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KarenG
07-28-2008, 08:30 AM
Left work/lunch at 12:30pm on Friday and headed towards Marion, where I would then head to Burnsville & my motel. NealH wanted to do some sort of ride Sunday for recovery and I had delusional thoughts of riding up Hwy 80 from Marion to Mt Mitchell. A little bit about those ideas next...

When I got to Marion, I decided that I would see what this route was like. From the Walmart in Marion, the first 10mi was, IMO, do-able by me. But, then, after this 10 miles, there was a yellow sign with a left arrow and 20mph on it....I looked to the left and O.M.G. The road just turned UP. :eek: OK, I thought...maybe this is harder than I imagined. Yes. As I drove up this road, in second and sometimes first gear, I thought...damn...no way will I be able to do this Sunday.

I thought, well, ok, maybe I'll just do from the first overlook up to Mitchell. Let's just say...NO. Not this time. Then, it was, maybe I'll just do the 5 miles up to the summit. Umm, NO. Not this time....So, no MM on this trip.

Roan Moan.
Well, I had to get up at 4:30am on Saturday because I wanted to get something to eat a few hours before the ride. Left the motel around 5:30am and arrived at the start at 6am. Checked in and then went back to the car to get my stuff ready. It was a little bit cool, something like 63F, and I decided to not take a jacket (very bad idea), but I did take arm warmers.

I don't think there were more than 50 total riders starting the century. Well, I know where I'll be riding...at the back. I rode around a bit before the start to get some bit of warmup, then the ride organizer told us to line up and get our instructions. We were told of the major turns, where dogs were reported, caution areas, etc. This stuff was also painted on the roads. Turns were well marked too. Then, the previous fire chief (musta been a long time ago, cause this fellow was about as old as dirt) pulled a gun out and said "get going" or something to that effect and fired the gun!

We're off. I knew better than to try and keep up with the big dogs...I had 100mi to ride and didn't want to blow it all in the first hour or so. We made a little loop around Bakersville, then headed on the main route. I just had to let people pass me. Very hard to do, but necessary. The terrain was rolling for the first hour. During this time, at around the 30min mark, I felt the first few drops of rain. Just a few sprinkles. Fingers crossed, maybe it will just be light showers. It was overcast and looked like the rain was immenint.

Well, it was...an hour into the ride, the damn bottom fell out. Great. Just freakin' great. I have no jacket, I'm completely soaked. (ChrisA - it rained almost as hard as that day when we TT'd). I did have arm warmers, but elected to leave them in the jersey pocket, as I knew I would need something warm for the descents. *sigh* I thought, this is gonna be one long ass ride today. Soaking wet, water sloshing in my shoes at 18mi. :(

Slogged on...the first climb was at Spivey's Gap. Can't tell you the grade, just don't remember what I was seeing (raining) and the Garmin is F'd up. Anyways, I had caught up with a lot of people, passed some on this climb. It was pretty hard, around 4mi at maybe 7 or 8%, but not sure about this. I hate riding in the rain...especially for any length of time. Makes for getting rashes....:( Finally reach the first rest stop. I don't need anything - I had only drank almost 1 bottle of Perpetuem. I did get a trash bag tho, and put that on for the descent. O.M.G. I was shivering on this descent, my jaw hurt from my teeth chattering. Very cold. And, I couldn't go really fast, cause I'm not comfortable descending on wet roads. Dry roads would've been great.

I hate descending on wet roads. But, off I go. I don't know how far down I was, but, all of a sudden I noticed a whup-whup-whup, thump-thump-thumping noise. I look at the front tire....****. I've got a freakin' flat. :( OK, fine, let's change it and get going. Ummm, not that quick. Seems the tube I have - the stem was not long enough to go all the way through these deep rims. Damnit. People are passing me asking do I need help. No. Until I realize this tube ain't getting it. Some nice guy stops by and gives me his tube. Then, like a dumbass, I forget to unscrew the thingy and lose all my CO2 cause it's not going in the freakin' tube.

I'm mad at this time. I throw the damn wheel down (the SAG had stopped in the meantime) and say F' it, I'm done. Well, Steve (the nice guy) said, "umm, maybe you should try this pump first" Oh. :o OK - pump it up and head out after Steve (he went ahead and left). I finally catch up with him and we ride together for the longest time, into Tennessee, through Erwin, Unicoi, until I'm tired of riding a bit slowly and pull on away from him. (he had a really bum knee and any little incline was hurting him bad).

More rolling terrain, a bit of flat section, 15 to 20 more miles and I'm at the 2nd rest stop. 58 miles done. 42 miles left. Steve's friend is there waiting on him, and we talk for a little bit while waiting on him. I refill both bottles with Perpetuem, eat some cookies and once Steve get's there & refuel's all 3 of us head out together. I stay with them for a while, but again, off I go. Most of the ride is done this way - solo. More rolling/sometimes flatish terrain.

The RR grade is the next best part of this ride. We follow along the old Tweetsie (i guess) RR grade. Very nice pavement, beautiful scenery. The grade is really nice - no major climbing, just nice easy stuff. Don't recall how long this was though. One more rest stop in this section. I don't get anything except some peanut M&M's. Head on out. Still solo. I think I'm somewhere around 80mi into the ride.

Finally arrive in Roan Mountain, Tennessee. The road leading into RM is nice & smooth, but has the "rumble strips of death". There is a nice shoulder to ride on, but those are between you and the travel lane. That's ok, until the shoulder runs out....I had to cross those damn things at 20 something mph. O.M.G. I just knew I was gonna get a flat outa that. Up next is the sign for RM Park. The skies, which had been clear & sun out since the second rest stop, started to darken. Approaching cars had their lights on and wipers on intermmitent. Uh Oh. :(

So, yes, you guessed it. I'm getting rained on for the second time. This isn't quite the downpour as the first hour, but it's raining just the same. Then it quits - for a short time. I finally enter the actual RM Park. Very nice park. Saw a couple of deer standing off to one side. Got a pic of one of them. This road is the same as all the others, rolling. But, wait....the real climb is coming up....and oh boy, when it starts, it is freakin' relentless.

7 or 8 miles of climbing up to Carver's Gap. I had a consistant 9% showing on my garmin with some 11 to 13% in some curves. Confirmed by Neal. Man, this was hard. So, hard, it had one guy walking. I thought how in the hell are you gonna walk all the way to the top????? I passed him and then his friend a short time later. This guy was SO struggling, his pedaling motion made my knees hurt. It was awful to watch. Those 2 eventually SAGged to the top. Anyways, 9% on and on. Just found a pace, very slow, that I felt somewhat comfortable with and kept moving. I found myself just looking down, watching my feet, making them turn the pedals over, making sure that I wasn't pedaling toe-down. :rolleyes: had to do something besides look upgrade or at the computer. :) I guess the one good thing about this climb...it was a lot of straight sections and some curves. Nothing like Cullowhee Mtn or even Hwy 80.

Then, wow! The grade seemed much easier. Peek at the computer...Yes! 5% to 7% grade. Hell yes. Gear down and stand up to pedal for these short sections. O.M.G. I never would have thought a 5% grade to be easy, but after such long 9% sections, it was a relief. There were mile markers painted on the road too - to let you know how much further you had to go. At the 5mi to go mark, I felt the drops of rain again. Not again. But, yes, and just as damn hard as before or harder. God, what a brutal climb. I was never so glad to reach the top. And I was freezing. I don't know what the temp was - butt freakin' cold is what it was!

Steve SAGged to the top and I talked with him and the friend for a little. Standing around for about 5-10 minutes, my knees were so sore. And, I was so cold. Where was that hot shower??? Oh, at the end. :( Steve & his friend told me to put the trash bag I had in the front of my jersey to block the cold wind on the descent. I'm soooo glad I did that! It helped a lot. But I still had chattering teeth on the descent. I found that the optimal speed was 21mph or less. Faster than this and I was extremely cold. This speed or less, and it was somewhat bearable. My knees hurt something fierce on this descent. 12mi. 12mi of freakin' freezing. Finally, you could feel the temps changing. Warmth! Never so glad to get off a mountain. Another wet road descent. Then, there was a small climb and downhill to the end.

KarenG
07-28-2008, 08:30 AM
Whew. I was never so glad to be done with a ride (except AoM). A hot shower and a cold beer was what I wanted. I got one of those and had to wait for the other. Man. What a ride. Not sure that I'll do the century next year. I think the metric might be enough. After the shower, ate a hotdog & hamburger, sat around and talked with Steve and 3 of his friends. 2 of which were from the Burnsville area. Didn't see anyone else that I knew.

It was a really good ride, beautiful scenery, well supported. I think I would like to ride that again, but, damnit, not in the rain. And, this was the umpteenth time for the ride to have rain.

Stats:
Distance=101mi
Ride time=7:12hr
Total time=8:30hr (rest stops & damn flat tire)
Elevation change=8000+/- (garmin is F'd up and won't even download to training center)

Talked to my friend Andy (Sylva) later that night and he wanted me to come over and ride a "flat recovery" ride with him....


Sunday Recovery Ride with BWNC.
Yea...so, I told him that I would think about it, if he could find a ride that didn't have too much climbing...I'd had enough for one weekend. So, of course he does....50 miles, maybe 2000-2500' was what he said.

So, another early rise morning...5:30am cause NealH and I had to be in Sylva around 8-8:30am. We get there and head out shortly - through town and follow roads that are along the Tuckaseegee River and a tributary (Caney Fork Creek maybe). About as flat as one can get in the mountains. Very beautiful morning. We're moving along pretty dang fast too. So much for Mr. "I Haven't Ridden In 10 Days". Didn't seem to affect him one bit. I'm hanging on to his wheel for all I'm worth. Be damned if I'm getting dropped (except on longish climbs, which I know not to try and keep up. that = wp blowing up).

When I asked last night where we would be riding, Andy said Caney Fork route. Looking at the profile, it looked like one heck of a serious climb. Not that bad. About .5mi long. I let NealH & Andy go on and climbed it at my pace. They were waiting at the top on me, and we headed on down the other side. I pulled up alongside Andy on a straight downhill section and asked him if that was "it". Yes. Oh. I was expecting something harder.

The rest of the ride, to the turn around point was one looooonnnngggggg false flat, maybe 2%. And, he's pulling us along at a pretty good clip. You really don't realize what the grade is like until you start back and pick speed up really fast. We take a short break and head back down. I'm leading out and the speed just seems to get faster. I keep looking around to see where the guys are at...way back behind me. Is he EVER gonna catch up??? What took you so dang long??

Andy finally catches up to me, takes the lead and proceeds to see how fast we can go downhill. He's cranking it! I hang right with him. Not getting away from me! 33 to 35mph we are going! Sweet. All 3 of us take turns pulling and at one time, NealH comments - I thought we weren't supposed to work so hard going DOWNHILL!! :rofl:

It was a really good ride back to Sylva. All of us taking turns. I think Andy and Neal would get to talking when it was my turn to take pulls. Every dang time, I pull off expecting someone else to take lead and those two are no where to be found! What the heck is up with that?? He's complaining - you're puttin' a hurting on me. Sure. You guys are just back there jabbering.

It was a really good ride. Don't know if I'd call it a recovery ride tho ....

Went to lunch with the guys afterwards and then headed home. I was soooo tired. Could've used a nap, but managed without one.

Stats:
Distance=52mi
Ride Time=2:52
Elevation change=~1900-2000'
Avg=18mph

Totals for the weekend:
153 miles
10,000+/- elevation.

Pictures to come.....

KarenG
07-28-2008, 08:32 AM
at the ride start:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02340800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02343800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02344800x600.jpg

don't recall where a lot of the pics are, but when i can remember, i'll state so...
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02346800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02347800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02349800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02350800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02352800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02354800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02355800x600.jpg

KarenG
07-28-2008, 08:32 AM
i know these few are in TN, don't remember the town...
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02357800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02358800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02359800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02360800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02361800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02363800x600.jpg

RR grade:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02372800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02375800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02377800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02378800x600.jpg

KarenG
07-28-2008, 08:33 AM
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02381800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02382800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02384800x600.jpg

Roan Mountain, TN:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02385800x600.jpg

A happy face before the next rain:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02387800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02388800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02389800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02391800x600.jpg

Climbing Roan:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02394800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02395800x600.jpg

KarenG
07-28-2008, 08:34 AM
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02398800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02399800x600.jpg

Carver's Gap:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02400800x600.jpg

A few towards the end of the ride:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02401800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Moan/DSC02402800x600.jpg

Sunday "Recovery Ride"
NealH:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Recovery%20Ride/DSC02403800x600.jpg

Andy:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Recovery%20Ride/DSC02404800x600.jpg

Various pics along the route:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Recovery%20Ride/DSC02408800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Recovery%20Ride/DSC02409800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Recovery%20Ride/DSC02412800x600.jpg

KarenG
07-28-2008, 08:34 AM
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Recovery%20Ride/DSC02413800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Recovery%20Ride/DSC02418800x600.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/khgulledge/Roan%20Recovery%20Ride/DSC02421800x600.jpg

NealH
07-28-2008, 08:53 PM
Awesome write up Karen. The rain notwithstanding, its one of the best rides that I have been on. My new camera arrived just before I left on Friday and, due to it raining at the start I did not carry it. I am glad you managed to get some pictures.

There were more people riding the metric than the century, though still not as many as I had expected. I am sure the weather played a role in the decision to ride or not for some. But, it was a very pleasant ride and, the metric riders escaped most of the rain due to starting two hours later and finishing earlier. However, we still got a good soak'in. I remember looking down at my feet early in the ride and, during each pedal stroke a wave of water would slosh out of my shoe. But after an hour or so, the metric riders did not see any significant rain again.

The two things that stick in my mind are the railroad grade and, of course Roan Mountain. The Tweetsie RR grade is a one lane paved path about 10 or 11 miles long traversing through a near storybook type landscape. Lush with vegetation and trees covering the path, and beautiful views of the Roan valley. If someone were to ask me, what would the perfect bike route be like, in my mind this is about as close as it gets.

And for Roan Mountain, well it is a serious climb. It strikes me as being the quintessential mountain climb. Its relatively long with a steep grade - a solid 9% average for 7 miles - enough to make one keep hoping the summit is just around the next bend, but it never is - it just goes and goes. Heat is not a problem because the temperature steadily drops during the climb. The following descent is about 12 miles at a more relaxed grade (-7% or so). The radiuses of the curves are more relaxed allowing faster speeds through the turns, assuming it's not raining. It was really great as I just sat back and averaged 35 or 40 mph for 30 minutes while swooshing through the turns. Very little traffic too.

Following is the profile for the metric. The first peak is Iron Mountain and, the second peak is Roan Mountain.

http://rnhood.zenfolio.com/img/v0/p124997028-5.jpg

TomG
07-30-2008, 07:52 AM
Nice job Karen! Great pics! I'm so jealous! :D