Have too many bikes?

[Ablang]

What are we doing?

Does anyone else here believe that they (or their SOs) have way too
many bikes?

How many bikes do you have? Of those, how many are actively being
used? How many are "project" bikes? If your project bikes outnumber
your active ones, you just might be obsessed w/ bikes.

I admit that I am.

[Tom Sherman]

Ablang wrote:
> What are we doing?
>
> Does anyone else here believe that they (or their SOs) have way too
> many bikes?
>
> How many bikes do you have? Of those, how many are actively being
> used? How many are "project" bikes? If your project bikes outnumber
> your active ones, you just might be obsessed w/ bikes.
>
> I admit that I am.

Too many bicycles is an absurd concept.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"People who had no mercy will find none." - Anon.

[D_Frumious_B@ndersnat.ch]

Ablang <ron916@gmail.com> wrote:
> What are we doing?

> Does anyone else here believe that they (or their SOs) have way too
> many bikes?

Wouldn't that be sorta like "too many Beethoven symphonies?"


Bill



__o | Fear not the path of truth for the lack
_`\(,_ | of people walking on it.
(_)/ (_) | --Robert F. Kennedy

[handel.barz@gmail.com]

On Jul 26, 2:21 pm, Ablang <ron...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What are we doing?
>
> Does anyone else here believe that they (or their SOs) have way too
> many bikes?
>
> How many bikes do you have? Of those, how many are actively being
> used? How many are "project" bikes? If your project bikes outnumber
> your active ones, you just might be obsessed w/ bikes.
>
> I admit that I am.

I don't believe I'm 'obsessed' with bicycles, but I'm the only one in
the family who takes care of them. On last count I have 14 bicycles in
the house. Many of those came from ones I pulled from somebodies trash
because they looked too good to scrap. I've given a few away that I
fixed up. I've received a couple that need repairs and were good for
parts for others I have. I put a motor on one and still ride that
around, because it's fun. Of all the bicycles and frames I have, five
are roadworthy, meaning you could grab it and ride. Some have minor
problems like flat tires, missing pedals etc. The only bicycle parts
I've had to 'buy' lately was a mirror and a brake cable. In my area,
on any given week, you can find whole bicycles or parts of bikes out
by the curb on trash day. I must admit I don't like to see perfectly
good, easily repairable bicycles thrown out, so I 'save them', repair
them and give them away or keep them to ride myself. I've only had
three of them stolen, and they were new bikes. I guess I like the used
older ones because I don't have to lock them up when I use them.

[ilaboo]

> How many bikes do you have? *



i have 5

tia
peter

[bluezfolk]

On Jul 26, 1:21 pm, Ablang <ron...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What are we doing?
>
> Does anyone else here believe that they (or their SOs) have way too
> many bikes?
>
> How many bikes do you have? Of those, how many are actively being
> used? How many are "project" bikes? If your project bikes outnumber
> your active ones, you just might be obsessed w/ bikes.
>
> I admit that I am.

3 and they all get regular use, I'm thinking about a replacement for
one but then 1 will have to go (or at least move from the garage to
the yard).

[marian.rosenberg@gmail.com]

On Jul 27, 2:21*am, Ablang <ron...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What are we doing?
>
> Does anyone else here believe that they (or their SOs) have way too
> many bikes?

Errr... no. Though it can be a bit hairy getting one out when my
three bikes and my housemate's bike are all in the living room parking
area at the same time. We really need some bike racks.

> How many bikes do you have? *

In China - 1 tour, 1 mountain, 1 race, 1 road frame plus a bit at the
big bike shop, 1 race frame at the small bike shop
In the US - 1 bike boom road bike, 1 city bike, 1/2 of a tandem (the
other half belongs to someone else)

> Of those, how many are actively being used? *

Currently only the tour bike.

I would be using the race bike but it's 3000km away. The mountain
bike almost never gets used. The city bike in the US never gets used
(even when I'm in the states). The bike boom road bike in the US
never gets used (even when I'm in the states). The tandem rarely gets
used.

> How many are "project" bikes? *If your project bikes outnumber your
> active ones, you just might be obsessed w/ bikes.

I'm trying to sell the one frame. The other frame is in search of an
owner but is free to good home.

My project bike is still conceptual and hasn't yet gotten to the stage
of collecting parts.

> I admit that I am.

Hello, my name is Marian and I'm a cyclist.

-M

[It's Chris]

Two. One for on road (day rides, endurance and touring) the other a
mountain bike for off road (obviously) and utility/commuting, if I ever
get a chance to bike commute again.

I never saw any use for more, my choices cover every type of riding I
do.

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[Ryan Cousineau]

In article
<cd2dc977-af16-43fd-ba62-4a9212bef9dd@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Ablang <ron916@gmail.com> wrote:

> What are we doing?
>
> Does anyone else here believe that they (or their SOs) have way too
> many bikes?
>
> How many bikes do you have? Of those, how many are actively being
> used? How many are "project" bikes? If your project bikes outnumber
> your active ones, you just might be obsessed w/ bikes.

I have way too many, and classification is not even easy.

Actual rideable bikes:

-crap folding tandem
-crap folding bike
-MTB
-commuter (a tourer that never goes very far)
-race bike
-CX race bike
-ridiculous octospeed TT bike abomination (actually, this may share a
front wheel with the race bike, but I have other wheels to go around)
-unicycle I can't ride (only counts has half a bike, but tandem counts
double, right?)

Close to rideable (all parts present, some assembly required):
-BMX project thing abomination

Active project:
-ludicrous octospeed cheater mud-proof CX bike made from dirt-jump frame
(will steal key parts from TT bike)

Other:
-early-80s Japanese "Bianchi" frame I once rode, now stripped
-most of a Phillips 3-speed
-Apollo that used to be my fixie
-assorted trash frames that are grist for The Pile
-The Pile, a carelessly cultivated mix of parts, junk, and corrosion. I
dug into it the other day looking for a 105 braze-on fder, and found two
Dura-Ace braze-on fders I had forgotten I owned.
-brother's cruiser, here for assembly

I have a problem which is constrained only by the fact that I don't have
a third shed.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

[Tom Keats]

In article <g6fq70$rb0$3@registered.motzarella.org>,
Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
> Ablang wrote:
>> What are we doing?
>>
>> Does anyone else here believe that they (or their SOs) have way too
>> many bikes?
>>
>> How many bikes do you have? Of those, how many are actively being
>> used? How many are "project" bikes? If your project bikes outnumber
>> your active ones, you just might be obsessed w/ bikes.
>>
>> I admit that I am.
>
> Too many bicycles is an absurd concept.


"Too much of a good thing can be wonderful."
-- uttered by Mae West in some antiquated movie


I currently have 4 1/2 bikes. The 1/2 is a
Peugeot Rapport that somebody discarded.
I was intrigued by its 105 pedals with the
3-bolt toeclips. The one-piece hubs clinched
my decision to adopt it.

The others consist of my main bike which I've
previously described, my Sekine mixte (which I've
also previously described,) a road bike which
I cobbled together with the best parts derived
from 3 discarded Bike Boom road bikes, and my
beloved heron-edition Raleigh Twenty.

The Peugeot has a very pretty lugged frame. With
a lightweight wheelset and the right gearing,
it'd be a real go-getter. In fact I just might
integrate the frame w/ my cobbled-together roadie.
When I get a round tuit. Worrying about weird
French/Swiss/Italian threading is a greatly overblown
canard. It can be readily dealt with. OTOH,
cottered cranks present more difficulty -- the bike
shops always seem to have every cotter size & shape
except the one you need. Nevertheless, those slim,
cottered steel cranks are generally so lovely, and
so pleasingly sculpted.

Many other bikes have come 'n gone and passed
through my healing hands, like birdies with
broken wings that have mended and returned to
their free flight o'er this vale of tears.

I wish I could find some replacement 3-bolt toeclips
for those 105 pedals.


cheers,
Tom

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[DanKMTB@gmail.com]

On Jul 26, 2:25*pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
wrote:
> Ablang wrote:
> > What are we doing?
>
> > Does anyone else here believe that they (or their SOs) have way too
> > many bikes?
>
> > How many bikes do you have? *Of those, how many are actively being
> > used? *How many are "project" bikes? *If your project bikes outnumber
> > your active ones, you just might be obsessed w/ bikes.
>
> > I admit that I am.
>
> Too many bicycles is an absurd concept.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> "People who had no mercy will find none." - Anon.

Absolutely.

Anyway, I've got 3 that get regular use: Mountain, Road and
singlespeed/commuter (racks, flip-flop to fixed gear - all the stuff
for foul weather riding/commuting). Then there's the BMX - don't ride
it as much as I used to, but it's specific purpose and can't be parted
with. Then there's the foul-weather/loaner MTB, a full suspension
Marin that I mainly use in the winter when I don't want the nice
mountain bike coming out. Again, indespensible. After that there are
a couple parts/project bikes, but nothing I even pretend to intend to
ride. 2 are trying to become 1 as a giveaway, one is parts for
another project, etc. So yeah, there's a few, and that's the way it
is and should be :)

[landotter]

On Jul 26, 2:02*pm, tkeats2...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:

> I wish I could find some replacement 3-bolt toeclips
> for those 105 pedals.
>
$15 US at loosescrews.com. Those are very nice pedals if you can scare
up some slot cleats to use with them. I think they even had a special
cleat you could get for them as well that gave you a super positive
interface with the pedal.

[Leo Lichtman]

"Tom Keats" wrote: (clip) I was intrigued by its 105 pedals (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's designed to be ridden by 52 1/2 people?

[Tom Keats]

In article <d328cc30-bd80-4b32-ae1d-9fb3a46e0f28@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
landotter <landotter@gmail.com> writes:
> On Jul 26, 2:02*pm, tkeats2...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:
>> I wish I could find some replacement 3-bolt toeclips
>> for those 105 pedals.
>>
> $15 US at loosescrews.com. Those are very nice pedals if you can scare
> up some slot cleats to use with them. I think they even had a special
> cleat you could get for them as well that gave you a super positive
> interface with the pedal.

Thank you muchly for the tip.

I just realized, I practically have a cage pedal collection,
like it's a hobby or sumpthin'.

Maybe I'll stick the Maxxys with the fretworked letter 'M'
in their cages on the Sekine. But first I must have 'em
plated with red gold. I think that'd look pretty sharp
against the raven black paint on the frame. And usually
I find gold rather ostentatious and chintzy. But sometimes
it works.

I also possess a slide rule collection. I even know some
biographical info about William Oughtred and John Napier
(seperately, of course. I dunno if they ever corresponded
or collaborated in their mathematical ventures; I've always
enjoyed wondering if they did. Finding out fer sher one way
or the other would be a spoiler.)

I must be some kinda nerd.

The realization that I'm a pedal collector just snuk up on me.

I appreciate how cage pedals afford so much latitude for
artistic design. By comparison, so many cleated pedals
are such minimalist stubs, although I'm sure they fill
their purposes eminently well. Some of 'em would make
nice pocketwatch fobs or keychain danglers.


cheers,
Tom

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[It's Chris]

From: l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net (Leo*Lichtman)

>"Tom Keats" wrote:

>>(clip) I was intrigued
>>by its 105 pedals (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>It's designed to be ridden by 52 1/2
>people?

What intregues me was the mention (I don't know if it was by the same
person) Of the "one piece hub".

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If you want to E-mail me use:
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[Leo Lichtman]

<D_Frumious_B@ndersnat.ch> wrote in message
news:g6i4t9$t2a$3@news.xmission.com...
> Ablang <ron916@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What are we doing?
>
>> Does anyone else here believe that they (or their SOs) have way too
>> many bikes?
>
> Wouldn't that be sorta like "too many Beethoven symphonies?"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ten would be too manym 'kuz one would be a fake.

[bluezfolk]

On Jul 27, 10:40 am, D_Frumiou...@ndersnat.ch wrote:
> Ablang <ron...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > What are we doing?
> > Does anyone else here believe that they (or their SOs) have way too
> > many bikes?
>
> Wouldn't that be sorta like "too many Beethoven symphonies?"
>
> Bill
>
> __o | Fear not the path of truth for the lack
> _`\(,_ | of people walking on it.
> (_)/ (_) | --Robert F. Kennedy

Personally I think 1 Beethoven symphony would be to much, whereas
with bicycles several would be an acceptable amount.

[Leo Lichtman]

"Tom Keats" wrote: (clip) I also possess a slide rule collection. (clip)
Tom, I tried to send you a picture of an interesting sliderule, but the
e-mail bounced. If you would like to see it, send me a usable address.

[Tom Keats]

In article <24217-488E64FA-120@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net>,
dedendaddy4spammers@webtv.net (It's Chris) writes:
> From: l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net (Leo*Lichtman)
>>"Tom Keats" wrote:
>>>(clip) I was intrigued
>>>by its 105 pedals (clip)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>It's designed to be ridden by 52 1/2
>>people?
> What intregues me was the mention (I don't know if it was by the same
> person) Of the "one piece hub".

That was me. I appreciate one-piece, forged aluminum-alloy hubs.
Especially those old Suzue ones with the wide flanges. The ones
on my salvaged Peugeot Rapport don't have quite such wide
flanges, and I haven't yet determined their manufacture.
But they do look good. Smooth as gemstones. No toolmarks
at all.

The curvature from the middle barrels and up the outer flanges
is pleasantly gently feminine, like the lines of a sleek
sailing ship.

Current hubs are so often fraught with toolmarks and
swaged flanges. It kinda looks disappointingly perfunctory.


cheers,
Tom

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[It's Chris]

Oh, OK. I had this crazy vision of a hub in which all the components
(hub, bearings axle) wer all cast/machined out of a single billet of
material....LOL!

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[Tom Keats]

In article <uDujk.138789$102.24120@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"Leo Lichtman" <l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>
> "Tom Keats" wrote: (clip) I also possess a slide rule collection. (clip)
> Tom, I tried to send you a picture of an interesting sliderule, but the
> e-mail bounced. If you would like to see it, send me a usable address.

My real addy is: tkeats@vcn.bc.ca

The most interesting slide rule I've heard of was a very large
model, mounted on the sides of pickup trucks. It was used by
engineers designing hydro-electric dams in British Columbia.

The engineer would be on one side of the river, and the truck-borne
slide rule on the other. The engineer would look at the slide rule
through binoculars or a transit, and instruct the guy on the other
side as to where to move the slide and cursor.

Circular slide "rules" are profoundly rare nowadays.

I've heard from erstwhile electronics techies about how they'd
avoid slide rules with aluminum frames, opting instead for
wooden ones. Apparently there was a tendency to temporarily
place the rule upon a transformer or other active component,
and possibly get zapped when retrieving a more conductive
slide rule.

One of those Big slide rules, a circular rule, and something
with a vernier cursor would round-out my collection quite nicely.

There are some specifically navigational slide rules that are
quite intriguing, too.

It's notable, how the humble slide rule so enabled
space exploration. That, and understanding how pin-ball
machines work. I bet Galileo would've been manically
obsessed by pin-ball machines, figuring out how they work.


cheers, and tip o' the hat to Kueffel & Esser,
Tom

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[Tom Sherman]

Leo Lichtman wrote:
> <D_Frumious_B@ndersnat.ch> wrote in message
> news:g6i4t9$t2a$3@news.xmission.com...
>> Ablang <ron916@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> What are we doing?
>>> Does anyone else here believe that they (or their SOs) have way too
>>> many bikes?
>> Wouldn't that be sorta like "too many Beethoven symphonies?"
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Ten would be too manym 'kuz one would be a fake.
>
>
There are a couple of "reconstructions" of Beethoven's 10th Symphony
from the sketches he left. Unfortunately, very little is Beethoven, and
the reconstructions are musically disappointing and in all likelihood
not very close to what Beethoven intended.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

[D_Frumious_B@ndersnat.ch]

Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@removethisyahoo.com> wrote:
> Leo Lichtman wrote:
> > <D_Frumious_B@ndersnat.ch> wrote in message
> > news:g6i4t9$t2a$3@news.xmission.com...
> >> Ablang <ron916@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> What are we doing?
> >>> Does anyone else here believe that they (or their SOs) have way too
> >>> many bikes?
> >> Wouldn't that be sorta like "too many Beethoven symphonies?"
> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Ten would be too manym 'kuz one would be a fake.
> >
> >
> There are a couple of "reconstructions" of Beethoven's 10th Symphony
> from the sketches he left. Unfortunately, very little is Beethoven, and
> the reconstructions are musically disappointing and in all likelihood
> not very close to what Beethoven intended.

There's also something called the "Battle Symphony," or "Wellington's
Victory." It commemorates the British/Prussian victory at Waterloo. It
gave the world a melodic line that most know better as "The bear went over
the mountain."
IIRC, that is. Anyway, the point is, if Ludwig himself had written
more, wouldn't you be glad?


Bill

__o | Si hoc legere scis,
_`\(,_ | nimium eruditionis habes.
(_)/ (_) |

[Tom Sherman]

D_Frumious_B@ndersnat.ch wrote:
> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@removethisyahoo.com> wrote:
>> Leo Lichtman wrote:
>>> <D_Frumious_B@ndersnat.ch> wrote in message
>>> news:g6i4t9$t2a$3@news.xmission.com...
>>>> Ablang <ron916@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> What are we doing?
>>>>> Does anyone else here believe that they (or their SOs) have way too
>>>>> many bikes?
>>>> Wouldn't that be sorta like "too many Beethoven symphonies?"
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> Ten would be too manym 'kuz one would be a fake.
>>>
>>>
>> There are a couple of "reconstructions" of Beethoven's 10th Symphony
>> from the sketches he left. Unfortunately, very little is Beethoven, and
>> the reconstructions are musically disappointing and in all likelihood
>> not very close to what Beethoven intended.
>
> There's also something called the "Battle Symphony," or "Wellington's
> Victory." It commemorates the British/Prussian victory at Waterloo. It
> gave the world a melodic line that most know better as "The bear went over
> the mountain."

The tune is "Malbrough" though usually referred to by English writers as
"Marlborough". The origin is unknown but pre-dates the 18th Century.
Sometime after 1709 it was set too words as "Malbrough s'en va-t-en
guerre" and became popular in Paris starting in 1721.

> IIRC, that is. Anyway, the point is, if Ludwig himself had written
> more, wouldn't you be glad?
>
Beethoven, Schubert, Bruckner, Dvorák and Mahler all produced nine
symphonies and died. If I were a composer, I would stop at eight.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

[Phil W Lee]

tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) considered Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:16:24
-0700 the perfect time to write:

>Circular slide "rules" are profoundly rare nowadays.
>
I think they're about the most common type still in regular daily use.
almost all pilots undergoing training will learn how to use one
correctly as it's essetial to pass the navigation exams.
I have an E6B which I find fasterthan an electronic calculator.
I'm also training my son on my dads old sliderule that he had at
school - the circular one comes next :)

[John Thompson]

On 2008-08-04, Tom Keats <tkeats2005@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The most interesting slide rule I've heard of was a very large
> model, mounted on the sides of pickup trucks. It was used by
> engineers designing hydro-electric dams in British Columbia.

Like this?

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/sliderule.jpg

--

John (john@os2.dhs.org)
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

[Tom Keats]

In article <9n7d9417njgrgfohm7cp2of7pfrev83ilt@4ax.com>,
Phil W Lee <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> writes:
> tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) considered Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:16:24
> -0700 the perfect time to write:
>
>>Circular slide "rules" are profoundly rare nowadays.
>>
> I think they're about the most common type still in regular daily use.

It's news to me that any type is still in regular daily use.

> almost all pilots undergoing training will learn how to use one
> correctly as it's essetial to pass the navigation exams.

The slide rule is an amazing and greatly under-apprecreciated
connivance.

> I have an E6B which I find fasterthan an electronic calculator.
> I'm also training my son on my dads old sliderule that he had at
> school - the circular one comes next :)

The best way to fully understand logarithms & trig stuff is to
actually hold it in your hands, and make it real and tangible.


cheers,
Tom

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[Tom Sherman]

Tom Keats wrote:
> ...
> The best way to fully understand logarithms & trig stuff is to
> actually hold it in your hands, and make it real and tangible.
>

"According to the Old Testament, the last time God got fed up with the
mess humans had made of the Earth, He instructed Noah to build a big
watertight vessel and stock it with one breeding pair of every living
thing and provisions for 40 days. Those lucky few would thus ride out
God’s planned 'ethnic cleansing' of serious but unspecified earthly
“wickedness”(perhaps gay marriage and evolution?) and survive to
replenish the Earth.

Of course not everything went according to plan. Apparently a couple of
snakes balked at the instructions relayed by Noah to "Go forth and
multiply," claiming that they couldn’t do that because they were Adders.

But Noah was no dummy. He cobbled together a table out of some tree
trunks and presented it to the snakes, saying: "This is a log table. Now
you can multiply by adding.” - Caroline Arnold

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

[Leo Lichtman]

"Tom Sherman" wrote: (clip) But Noah was no dummy. He cobbled together a
table out of some tree
> trunks and presented it to the snakes, saying: "This is a log table. Now
> you can multiply by adding.” (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Please, Tom--you need help. It's a good old joke, but the punch line should
be, "With log tables, even adders can multiply."