LeMond vs. The World

[brian_j_roth@yahoo.com]

http://www.mensjournal.com/feature/johnson/lemond.html

[Paul G.]

On Jul 3, 7:54*am, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> http://www.mensjournal.com/feature/johnson/lemond.html

I was one of the place pickers for this one:
"In a tough race up Mount Tamalpais, outside San Francisco, 15-year-
old Greg placed second only to the great George Mount, who’d finished
sixth a few months earlier in the 1976 Olympics."

What a disaster. We expected them to be strung out after the 2500'
climb, but it was a bunch sprint and the finishing straight is fairly
level so speeds were high. We had to ask the riders who finished
where.
-Paul

[ilanpsi@gmail.com]

On Jul 3, 4:54 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> http://www.mensjournal.com/feature/johnson/lemond.html

He won the world championships in 1983, and in 1984 he finished third
in the Tour de France. “When you’re good,” he tells me, “you’re good
from the beginning.”

Now we know what he thinks of Indurain: nothing, never heard of the
guy, oh wait, that guy who rode on my wheel all the way up to Luz-
Ardiden then sprinted past me.

-ilan

[Michael Press]

In article
<4691ae85-ca3d-44a2-866f-93f9936a8bea@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
"brian_j_roth@yahoo.com" <brian_j_roth@yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://www.mensjournal.com/feature/johnson/lemond.html

'I was in that room,' McIlwain said.
'I heard it. I definitely won¹t lie.'

Heard what?

--
Michael Press

[Nobody]

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:54:25 -0700 (PDT), "Paul G." <carbide@egine.com>
wrote:

>On Jul 3, 7:54*am, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> http://www.mensjournal.com/feature/johnson/lemond.html
>
>I was one of the place pickers for this one:
>"In a tough race up Mount Tamalpais, outside San Francisco, 15-year-
>old Greg placed second only to the great George Mount, who’d finished
>sixth a few months earlier in the 1976 Olympics."
>
>What a disaster. We expected them to be strung out after the 2500'
>climb, but it was a bunch sprint and the finishing straight is fairly
>level so speeds were high. We had to ask the riders who finished
>where.
>-Paul

I didn't know the infamous David W's book was out in English.

Chapters:
Chapter 1: The Kid from the Cornfield
Chapter 2: The Needle and the Damage Done
Chapter 3: New Kid, Old World
Chapter 4: The Terrible Elixir
Chapter 5: If You Can't Beat Them...
Chapter 6: The Hospital Roll - Part One
Chapter 7: Postal Goes European
Chapter 8: The Leader Returns
Chapter 9: The Program
Chapter 10: Crossing the Line
Chapter 11: The More Things Change, the More They Stay the Same
Chapter 12: Frankie's Breaking Point
Chapter 13: A Strange Kind of Glory
Chapter 14: LeMond Feels the Heat
Chapter 15: The Strange World of Ty
Chapter 16: The Empire Strikes Back
Chapter 17: The Sting in the Tale
Chapter 18: The Hospital Room - Part Two
Chapter 19: One in a Billion?
Chapter 20: "I'll Say No."
Epilogue: The Man is More Than the Cyclist
Authors Note

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

> I was one of the place pickers for this one:
> "In a tough race up Mount Tamalpais, outside San Francisco, 15-year-
> old Greg placed second only to the great George Mount, who’d finished
> sixth a few months earlier in the 1976 Olympics."

Keep in mind that the juniors of that era were not the norm (Tom Ritchey was
no slouch either). It was common for juniors to do as well as the senior Cat
1s in hill climbs (we generally weren't quite so good at sprinting) and it
was slightly annoying that the prizes for the Cat 1s in such events would be
better than what a Junior would have received, even if the Junior had the
better time.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


"Paul G." <carbide@egine.com> wrote in message
news:9dd474e9-855d-41b8-85ba-0624459f18c6@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 3, 7:54 am, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> http://www.mensjournal.com/feature/johnson/lemond.html

I was one of the place pickers for this one:
"In a tough race up Mount Tamalpais, outside San Francisco, 15-year-
old Greg placed second only to the great George Mount, who’d finished
sixth a few months earlier in the 1976 Olympics."

What a disaster. We expected them to be strung out after the 2500'
climb, but it was a bunch sprint and the finishing straight is fairly
level so speeds were high. We had to ask the riders who finished
where.
-Paul

[Paul G.]

On Jul 3, 11:08*am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:

> Keep in mind that the juniors of that era were not the norm (Tom Ritchey was
> no slouch either). It was common for juniors to do as well as the senior Cat
> 1s in hill climbs (we generally weren't quite so good at sprinting) and it
> was slightly annoying that the prizes for the Cat 1s in such events would be
> better than what a Junior would have received, even if the Junior had the
> better time.

Yeah, I remember the term "Senior Slayer" being applied to Ritchey. He
was sure a skinny kid.
-Paul

[Tom Kunich]

<ilanpsi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ef79b05e-6a5c-403d-b605-8b624e00af5f@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 3, 4:54 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> > http://www.mensjournal.com/feature/johnson/lemond.html
>
> He won the world championships in 1983, and in 1984 he finished third
> in the Tour de France. "When you're good," he tells me, "you're good
> from the beginning."
>
> Now we know what he thinks of Indurain: nothing, never heard of the
> guy, oh wait, that guy who rode on my wheel all the way up to Luz-
> Ardiden then sprinted past me.

I can't get too excited about Greg. Let's remember that he was always a
whiner - but he did win 3 Tours and should get all the credit for that.

[Michael Press]

In article
<ef79b05e-6a5c-403d-b605-8b624e00af5f@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
ilanpsi@gmail.com wrote:

> On Jul 3, 4:54 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > http://www.mensjournal.com/feature/johnson/lemond.html
>
> He won the world championships in 1983, and in 1984 he finished third
> in the Tour de France. ³When you¹re good,² he tells me, ³you¹re good
> from the beginning.²
>
> Now we know what he thinks of Indurain: nothing, never heard of the
> guy, oh wait, that guy who rode on my wheel all the way up to Luz-
> Ardiden then sprinted past me.

So what's the deal with 1994? Was everybody doping except LeMond?

"In 1994 he struggled to keep up on the flat stages.
We were always in the red ‹ `dans la rouge,'
he says. When the pack dropped him yet again during the sixth stage,
he got off his bike and climbed into the `broom wagon,'
which cruises along behind the race to sweep up exhausted riders,
the most humiliating way possible to exit a race."

--
Michael Press

[GoneBeforeMyTime]

"Paul G." <carbide@egine.com> wrote in message
news:2fb5696f-dda7-43c5-b1f8-743f81bb6fce@q27g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 3, 11:08 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:

> Keep in mind that the juniors of that era were not the norm (Tom Ritchey
> was
> no slouch either). It was common for juniors to do as well as the senior
> Cat
> 1s in hill climbs (we generally weren't quite so good at sprinting) and it
> was slightly annoying that the prizes for the Cat 1s in such events would
> be
> better than what a Junior would have received, even if the Junior had the
> better time.

Yeah, I remember the term "Senior Slayer" being applied to Ritchey. He
was sure a skinny kid.
-Paul

I watched Ritchey race Nevada City in its heyday when hords of fans lined
the streets. He didn't win, but either podiumed or close to it. He was
impressive, strong, thin and climbed well. He was one of the favs to win.

GBMT

[ilanpsi@gmail.com]

On Jul 4, 9:11 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <ef79b05e-6a5c-403d-b605-8b624e00a...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
> ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jul 3, 4:54 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >http://www.mensjournal.com/feature/johnson/lemond.html
>
> > He won the world championships in 1983, and in 1984 he finished third
> > in the Tour de France. ³When you¹re good,² he tells me, ³you¹re good
> > from the beginning.²
>
> > Now we know what he thinks of Indurain: nothing, never heard of the
> > guy, oh wait, that guy who rode on my wheel all the way up to Luz-
> > Ardiden then sprinted past me.
>
> So what's the deal with 1994? Was everybody doping except LeMond?
>
> "In 1994 he struggled to keep up on the flat stages.
> We were always in the red ‹ `dans la rouge,'
> he says. When the pack dropped him yet again during the sixth stage,
> he got off his bike and climbed into the `broom wagon,'
> which cruises along behind the race to sweep up exhausted riders,
> the most humiliating way possible to exit a race."
>
> --
> Michael Press

1994 was the year Virenque dropped all his team mates in the team time
trial to win KOM points.

-ilan

[Paul G.]

On Jul 4, 12:15*pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <4691ae85-ca3d-44a2-866f-93f9936a8...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
> *"brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >http://www.mensjournal.com/feature/johnson/lemond.html
>
> 'I was in that room,' McIlwain said.
> 'I heard it. I definitely won¹t lie.'
>
> Heard what?
>

"...she and her husband were present in Armstrong’s hospital room when
he told doctors he had used EPO, human growth hormone, and
testosterone."
-Paul

[Michael Press]

In article
<09185ae7-1d41-407f-bf93-abe04bd5f9bf@u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
"Paul G." <carbide@egine.com> wrote:

> On Jul 4, 12:15*pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <4691ae85-ca3d-44a2-866f-93f9936a8...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > *"brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >http://www.mensjournal.com/feature/johnson/lemond.html
> >
> > 'I was in that room,' McIlwain said.
> > 'I heard it. I definitely won1t lie.'
> >
> > Heard what?
> >
>
> "...she and her husband were present in Armstrong¹s hospital room when
> he told doctors he had used EPO, human growth hormone, and
> testosterone."

That is not what she says on tape. Heard what?

--
Michael Press

[Michael Press]

In article
<44cc3801-935d-4969-8ef4-c8b025e372c2@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
ilanpsi@gmail.com wrote:

> On Jul 4, 9:11 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <ef79b05e-6a5c-403d-b605-8b624e00a...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Jul 3, 4:54 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >http://www.mensjournal.com/feature/johnson/lemond.html
> >
> > > He won the world championships in 1983, and in 1984 he finished third
> > > in the Tour de France. 3When you1re good,2 he tells me, 3you1re good
> > > from the beginning.2
> >
> > > Now we know what he thinks of Indurain: nothing, never heard of the
> > > guy, oh wait, that guy who rode on my wheel all the way up to Luz-
> > > Ardiden then sprinted past me.
> >
> > So what's the deal with 1994? Was everybody doping except LeMond?
> >
> > "In 1994 he struggled to keep up on the flat stages.
> > We were always in the red Ð `dans la rouge,'
> > he says. When the pack dropped him yet again during the sixth stage,
> > he got off his bike and climbed into the `broom wagon,'
> > which cruises along behind the race to sweep up exhausted riders,
> > the most humiliating way possible to exit a race."
>
> 1994 was the year Virenque dropped all his team mates in the team time
> trial to win KOM points.

Now I know why King Richard is so well loved.

--
Michael Press

[Donald Munro]

Michael Press wrote:
> Now I know why King Richard is so well loved.

The desperate housewives are alleged to have loved him.

[Davey Crockett]

Michael Press a écrit profondement:

|
| Now I know why King Richard is so well loved.

Not any more he ain't.

Spotted **** was a "Character". A true entertainer and all round nice
guy.

Nobody in France gave a Fiddlers **** if he doped or not. He was "Our
Richard" - Not any more though. But who really gives a ****e about
ex-bike-racers anyway. Certainly not Davey. They all turn Queer like
Millar or Stupid like Spotted **** who, after 17 years of marriage,
wrecked the home for a piece of ass with a scag like Jessica Snow!

http://azurservers.com/rbr/spotteddick.jpg

http://www.news-de-stars.com/actualite/richard-virenque-divorce-un-tournant-ma-trise_art1281.html

What we need is more characters. Like Abdujaparov, Kelly, Rooks,
Vanderaerden, Theunisse, Magni, Poulidor etc;, etc;,

Bring 'em on. And the sooner the better if bike racing is to stay
alive for another 10 years or so until Camel Racing becomes the
European Countries' sport.

(Check it out - the last Italian is slated to die around 2070 and the
Last Frenchman soon after)

--
Davey Crockett
-
Driving a Stake through the
Heart of the Politically Correct
-
**** the New World Order