American Racing

[Tom Kunich]

It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
Tour of Georgia etc.

With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article <v5GdnQK0TLpTJ4bVnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.

It won't.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

[Cracker]

Tour of California, The Tour of Georgia etc.

"etc." = ??????



"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
news:v5GdnQK0TLpTJ4bVnZ2dnUVZ_uSdnZ2d@earthlink.co m...
> It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California,
> The Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running
> CONCURRENT with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more
> (climbing peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could
> end up changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
>
>

[Bret]

On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.

Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
simple?

[Tom Kunich]

"Cracker" <pollywannacracker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hePSj.369$JG5.260@newsfe07.lga...
> Tour of California, The Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> "etc." = ??????

On the schedule:

The Colorado Stage Race - this is a new one but could easily develop into
another big one. Let's remember that they started American stage racing in
the first place

The Tour of Missouri - another new 6 day stage race.

Other possible tours in the future:

Tour of Utah
Tour of Pennsylvania
There was also some sort of Tour of the USA that was mentioned though it was
a bit overambitious. On the other hand, what if they developed it into a 6
week Tour? Man that would make it easily the greatest bicycle race in
history.

[Bret]

On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> > since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> > Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> > With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> > with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> > peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> > changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
>
> Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> simple?

There isn't one is there?

[Scott]

On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> > since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> > Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> > With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> > with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> > peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> > changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
>
> Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> simple?

Why do you have to always be so argumentative???

I suppose you could start in Salinas, KS and finish at the top of
Sunshine? The combination of the distance, headwind, and finishing
climb could make it pretty tough, eh?

[bjw@mambo.ucolick.org]

On May 3, 10:55*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > > It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> > > since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> > > Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> > > With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> > > with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> > > peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> > > changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
>
> > Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> > simple?
>
> There isn't one is there?

Send them up Longs Peak.

Ben
think of it as a really long run-up

[Bret]

On May 4, 1:46*am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
wrote:
> On May 3, 10:55*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > > > It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> > > > since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> > > > Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> > > > With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> > > > with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> > > > peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> > > > changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
>
> > > Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> > > simple?
>
> > There isn't one is there?
>
> Send them up Longs Peak.
>
> Ben
> think of it as a really long run-up

That still wouldn't make this look easy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L51D8oI_1mE&feature=related

[Robert Chung]

On May 4, 10:11 am, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That still wouldn't make this look easy:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L51D8oI_1mE&feature=related

Universal health care.

[bjw@mambo.ucolick.org]

On May 4, 10:11*am, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 4, 1:46*am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On May 3, 10:55*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > > > > It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> > > > > since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> > > > > Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> > > > > With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> > > > > with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> > > > > peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> > > > > changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
>
> > > > Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> > > > simple?
>
> > > There isn't one is there?
>
> > Send them up Longs Peak.
>
> > Ben
> > think of it as a really long run-up
>
> That still wouldn't make this look easy:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L51D8oI_1mE&feature=related

And to think that KOM Tunich still insists the French don't
ride bicycles anymore.

Ben

[Howard Kveck]

In article <6714c89f-2bbb-4e29-a1ea-547436f32889@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Bret <bret.wade@gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 4, 1:46*am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> wrote:
> > On May 3, 10:55*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> > > > > With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running
> > > > > CONCURRENT with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more
> > > > > (climbing peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could
> > > > > end up changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
> >
> > > > Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> > > > simple?
> >
> > > There isn't one is there?
> >
> > Send them up Longs Peak.
> >
> > Ben
> > think of it as a really long run-up
>
> That still wouldn't make this look easy:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L51D8oI_1mE&feature=related

That's pretty nuts. The guy with the camera seems to get down a hill pretty fast -
if he hadn't been collected by the other guy who crashed, he'd have probably been way
out front soon enough.

--
tanx,
Howard

Whatever happened to
Leon Trotsky?
He got an icepick
That made his ears burn.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article
<a1dfc033-2d9a-4f88-a108-ed3a9bf86664@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
"bjw@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote:

> On May 4, 10:11*am, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 4, 1:46*am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On May 3, 10:55*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> > > > > Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> > > > > simple?
> >
> > > > There isn't one is there?
> >
> > > Send them up Longs Peak.
> >
> > > Ben
> > > think of it as a really long run-up
> >
> > That still wouldn't make this look easy:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L51D8oI_1mE&feature=related
>
> And to think that KOM Tunich still insists the French don't
> ride bicycles anymore.
>
> Ben

Well, those are hardly bicycles. 50 pounds, more suspension travel than
a light trail motorcycle, and more capable of taking a hit, too.

For that matter, I saw little pedaling and lots of tripoding.

Ah, I'm just trying to fan the flames. I love our down-hilling
bretheren, and their proof that head injuries don't have to stand in the
way of a healthy lifestyle.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

[Bret]

On May 4, 12:59*pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
wrote:
> On May 4, 10:11*am, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 4, 1:46*am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On May 3, 10:55*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> > > > > > since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> > > > > > Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> > > > > > With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> > > > > > with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> > > > > > peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> > > > > > changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
>
> > > > > Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> > > > > simple?
>
> > > > There isn't one is there?
>
> > > Send them up Longs Peak.
>
> > > Ben
> > > think of it as a really long run-up
>
> > That still wouldn't make this look easy:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L51D8oI_1mE&feature=related
>
> And to think that KOM Tunich still insists the French don't
> ride bicycles anymore.
>
> Ben

Yeah and that's just the crazies. There are so many people riding up
l'Alpe d'Huez that a professional photographer can make a living
taking pictures of the passing riders and selling them on his website.
He takes a few shots with his banner in the background and then hands
you a business card as you pass by,

http://fischer-wade.net/France%202005/album/slides/alpe_1.html

[Donald Munro]

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> Ah, I'm just trying to fan the flames. I love our down-hilling bretheren,
> and their proof that head injuries don't have to stand in the way of a
> healthy lifestyle.

You don't notice the head injuries if you've smoked enough grass.

[bjw@mambo.ucolick.org]

On May 4, 7:50 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > And to think that KOM Tunich still insists the French don't
> > ride bicycles anymore.
>
> > Ben
>
> Well, those are hardly bicycles. 50 pounds, more suspension travel than
> a light trail motorcycle, and more capable of taking a hit, too.
>
> For that matter, I saw little pedaling and lots of tripoding.
>
> Ah, I'm just trying to fan the flames. I love our down-hilling
> bretheren, and their proof that head injuries don't have to stand in the
> way of a healthy lifestyle.

I saw no signs of triathlism among them - no sleeveless
jerseys, dork-bars, or aero water bottles, for example.
Therefore, they are bike racers and we must welcome
them as our own.

Also, the rider shooting the video was wearing a full-up
cow outfit. Only one or two more head injuries and
he'll be ready for cyclocross.

Ben

[Bret]

On May 4, 10:11*pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > > It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> > > since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> > > Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> > > With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> > > with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> > > peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> > > changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
>
> > Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> > simple?
>
> Why do you have to always be so argumentative???
>
> I suppose you could start in Salinas, KS and finish at the top of
> Sunshine? *The combination of the distance, headwind, and finishing
> climb could make it pretty tough, eh?

Not to mention that you'd have to ride right by my house on your to
the canyon. I might get a notion to heckle you as you pass by.

I did my first cross ride of the season into the hills today. Wall
Street to the Switzerland Trail.

[Michael Press]

In article
<2c1d017c-1d48-4ec5-811d-e1e2e3c1ecc0@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Scott <hendricks_scott@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
> > > It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> > > since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> > > Tour of Georgia etc.
> >
> > > With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> > > with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> > > peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> > > changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
> >
> > Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> > simple?
>
> Why do you have to always be so argumentative???
>
> I suppose you could start in Salinas, KS and finish at the top of
> Sunshine? The combination of the distance, headwind, and finishing
> climb could make it pretty tough, eh?

What am I missing? 200 km from Salina to gain 500 m
according to the topographic map.

--
Michael Press

[Scott]

On May 4, 10:55*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 4, 10:11*pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > > > It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> > > > since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> > > > Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> > > > With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> > > > with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> > > > peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> > > > changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
>
> > > Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> > > simple?
>
> > Why do you have to always be so argumentative???
>
> > I suppose you could start in Salinas, KS and finish at the top of
> > Sunshine? *The combination of the distance, headwind, and finishing
> > climb could make it pretty tough, eh?
>
> Not to mention that you'd have to ride right by my house on your to
> the canyon. I might get a notion to heckle you as you pass by.
>
> I did my first cross ride of the season into the hills today. Wall
> Street to the Switzerland Trail.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I know it snowed a couple of days ago, but it is MAY, for crying out
loud. What the hell are you doing on your cross bike?

[Bret]

On May 4, 11:04*pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 4, 10:55*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 4, 10:11*pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > > > > It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> > > > > since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> > > > > Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> > > > > With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> > > > > with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> > > > > peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> > > > > changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
>
> > > > Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> > > > simple?
>
> > > Why do you have to always be so argumentative???
>
> > > I suppose you could start in Salinas, KS and finish at the top of
> > > Sunshine? *The combination of the distance, headwind, and finishing
> > > climb could make it pretty tough, eh?
>
> > Not to mention that you'd have to ride right by my house on your to
> > the canyon. I might get a notion to heckle you as you pass by.
>
> > I did my first cross ride of the season into the hills today. Wall
> > Street to the Switzerland Trail.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I know it snowed a couple of days ago, but it is MAY, for crying out
> loud. *What the hell are you doing on your cross bike?

The road bike doesn't handle the trails as well. I'm not the only one.
I'm seeing lots of folks trails riding on cross bikes.

[Scott]

On May 4, 11:25*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 4, 11:04*pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 4, 10:55*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 4, 10:11*pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> > > > > > since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> > > > > > Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> > > > > > With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> > > > > > with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> > > > > > peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> > > > > > changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
>
> > > > > Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> > > > > simple?
>
> > > > Why do you have to always be so argumentative???
>
> > > > I suppose you could start in Salinas, KS and finish at the top of
> > > > Sunshine? *The combination of the distance, headwind, and finishing
> > > > climb could make it pretty tough, eh?
>
> > > Not to mention that you'd have to ride right by my house on your to
> > > the canyon. I might get a notion to heckle you as you pass by.
>
> > > I did my first cross ride of the season into the hills today. Wall
> > > Street to the Switzerland Trail.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > I know it snowed a couple of days ago, but it is MAY, for crying out
> > loud. *What the hell are you doing on your cross bike?
>
> The road bike doesn't handle the trails as well. I'm not the only one.
> I'm seeing lots of folks trails riding on cross bikes.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I know what you mean. I think of my 'cross bike as a rigid 29'er and
it makes it ride even that much better!

[Bret]

On May 5, 4:36*pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <2c1d017c-1d48-4ec5-811d-e1e2e3c1e...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> *Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > > > It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> > > > since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> > > > Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> > > > With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> > > > with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> > > > peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> > > > changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
>
> > > Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> > > simple?
>
> > Why do you have to always be so argumentative???
>
> > I suppose you could start in Salinas, KS and finish at the top of
> > Sunshine? *The combination of the distance, headwind, and finishing
> > climb could make it pretty tough, eh?
>
> What am I missing? 200 km from Salina to gain 500 m
> according to the topographic map.
>
> --
> Michael Press

Maybe you stopped in the town of Sunshine? That's where the pavement
ends. The Sunshine canyon climb finishes above the town of Gold Hill.
Somewhere in between is Tyler's house.

[Scott]

On May 5, 4:36*pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
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> *Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > > > It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> > > > since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> > > > Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> > > > With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> > > > with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> > > > peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> > > > changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
>
> > > Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> > > simple?
>
> > Why do you have to always be so argumentative???
>
> > I suppose you could start in Salinas, KS and finish at the top of
> > Sunshine? *The combination of the distance, headwind, and finishing
> > climb could make it pretty tough, eh?
>
> What am I missing? 200 km from Salina to gain 500 m
> according to the topographic map.
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I'm not sure what you're talking about. Salina, KS is at roughly 1250
ft above sea level. Boulder, CO is roughly 5500 ft above sea level
(at least at the west end of town, near the start of Sunshine Canyon.
The top of the climb, 9+ miles later, gains another 2900 ft of
elevation. It's 450 miles from Salina to Boulder.

I'm pretty sure such a ride would be pretty tough, probably tougher
than L'Alpe de Huez, especially when you factor in the prevailing west
to east winds.

[Michael Press]

In article
<6e650598-c1ec-4840-b8df-82b1a8fd27e7@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
Bret <bret.wade@gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 5, 4:36*pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> In article
>> <2c1d017c-1d48-4ec5-811d-e1e2e3c1e...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>> *Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>>>> It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
>>>>> since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
>>>>> Tour of Georgia etc.
>>
>>>>> With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
>>>>> with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
>>>>> peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
>>>>> changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
>>
>>>> Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
>>>> simple?
>>
>>> Why do you have to always be so argumentative???
>>
>>> I suppose you could start in Salinas, KS and finish at the top of
>>> Sunshine? *The combination of the distance, headwind, and finishing
>>> climb could make it pretty tough, eh?
>>
>> What am I missing? 200 km from Salina to gain 500 m
>> according to the topographic map.
>
> Maybe you stopped in the town of Sunshine? That's where the pavement
> ends. The Sunshine canyon climb finishes above the town of Gold Hill.
> Somewhere in between is Tyler's house.

From Salina (note spelling), Kansas it is 400 km to the Colorado state line.
Sunshine, Colorado is near Cheyenne, Wyoming, a bit further on from
the Kansas state line.

--
Michael Press

[Bill C]

On May 5, 8:59*pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
wrote:

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> I saw no signs of triathlism among them - no sleeveless
> jerseys, dork-bars, or aero water bottles, for example.
> Therefore, they are bike racers and we must welcome
> them as our own.
>
> Also, the rider shooting the video was wearing a full-up
> cow outfit. *Only one or two more head injuries and
> he'll be ready for cyclocross.
>
> Ben

Hey Ben
If we ever get the cross World Cup stuff for Providence, Ri. you and
some of the other folks'll have to come out. We can do host housing,
and have lots of good microbreweries to make it a little easier. Be
nice if Chris Harnisch's Coonamessett race was in that time frame too,
since it's a great, low key event that goes through the beer garden/
restaurant, and they serve lots of great vegetarian food too. The
officials tend to be a bit shaky though for that one...
Looking forward to working the race again this year.
Bill C

[Michael Press]

In article
<7f052e18-d98c-45cd-9ecf-b09b96269ba0@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Scott <hendricks_scott@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On May 5, 4:36*pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <2c1d017c-1d48-4ec5-811d-e1e2e3c1e...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> > > > > since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> > > > > Tour of Georgia etc.
> >
> > > > > With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> > > > > with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> > > > > peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> > > > > changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
> >
> > > > Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> > > > simple?
> >
> > > Why do you have to always be so argumentative???
> >
> > > I suppose you could start in Salinas, KS and finish at the top of
> > > Sunshine? *The combination of the distance, headwind, and finishing
> > > climb could make it pretty tough, eh?
> >
> > What am I missing? 200 km from Salina to gain 500 m
> > according to the topographic map.
>
> I'm not sure what you're talking about. Salina, KS is at roughly 1250
> ft above sea level. Boulder, CO is roughly 5500 ft above sea level
> (at least at the west end of town, near the start of Sunshine Canyon.
> The top of the climb, 9+ miles later, gains another 2900 ft of
> elevation. It's 450 miles from Salina to Boulder.
>
> I'm pretty sure such a ride would be pretty tough, probably tougher
> than L'Alpe de Huez, especially when you factor in the prevailing west
> to east winds.

Yes, it would be tough, given that it is three times longer than
most one day stages. That is what I allude to.

--
Michael Press

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article
<0240fb55-e6e5-4d6c-8755-ad94b23ba550@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
Bill C <tritonrider@verizon.net> wrote:

> On May 5, 8:59*pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I saw no signs of triathlism among them - no sleeveless
> > jerseys, dork-bars, or aero water bottles, for example.
> > Therefore, they are bike racers and we must welcome
> > them as our own.
> >
> > Also, the rider shooting the video was wearing a full-up
> > cow outfit. *Only one or two more head injuries and
> > he'll be ready for cyclocross.
> >
> > Ben
>
> Hey Ben
> If we ever get the cross World Cup stuff for Providence, Ri. you and
> some of the other folks'll have to come out. We can do host housing,
> and have lots of good microbreweries to make it a little easier. Be
> nice if Chris Harnisch's Coonamessett race was in that time frame too,
> since it's a great, low key event that goes through the beer garden/
> restaurant, and they serve lots of great vegetarian food too. The
> officials tend to be a bit shaky though for that one...
> Looking forward to working the race again this year.
> Bill C

At the risk of repeating my themes, the problem is clearly to keep the
officials away from the beer garden until after the race.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

[Bret]

On May 6, 5:37*pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <6e650598-c1ec-4840-b8df-82b1a8fd2...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> *Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 5, 4:36*pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >> In article
> >> <2c1d017c-1d48-4ec5-811d-e1e2e3c1e...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> >> *Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On May 2, 10:50*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On May 2, 7:07*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >>>>> It may be possible to build a pretty interesting racing season in the USA
> >>>>> since there are a growing number of Tours such a the Tour of California, The
> >>>>> Tour of Georgia etc.
>
> >>>>> With another couple of Tours and say the Tour of the USA running CONCURRENT
> >>>>> with the Tour de France and probably paying a great deal more (climbing
> >>>>> peaks in the Rockies can make l'Alpe d'Huez look simple) could end up
> >>>>> changing the entire complexion of the cycling world.
>
> >>>> Which "peaks in the Rockies" do you think make l'Alpe d'Huez look
> >>>> simple?
>
> >>> Why do you have to always be so argumentative???
>
> >>> I suppose you could start in Salinas, KS and finish at the top of
> >>> Sunshine? *The combination of the distance, headwind, and finishing
> >>> climb could make it pretty tough, eh?
>
> >> What am I missing? 200 km from Salina to gain 500 m
> >> according to the topographic map.
>
> > Maybe you stopped in the town of Sunshine? That's where the pavement
> > ends. The Sunshine canyon climb finishes above the town of Gold Hill.
> > Somewhere in between is Tyler's house.
>
> From Salina (note spelling), Kansas it is 400 km to the Colorado state line.
> Sunshine, Colorado is near Cheyenne, Wyoming, a bit further on from
> the Kansas state line.
>
> --
> Michael Press

Google Maps only knows about the Sunshine here in Boulder County. BTW,
there's a Salina, CO nearby too in Four Mile Canyon. It's a strange
name for a town on a 10% grade.