoll]

interesting concept: push a button, track moves to good weather at
Kent

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article
<8bccdb7c-4903-459a-a7b5-97fff38b7d4a@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
datakoll <datakoll@yahoo.com> wrote:

> interesting concept: push a button, track moves to good weather at
> Kent

Kent already has a track.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

[Tom Kunich]

"Geraard Spergen" <GSpergen@spammagnet.net> wrote in message
news:47f50af6$0$28647$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>
> A series of classic type races with venues all over the country and a sort
> of World Cup type of scoring system would be far more interesting than
> some 4 week stage race decided by a couple time trials.
>
> Individual regions could invite local teams. National teams could
> participate in most all of the races; Euro teams could come when they
> wanted to. Sprinters could sit out mountainous events. No one would have
> to worry about making time cuts. Each race would stand on its own plus
> contribute to the overall cup competition.

This is a very good suggestion as well. It does require a larger number of
promoters of course.

[Bill C]

On Apr 3, 4:11*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Geraard Spergen" <GSper...@spammagnet.net> wrote in message
>
> news:47f50af6$0$28647$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>
>
>
> > A series of classic type races with venues all over the country and a sort
> > of World Cup type of scoring system would be far more interesting than
> > some 4 week stage race decided by a couple time trials.
>
> > Individual regions could invite local teams. *National teams could
> > participate in most all of the races; Euro teams could come when they
> > wanted to. *Sprinters could sit out mountainous events. *No one would have
> > to worry about making time cuts. *Each race would stand on its own plus
> > contribute to the overall cup competition.
>
> This is a very good suggestion as well. It does require a larger number of
> promoters of course.

That actually sounds quite a bit like the top end Cross stuff. It'd be
awesome if someone put together a series like that on the road here.
Bill C