What if they had a bicycle race and nobody much gave a

[dustoyevsky@mac.com]

****.

"Cleaned for commercial presentation".

Enron.

--D-y

[Bill C]

On Jul 4, 5:16*pm, "dustoyev...@mac.com" <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
> ****.
>
> "Cleaned for commercial presentation".
>
> Enron.
>
> --D-y

I'm keeping an eye on Fitchburg. ;-)
Bill C

[Tom Kunich]

<dustoyevsky@mac.com> wrote in message
news:e1900f6f-d59d-466a-8fa6-ff1b283f7881@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> ****.
>
> "Cleaned for commercial presentation".

Tour de what?

[Bob Schwartz]

dustoyevsky@mac.com wrote:
> ****.
>
> "Cleaned for commercial presentation".
>
> Enron.
>
> --D-y

If you want an exciting Tour, you want to maximize the number
of riders that think they've got a shot. That maximizes the
number of riders willing to take chances, thinking it could
pay off big.

Usually this happens after the retirement of a major figure.
The end of Hinault, Indurain, and LANCE's careers were all
marked by fabulous editions of the Tour. Hard fought with
lots of drama.

The green jersey competition will miss Boonen. But that's a
sideshow.

The Tour will not miss Astana. And two weeks from now you guys
will all be paying as close attention as ever.

Bob Schwartz

[MyPostingID]

"we look forward with optimism in the hope that we will witness a
great sporting clash without the scandals of recent years"

says Phil Liggett.

[Tom Kunich]

"MyPostingID" <MyPostingID@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f335f856-249f-4c6c-be06-daeb7b550d9e@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> "we look forward with optimism in the hope that we will witness a
> great sporting clash without the scandals of recent years"

Unfortunately it will be an apteryx Tour this year and not worth watching.
Without Contador and Levi the racing is meaningless.

Vuelta Espania is looking better all the time.

[Andre]

On Jul 4, 7:04*pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "MyPostingID" <MyPostin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f335f856-249f-4c6c-be06-daeb7b550d9e@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > "we look forward with optimism in the hope that we will witness a
> > great sporting clash without the scandals of recent years"
>
> Unfortunately it will be an apteryx Tour this year and not worth watching..
> Without Contador and Levi the racing is meaningless.
>
> Vuelta Espania is looking better all the time.

...and without Boonen, Kloden, Benatti, Bettini, Rogers...etc

[Davey Crockett]

"Tom Kunich" a écrit profondement:

| "MyPostingID" <MyPostingID@gmail.com> wrote in message
| news:f335f856-249f-4c6c-be06-daeb7b550d9e@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
| > "we look forward with optimism in the hope that we will witness a
| > great sporting clash without the scandals of recent years"
|
| Unfortunately it will be an apteryx Tour this year and not worth
| watching. Without Contador and Levi the racing is meaningless.
|
| Vuelta Espania is looking better all the time.

I didn't realize there were any New Zealanders lining up today,

But I've been telling you lot for years that the Tour has been boring,
saving the spectacular dopers, for the last 10 years.

Personally I prefer the Giro these days with the Vuelta a close
sezcond

Now if we could only get McBoggy away from the swill bin long enough
to quit feeding his obscenely large and ever expanding gut to whisper
into his ear that if he really wants to put the proverbial boots to
the Tour of Dog****Reich, he should move the Vuelta back to where it
always was - early season - , defer the Giro until July and Tour de
DSR until October.

--
Davey Crockett
-
Driving a Stake through the
Heart of the Politically Correct

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article <veOdnfvsQdHhMfPVnZ2dnUVZ_rrinZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:

> "MyPostingID" <MyPostingID@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f335f856-249f-4c6c-be06-daeb7b550d9e@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> > "we look forward with optimism in the hope that we will witness a
> > great sporting clash without the scandals of recent years"
>
> Unfortunately it will be an apteryx Tour this year and not worth watching.
> Without Contador and Levi the racing is meaningless.
>
> Vuelta Espania is looking better all the time.

First use of "apteryx" in rbr

<http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/search?group=rec.bicy
cles.racing&q=apteryx&qt_g=Search+this+group>

Tom, why do you hate Julian Dean?

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

[Donald Munro]

Davey Crockett wrote:
> Now if we could only get McBoggy away from the swill bin long enough to
> quit feeding his obscenely large and ever expanding gut to whisper into
> his ear that if he really wants to put the proverbial boots to the Tour of
> Dog****Reich, he should move the Vuelta back to where it always was -
> early season - , defer the Giro until July and Tour de DSR until October.

That would be a good idea except that ASO have covered their asses by
buying into both the other tours. I wonder if a case could be made to
the EU anti-trust people (who seem to be quite active) on this.

[Davey Crockett]

Donald Munro a écrit profondement:

| Davey Crockett wrote:
| > Now if we could only get McBoggy away from the swill bin long enough to
| > quit feeding his obscenely large and ever expanding gut to whisper into
| > his ear that if he really wants to put the proverbial boots to the Tour of
| > Dog****Reich, he should move the Vuelta back to where it always was -
| > early season - , defer the Giro until July and Tour de DSR until October.
|
| That would be a good idea except that ASO have covered their asses by
| buying into both the other tours. I wonder if a case could be made to
| the EU anti-trust people (who seem to be quite active) on this.
|

Slim chance currently with the Hungarian Rag Picker cum Prince of
Andorra as head Honcho at the EU-Soviet.

--
Davey Crockett
-
Driving a Stake through the
Heart of the Politically Correct

[dustoyevsky@mac.com]

On Jul 5, 8:48*am, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVE.global.net>
wrote:
> dustoyev...@mac.com wrote:
> > ****.
>
> > "Cleaned for commercial presentation".
>
> > Enron.
>
> > --D-y
>
> If you want an exciting Tour, you want to maximize the number
> of riders that think they've got a shot. That maximizes the
> number of riders willing to take chances, thinking it could
> pay off big.
>
> Usually this happens after the retirement of a major figure.
> The end of Hinault, Indurain, and LANCE's careers were all
> marked by fabulous editions of the Tour. Hard fought with
> lots of drama.
>
> The green jersey competition will miss Boonen. But that's a
> sideshow.
>
> The Tour will not miss Astana. And two weeks from now you guys
> will all be paying as close attention as ever.
>
> Bob Schwartz

Actually, I started paying attention today.

TIOOYK

Valverde obviously is doping. --D-y

[Fred Fredburger]

Bob Schwartz wrote:
> dustoyevsky@mac.com wrote:
>> ****.
>>
>> "Cleaned for commercial presentation".
>>
>> Enron.
>>
>> --D-y
>
> If you want an exciting Tour, you want to maximize the number
> of riders that think they've got a shot. That maximizes the
> number of riders willing to take chances, thinking it could
> pay off big.
>
> Usually this happens after the retirement of a major figure.
> The end of Hinault, Indurain, and LANCE's careers were all
> marked by fabulous editions of the Tour. Hard fought with
> lots of drama.
>
> The green jersey competition will miss Boonen. But that's a
> sideshow.
>
> The Tour will not miss Astana. And two weeks from now you guys
> will all be paying as close attention as ever.

You're comparing apples to jackhammers. Two weeks from now, we'll have
some good doping controversies to talk about. That trick ALWAYS works.

[Bob Schwartz]

Fred Fredburger wrote:
> Bob Schwartz wrote:
>> dustoyevsky@mac.com wrote:
>>> ****.
>>>
>>> "Cleaned for commercial presentation".
>>>
>>> Enron.
>>>
>>> --D-y
>>
>> If you want an exciting Tour, you want to maximize the number
>> of riders that think they've got a shot. That maximizes the
>> number of riders willing to take chances, thinking it could
>> pay off big.
>>
>> Usually this happens after the retirement of a major figure.
>> The end of Hinault, Indurain, and LANCE's careers were all
>> marked by fabulous editions of the Tour. Hard fought with
>> lots of drama.
>>
>> The green jersey competition will miss Boonen. But that's a
>> sideshow.
>>
>> The Tour will not miss Astana. And two weeks from now you guys
>> will all be paying as close attention as ever.
>
> You're comparing apples to jackhammers. Two weeks from now, we'll have
> some good doping controversies to talk about. That trick ALWAYS works.

No we won't. WADA used leaks as a weapon against the riders,
without regard to what that did to the race. All they cared
about was cutting the rider's income to make it harder to
fund a defense. WADA is out of the picture this year. While
I don't think that means there won't be doping scandals, I
do think they will be managed so that the race is not damaged.

Bob Schwartz