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Bob Martin
12-31-1969, 08:00 PM
Changes in stage 16 compared to stage 15

Biggest gainers by position :
+19 Remi Pauriol
+18 Nicolas Portal
+16 Samuel Dumoulin
+16 Giampaolo Cheula
+15 Thomas Voeckler
+13 Sylvain Chavanel
+13 Ryder Hesjedal
+13 Murilo Fischer
+12 Nicolas Vogondy
+12 John-Lee Augustyn

Biggest losers by position :
-14 Dario Cioni
-14 David Millar
-14 Joost Posthuma
-11 Alessandro Ballan
-11 Matteo Tosatto
-10 Simon Gerrans
-9 Oscar Freire
-8 Fabian Cancellara
-8 Thor Hushovd
-7 Thomas Lovkvist
-7 Trent Lowe

Biggest gainers by time :
+1:28 Sandy Casar
+1:28 David Arroyo
+1:28 Cyril Dessel
+1:25 Yaroslav Popovych
+1:04 Tadej Valjavec
+1:04 Nicolas Portal
+1:04 George Hincapie
+0:25 Stefan Schumacher

Biggest losers by time :
-30:38 Joost Posthuma
-30:38 Julian Dean
-30:38 Manuel Quinziato
-30:38 Niki Terpstra
-30:38 Stephane Auge
-30:28 Adam Hansen
-30:28 Aleksandr Kuschynski
-30:28 Alessandro Ballan
-30:28 Arnaud Coyot
-30:28 Arnaud Gerard
-30:28 Bernhard Eisel

Favourites by position :
+8 George Hincapie
+4 Jens Voigt
+3 Damiano Cunego
+3 Andy Schleck
+2 Carlos Sastre
+1 Samuel Sanchez
+1 Alejandro Valverde
-1 Denis Menchov
-1 Christian Vande Velde
-3 Vladimir Efimkin

Favourites by time :
+1:04 George Hincapie
-0:04 Samuel Sanchez
-0:35 Kim Kirchen
-0:35 Denis Menchov
-1:53 Jens Voigt
-2:36 Christian Vande Velde
-3:22 Vladimir Efimkin

Top 3 and favourites standings :
1 Frank Schleck 68.30.16
2 Bernhard Kohl 0.07
3 Cadel Evans 0.08
4 Carlos Sastre 0.49
5 Denis Menchov 1.13
6 Christian Vande Velde 3.15
7 Kim Kirchen 3.23
8 Alejandro Valverde 4.11
9 Samuel Sanchez 4.38
.....
11 Vladimir Efimkin 6.58
12 Damiano Cunego 7.43
.....
14 Andy Schleck 9.01
.....
37 Jens Voigt 44.18
38 George Hincapie 44.59

Retirements to date : Stage
Oscar Pereiro (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 15
Mark Cavendish (GBr) Columbia 15
Mauricio Soler (Col) Barloworld 5
Felix Rafael Cardenas (Col) Barloworld 11
Baden Cooke (Aus) Barloworld 12
Moises Duenas (Spa) Barloworld 11
Paolo Longo Borghini (Ita) Barloworld 11
Manuel Beltran (Spa) Liquigas 8
Francesco Chicchi (Ita) Liquigas 16 <<<
Mark Renshaw (Aus) Credit Agricole 15
Stijn Devolder (Bel) Quick Step 15
Mauro Facci (Ita) Quick Step 7
John Gadret (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 7
Christophe Moreau (Fra) Agritubel 7
Nicolas Jalabert (Fra) Agritubel 14
Iouri Trofimov (Rus) Bouygues Telecom 10
Sebastien Chavanel (Fra) Francaise des Jeux 16 <<<
Lilian Jegou (Fra) Francaise des Jeux 7
Riccardo Ricco (Ita) Saunier Duval-Scott 12
Rubens Bertogliati (Swi) Saunier Duval-Scott 12
Juan Jose Cobo (Spa) Saunier Duval-Scott 12
David De La Fuente (Spa) Saunier Duval-Scott 12
Jesus Del Nero (Spa) Saunier Duval-Scott 12
Angel Gomez Gomez (Spa) Saunier Duval-Scott 3
Josep Jufre (Spa) Saunier Duval-Scott 12
Aurelien Passeron (Fra) Saunier Duval-Scott 6
Leonardo Piepoli (Ita) Saunier Duval-Scott 12
Herve Duclos-Lassalle (Fra) Cofidis 1
Magnus Backstedt (Swe) Garmin Chipotle - H30 7
Total retirements : 29

RicodJour
01-04-1970, 03:46 PM
On Jul 22, 1:24*pm, Bob Martin <bob.mar...@excite.com> wrote:
> Changes in stage 16 compared to stage 15
>
> Biggest gainers by position :
> * * * +19 * Remi Pauriol
> * * * +18 * Nicolas Portal
> * * * +16 * Samuel Dumoulin
> * * * +16 * Giampaolo Cheula
> * * * +15 * Thomas Voeckler
> * * * +13 * Sylvain Chavanel
> * * * +13 * Ryder Hesjedal
> * * * +13 * Murilo Fischer
> * * * +12 * Nicolas Vogondy
> * * * +12 * John-Lee Augustyn
>
> Biggest losers by position :
> * * * -14 * Dario Cioni
> * * * -14 * David Millar
> * * * -14 * Joost Posthuma
> * * * -11 * Alessandro Ballan
> * * * -11 * Matteo Tosatto
> * * * -10 * Simon Gerrans
> * * * *-9 * Oscar Freire
> * * * *-8 * Fabian Cancellara
> * * * *-8 * Thor Hushovd
> * * * *-7 * Thomas Lovkvist
> * * * *-7 * Trent Lowe
>
> Biggest gainers by time :
> * * +1:28 * Sandy Casar
> * * +1:28 * David Arroyo
> * * +1:28 * Cyril Dessel
> * * +1:25 * Yaroslav Popovych
> * * +1:04 * Tadej Valjavec
> * * +1:04 * Nicolas Portal
> * * +1:04 * George Hincapie
> * * +0:25 * Stefan Schumacher
>
> Biggest losers by time :
> * *-30:38 * Joost Posthuma
> * *-30:38 * Julian Dean
> * *-30:38 * Manuel Quinziato
> * *-30:38 * Niki Terpstra
> * *-30:38 * Stephane Auge
> * *-30:28 * Adam Hansen
> * *-30:28 * Aleksandr Kuschynski
> * *-30:28 * Alessandro Ballan
> * *-30:28 * Arnaud Coyot
> * *-30:28 * Arnaud Gerard
> * *-30:28 * Bernhard Eisel
>
> Favourites by position :
> * * * *+8 * George Hincapie
> * * * *+4 * Jens Voigt
> * * * *+3 * Damiano Cunego
> * * * *+3 * Andy Schleck
> * * * *+2 * Carlos Sastre
> * * * *+1 * Samuel Sanchez
> * * * *+1 * Alejandro Valverde
> * * * *-1 * Denis Menchov
> * * * *-1 * Christian Vande Velde
> * * * *-3 * Vladimir Efimkin
>
> Favourites by time :
> * * +1:04 * George Hincapie
> * * -0:04 * Samuel Sanchez
> * * -0:35 * Kim Kirchen
> * * -0:35 * Denis Menchov
> * * -1:53 * Jens Voigt
> * * -2:36 * Christian Vande Velde
> * * -3:22 * Vladimir Efimkin
>
> Top 3 and favourites standings :
> * * * * 1 *Frank Schleck * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *68.30.16
> * * * * 2 *Bernhard Kohl * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *0.07
> * * * * 3 *Cadel Evans * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *0.08
> * * * * 4 *Carlos Sastre * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *0.49
> * * * * 5 *Denis Menchov * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *1.13
> * * * * 6 *Christian Vande Velde * * * * * * * * * * * * *3.15
> * * * * 7 *Kim Kirchen * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *3.23
> * * * * 8 *Alejandro Valverde * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 4.11
> * * * * 9 *Samuel Sanchez * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 4.38
> * * * * .....
> * * * *11 *Vladimir Efimkin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 6.58
> * * * *12 *Damiano Cunego * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 7.43
> * * * * .....
> * * * *14 *Andy Schleck * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 9.01
> * * * * .....
> * * * *37 *Jens Voigt * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *44.18
> * * * *38 *George Hincapie * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 44.59
>
> Retirements to date : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Stage
> * *Oscar Pereiro (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne * * * * * * * 15
> * *Mark Cavendish (GBr) Columbia * * * * * * * * * * *15
> * *Mauricio Soler (Col) Barloworld * * * * * * * * * * 5
> * *Felix Rafael Cardenas (Col) Barloworld * * * * * * 11
> * *Baden Cooke (Aus) Barloworld * * * * * * * * * * * 12
> * *Moises Duenas (Spa) Barloworld * * * * * * * * * * 11
> * *Paolo Longo Borghini (Ita) Barloworld * * * * * * *11
> * *Manuel Beltran (Spa) Liquigas * * * * * * * * * * * 8
> * *Francesco Chicchi (Ita) Liquigas * * * * * * * * * 16 <<<
> * *Mark Renshaw (Aus) Credit Agricole * * * * * * * * 15
> * *Stijn Devolder (Bel) Quick Step * * * * * * * * * *15
> * *Mauro Facci (Ita) Quick Step * * * * * * * * * * * *7
> * *John Gadret (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale * * * * * * * * *7
> * *Christophe Moreau (Fra) Agritubel * * * * * * * * * 7
> * *Nicolas Jalabert (Fra) Agritubel * * * * * * * * * 14
> * *Iouri Trofimov (Rus) Bouygues Telecom * * * * * * *10
> * *Sebastien Chavanel (Fra) Francaise des Jeux * * * *16 <<<
> * *Lilian Jegou (Fra) Francaise des Jeux * * * * * * * 7
> * *Riccardo Ricco (Ita) Saunier Duval-Scott * * * * * 12
> * *Rubens Bertogliati (Swi) Saunier Duval-Scott * * * 12
> * *Juan Jose Cobo (Spa) Saunier Duval-Scott * * * * * 12
> * *David De La Fuente (Spa) Saunier Duval-Scott * * * 12
> * *Jesus Del Nero (Spa) Saunier Duval-Scott * * * * * 12
> * *Angel Gomez Gomez (Spa) Saunier Duval-Scott * * * * 3
> * *Josep Jufre (Spa) Saunier Duval-Scott * * * * * * *12
> * *Aurelien Passeron (Fra) Saunier Duval-Scott * * * * 6
> * *Leonardo Piepoli (Ita) Saunier Duval-Scott * * * * 12
> * *Herve Duclos-Lassalle (Fra) Cofidis * * * * * * * * 1
> * *Magnus Backstedt (Swe) Garmin Chipotle - H30 * * * *7
> *Total retirements : 29

All the Frenchmen doing well today...I don't know. Did I miss the
date change on Bastille Day?

R

Michael Press
01-04-1970, 03:46 PM
In article <rJohk.31224$E41.25625@text.news.virginmedia.com>,
Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> wrote:

> Top 3 and favourites standings :
> 1 Frank Schleck 68.30.16
> 2 Bernhard Kohl 0.07
> 3 Cadel Evans 0.08
> 4 Carlos Sastre 0.49
> 5 Denis Menchov 1.13
> 6 Christian Vande Velde 3.15
> 7 Kim Kirchen 3.23
> 8 Alejandro Valverde 4.11
> 9 Samuel Sanchez 4.38
> .....
> 11 Vladimir Efimkin 6.58
> 12 Damiano Cunego 7.43
> .....
> 14 Andy Schleck 9.01
> .....
> 37 Jens Voigt 44.18
> 38 George Hincapie 44.59

Excellent. Best pre-race predictions this year.

--
Michael Press

01-04-1970, 03:46 PM
"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
768444f7-acf6-448f-88e0-398534ad926f@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 22, 1:24 pm, Bob Martin <bob.mar...@excite.com> wrote:
> Changes in stage 16 compared to stage 15
>
> Biggest gainers by position :
> +19 Remi Pauriol
> +18 Nicolas Portal
> +16 Samuel Dumoulin
> +16 Giampaolo Cheula
> +15 Thomas Voeckler
> +13 Sylvain Chavanel
> +13 Ryder Hesjedal
> +13 Murilo Fischer
> +12 Nicolas Vogondy
> +12 John-Lee Augustyn
>
> Biggest losers by position :
> -14 Dario Cioni
> -14 David Millar
> -14 Joost Posthuma
> -11 Alessandro Ballan
> -11 Matteo Tosatto
> -10 Simon Gerrans
> -9 Oscar Freire
> -8 Fabian Cancellara
> -8 Thor Hushovd
> -7 Thomas Lovkvist
> -7 Trent Lowe
>
> Biggest gainers by time :
> +1:28 Sandy Casar
> +1:28 David Arroyo
> +1:28 Cyril Dessel
> +1:25 Yaroslav Popovych
> +1:04 Tadej Valjavec
> +1:04 Nicolas Portal
> +1:04 George Hincapie
> +0:25 Stefan Schumacher
>
> Biggest losers by time :
> -30:38 Joost Posthuma
> -30:38 Julian Dean
> -30:38 Manuel Quinziato
> -30:38 Niki Terpstra
> -30:38 Stephane Auge
> -30:28 Adam Hansen
> -30:28 Aleksandr Kuschynski
> -30:28 Alessandro Ballan
> -30:28 Arnaud Coyot
> -30:28 Arnaud Gerard
> -30:28 Bernhard Eisel
>
> Favourites by position :
> +8 George Hincapie
> +4 Jens Voigt
> +3 Damiano Cunego
> +3 Andy Schleck
> +2 Carlos Sastre
> +1 Samuel Sanchez
> +1 Alejandro Valverde
> -1 Denis Menchov
> -1 Christian Vande Velde
> -3 Vladimir Efimkin
>
> Favourites by time :
> +1:04 George Hincapie
> -0:04 Samuel Sanchez
> -0:35 Kim Kirchen
> -0:35 Denis Menchov
> -1:53 Jens Voigt
> -2:36 Christian Vande Velde
> -3:22 Vladimir Efimkin
>
> Top 3 and favourites standings :
> 1 Frank Schleck 68.30.16
> 2 Bernhard Kohl 0.07
> 3 Cadel Evans 0.08
> 4 Carlos Sastre 0.49
> 5 Denis Menchov 1.13
> 6 Christian Vande Velde 3.15
> 7 Kim Kirchen 3.23
> 8 Alejandro Valverde 4.11
> 9 Samuel Sanchez 4.38
> .....
> 11 Vladimir Efimkin 6.58
> 12 Damiano Cunego 7.43
> .....
> 14 Andy Schleck 9.01
> .....
> 37 Jens Voigt 44.18
> 38 George Hincapie 44.59
>
> Retirements to date : Stage
> Oscar Pereiro (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 15
> Mark Cavendish (GBr) Columbia 15
> Mauricio Soler (Col) Barloworld 5
> Felix Rafael Cardenas (Col) Barloworld 11
> Baden Cooke (Aus) Barloworld 12
> Moises Duenas (Spa) Barloworld 11
> Paolo Longo Borghini (Ita) Barloworld 11
> Manuel Beltran (Spa) Liquigas 8
> Francesco Chicchi (Ita) Liquigas 16 <<<
> Mark Renshaw (Aus) Credit Agricole 15
> Stijn Devolder (Bel) Quick Step 15
> Mauro Facci (Ita) Quick Step 7
> John Gadret (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 7
> Christophe Moreau (Fra) Agritubel 7
> Nicolas Jalabert (Fra) Agritubel 14
> Iouri Trofimov (Rus) Bouygues Telecom 10
> Sebastien Chavanel (Fra) Francaise des Jeux 16 <<<
> Lilian Jegou (Fra) Francaise des Jeux 7
> Riccardo Ricco (Ita) Saunier Duval-Scott 12
> Rubens Bertogliati (Swi) Saunier Duval-Scott 12
> Juan Jose Cobo (Spa) Saunier Duval-Scott 12
> David De La Fuente (Spa) Saunier Duval-Scott 12
> Jesus Del Nero (Spa) Saunier Duval-Scott 12
> Angel Gomez Gomez (Spa) Saunier Duval-Scott 3
> Josep Jufre (Spa) Saunier Duval-Scott 12
> Aurelien Passeron (Fra) Saunier Duval-Scott 6
> Leonardo Piepoli (Ita) Saunier Duval-Scott 12
> Herve Duclos-Lassalle (Fra) Cofidis 1
> Magnus Backstedt (Swe) Garmin Chipotle - H30 7
> Total retirements : 29

>All the Frenchmen doing well today...I don't know. Did I miss the
>date change on Bastille Day?

>R

If I correctly remember Dessel lost his Maillot Jaune 2 years ago for
someone called ... Landis.
It is why the French strongly support the drug tests
LOL