Bicycle Riding: Keeping Warm in the Cold Weather

[erness.wild@gmail.com]

One of the discomforts of bicycle riding is the chill you get when
cold weather comes. I like to ride when ever the roads allow it, but
the cold can make the experience a negative one. Wearing heavy parkas,
hats, gloves and boots on a bicycle somehow takes away from the ride,
even if I am warm. I've been experimenting with plastic vests under my
jacket with some good success. The cool air won't penetrate the
plastic, keeping my core temperature from dropping. Sound silly? It
does work. I don't suggest using plastic bags, they tend to move
around and are difficult to manage. I have used large pop bottle
plastic, sewn together and find it's stiff enough to stay put over my
chest. I haven't had much success with face masks other than to
migrate to a motorcycle helmet with a plastic shield. I'm not a fan of
helmets, (but lets not open that 'can of worms'). It seems like a good
form of recycling to use a few large pop bottles in that fashion. I
have also found the large plastic pop bottles will cut down nicely for
hand grip shields. Carve a wedge out the the neck of the bottle, and
it will clip onto my handle bar to make small wind shielding for my
hands. It doesn't look too rediculous as the plastic is transparent
over the hand-grips and of course the plastic vest is under my jacket.
I do like to ride.

[rms]

> I've been experimenting with plastic vests under my
> jacket with some good success. The cool air won't penetrate the
> plastic, keeping my core temperature from dropping. Sound silly? It
> does work.

No doubt, but why? Core temperature is not the problem on a bike. Full
Stop. The problem is protecting the extremities and joints: face, ears,
neck, fingers wrists and forearms, feet and knees: the parts most
vulnerable to windchill.

> have also found the large plastic pop bottles will cut down nicely for
> hand grip shields.

This is interesting, I'd happily buy a commercial handlebar-mounted
plastic handgrips windshield, if there was such a thing. And some sort of
windshield attachment for the pedals, or barring that,
shin/ankle/top-of-foot covers. Last year I experimented with Neos
UptownerX's, the XL's just big enough to fit over my size 13 running shoes,
and they do work also, down into the 20F range for a few hours, usually
enough for me. In colder temps much foot heat is also lost through the shoe
soles, necessitating boot-type insulation, but for most of the winter here a
simple fixed windshield would be enough.

rms

rms

[Tom Sherman]

erness.wild@gmail.com wrote:
> One of the discomforts of bicycle riding is the chill you get when
> cold weather comes. I like to ride when ever the roads allow it, but
> the cold can make the experience a negative one. Wearing heavy parkas,
> hats, gloves and boots on a bicycle somehow takes away from the ride,
> even if I am warm....

Heavy parka? I used to ride to school every day in the Wisconsin winter,
and I never wore more than a windbreaker over a sweater and had no
problems keeping warm.

Good ski gloves will work for your hands and a ski mask and goggles will
protect your face. The only hard part is keeping your feet warm
(typically the limiting factor for me). Insulated hiking boots with
Power Grips is one alternative. Another is SPD clipless sandals one size
too large, a wicking inner sock, a heavy wool blend middle sock and an
outer windproof sock.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

[Tom Sherman]

erness.wild@gmail.com wrote:
> One of the discomforts of bicycle riding is the chill you get when
> cold weather comes. I like to ride when ever the roads allow it, but
> the cold can make the experience a negative one....

If I ever get a garage, I will consider one of these for winter riding:
<http://leitra.dk/news.php>.

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“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

[max]

In article
<c2391193-fa25-4da8-8ac3-eff7a8dd8ea2@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>,
erness.wild@gmail.com wrote:

> . I
> have also found the large plastic pop bottles will cut down nicely for
> hand grip shields. Carve a wedge out the the neck of the bottle, and
> it will clip onto my handle bar to make small wind shielding for my
> hands.

i used to go through a lot of machinations to keep my hands warm, but
then i got a pair of 20 gram (i think?) Thinsulate goretex blaze orange
hunters gloves from Gander Mountain. I've tested them to 8 miles in
-20F: quite comfy.

I got the gloves on season closeout for about $10, and they've lasted
two seasons. no more machinations.

ymmv.

..max

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[Peter Cole]

erness.wild@gmail.com wrote:
> One of the discomforts of bicycle riding is the chill you get when
> cold weather comes. I like to ride when ever the roads allow it, but
> the cold can make the experience a negative one. Wearing heavy parkas,
> hats, gloves and boots on a bicycle somehow takes away from the ride,
> even if I am warm. I've been experimenting with plastic vests under my
> jacket with some good success. The cool air won't penetrate the
> plastic, keeping my core temperature from dropping. Sound silly? It
> does work. I don't suggest using plastic bags, they tend to move
> around and are difficult to manage. I have used large pop bottle
> plastic, sewn together and find it's stiff enough to stay put over my
> chest. I haven't had much success with face masks other than to
> migrate to a motorcycle helmet with a plastic shield. I'm not a fan of
> helmets, (but lets not open that 'can of worms'). It seems like a good
> form of recycling to use a few large pop bottles in that fashion. I
> have also found the large plastic pop bottles will cut down nicely for
> hand grip shields. Carve a wedge out the the neck of the bottle, and
> it will clip onto my handle bar to make small wind shielding for my
> hands. It doesn't look too rediculous as the plastic is transparent
> over the hand-grips and of course the plastic vest is under my jacket.
> I do like to ride.

Strange topic for this time of year.

If you ride hard, moisture (sweat) management can be the big problem.
Tight, but breathable fabrics seem the best solution. My favorite
material is synthetic stretch fleece. Wind chill on "leading edges" can
be a problem, but not too hard to solve with strategic placement of
windproof fabric. For DIY, I'd think that sewing a little nylon would be
easier and more comfortable than sewing pop bottles.

For face protection, I've used ski goggles with a homemade band of thin
stretch fleece, slightly wider than a typical headband. I use it with a
balaclava (thin, stretch). I put it just under the goggles to just over
my nose. With the balaclava covering the chin, there's no skin exposed
except the upper lip/mouth. Covering those areas leads to icing problems.

Wind shields for handlebars can work well with flat bars, but so do mittens.

[John Thompson]

On 2008-07-30, erness.wild@gmail.com <erness.wild@gmail.com> wrote:

> One of the discomforts of bicycle riding is the chill you get when
> cold weather comes. I like to ride when ever the roads allow it, but
> the cold can make the experience a negative one. Wearing heavy parkas,
> hats, gloves and boots on a bicycle somehow takes away from the ride,
> even if I am warm. I've been experimenting with plastic vests under my
> jacket with some good success. The cool air won't penetrate the
> plastic, keeping my core temperature from dropping. Sound silly? It
> does work.

The "old school" approach to this was to stuff a piece of newspaper
under the front of your jersey. When you get warm you just drop it in
the trash/recycling and continue on your way.

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[erness.wild@gmail.com]

>[snipe] No doubt, but why? Core temperature is not the problem on a bike. Full
> Stop. The problem is protecting the extremities and joints: face, ears,
> neck, fingers wrists and forearms, feet and knees: the parts most
> vulnerable to windchill.
>
For me, where the temp around here goes to 10 degress below freezing
and more, it is. [double full stop]. I've had double pneumonia once. I
don't feel cold much in where you're describing it for you. I wear a
jacket with a high collar and wrist snaps. A head band covers the
ears.

[erness.wild@gmail.com]

> [snip] This is interesting, I'd happily buy a commercial handlebar-mounted
> plastic handgrips windshield, if there was such a thing. And some sort of
> windshield attachment for the pedals, or barring that,
> shin/ankle/top-of-foot covers.

It's the hands that I made the homebuilt hand grip shields for.
They're easy to make from a large plastic pop bottle, using sissors
and a hacksaw to open up the neck of the container. I've been riding
without gloves using them. But not when there's no foam grips on the
bars. One of my bicycles is just chrome bars. I've also tried to make
a face mask using large plastic pop bottles but it fogs up once I
start breathing hard. Haven't perfected it yet. Maybe some small holes
in it would do. Have to wait till the cold weather comes back to try
it again.
Probably what we need is a light weight 'spacesuit' that would do the
job, but wouldn't look fashionable. People would rather freeze than
dress properly.
The nice thing about the hand grip shields is they're easy to put on
and take off.

[Tom Sherman]

rms wrote:
> ...
> This is interesting, I'd happily buy a commercial handlebar-mounted
> plastic handgrips windshield, if there was such a thing. And some sort of
> windshield attachment for the pedals, or barring that,
> shin/ankle/top-of-foot covers. Last year I experimented with Neos
> UptownerX's, the XL's just big enough to fit over my size 13 running shoes,
> and they do work also, down into the 20F range for a few hours, usually
> enough for me. In colder temps much foot heat is also lost through the shoe
> soles, necessitating boot-type insulation, but for most of the winter here a
> simple fixed windshield would be enough.
>
I believe they make bar mounted hand warmers (windproof insulated
sleeves) for snowmobiles - might be possible to mount these to a bicycle.

Insulated foot fairing are an idea, but I would only try them on a
trike, since foot extraction would likely be too difficult for bicycle use.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

[Peter Cole]

rms wrote:
>> I've been experimenting with plastic vests under my
>> jacket with some good success. The cool air won't penetrate the
>> plastic, keeping my core temperature from dropping. Sound silly? It
>> does work.
>
> No doubt, but why? Core temperature is not the problem on a bike. Full
> Stop. The problem is protecting the extremities and joints: face, ears,
> neck, fingers wrists and forearms, feet and knees: the parts most
> vulnerable to windchill.
>
>> have also found the large plastic pop bottles will cut down nicely for
>> hand grip shields.
>
> This is interesting, I'd happily buy a commercial handlebar-mounted
> plastic handgrips windshield, if there was such a thing. And some sort of
> windshield attachment for the pedals, or barring that,
> shin/ankle/top-of-foot covers. Last year I experimented with Neos
> UptownerX's, the XL's just big enough to fit over my size 13 running shoes,
> and they do work also, down into the 20F range for a few hours, usually
> enough for me. In colder temps much foot heat is also lost through the shoe
> soles, necessitating boot-type insulation, but for most of the winter here a
> simple fixed windshield would be enough.

The easy solution is getting oversize shoes and very thick socks. Duct
tape over any mesh openings is another cheap improvement.

[Doc O'Leary]

In article <gN2kk.13806$LG4.10625@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"rms" <rsquires@REMOVEflashMOO.net> wrote:

> > I've been experimenting with plastic vests under my
> > jacket with some good success. The cool air won't penetrate the
> > plastic, keeping my core temperature from dropping. Sound silly? It
> > does work.
>
> No doubt, but why? Core temperature is not the problem on a bike. Full
> Stop. The problem is protecting the extremities and joints: face, ears,
> neck, fingers wrists and forearms, feet and knees: the parts most
> vulnerable to windchill.

You imagine the two are unrelated, but they are not. A major reason
your extremities are cold is because your circulation is being
restricted to maintain your core temperature. If you don't believe me,
try biking around with your core naked and exposed to wind chill and see
how well your extremities do even when protected. There is your "Full
Stop".

To the OP, just wear a windbreaker on the *outside* of whatever
insulating layers you have. I'm in Minnesota and I'm fine (if I'm
moving) down to 0F with little more than 3 layers of wind breaker,
regular cycling gear, and polypropylene long underwear. Head, hands,
and feet get no special attention beyond regular winter balaclava,
gloves, and wool socks.

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"rms" <rsquires@REMOVEflashMOO.net> wrote in message
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>> I've been experimenting with plastic vests under my
>> jacket with some good success. The cool air won't penetrate the
>> plastic, keeping my core temperature from dropping. Sound silly? It
>> does work.
>
> No doubt, but why? Core temperature is not the problem on a bike.
> Full Stop. The problem is protecting the extremities and joints: face,
> ears, neck, fingers wrists and forearms, feet and knees: the parts most
> vulnerable to windchill.

Although I don't do huge excursions in the dead of winter and confine my
rides to less than 30 minute commute/utility rides about town when the snows
fall, my problem is sweat. If I dress warmly enough I will sweat. And when
you stop... being sweaty in the cold, that is not good.

I think I must have good circulation as my extremities never seem to be a
problem requiring anything other than the normal winter wear. Maybe an extra
pair of heavy socks on the feet.

[Laurie]

"rms" <rsquires@REMOVEflashMOO.net> wrote in
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> usually enough for me. In colder temps much foot heat is also lost
> through the shoe soles, necessitating boot-type insulation, but for
> most of the winter here a simple fixed windshield would be enough.
>
> rms
>
> rms
>

These battery insoles solved my numb toes winter riding problem here in
Maine. I use rechargable batteries and can ride at least an hour.

http://www.bodyheaters.com/store/bodyheaters-heated-insoles-p-49.html

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[Tom Sherman]

erness.wild@gmail.com wrote:
>> [snipe] No doubt, but why? Core temperature is not the problem on a bike. Full
>> Stop. The problem is protecting the extremities and joints: face, ears,
>> neck, fingers wrists and forearms, feet and knees: the parts most
>> vulnerable to windchill.
>>
> For me, where the temp around here goes to 10 degress below freezing
> and more, it is. [double full stop]. I've had double pneumonia once. I
> don't feel cold much in where you're describing it for you. I wear a
> jacket with a high collar and wrist snaps. A head band covers the
> ears.

I expect breathing in the cold air may be more of a problem than low
core temperature.

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“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

[Peter Cole]

erness.wild@gmail.com wrote:
>> [snipe] No doubt, but why? Core temperature is not the problem on a bike. Full
>> Stop. The problem is protecting the extremities and joints: face, ears,
>> neck, fingers wrists and forearms, feet and knees: the parts most
>> vulnerable to windchill.
>>
> For me, where the temp around here goes to 10 degress below freezing
> and more, it is. [double full stop]. I've had double pneumonia once. I
> don't feel cold much in where you're describing it for you. I wear a
> jacket with a high collar and wrist snaps. A head band covers the
> ears.

Balaclavas take care of the head, ears and neck. Mitten shells with
gauntlets take care of wind leaks at the sleeves.

[cmcanulty]

Part of the problem is when roads are snow or ice covered and
slippery you have to ride slower and so generate less body heat, but I
bike in up to -30 F (temp not wind chill) in Marquette, MI with a
parka, a head cover of neoprene made for scuba divers and double warm
mittens.

[Peter Cole]

max wrote:
> In article
> <c2391193-fa25-4da8-8ac3-eff7a8dd8ea2@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>,
> erness.wild@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> . I
>> have also found the large plastic pop bottles will cut down nicely for
>> hand grip shields. Carve a wedge out the the neck of the bottle, and
>> it will clip onto my handle bar to make small wind shielding for my
>> hands.
>
> i used to go through a lot of machinations to keep my hands warm, but
> then i got a pair of 20 gram (i think?) Thinsulate goretex blaze orange
> hunters gloves from Gander Mountain. I've tested them to 8 miles in
> -20F: quite comfy.
>
> I got the gloves on season closeout for about $10, and they've lasted
> two seasons. no more machinations.
>
> ymmv.
>
> .max
>

The best gloves I have found were also a cheap ($10) pair of thinsulate.
Not cycling gloves, but much more effective than any cycling gloves I
have tried (many). Not bulky, either.

[Peter Cole]

cmcanulty wrote:
> Part of the problem is when roads are snow or ice covered and
> slippery you have to ride slower and so generate less body heat,

Using studded tires tends to solve the problem -- you can ride faster
and the tires have a lot more rolling resistance.

> but I
> bike in up to -30 F (temp not wind chill) in Marquette, MI with a
> parka, a head cover of neoprene made for scuba divers and double warm
> mittens.

I've never had much luck with neoprene. I've tried it for wet, cold
riding (gloves, booties). Not very warm and seems better at holding
moisture in than keeping it out.

For head protection I use a balaclava (synthetic fleece). I only need a
thin one, even riding in sub-zero (F). I have heavier ones, but they're
way to hot.

When it's really cold, I like mitten shells over gloves. Better
dexterity than just mittens, and easy to remove & stash if your hands
get sweaty or you need to use your fingers.

[Tom Sherman]

Yooper cmcanulty wrote:
> Part of the problem is when roads are snow or ice covered and
> slippery you have to ride slower

Not on a trike.

> and so generate less body heat, but I
> bike in up to -30 F (temp not wind chill) in Marquette, MI with a
> parka, a head cover of neoprene made for scuba divers and double warm
> mittens.

What about the feet?

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[Tom Keats]

In article <jsjkk.496$wS4.208@trnddc03>,
Peter Cole <peter_cole@verizon.net> writes:

> When it's really cold, I like mitten shells over gloves. Better
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> dexterity than just mittens, and easy to remove & stash if your hands
> get sweaty or you need to use your fingers.

I have a Thinsulate pair of those; the finger ends
are flaps that can be folded back, freeing my gloved
fingers underneath, without having to take the
mitten shells off.

They're one of my best bicycling-related purchases.
I bought them on a whim, from a drugstore bargain bin.

They lend themselves so well to the layering approach
to warmth control.

I haven't used them in extreme sub-freezing temps,
but as a cold-weather Raynaud's sufferer, I sure
appreciate them.


cheers,
Tom

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[erness.wild@gmail.com]

On Aug 1, 9:34 am, John Thompson <j...@vector.os2.dhs.org> wrote:
> On 2008-07-30, erness.w...@gmail.com <erness.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > One of the discomforts of bicycle riding is the chill you get when
> > cold weather comes. I like to ride when ever the roads allow it, but
> > the cold can make the experience a negative one. Wearing heavy parkas,
> > hats, gloves and boots on a bicycle somehow takes away from the ride,
> > even if I am warm. I've been experimenting with plastic vests under my
> > jacket with some good success. The cool air won't penetrate the
> > plastic, keeping my core temperature from dropping. Sound silly? It
> > does work.
>
> The "old school" approach to this was to stuff a piece of newspaper
> under the front of your jersey. When you get warm you just drop it in
> the trash/recycling and continue on your way.
>
> --
>
> John (j...@os2.dhs.org)
> ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

Sometimes I wonder at this year being 2008. All the invention
predictions in the 1900's thought we would be so much more advanced.
It's hard to believe there isn't some kind of breathable, warm suit
for cold outdoors that does more to protect the face and provide for
heavy breathing in cold weather exercise.
They have pressure suits for pilots, space suits for astronauts,
diving suits for divers but still no light, exercise suit for cold
outdoors. What would it take to make something workable yet 'stylish'.
('cuz nobody would wear it unless it was stylish.)

[John Thompson]

On 2008-08-07, erness.wild@gmail.com <erness.wild@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 1, 9:34 am, John Thompson <j...@vector.os2.dhs.org> wrote:
>> On 2008-07-30, erness.w...@gmail.com <erness.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The "old school" approach to this was to stuff a piece of newspaper
>> under the front of your jersey. When you get warm you just drop it in
>> the trash/recycling and continue on your way.

> Sometimes I wonder at this year being 2008. All the invention
> predictions in the 1900's thought we would be so much more advanced.

I gave up hope when it became apparent that the personal computer
wouldn't actually do my homework for me. That's not what Walter Cronkite
intimated in his show "The 21st Century." :-)

> It's hard to believe there isn't some kind of breathable, warm suit
> for cold outdoors that does more to protect the face and provide for
> heavy breathing in cold weather exercise.

Like Gore-Tex? Works for me. A Gore-Tex rain jacket with zipper
openings under the arms for ventilation works pretty well. I bought mine
back around 1979 and it's still just fine.

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[max]

In article
<fa5d7aeb-534d-478e-9260-178baa48ffab@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
erness.wild@gmail.com wrote:

> On Aug 1, 9:34 am, John Thompson <j...@vector.os2.dhs.org> wrote:
> > On 2008-07-30, erness.w...@gmail.com <erness.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > One of the discomforts of bicycle riding is the chill you get when
> > > cold weather comes. I like to ride when ever the roads allow it, but
> > > the cold can make the experience a negative one. Wearing heavy parkas,
> > > hats, gloves and boots on a bicycle somehow takes away from the ride,
> > > even if I am warm. I've been experimenting with plastic vests under my
> > > jacket with some good success. The cool air won't penetrate the
> > > plastic, keeping my core temperature from dropping. Sound silly? It
> > > does work.
> >
> > The "old school" approach to this was to stuff a piece of newspaper
> > under the front of your jersey. When you get warm you just drop it in
> > the trash/recycling and continue on your way.
> >
> > --
> >
> > John (j...@os2.dhs.org)
> > ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
>
> Sometimes I wonder at this year being 2008. All the invention
> predictions in the 1900's thought we would be so much more advanced.
> It's hard to believe there isn't some kind of breathable, warm suit
> for cold outdoors that does more to protect the face and provide for
> heavy breathing in cold weather exercise.
> They have pressure suits for pilots, space suits for astronauts,
> diving suits for divers but still no light, exercise suit for cold
> outdoors. What would it take to make something workable yet 'stylish'.
> ('cuz nobody would wear it unless it was stylish.)

What are you talking about?? You need to acquaint yourself with
polypro, thinsulate-like and goretex-like materials.

My -20F kit weighs in at a very small number. I don't know exactly ...
maybe i'll try to weigh it tonight. My setup is virtually invulnerable
to temps down to -20, and probably a bit further, but it just doesn't
get any colder than that in Chicago. It's very suitable for heavy
excercise, including plowing 6" of snow with a bike :-) and riding
across miles of lumpy, hard, glare ice.

In any case, its very light, it's waterproof, and it breathes quite
well. All for under $100 total if you pay attention to the sales.
This is kind of the wrong season for sales, so i would recommend you hit
the thrift stores, _now_ to assemble your kit, if you're intrested.

As for stylish... well... pick up a copy of Vanity Fair -- "stylish"
can be pretty subjective.

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[Peter Cole]

erness.wild@gmail.com wrote:

> Sometimes I wonder at this year being 2008. All the invention
> predictions in the 1900's thought we would be so much more advanced.
> It's hard to believe there isn't some kind of breathable, warm suit
> for cold outdoors that does more to protect the face and provide for
> heavy breathing in cold weather exercise.
> They have pressure suits for pilots, space suits for astronauts,
> diving suits for divers but still no light, exercise suit for cold
> outdoors. What would it take to make something workable yet 'stylish'.
> ('cuz nobody would wear it unless it was stylish.)

You just need to do some browsing, there's lots of outdoor gear that
outperforms traditional materials. Cycling is neither unique nor extreme
in its clothing requirements. You don't need a space suit.

[Brian Huntley]

On Aug 7, 2:53*pm, erness.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 1, 9:34 am, John Thompson <j...@vector.os2.dhs.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 2008-07-30, erness.w...@gmail.com <erness.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > One of the discomforts of bicycle riding is the chill you get when
> > > cold weather comes. I like to ride when ever the roads allow it, but
> > > the cold can make the experience a negative one. Wearing heavy parkas,
> > > hats, gloves and boots on a bicycle somehow takes away from the ride,
> > > even if I am warm. I've been experimenting with plastic vests under my
> > > jacket with some good success. The cool air won't penetrate the
> > > plastic, keeping my core temperature from dropping. Sound silly? It
> > > does work.
>
> > The "old school" approach to this was to stuff a piece of newspaper
> > under the front of your jersey. When you get warm you just drop it in
> > the trash/recycling and continue on your way.
>
> > --
>
> > John (j...@os2.dhs.org)
> > ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**
>
> Sometimes I wonder at this year being 2008. All the invention
> predictions in the 1900's thought we would be so much more advanced.

We are - modern ink doesn't come off the newspapers like it used to.