What's wrong with this picture?

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

[BassManNate]

On Jul 30, 1:24*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:
> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Holy crap...I can't believe they took a picture of it like
that...You'd think someone would notice that the fork is backwards.

[Art Harris]

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233
>

Nothing. The fancy fork is a feature.

Art Harris

[BassManNate]

On Jul 30, 1:24*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:
> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Oh, and it still has that little plastic guard on the rear axle that
they put on for shipping.

[Roger Zoul]

"Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote

> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233


Nothing. It's a toysrus.com joke bike, with a joke folk too.

[Warren Block]

Mike Jacoubowsky <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233

The, er, fork rake problem--too obvious.
Shopping for bikes at a toy place--too obvious.
"Add to baby registry"--too obvious.

So it must be that they say it's a 26" frame.

--
Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota * USA

[Phil Gilmer]

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
>
So what if the fork is backwards! It DOES say for CASUAL off-road!

[Phil W Lee]

"Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> considered Wed, 30 Jul
2008 11:24:31 -0700 the perfect time to write:

>http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233
>
>--Mike Jacoubowsky
>Chain Reaction Bicycles
>www.ChainReaction.com
>Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
I've never met a 12 year old that could ride a 26" (66cm) frame
comfortably (although I suppose there may be one somewhere),
especially with the forks installed bassackwards :)
Anyone that tall would be very likely to have feet of a proportionate
size, and toe overlap is likely to be (to say the least) severe.
--

There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't!

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article <_j2kk.6851$cn7.2706@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com>,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:

> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233

Mike, you don't recognize a motorpacing bicycle when you see one? It's
not like Carl Fogel hasn't posted several dozen images of the things.

Some people's bike shops,

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

[Tom Sherman]

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233
>
Does not Ron Hardin set up his Huffy's that way? ;)

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

[max]

In article <_j2kk.6851$cn7.2706@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com>,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:

> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

rear wheel spoke tension too low from 9:00 to 11:30 position.
wheel reflectors mounted upside down.
packing-disk on rear axle.

p.o.s.!

..max

--
This signature can be appended to your outgoing mesages. Many people include in
their signatures contact information, and perhaps a joke or quotation.

[Larry]

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:24:31 -0700, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
<MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:

>http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233
>
>--Mike Jacoubowsky
>Chain Reaction Bicycles
>www.ChainReaction.com
>Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>

Besides the issues already pointed out, isn't the saddle mounted at an
angle? It looks like it must be positioned about 45 degrees from being
in line with the bike.
--

When trying to contact me, be polite. Rudeness will not get you anywhere.

Larry

[Ralph Barone]

In article <_j2kk.6851$cn7.2706@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com>,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:

> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Besides the obvious (covered in all the other responses to this thread),
have you noticed the rear brake cable routing. It seems that bikes with
a "step-through" style of frame have the most convoluted rear brake
cable routing imaginable. Here are more examples (although not good
examples because the cable is routed on the non-visible side of the
frame).

http://fujibikes.com/2008/bikes.asp?id=490
http://trekstoremadison.com/itemdetails.cfm?id=2824
http://www.llbean.com/cd-1/54955.shtml

All those bends make a huge difference in the brake feel.

Here's one where they could have fixed everything by simply mounting the
rear brakes on the middle set of seat stays in the rear subframe.
http://www.rei.com/product/744789

And here's one where they actually did get it right
http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2008/05/proper-mixte.html

[bigjimpack@gmail.com]

That new style fork makes bike more compact for storage



n Jul 30, 2:24*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

[Tom Sherman]

BassManNate wrote:
> On Jul 30, 1:24 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
> wrote:
>> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233
>>
>> --Mike Jacoubowsky
>> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
>> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
> Holy crap...I can't believe they took a picture of it like
> that...You'd think someone would notice that the fork is backwards.

I noticed the brake being on the back side of the fork before I noticed
the reversed rake. The handling must be rather odd with that much trail.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

[It's Chris]

Nothing is wrong with the picture, it is of a bicycle that has assembled
by Toys R us, after all. Such is to be expected.

So the picture is accurate.

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Compliments of:
"Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

If you want to E-mail me use:
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[Tom Sherman]

Phil W Lee wrote:
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> considered Wed, 30 Jul
> 2008 11:24:31 -0700 the perfect time to write:
>
>> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233
>>
> I've never met a 12 year old that could ride a 26" (66cm) frame
> comfortably (although I suppose there may be one somewhere),
> especially with the forks installed bassackwards :)
> Anyone that tall would be very likely to have feet of a proportionate
> size, and toe overlap is likely to be (to say the least) severe.

You mean they did not teach you to assemble bicycles this way when you
worked in a shop? ;)

> --
>
> There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't!

Your signature separator is missing the blank space after the "--".

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

[Peter Cole]

Phil W Lee wrote:
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> considered Wed, 30 Jul
> 2008 11:24:31 -0700 the perfect time to write:
>
>> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233
>>
>> --Mike Jacoubowsky
>> Chain Reaction Bicycles
>> www.ChainReaction.com
>> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>>
> I've never met a 12 year old that could ride a 26" (66cm) frame
> comfortably (although I suppose there may be one somewhere),

Come to my house. I put both my kids on 26" bikes by age 9-10.

> especially with the forks installed bassackwards :)

Ultra stable!

> Anyone that tall would be very likely to have feet of a proportionate
> size, and toe overlap is likely to be (to say the least) severe.

I've done it (on purpose). You can ride a bike with toe overlap, lots of
people have spent way more than $75 for bikes that have it.

[Tracy]

You dumb men! You never understand women! This is a bike made for women,
assembled by women! You go and laugh at your own things!

[Phil W Lee]

Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> considered Wed, 30 Jul
2008 21:45:54 -0500 the perfect time to write:

>Phil W Lee wrote:
>> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> considered Wed, 30 Jul
>> 2008 11:24:31 -0700 the perfect time to write:
>>
>>> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233
>>>
>> I've never met a 12 year old that could ride a 26" (66cm) frame
>> comfortably (although I suppose there may be one somewhere),
>> especially with the forks installed bassackwards :)
>> Anyone that tall would be very likely to have feet of a proportionate
>> size, and toe overlap is likely to be (to say the least) severe.
>
>You mean they did not teach you to assemble bicycles this way when you
>worked in a shop? ;)
>
>> --
>>
>> There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't!
>
>Your signature separator is missing the blank space after the "--".


Oops, thanks, this should now be fixed.
I also checked the alternates, and they were all ok - can't think how
I missed that one.
--
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

:-)

[marian.rosenberg@gmail.com]

On Jul 31, 2:42*pm, max <betat...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In article <_j2kk.6851$cn7.2...@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> *"Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233

> rear wheel spoke tension too low from 9:00 to 11:30 position.

You know you are a bike geek when you can notice spoke tension from a
photo...

[Roger Zoul]

"Larry" <lschuldt@nibs.rude.biz> wrote

> Besides the issues already pointed out, isn't the saddle mounted at an
> angle? It looks like it must be positioned about 45 degrees from being
> in line with the bike.

Looks that way to me too.

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

>> I've never met a 12 year old that could ride a 26" (66cm) frame
>> comfortably (although I suppose there may be one somewhere),
>
> Come to my house. I put both my kids on 26" bikes by age 9-10.

26" *frame*, not wheel size. If your 9-10 year old kids are riding 26"
frames, are there pro basketball teams with options on them?

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


"Peter Cole" <peter_cole@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:m1kkk.502$wS4.488@trnddc03...
> Phil W Lee wrote:
>> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> considered Wed, 30 Jul
>> 2008 11:24:31 -0700 the perfect time to write:
>>
>>> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2401233
>>>
>>> --Mike Jacoubowsky
>>> Chain Reaction Bicycles
>>> www.ChainReaction.com
>>> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>> I've never met a 12 year old that could ride a 26" (66cm) frame
>> comfortably (although I suppose there may be one somewhere),
>
> Come to my house. I put both my kids on 26" bikes by age 9-10.
>
>> especially with the forks installed bassackwards :)
>
> Ultra stable!
>
>> Anyone that tall would be very likely to have feet of a proportionate
>> size, and toe overlap is likely to be (to say the least) severe.
>
> I've done it (on purpose). You can ride a bike with toe overlap, lots of
> people have spent way more than $75 for bikes that have it.
>

[Roger Zoul]

"Tracy" <tracy@shaw.ca> wrote

> You dumb men! You never understand women! This is a bike made for women,
> assembled by women! You go and laugh at your own things!

Oh....so you think it actually looks better like that, huh?

:)

[Peter Cole]

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>> I've never met a 12 year old that could ride a 26" (66cm) frame
>>> comfortably (although I suppose there may be one somewhere),
>> Come to my house. I put both my kids on 26" bikes by age 9-10.
>
> 26" *frame*, not wheel size. If your 9-10 year old kids are riding 26"
> frames, are there pro basketball teams with options on them?

Well, you're being awfully literal -- a "26 inch frame" could have been
a "frame that accepts 26 inch wheels", but that's a bit wordy.

[Mike Jacoubowsky]

"Peter Cole" <peter_cole@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0ankk.520$Ht4.361@trnddc01...
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>>> I've never met a 12 year old that could ride a 26" (66cm) frame
>>>> comfortably (although I suppose there may be one somewhere),
>>> Come to my house. I put both my kids on 26" bikes by age 9-10.
>>
>> 26" *frame*, not wheel size. If your 9-10 year old kids are riding 26"
>> frames, are there pro basketball teams with options on them?
>
> Well, you're being awfully literal -- a "26 inch frame" could have been a
> "frame that accepts 26 inch wheels", but that's a bit wordy.

"Frame" and "wheel" size are two entirely different things, and the two are
always specified separately (except in those instances where a frame comes
in only one size, in which case the manufacturer would like to pretend that
it's adjustable enough to fit anybody, so they leave "frame" size out
entirely).

So to properly describe a bike to someone, it may have a 19" frame with 700c
wheels. It would never be described, in this case, as a 700c frame.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA



"Peter Cole" <peter_cole@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0ankk.520$Ht4.361@trnddc01...
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>>> I've never met a 12 year old that could ride a 26" (66cm) frame
>>>> comfortably (although I suppose there may be one somewhere),
>>> Come to my house. I put both my kids on 26" bikes by age 9-10.
>>
>> 26" *frame*, not wheel size. If your 9-10 year old kids are riding 26"
>> frames, are there pro basketball teams with options on them?
>
> Well, you're being awfully literal -- a "26 inch frame" could have been a
> "frame that accepts 26 inch wheels", but that's a bit wordy.