Final TT

[Mark]

Phil & Paul were saying today that Sastre needed two minutes on the Alpe
today, but I figured he needed more than that (of course they know
things I don't).

Assuming (!) that their speeds on the final TT are the same as on the
first (i.e. scaling up their finishing times from the first TT), and
assuming (!!) that the other remaining stages make no difference, I get
this final GC:

1) Evans
2) Sastre 43 sec.
3) Menchov 1:18
4) Kohl 2:23
5) F. Schleck 3:02
6) Vande Velde 3:25
7) Valverde 6:01
8) Sanchez 6:13
9) Kirchen 6:45
...
12) A. Schleck 10:32

This doesn't take into account the "super motivation" Sastre will feel
at 43 seconds back, the fact that it's been 2.5 weeks of hard racing
(e.g. statements that Vande Velde gets /stronger/ as the race goes on,
other rider getting tired), the different TT course/length/weather.

Given how close the top three show above (and assuming DS's can do
arithmetic), I'm guessing there might be an attack or two tomorrow.

Mark J.

[Carl Sundquist]

"Mark" <mandmljNOSPAM@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:UJ6dnT3izKED5RrVnZ2dnUVZ_rrinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Phil & Paul were saying today that Sastre needed two minutes on the Alpe
> today, but I figured he needed more than that (of course they know things
> I don't).
>
> Assuming (!) that their speeds on the final TT are the same as on the
> first (i.e. scaling up their finishing times from the first TT), and
> assuming (!!) that the other remaining stages make no difference, I get
> this final GC:
>
> 1) Evans
> 2) Sastre 43 sec.
> 3) Menchov 1:18
> 4) Kohl 2:23
> 5) F. Schleck 3:02
> 6) Vande Velde 3:25
> 7) Valverde 6:01
> 8) Sanchez 6:13
> 9) Kirchen 6:45
> ..
> 12) A. Schleck 10:32
>
> This doesn't take into account the "super motivation" Sastre will feel at
> 43 seconds back, the fact that it's been 2.5 weeks of hard racing (e.g.
> statements that Vande Velde gets /stronger/ as the race goes on, other
> rider getting tired), the different TT course/length/weather.
>
> Given how close the top three show above (and assuming DS's can do
> arithmetic), I'm guessing there might be an attack or two tomorrow.
>

Pantani was "super motivated" in the final TT in '98

[phillip brown]

On Jul 24, 4:29*am, Mark <mandmljNOS...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote:
> Phil & Paul were saying today that Sastre needed two minutes on the Alpe
> today, but I figured he needed more than that (of course they know
> things I don't).
>
> Assuming (!) that their speeds on the final TT are the same as on the
> first (i.e. scaling up their finishing times from the first TT), and
> assuming (!!) that the other remaining stages make no difference, I get
> this final GC:
>
> 1) Evans
> 2) Sastre * * * * 43 sec.
> 3) Menchov * * *1:18
> 4) Kohl * * * * 2:23
> 5) F. Schleck * 3:02
> 6) Vande Velde *3:25
> 7) Valverde * * 6:01
> 8) Sanchez * * *6:13
> 9) Kirchen * * *6:45
> ..
> 12) A. Schleck *10:32
>
> This doesn't take into account the "super motivation" Sastre will feel
> at 43 seconds back, the fact that it's been 2.5 weeks of hard racing
> (e.g. statements that Vande Velde gets /stronger/ as the race goes on,
> other rider getting tired), the different TT course/length/weather.
>
> Given how close the top three show above (and assuming DS's can do
> arithmetic), I'm guessing there might be an attack or two tomorrow.
>
> Mark J.

FWIW, in the final time trial last year, Sastre lost 2.33 to Evans.

phillip brown

[DirtRoadie]

On Jul 23, 12:29*pm, Mark <mandmljNOS...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote:

> This doesn't take into account the "super motivation" Sastre will feel

And Evans won't?

DR

[derFahrer@gmail.com]

On Jul 23, 5:24 pm, "Carl Sundquist" <carl...@cox.net> wrote:

>
> Pantani was "super motivated" in the final TT in '98

so *that's* what they meant by "super motivated". We should keep a
tally of which riders and teams are saying that.

[Carl Sundquist]

<derFahrer@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8cd674af-1f66-43da-a282-cfeb0c4071d4@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 23, 5:24 pm, "Carl Sundquist" <carl...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Pantani was "super motivated" in the final TT in '98
>
> so *that's* what they meant by "super motivated". We should keep a
> tally of which riders and teams are saying that.
>

Interestingly, for all the crashes, we've yet to see any examples of the
Adrenalin Theory this year.

[RicodJour]

On Jul 23, 5:43*pm, "Carl Sundquist" <carl...@cox.net> wrote:
> <derFah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8cd674af-1f66-43da-a282-cfeb0c4071d4@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jul 23, 5:24 pm, "Carl Sundquist" <carl...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> Pantani was "super motivated" in the final TT in '98
>
> > so *that's* what they meant by "super motivated". *We should keep a
> > tally of which riders and teams are saying that.
>
> Interestingly, for all the crashes, we've yet to see any examples of the
> Adrenalin Theory this year.

That's because the rider has to be belted by gamma rays first. It may
also have to do with borderline homicidal rage syndrome, BHRS, which I
just made up.

R

[Fred Fredburger]

RicodJour wrote:
> On Jul 23, 5:43 pm, "Carl Sundquist" <carl...@cox.net> wrote:
>> <derFah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:8cd674af-1f66-43da-a282-cfeb0c4071d4@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> On Jul 23, 5:24 pm, "Carl Sundquist" <carl...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> Pantani was "super motivated" in the final TT in '98
>>> so *that's* what they meant by "super motivated". We should keep a
>>> tally of which riders and teams are saying that.
>> Interestingly, for all the crashes, we've yet to see any examples of the
>> Adrenalin Theory this year.
>
> That's because the rider has to be belted by gamma rays first. It may
> also have to do with borderline homicidal rage syndrome, BHRS, which I
> just made up.
>
> R

I might kill you if you keep making stuff like this up. I haven't
decided yet.

[Nobody]

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:52:32 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
<ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote:

>On Jul 23, 5:43*pm, "Carl Sundquist" <carl...@cox.net> wrote:
>> <derFah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:8cd674af-1f66-43da-a282-cfeb0c4071d4@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Jul 23, 5:24 pm, "Carl Sundquist" <carl...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> Pantani was "super motivated" in the final TT in '98
>>
>> > so *that's* what they meant by "super motivated". *We should keep a
>> > tally of which riders and teams are saying that.
>>
>> Interestingly, for all the crashes, we've yet to see any examples of the
>> Adrenalin Theory this year.
>
>That's because the rider has to be belted by gamma rays first. It may
>also have to do with borderline homicidal rage syndrome, BHRS, which I
>just made up.
>
>R

If Phil is reading rbr, maybe he'll say 'He's turning the pedals in
BHRS today, Paul"?

(Pronounced 'Brrrs')

Everyone else will think it's a French township, but we'll know
better...

[phillip brown]

On Jul 24, 9:41*am, phillip brown <pjbr...@people.net.au> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 4:29*am, Mark <mandmljNOS...@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Phil & Paul were saying today that Sastre needed two minutes on the Alpe
> > today, but I figured he needed more than that (of course they know
> > things I don't).
>
> > Assuming (!) that their speeds on the final TT are the same as on the
> > first (i.e. scaling up their finishing times from the first TT), and
> > assuming (!!) that the other remaining stages make no difference, I get
> > this final GC:
>
> > 1) Evans
> > 2) Sastre * * * * 43 sec.
> > 3) Menchov * * *1:18
> > 4) Kohl * * * * 2:23
> > 5) F. Schleck * 3:02
> > 6) Vande Velde *3:25
> > 7) Valverde * * 6:01
> > 8) Sanchez * * *6:13
> > 9) Kirchen * * *6:45
> > ..
> > 12) A. Schleck *10:32
>
> > This doesn't take into account the "super motivation" Sastre will feel
> > at 43 seconds back, the fact that it's been 2.5 weeks of hard racing
> > (e.g. statements that Vande Velde gets /stronger/ as the race goes on,
> > other rider getting tired), the different TT course/length/weather.
>
> > Given how close the top three show above (and assuming DS's can do
> > arithmetic), I'm guessing there might be an attack or two tomorrow.
>
> > Mark J.
>
> FWIW, in the final time trial last year, Sastre lost 2.33 to Evans.
>
> phillip brown

and 2005, 2006 he lost a minute.

phillip brown

[Morten Reippuert Knudsen]

On 2008-07-24 01:41:56 +0200, phillip brown <pjbrown@people.net.au> said:

>
> FWIW, in the final time trial last year, Sastre lost 2.33 to Evans.
>
> phillip brown

Vuelta 2007 stage 8, 55km TT: 1.37 minuttes.
Vuelta 2007 stage 21, 22KM TT: 21 seconds.

It will be close
--
mvh. Morten Reippuert Knudsen

"Besides, if you can't get a decent kernal panic
or two in a month, what's the point of living?"

[SLAVE of THE STATE]

On Jul 25, 4:42*pm, Morten Reippuert Knudsen <s...@reippuert.dk>
wrote:
> On 2008-07-24 01:41:56 +0200, phillip brown <pjbr...@people.net.au> said:
>
>
>
> > FWIW, in the final time trial last year, Sastre lost 2.33 to Evans.
>
> > phillip brown
>
> Vuelta 2007 stage 8, 55km TT: 1.37 minuttes.
> Vuelta 2007 stage 21, 22KM TT: 21 seconds.
>
> It will be close

50/50 close?

[Davey Crockett]

SLAVE of THE STATE a écrit profondement:

| On Jul 25, 4:42*pm, Morten Reippuert Knudsen <s...@reippuert.dk>
| wrote:
| > On 2008-07-24 01:41:56 +0200, phillip brown <pjbr...@people.net.au> said:
| >
| >
| >
| > > FWIW, in the final time trial last year, Sastre lost 2.33 to Evans.
| >
| > > phillip brown
| >
| > Vuelta 2007 stage 8, 55km TT: 1.37 minuttes.
| > Vuelta 2007 stage 21, 22KM TT: 21 seconds.
| >
| > It will be close
|
| 50/50 close?
|

Guys!!! Don't sell Kohl short

He's a real truoper and will turn in a good ride

Prolly not good enough, but cheer him on anyway

--
Davey Crockett
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