Build a bicycle from the frame up - a beginner's guide

[Ted]

http://easyurl.net/BuildBicycle

[Werehatrack]

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 20:56:10 -0600 (MDT), Ted
<nobody@pseudo.borked.net> may have said:

>http://easyurl.net/BuildBicycle

It linked through to an eBay guide (not a sale listing) whose content
I could quibble with extensively over numerous matters of opinion.
The overall very broad outline isn't bad, but the writing style (I
call it "Youthful Enthusiastic Future Salesman") is one that rubs me
the wrong way. It reads like an infomercial or how-to-as-sales-pitch
in too many places, with the product placements removed. My advice:
Take it for what it appears to be; use what works for you.

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[Hank]

On Jun 3, 8:52 am, Werehatrack <raul...@earthWEEDSlink.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 20:56:10 -0600 (MDT), Ted
> <nob...@pseudo.borked.net> may have said:
>
> >http://easyurl.net/BuildBicycle
>
> It linked through to an eBay guide (not a sale listing) whose content
> I could quibble with extensively over numerous matters of opinion.
> The overall very broad outline isn't bad, but the writing style (I
> call it "Youthful Enthusiastic Future Salesman") is one that rubs me
> the wrong way. It reads like an infomercial or how-to-as-sales-pitch
> in too many places, with the product placements removed. My advice:
> Take it for what it appears to be; use what works for you.
>
> --

I liked the bit about mixing and matching brake levers and calipers,
how it can be OK to mix brands but if you keep the brand the same, you
know it will work. So I'll go ahead and mix some Dura-Ace STIs with XT
770 V-brakes.

Y'know, 'cause it's all Shimano.

[20cents]

In article <bppa44plsikpjse0hr1jb4udinq957hf3f@4ax.com>,
Werehatrack <rault00@earthWEEDSlink.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 20:56:10 -0600 (MDT), Ted
> <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> may have said:
>
> >http://easyurl.net/BuildBicycle
>
> It linked through to an eBay guide (not a sale listing) whose content
> I could quibble with extensively over numerous matters of opinion.


I remembered this website about Suzy Jackson's extreme effort to
construct a bicycle. It is a darn good read:
<http://www.littlefishbicycles.com/frame/>

The person who recently asked about making their own decals should read
this as well because Suzy did make her own.

I wish I could apply myself with such dedication.

regards,
20cents

[Werehatrack]

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:11:41 -0700 (PDT), Hank <hank@wirtznet.net> may
have said:

>On Jun 3, 8:52 am, Werehatrack <raul...@earthWEEDSlink.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 20:56:10 -0600 (MDT), Ted
>> <nob...@pseudo.borked.net> may have said:
>>
>> >http://easyurl.net/BuildBicycle
>>
>> It linked through to an eBay guide (not a sale listing) whose content
>> I could quibble with extensively over numerous matters of opinion.
>> The overall very broad outline isn't bad, but the writing style (I
>> call it "Youthful Enthusiastic Future Salesman") is one that rubs me
>> the wrong way. It reads like an infomercial or how-to-as-sales-pitch
>> in too many places, with the product placements removed. My advice:
>> Take it for what it appears to be; use what works for you.
>>
>> --
>
>I liked the bit about mixing and matching brake levers and calipers,
>how it can be OK to mix brands but if you keep the brand the same, you
>know it will work. So I'll go ahead and mix some Dura-Ace STIs with XT
>770 V-brakes.
>
>Y'know, 'cause it's all Shimano.

Heh. Missed that one. I've been slightly amused to see the new
sub-low-end "road" bikes at mass marketers with V-brakes; I'm fully
expecting to see Ashtabula cranks showing up in that category again
any day now.

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[Paul M. Hobson]

Werehatrack wrote:
> I've been slightly amused to see the new
> sub-low-end "road" bikes at mass marketers with V-brakes; I'm fully
> expecting to see Ashtabula cranks showing up in that category again
> any day now.

http://www.sebikes.com/2008/bike-detail.asp?id=45


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[Jasper Janssen]

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:10:24 -0600, Werehatrack
<rault00@earthWEEDSlink.net> wrote:

>Heh. Missed that one. I've been slightly amused to see the new
>sub-low-end "road" bikes at mass marketers with V-brakes; I'm fully
>expecting to see Ashtabula cranks showing up in that category again
>any day now.

Did ashtabula cranks ever leave the sub-$100 segment?

Besides, as Chalo has said here occasionally: the things aren't inherently
bad. Not entirely designed for a triple, though.

Jasper

[Werehatrack]

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:21:53 -0400, "Paul M. Hobson"
<fobson@gatech.edu> may have said:

>Werehatrack wrote:
>> I've been slightly amused to see the new
>> sub-low-end "road" bikes at mass marketers with V-brakes; I'm fully
>> expecting to see Ashtabula cranks showing up in that category again
>> any day now.
>
>http://www.sebikes.com/2008/bike-detail.asp?id=45

Interesting specs on that. The seat tube length is particularly
amusing. I think even Jobst might find it a bit too tall, were those
numbers accurate.


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[Ryan Cousineau]

In article <h7ac44dp23goni34huitn61q1uqhnbfcna@4ax.com>,
Werehatrack <rault00@earthWEEDSlink.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:21:53 -0400, "Paul M. Hobson"
> <fobson@gatech.edu> may have said:
>
> >Werehatrack wrote:
> >> I've been slightly amused to see the new
> >> sub-low-end "road" bikes at mass marketers with V-brakes; I'm fully
> >> expecting to see Ashtabula cranks showing up in that category again
> >> any day now.
> >
> >http://www.sebikes.com/2008/bike-detail.asp?id=45
>
> Interesting specs on that. The seat tube length is particularly
> amusing. I think even Jobst might find it a bit too tall, were those
> numbers accurate.

I'm just impressed that they managed to build a 27-pound singlespeed.
That's more than my Alfine-equipped bike.

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[A Muzi]

>>> Werehatrack wrote:
>>>> I've been slightly amused to see the new
>>>> sub-low-end "road" bikes at mass marketers with V-brakes; I'm fully
>>>> expecting to see Ashtabula cranks showing up in that category again
>>>> any day now.

>> "Paul M. Hobson" <fobson@gatech.edu> may have said:
>>> http://www.sebikes.com/2008/bike-detail.asp?id=45

> Werehatrack <rault00@earthWEEDSlink.net> wrote:
>> Interesting specs on that. The seat tube length is particularly
>> amusing. I think even Jobst might find it a bit too tall, were those
>> numbers accurate.

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> I'm just impressed that they managed to build a 27-pound singlespeed.
> That's more than my Alfine-equipped bike.

A forged CrMo OPC crank alone weighs about 850 grams without the BB set.
Cheap ones are heavier.
Do you think the 74-inch size weighs less than the 74-inch size?
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[A Muzi]

> Werehatrack <rault00@earthWEEDSlink.net> wrote:
>> Heh. Missed that one. I've been slightly amused to see the new
>> sub-low-end "road" bikes at mass marketers with V-brakes; I'm fully
>> expecting to see Ashtabula cranks showing up in that category again
>> any day now.

Jasper Janssen wrote:
> Did ashtabula cranks ever leave the sub-$100 segment?
> Besides, as Chalo has said here occasionally: the things aren't inherently
> bad. Not entirely designed for a triple, though.

Super Sport! (OK, outlying data point - never say never!)

There was a specialty market for forged CrMo OPC cranks but AFIK the
nice Japanese products are all discontinued now, displaced by tubular
CrMo 3-piece systems.

Replacement triple chainring sets for OPC are a standard service item
for XMart bikes, cheap and plentiful.
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Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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