Here's the America You Want

[Tom Kunich]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp

[Robert Chung]

On May 7, 4:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp

http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html

[ST]

On 5/7/08 4:38 PM, in article
zrCdnYIHU9kUoL_VnZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Tom Kunich"
<cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>

I have one of these BofA's around the corner here in the hood where I live.
It is a fricken NIGHTMARE ZOO at that place! Like a damn busy starbucks! No
other bank around here is like them in terms of the crowds. The cars coming
in and out of this place is like the DMV!! They have 3 ATMs out front that
have a dozen people in line all the time!

The only thing around here that is worse?? The damn Albertsons, they take
WIC, food stamps and all other freebie welfare handouts.

[Bret]

On May 7, 5:38*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp

It sound like free enterprise to me. What's your take on that?

[Robert Chung]

On May 7, 4:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/08/AR2008050802999.html

[Burt]

On May 7, 7:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp

Hey Kunich:

The Bank, as a private institution, should be free to offer credit to
whomever they want, at whatever terms both parties agree to.

I haven't been here in a while, but its nice to see that some things
always stay the same, and you're still an ignorant ****tard.

Thanks!
Burt

[Robert Chung]

On May 7, 4:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/08/AR2008050802999.html

[Burt]

On May 7, 7:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp

Hey Kunich:

The Bank, as a private institution, should be free to offer credit to
whomever they want, at whatever terms both parties agree to.

I haven't been here in a while, but its nice to see that some things
always stay the same, and you're still an ignorant ****tard.

Thanks!
Burt

[Tom Kunich]

"Robert Chung" <rechung@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d665cbf0-ce2b-48c7-b1fe-d9ec58d208ca@w4g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On May 7, 4:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
> http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html

It certainly demonstrates your personality that you'd believe today's
opinion of HISTORIANS!

I guess that neatly demonstrates your grasp of history.

[Andre]

On May 7, 8:39*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Robert Chung" <rech...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d665cbf0-ce2b-48c7-b1fe-d9ec58d208ca@w4g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On May 7, 4:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >>http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
> >http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html
>
> It certainly demonstrates your personality that you'd believe today's
> opinion of HISTORIANS!
>
> I guess that neatly demonstrates your grasp of history.

What does that have to do with cycling?

Andre

[Robert Chung]

On May 7, 5:39 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> >http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html
>
> It certainly demonstrates your personality that you'd believe today's
> opinion of HISTORIANS!

Let's see: climate scientists aren't to be believed about climate
science, historians aren't to be believed about history, professors of
health policy aren't to be believed about health policy, evolutionary
biologists aren't to be believed about evolution, and economists
aren't to be believed about the economy.

[Bill C]

On May 7, 8:39*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Robert Chung" <rech...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d665cbf0-ce2b-48c7-b1fe-d9ec58d208ca@w4g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On May 7, 4:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >>http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
> >http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html
>
> It certainly demonstrates your personality that you'd believe today's
> opinion of HISTORIANS!
>
> I guess that neatly demonstrates your grasp of history.

Sorry Tom, I don't see a Truman like reversal of opinion on this one.
Bill C

[Tom Kunich]

"Andre" <ANDREJANSSENS1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:53aefaa8-d949-4fc8-b5e6-03f844557540@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
>
> What does that have to do with cycling?

Andre, my apologies and I'll try to just post on cycling for now.

[Tom Kunich]

"Robert Chung" <rechung@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f8a08f19-a8e1-440c-9e8b-fe49a6bd0ff5@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On May 7, 5:39 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>> >http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html
>>
>> It certainly demonstrates your personality that you'd believe today's
>> opinion of HISTORIANS!
>
> Let's see: climate scientists aren't to be believed about climate
> science, historians aren't to be believed about history, professors of
> health policy aren't to be believed about health policy, evolutionary
> biologists aren't to be believed about evolution, and economists
> aren't to be believed about the economy.

Psst - MOST "climate scientists" deny "global warming". Most of that list of
scientists who AGREE with global warming do not have anything to do with
climate or atmospheric science.

[Donald Munro]

Tom Kunich wrote:
>> It certainly demonstrates your personality that you'd believe today's
>> opinion of HISTORIANS!

Robert Chung wrote:
> Let's see: climate scientists aren't to be believed about climate science,
> historians aren't to be believed about history, professors of health
> policy aren't to be believed about health policy, evolutionary biologists
> aren't to be believed about evolution, and economists aren't to be
> believed about the economy.

What about sexoligists ?

[SLAVE of THE STATE]

On May 8, 4:34*am, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On May 7, 8:39*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > "Robert Chung" <rech...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:d665cbf0-ce2b-48c7-b1fe-d9ec58d208ca@w4g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On May 7, 4:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> > >>http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
> > >http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html
>
> > It certainly demonstrates your personality that you'd believe today's
> > opinion of HISTORIANS!
>
> > I guess that neatly demonstrates your grasp of history.
>
> Sorry Tom, I don't see a Truman like reversal of opinion on this one.

"Even a blind pig can occasionally root up a turnip." -- Silence
Dogood

Even a poor quality historian can occasionally identify a bad
prezident.

Root around hnn. You'll find some funny looking turnips.

[Bill C]

On May 8, 11:03*pm, ST <n...@no.com> wrote:

>
> The only thing around here that is worse?? The damn Albertsons, they take
> WIC, food stamps and all other freebie welfare handouts.

I think you need to clarify this a wee bit...
Bill C

[Scott]

On May 8, 10:53*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 7, 5:38*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
> It sound like free enterprise to me. What's your take on that?

I'm generally speaking in support of free enterprise, but there are
times when common sense and/or govt. restrictions may be in order.
For example, I'm pretty sure I'm solidly against drug dealing, even if
in the strictest sense it is free enterprise. On a similar note, I'm
not sure I'm in support of corporations conducting enterprises that at
worst encourage, or at the least mitigate the hardships of, illegal
immigration.

On another note, where's the liberal outcry over the userous interest
rates that are being charged to these poor, disadvantaged people who
have no where else to turn for credit?

[Scott]

On May 8, 10:53*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 7, 5:38*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
> It sound like free enterprise to me. What's your take on that?

I'm generally speaking in support of free enterprise, but there are
times when common sense and/or govt. restrictions may be in order.
For example, I'm pretty sure I'm solidly against drug dealing, even if
in the strictest sense it is free enterprise. On a similar note, I'm
not sure I'm in support of corporations conducting enterprises that at
worst encourage, or at the least mitigate the hardships of, illegal
immigration.

On another note, where's the liberal outcry over the userous interest
rates that are being charged to these poor, disadvantaged people who
have no where else to turn for credit?

[SLAVE of THE STATE]

On May 9, 4:43*pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 8, 10:53*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 7, 5:38*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
> > It sound like free enterprise to me. What's your take on that?

At a glance, it sounds "free" to the extent it fits within the
existing legal paradigm. What if the paradigm changes?

Free banking does not exist in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_banking

In the article, note the so-called Free Banking Era in the US was not
wholesale free banking. Control was shifted to the states.

[SLAVE of THE STATE]

On May 9, 4:43*pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 8, 10:53*pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 7, 5:38*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
> > It sound like free enterprise to me. What's your take on that?

At a glance, it sounds "free" to the extent it fits within the
existing legal paradigm. What if the paradigm changes?

Free banking does not exist in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_banking

In the article, note the so-called Free Banking Era in the US was not
wholesale free banking. Control was shifted to the states.

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Fri, 9 May 2008 20:51:56 -0700 (PDT), Robert Chung
<rechung@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 7, 4:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/08/AR2008050802999.html

Ahhh, John Boehner. The man who described himself as "less tainted"
than most other GOP leaders.

[Bill C]

On May 10, 4:56*am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, 9 May 2008 20:51:56 -0700 (PDT), Robert Chung
>
> <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 7, 4:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >>http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/08/AR200...
>
> Ahhh, John Boehner. *The man who described himself as "less tainted"
> than most other GOP leaders.

Yeah, good piece. Bush is also going to veto the update to the GI Bill
because providing a better opportunity to go to college would harm
retention. I'm sure that most of you remember all the commercials
where they played up going to college while active, and getting it,
mostly, paid for as a big incentive. The realitry was, even then, that
duties really didn't allow the time to do it as the were "downsizing"
the military and almost everyone was running with massive manning
shortages, so it was a typical political promise. This time around
it's the Democrat/liberal folks, for whatever reason, looking out for
the troops out at the sharp end, and the Repoublicans and
administration looking out for the "perfumed princes" of the Pentagon,
and their corporate friends.
Bill C

[Bill C]

On May 10, 4:56*am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, 9 May 2008 20:51:56 -0700 (PDT), Robert Chung
>
> <rech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 7, 4:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >>http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/08/AR200...
>
> Ahhh, John Boehner. *The man who described himself as "less tainted"
> than most other GOP leaders.

Yeah, good piece. Bush is also going to veto the update to the GI Bill
because providing a better opportunity to go to college would harm
retention. I'm sure that most of you remember all the commercials
where they played up going to college while active, and getting it,
mostly, paid for as a big incentive. The realitry was, even then, that
duties really didn't allow the time to do it as the were "downsizing"
the military and almost everyone was running with massive manning
shortages, so it was a typical political promise. This time around
it's the Democrat/liberal folks, for whatever reason, looking out for
the troops out at the sharp end, and the Repoublicans and
administration looking out for the "perfumed princes" of the Pentagon,
and their corporate friends.
Bill C

[Scott]

On May 10, 5:37*am, Burt <burt.hoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 7, 7:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
> Hey Kunich:
>
> The Bank, as a private institution, should be free to offer credit to
> whomever they want, at whatever terms both parties agree to.
>
> I haven't been here in a while, but its nice to see that some things
> always stay the same, and you're still an ignorant ****tard.
>
> Thanks!
> Burt

That's an awfully libertarian, governmental hands-off view. Do you
really believe that's the way things work, or should work?

[Scott]

On May 10, 5:37*am, Burt <burt.hoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 7, 7:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
> Hey Kunich:
>
> The Bank, as a private institution, should be free to offer credit to
> whomever they want, at whatever terms both parties agree to.
>
> I haven't been here in a while, but its nice to see that some things
> always stay the same, and you're still an ignorant ****tard.
>
> Thanks!
> Burt

That's an awfully libertarian, governmental hands-off view. Do you
really believe that's the way things work, or should work?

[SLAVE of THE STATE]

On May 10, 8:53*am, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 10, 5:37*am, Burt <burt.hoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 7, 7:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
> > Hey Kunich:
>
> > The Bank, as a private institution, should be free to offer credit to
> > whomever they want, at whatever terms both parties agree to.
>
> > I haven't been here in a while, but its nice to see that some things
> > always stay the same, and you're still an ignorant ****tard.
>
> > Thanks!
> > Burt
>
> That's an awfully libertarian, governmental hands-off view. *Do you
> really believe that's the way things work,...

No.

> ... or should work?

Yes.

http://mises.org/images4/BenBernankeActionFigure.png

[SLAVE of THE STATE]

On May 10, 8:53*am, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 10, 5:37*am, Burt <burt.hoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 7, 7:38 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
> > Hey Kunich:
>
> > The Bank, as a private institution, should be free to offer credit to
> > whomever they want, at whatever terms both parties agree to.
>
> > I haven't been here in a while, but its nice to see that some things
> > always stay the same, and you're still an ignorant ****tard.
>
> > Thanks!
> > Burt
>
> That's an awfully libertarian, governmental hands-off view. *Do you
> really believe that's the way things work,...

No.

> ... or should work?

Yes.

http://mises.org/images4/BenBernankeActionFigure.png