Astana Fires Gusev

[DirtRoadie]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/feedarticle/7678663

DR

[Nobody]

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:02:02 -0700 (PDT), DirtRoadie
<DirtRoadie@aol.com> wrote:

>http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/feedarticle/7678663
>
>DR

Any pro 'caught' doping is a fool. Astana does not suffer fools.

Outsiders may wish to draw implications. Astana will not disabuse them
of this notion.

[ilanpsi@gmail.com]

On Jul 25, 10:02 pm, DirtRoadie <DirtRoa...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/feedarticle/7678663
>
> DR

The "suspected doping" clause must be new, because watching his
performance in the 2006 Paris-Roubaix was enough to raise suspicions.
He rode stupidly, for example, almost taking Alessandro Ballan down,
and just kept coming back.

-ilan

[Tom Kunich]

"Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:hsdk84t003b3h8u85bbbk5uvqcl8h5blk3@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:02:02 -0700 (PDT), DirtRoadie
> <DirtRoadie@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/feedarticle/7678663
>>
> Any pro 'caught' doping is a fool. Astana does not suffer fools.
>
> Outsiders may wish to draw implications. Astana will not disabuse them
> of this notion.

If there's one thing we are proud of in this group it's the high end
physician/scientist membership who actually know what they're talking about.

[Nobody]

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:37:49 -0700, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.
com> wrote:

>"Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>news:hsdk84t003b3h8u85bbbk5uvqcl8h5blk3@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:02:02 -0700 (PDT), DirtRoadie
>> <DirtRoadie@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/feedarticle/7678663
>>>
>> Any pro 'caught' doping is a fool. Astana does not suffer fools.
>>
>> Outsiders may wish to draw implications. Astana will not disabuse them
>> of this notion.
>
>If there's one thing we are proud of in this group it's the high end
>physician/scientist membership who actually know what they're talking about.

(Checks sarcasm meter...nothing. Replaces batteries)

[Keith]

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:54:12 -0700 (PDT), ilanpsi@gmail.com wrote:

>On Jul 25, 10:02 pm, DirtRoadie <DirtRoa...@aol.com> wrote:
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/feedarticle/7678663
>>
>> DR
>
>The "suspected doping" clause must be new, because watching his
>performance in the 2006 Paris-Roubaix was enough to raise suspicions.
>He rode stupidly, for example, almost taking Alessandro Ballan down,
>and just kept coming back.
>
>-ilan

I don't think Bruyneel is concenred with doping as he proved with the
doped up Armstrong.

[Davey Crockett]

Keith a écrit profondement:


| I don't think Bruyneel is concenred with doping as he proved with the
| doped up Armstrong.

I keep telling you guys, Johan learned what brand of Orange Juice his
riders needed from Manolo ( it just ain't a Tour without him ) Saiz

--
Davey Crockett
-
http://azurservers.com:6080/nationalism/facenntp.jpg

[ilanpsi@gmail.com]

On Jul 26, 3:23 am, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

>he proved with the
> doped up Armstrong.

Finally, I figured out who you really are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtWNVxnmG_4

-ilan

[Keith]

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:37:56 +0200, Davey Crockett
<rec@azurservers.com> wrote:

>Keith a écrit profondement:
>
>
>| I don't think Bruyneel is concenred with doping as he proved with the
>| doped up Armstrong.
>
>I keep telling you guys, Johan learned what brand of Orange Juice his
>riders needed from Manolo ( it just ain't a Tour without him ) Saiz

Yes Bruyneel was on top of the "juice" when he was riding for Once. Do
you guys remember when Bruyneel took off with Big Mig in 1995 just
before the ITT ?

[Bob Schwartz]

Keith wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:37:56 +0200, Davey Crockett
> <rec@azurservers.com> wrote:
>
>> Keith a écrit profondement:
>>
>>
>> | I don't think Bruyneel is concenred with doping as he proved with the
>> | doped up Armstrong.
>>
>> I keep telling you guys, Johan learned what brand of Orange Juice his
>> riders needed from Manolo ( it just ain't a Tour without him ) Saiz
>
> Yes Bruyneel was on top of the "juice" when he was riding for Once. Do
> you guys remember when Bruyneel took off with Big Mig in 1995 just
> before the ITT ?

Dumbass,

Johan caught the train as it left. That's evidence of smart riding, not
doping. Lots of guys could have sat on Mig's wheel and then taken the
stage, if they had been smart enough to see him leave.

But I had forgotten the Bruyneel/Saiz connection. That's funny, given
that Bruyneel is directing Manolo's former team.

Bob Schwartz

[Kurgan Gringioni]

On Jul 26, 8:05*am, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:37:56 +0200, Davey Crockett
>
> <r...@azurservers.com> wrote:
> >Keith a écrit profondement:
>
> >| I don't think Bruyneel is concenred with doping as he proved with the
> >| doped up Armstrong.
>
> >I keep telling you guys, Johan learned what brand of Orange Juice his
> >riders needed from Manolo ( it just ain't a Tour without him ) Saiz
>
> Yes Bruyneel was on top of the "juice" when he was riding for Once. Do
> you guys remember when Bruyneel took off with Big Mig in 1995 just
> before the ITT ?



Dumbass -


That's not a good way to prove that point. Bruyneel sucked wheel the
entire way. He was on Indurain's wheel from the first moment of the
attack. Indurain was nearly dropping him around the hairpins on the
descent. Bruyneel didn't stick his nose out in the wind once until the
finish line.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

[Davey Crockett]

Bob Schwartz a écrit profondement:

|
| Johan caught the train as it left. That's evidence of smart riding, not
| doping. Lots of guys could have sat on Mig's wheel and then taken the
| stage, if they had been smart enough to see him leave.
|
| But I had forgotten the Bruyneel/Saiz connection. That's funny, given
| that Bruyneel is directing Manolo's former team.
|
| Bob Schwartz

To Hell with doping

Davey wants Manolo back

--
Davey Crockett
-
Immigration: Good for nothing
http://darkstar1.azurservers.com:6080/bnp/immigration2.jpg

[Howard Kveck]

In article <3bba518d-7bc2-42de-93a2-940dd7b036cd@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
Kurgan Gringioni <kgringioni@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 26, 8:05*am, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

> > Yes Bruyneel was on top of the "juice" when he was riding for Once. Do
> > you guys remember when Bruyneel took off with Big Mig in 1995 just
> > before the ITT ?

> That's not a good way to prove that point. Bruyneel sucked wheel the
> entire way. He was on Indurain's wheel from the first moment of the
> attack. Indurain was nearly dropping him around the hairpins on the
> descent. Bruyneel didn't stick his nose out in the wind once until the
> finish line.

In fact, he even rode up next to Indurain and was talking to him for a moment or
two part way through that break. I'd bet he was telling Miguel exactly how it was
going to play out at the end.

--
tanx,
Howard

The bloody pubs are bloody dull
The bloody clubs are bloody full
Of bloody girls and bloody guys
With bloody murder in their eyes

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

[Donald Munro]

Bob Schwartz a écrit profondement:
> | Johan caught the train as it left. That's evidence of smart riding, not
> | doping. Lots of guys could have sat on Mig's wheel and then taken the
> | stage, if they had been smart enough to see him leave.
> |
> | But I had forgotten the Bruyneel/Saiz connection. That's funny, given
> | that Bruyneel is directing Manolo's former team.


Davey Crockett wrote:
> To Hell with doping
>
> Davey wants Manolo back

VENGA VENGA